CNC Machining a Titanium Aerospace Part on PUMA 2600 SY II | DN Solutions
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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Love the Metric measurements during this video.
I was not expecting it, started doing a conversion from Imperial to Metric around the same time as i got my answer the Metric shows up, LOL.
It's a bit like getting the answers to a test straight after you answer the questions.
Very smooth and fast video! Awesome!!!
4:08 that tool change without Z retract 😅😬
But nice video you really show how intricate and delicate the set up process can be!
Im sure someone will correct me but you can set a safe home position with a G130 Z(safe zone) X(safe zone) then send them to that position with a G30 U0 W0.
I thought the same thing! Surely you'd retract that turret to a better tool change position! Imagine swinging a U-drill into the side of the chuck?! lol!
Are there any Oscar for presentation to the camera? If there is then your team will be in the front line to get repeated ones for their and your shelf to table! Utterly enthralled by the process, the technology and the learning process.. You cant knock this in any way I can see.
I could stand in front of the Doosam 2600 for hours watching it preform it's own Symphony and making beautiful chips & parts...Headed to watch part II, Thx Travis & also the Academy and Titan for all the company brought to our great state of Texas,,Bear @ Bears Rod Shop, Boyd TX
That inside the lathe camera angle while explaining the tooling setup is 🔥 some cinematic shit right there haha
I'm really love all Titan academy members ♥️ thanks for all the video guys 👍👍 you're the best ♥️
very good video..thanks for your time
Travis knocking it out the park.
Nice to see the dual spindle work as that will be my next purchase.
Be nice to have finished parts coming out the parts catcher !
You should consider multi tool turrets as well so you can maximize production.
Thank-you very much for the video ... God job America !.
Very very very very very very beautiful all machines good job good working nice staff 👍👍🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
In the UK we call it a U-Drill no idea why
Sales name of Sandvik
@@dieterlahme8604 that makes sense they are a heavy hitter here
Sandviks name for inserted drills. There are many other manufacturers out there all have their own names.
@@swikocki Insert or U drill ?
We all know what it means if someone mentions it.
Just an observation during the video. 👍
@@weldmachine the original poster in this comment thread clearly doesn't, hence their post!
I run a HAAS DS30SSY, I think this DOOSAN can interpolate on the B axis (subspindle). HAAS you can only position and lock . Rather than using that as a rotary axis.
You just pointed out the reason for buying a Doosan instead of a HAAS.
Nothing against HAAS but Doosan are just that bit better.
It’s nice to be able to interpolate on both spindles, makes not having much travel in the y axis less of a problem
Thanks for this video!👍👍👍🇩🇪
I've seen that part on a raptor engine, expensive billet, no pressure huh?
Ha, ok... You know what your talking about... so you see we changed it up and made it out of Titanium. Real Part just got more complicated.
this some type of flange with a compression fitting in it?
Why use tiny boring bar for a finishing pass in your bore ? You could hear it chatter straight away
I wish I had a machine shop like these guys in my area. My shop still uses X5 mastercam 🤪
That's better than where I work. We program everything by hand. 😅
Amazing video and awesome skills.
Best regards.
First time I've seen somebody besides me using indexable drill to drill and bore however I don't use two offsets I write it all in the program for the drill
Thats what I do lol use a 30mm drill and want a 35mm... X5.
Yeah it wastes a lot of time to send the drill home just to come back and bore with it.
I use them to drill, bore & internal face. They’re remarkably versatile......
And what do you mean for clearance turning the boring bar around?
Could have used boring bar also as turning od,
Please show us how did you program and cut soft jaws on sub spindle
Not one single boo boo nice job 👏
Awesome video!
Great video , drills work for boring but can be tricky to break the chips up . does anybody have a direct post specific to this machine for Fusion 360 , i know you guys like to use mastercam now . Just bought one of these and i love fusion 360 , just dont like the thoughts of having to constantly edit the program it txt file to make it run right on the machine .
Making a very similar part today myself 🙃
Super
How does a machine with subspindle not have a touch setter dedicated to the sub spindle.
I know its weird right!! All the sub spindle m/c i have used and non of them have one
Seems the machine manufacturers still want you sort this problem out on your own ??
The DMG NLX 2000/2500's have a quick detachable sub-side probe arm that attaches where the Doosan's parts catcher is located. They're quite handy and super accurate!!
This is problem for all similar Doosans, it seems that they have this old Puma 230 design and they just added the subspindle without adding or changing anything than software 😁 we have a Doosan Lynx220 (2 of them) and some more 2 turret Doosans, problem is the same on every machine.
Mazak sqt 250ms has this q-arm long enough for sub spindle tools.
I’ve seen you touching on the shank of the tool. Could you help, when I’m touching off on a heidenhain tool setter, with a live tool in auto it spins the the tools up ccw. Will it hurt any of them, the probe or the tools?
I am unable to find the video for the back spindle work that uses the live tools..... has it been released yet?
Ah yes Travis, the hand wave guy
I would Like to work here too.... I have completed my graduation in B.Tech in Mechanical Engineering.....
What are the recruitment proccess ?
i love titan .iwish i work like that some day
..ilove being cnc machinest in almost 3 years....
i have a question because i am considering using cnc to create something ivbe been working on. can you make multiple peices from one block or split the block up into smaller parts?
On the doosan 2100sy (same only a little smaller than yours) i wrote a small macro so you never hit the jaws.. G10 L2 P1 Z[180.+#530] (set G54)
This is metric and only for the chuck I have installed the 180 is 20mm off the jaw face (the clearance i need for my partoff tool) and at the start of my program I have eg #530=65.(part length). It just idiot proof (ish)
We did the same but with separate G602 code. Where you put the parameters in ( like height of the jaws, part lenght and so one) and there is no danger that the subspindle kisses the main 😁
Dear Titans! Great job! A lot of respect for educating us . Could You make tutorial about simulation of machine for preventing of collisions like in 3:22 ? Best regards.
Hai iam having doosan puma 2000sy i want to run both spindles like main spindle and sub spindle at a time but in individual rotation direction can it possible....
Its fanuc 18i control
Are you always going to stand there, stop the machine, and get rid of the birdsnest or correct something to not create the birdsnest?
Being the first part, this is how most people start. Fiddle and fiddle until you get it to run how you want it to. It’s not so important if you are only making one, but if it’s a production run I’m sure he would work the bugs out of it.
Awesome job Travis. When you said add diameter, did you mean add radius ?
He’s right to say diameter, when you touch off to a tool on the probe you subtract the diameter of the tool. It’s an eighth inch from the center of the tool, but to the machine thats 1/4” on the diameter
Thank you
Want part-2 soon..
Jou Baal bei Titans of cnc hat begonnen xD
You guys act like everything you do is exceptional in the matching world, I hate to break the news but your vids are old school, I’ve been machining my whole life and have seen this stuff at least 15 years ago! Try cutting inconel 901 day after day, I see a lot of aluminum cutting in your shop, really nothing special to me and the veterans of maching
Since you are using the insert drill as a boring how did you orient the drill so the insert you are using for boring is on centerline in X?
These inserted drills typically have machined flats on them to orient the inserts perfectly inline with the x axis for boring. Now since there are usually 2 flats opposite of eachother, you do have to make sure you are orienting the correct way to ensure that the insert on the ouside edge of the drill is the one on the x+ side.
@@bradstubbs5708 Nice
@@bradstubbs5708 I’ve typically seen them with the flats oriented 90 degrees from each other so you can choose to offset in either x or y axis. Never seen one with flats 180 degrees from each other
Why do you use a 6 jaw chuck on the sub spindle, is there a reason for this?
Its so if you have a thin walled job it helps stop it squashing
Why would you use the drill as a boring bar?
This way 1 insert will wear out a lot faster then the other insert
Is this really just to save a 4 second tool change for a normal boring bar?
It’s a good stout bar that you don’t have to buy if you already have the drill. Also, a lot of times when working on both sides of a part you have to get creative as far as tools because you are limited in turret positions for tools. You don’t always have room in the turret to use the tools you want, sometimes you have to make do with what has to be in there. It’s probably not why they did it but I know I have to do that sometimes. I have a mazak 200msy with only 12 turret positions
Er. Those drills are DESIGNED to be used for boring as well.......
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See he didn’t tell you how to make the control allow you to change which offset you want to touch off
That boring opp had a lot of shred on the tool. This is not a one-opp process
Two dislikes 🤔... Jealousy maybe?
HAAS Lathe Owners that don't have a full functioning Sub Spindle i am guessing ??
Some take pride in being negative in life... I choose to serve and to be positive😁
Also got thick skin🤙
@@weldmachine You really love to hate on Haas and Haas owners huh?
@@TITANSofCNC keep doing what you guys are doing, it’s great exposure into a skilled trade that is DYING for an influx of new, talented workers. I love it! Get some mazaks though, the mazatrol programming system is awesome and needs more exposure.
@@shirothehero0609
LOL.
NO not at all man.
If you say it that way it does sound personal.
It's not a personal attack against HAAS machine owners or possible owners.
Just a general thought about the lack of a fairly simple function that any CNC Lathe should have if it has a Sub Spindle.
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You must admit if you buy a CNC Lathe with a Sub Spindle you would want to be able to Index.
I know i would. 👍
So it’s not 1 op 😂 still cool tho, never seen the drill used as boring bar
It depends on your definition of “op”. It would be a 2 op job in a single spindle lathe since an operator would have to physically remove it & reset it in the same spindle for the second side. Since it’s a twin spindle lathe that is taken care of by the machine itself so a completed part comes out with only the initial placement by the operator- hence “1 op”.
I remember that intro music😂
first
Put it in your resume.
Legend.
Why doesn't he drill as the first step?
@Erik Slagter idk ive never done it like that and it always works
Straighten your stock first then drill then finish. Its more important with bar fed hight spindle speeds to limit vibration ect...
If you have a pointed drill go for it. But with a flat faced one its better to have an even surface. So unless you are bar feeding with cutoff, i wouldnt do it. Unless the stock is flat ofc, but if u get the material cut off with a shitty saw it can be pretty uneven.
i always prefer to drill a center hole if possible to save the insert a lot of wear, which it gets by facing off.
@@megu9030 that’s terrible logic
@@Phailox I always face after drill too, trying to machine to center of bar is where all your wear is because there’s no sfm at the center of your part
If you have to use 2 chucks then it is not a single setup...
It’s one program, and an untended part transfer. Put a piece of stock in, finished part comes out. How can you say that’s not a single setup?
From raw material to one completely finished work-piece in one machine with 2 chucks is single set-up.
If you machine one side and then must change set-up again for finish work-piece, you have a double set-up.
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Closed door = noobs
while you talked so much, I would have done 10 of these 😂