Should You buy A German caravan?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2024
- Should you buy a german caravan, are German caravans better than UK caravans? The answer is probably yes, but i bet you won't buy one, and in this video I go into why that is. I also go a bit off track into why we could be seeing the problems we are with the newer caravans.
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If the British manufacturers could make a waterproof box, that would be a good start wouldn't it!....
Its refreshing to find someone who is prepared to say things as they are.
I have been a Caravaner for 40 years and I have yet to understand why, in the UK, we insist on having a full size cooker installed, who on earth wants to cook a full meal while caravanning, thats what restaurants are for, and before anyone says it , we used to take the children, they were taught to cook outside on a small camping gas burner OR THEY WOULD STARVE TO DEATH!
The problem with the present UK caravan market is as you said, they are still behaving as if its 1960 , brochure to sell a caravan! No customer contact, "WE DO NOT SPEAK TO CUSTOMERS" No warranty of any use at all. The insistance that service your caravan at great expense, when a caravan has no real need for "servicing" apart from a brake check once a year. Its the manufacturers way of getting out of warranty work. Not paying dealers enough to cover any costs when problems occurs , is a huge problem. Why do dealers put up with it?
At present I have a Buccaneer Bermuda, two people who are close friends work at the factory in County Durham, they are actually ashamed at the way work is done, contractors brought in who take no pride in there work, most people in that area are lazy anyway as it is a poor area.The build quality on my van is a disgrace , luckily I have the skills to keep on top of it, but todays public do not seem to have a clue, they couldnt change the oil on there own car these days.
The touring caravan industry will dissapear in favour of lodges , pods etc in the next five years, people cannot afford the rubbish that is available today!
"who on earth wants to cook a full meal while caravanning?" We do!
@@bizarremagick I suppose there is always one out there!
Very sad@@bizarremagick
I can't see pods, lodges etc taking over in 5 years time, from touring caravans, @tomegton.
I use my caravan regularly NOT to go to the same place but to go various different places, different meets, from week to week. One week Ripon, the next week Hutton le Hole, the week after that Grinton, the next week Masham, maybe a week off then a lengthy meet at Beadnell (23 nights - not required to stay all nights, can go elsewhere north or south from there, Edinburgh for example and then move further north to Scone Palace or near Pitlochry, or return to Beadnell on the way home), then after a week home it might be Leyburn for 9 nights, then a few days at Cropton next to the Great North Yorkshire Brewery etc etc. Often seeing friends at most of those meets but no problem if it is on our own. The meets may be a weekend or a long-weekend (4 nights?), apart from the onger THS meets.
Sleep in YOUR bed, knowing exactly who has previously used YOUR shower and toilet. Better than an hotel room and better than having to go to the same place every week.
ALSO we have a spare annexe (the caravan) on the drive - hooked up to the electrics, 10 feet from the water tap, available to use as extra accommodation if needed (visitors). Fixed double bed, lounge that can be converted to a double or twin beds in addition, kitted out kitchen & fridge and a full bathroom only 25 months old so essentially brand new! Or when my wife had to go into hospital for a planned operation and I had a REALLY bad cold which I feared might be COVID and if she caught it would postpone her (vital) operation, I stayed out in the van prior to her hospital date in order to avoid the risk of infection.
Glamping pods etc couldn't do that!
@@raymondporter2094 I agree in all that you say, glamping pods are not for me either, but with the present quality of new caravans people are going to look for a new option and buying a caravan wont be the first choice.
Spot on analysis. We have an Elddis Xplore 304 2016 vintage purchased last year. It has an Ok interior but poor external build quality. We like to camp in Europe and would love a Knaus Sport fixed bed if we could afford it eg the 450 FU. The other factor which is a downside to caravan ownership in England is the high cost of caravan sites. We have just done a full Brexit allowance (90 days) tour around Europe and the sites were around one third the price of the UK.
Have just discovered your channel and it is so helpful. I grew up in Germany in the 60/70s and we travelled (which is easier there!) all over in it. Now roll forward 50 years and am looking to buy a caravan for my retirement years. Of course so much has changed (as you say, not always for the better) and am trying to get my head around it all. As a woman on her own with a dog I already have a fixed idea (small, bed so I don't have to make it up every night and somewhere to eat) and the TAB 400 is top of the list but is very expensive. Will keep watching your videos and make the most of your experience. Thank you!
Evening,
How refreshing to find a dealer that speaks the truth and isn't afraid of the backlash 👍.
We have a swift our second one and touch wood no problems 🤞
European vans do generally seemed to be built better but are much heavier and as you stated more expensive.
Please keep these real vlogs coming they are far more useful than most 👍.
Thanks.
P and J 👍
PS funny our first van was a 2004 compass corona 475 and we traded that in the dealer gave us more quoted on inspection due to how good it still was 😊.
Thanks, will do, but you might regret encouraging me..
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Very interesting, thanks. You are so right about the differences camping in the UK and Europe. We have extensively toured Europe (and Morocco) and I thoroughly agree with it being much more social. The caravans and campervans are much closer together as the pitches are generally much smaller, (typically 70 sq meters), and the Europeans cook and eat outside. We have been on European sites (Spain and Portugal) during public holidays and the sites were crammed full with families all getting together, cooking, eating and drinking to well past midnight. The children were all playing together outside. The atmosphere was wonderful, happy and family fun. Drinking but no drunkenness. We enjoyed the carnival atmosphere. Over here in the UK we tend to look for adult only sites during busy periods and weekends, having suffered from drunken, loud and offensive adults, badly behaved children and a threatening atmosphere. I also loved your comments about pitches in the UK being delineated with windbreaks and guarded jealously. Sometimes I suspect some have proximity alarms in the event someone slightly strays into their pitch!
I’m glad to hear this, I thought I might have got some grief for those comments..
We have always been bemused by the heavy British vans, with the concept of "taking your lounge and kitchen with you" but I accept that we are in the minority. Our style of holiday is active, not setting up and staying in to watch television.
We tow an Eriba Nova L 465 with a BMW 320i, and it's a great outfit. The Eriba is around 1200 kg laden, 2.25 m wide and 6.07 m long, so definitely a compact van, but the French bed layout makes it seem roomy inside. Everything is functional; no unnecessary frills.
The excellent Truma 3004 heater which works on mains or gas, and works fine by convection is a van this size, so no need for noisy blown air. No oven, just a three burner hob: perfect for us. The Hymer PUAL insulation really does attenuate heat and cold very well. Great quality matress and seat cushions.
Previously we owned an Eriba 442 Light (great but too much bed for the size of van), a 2018 Eriba Troll, and a Knaus Sport (stylish but not as well built).
Zero damp problems with any of out German vans, which is worth a lot to us...
Yes, you are definitely describing the European way of caravanning..
Well said that man! Fairly new to caravanning ourselves and all the things you talk about are so relevant and true. I'd have an Adria or a german caravan in a heartbeat if the spec could be adjusted accordingly, but as you say if they sell enough already in Europe it's not worth them changing for just a few uk customers, some of whom would probably have to change towing vehicles too.
This channel is excellent and I'm sure you will get punters through your dealership as a result, good luck to you and please keep the content coming.
Steve n Jeanette.
I wish Toyota would build caravans ……
Another very well detailed video…. Thank you
I do most of my caravaning in Europe and it's very rare to see them sitting inside of the caravan or motorhome, even if the weather is bad but most of the time the weather is great which lends itself to sitting outside more, they only use them for sleeping in
I myself bought a German knaus starclass 695 in 2020 Purley for the build quality and the UK specification. It hasn't been disappointed, but I am mystified why that series has now been discontinued, especially considering your observations that I totally agree with. Incidentally, you pronounce knaus whilst sounding the K, I'm fairly sure.
We too have a Starclass and it's brilliant. Last three caravans have been German and all 100% trouble-free. Knaus stopped the starclass primary because of Covid and Brexit. The UK is a very small market compared to Europe and we like a different kind of caravan. Knaus we're worried that they would get stuck with a stock of caravans with the door on the wrong side. Your 2020 caravan may well have been manufactured two years earlier as UK dealers need to buy quite a few caravans in one shipment and store them before registering.
Really interesting video, thank you.
Wait for the next one, going to be asking some big questions..
Great commentary! Love your take on "white boxes", very insightful. Keep the vids coming, really appreciate your take on things.
Some good observations and layout and kit is indeed important. But would be also useful to review the construction differences between UK vans (SMART, SOLID etc) and European vans (e.g PUAL). For me, it would be construction quality and robustness that would make me consider a specific manufacturer. Probably more than layout. Thanks for your efforts as our caravan and motorhome industry needs a complete shake up
Thanks, talking of shake up, just putting together my next video which asks a question of the buying public.. should be interesting.
True about the expensive modern technology. We have a 1994 Fleetwood Crystal and the fridge works like a dream. We have considered buying a new van but they are very expensive and the build quality looks poor.
Well said that man, modern canbus systems and digital ECUs have no place in a caravan why overcomplicate things, we are currently in italy on holiday in a 18 year old Sterling Eccles Emerald, when people abroad ask we show them whats in a uk caravan and they honestly can't believe what you get, they don't have showers, ovens, electric hotplate and 3 gas, some still dont have hot water and ours is 18 years old. If something breaks i can fix it its only a couple of relays and physical switches and simple water system. So many ask about the Aqua roll and think thats a brilliant idea. Johnny foreigner admires the British caravan and Swift do a Sprite range for Europe which is high end because its well equipped and a lot of Germans and Dutch would like one.
Thanks for your comments, Just putting my next together where I’ll be asking some tough questions on this very fact.
very insightful and great observatio s. Truly enjoyed the video.
Thanks, it means a lot. check out my previous videos for more waffling..
A really insightful and informative video.
Glad you think so!
There must be a reason why (a group of people 😉) those who live in caravans full time, often without electric hook up or awnings, choose; Hobby, Tabbert, knaus, LMC etc over British caravans. It’s true that our continental cousins use their caravans differently to us and it’s mainly due to the weather. I have stayed next to Dutch people who don’t use the water and toilet in their caravan and use them as a tin tent, they use the wash block and wash up areas and cook outside. The French have a small caravan for mum and dad and the children sleep in pup tents whereas we all sleep in our caravan and use the shower and toilet but we do tend to cook outside, eat in the awning and our front dinette is now a fixed bed with a regular double mattress. If we do watch TV in the caravan it’s either in the rear dinette or sat on the bed. When staying in France though the tv doesn’t really get used as there’s so many better things to see and do. I personally like the ikea type interior design of Adria and the layouts of caravaliar, burstner and knaus with fixed double and fixed bunks but i don’t like the wet room type bathrooms or the fold down sinks. It seems Adria are making better bathrooms now but the caravans with them are still too expensive for me. I have a 14 year old coachman that although is a constant battle to keep the damp out and is incredibly heavy for its size isn’t worth changing.
I am from Serbia and i have Hobby prestige ,i must say i like more UK layouts but i also afraid off quality .
Also down side off Hobby is you really cant find parts for ,my caravan survived hail but both skylight were broken ,also 3th brake lights ,some plastics outside and i still cant find anywhere online replace parts ,for now duct tape works
You have summed up the current UK caravan manufacturers issues with 3 extremely insightful videos, thank you for sharing your thoughts. As a caravan owner over 30 or so years, until 2014 I had never had either a new or damp caravan, and other than a bit of preventative sikaflex, and a few pumps not had any issues on vans between 5 and 15 years old. First new van arrived in 2014, and had 8 troublesome years and vowed never to buy another new caravan. I have relented and purchased another new van in the last month or so, and went looking at the European brands first, but decided that due to lack of backup, and high price for spec, to go with a Bailey, if this is problematic I will definitely give up on caravans, but it’s a real shame, as we have had some great times over the years. Time will tell. I have examined this van forensically, and layed under it after the recent storms to try and pick up any issues quickly, before the repairs are too extensive, also have humidity meters in each end of the van, just to keep an eye on things….but perhaps the paranoia is damaging the ownership experience. If only it was not warranted. Going to whip the fridge PCB’s out next and waterproof them…..
Its such a shot keep hearing this, a few people have said they will give up caravanning due to poor products, it should be a pleasure to own these things, you shouldn’t have to become a mini expert just to catch problems early.
When we were looking for our first van last year, we were very keen on a couple of German manufacturers, because of perceived (v little experience other than reading and watching v/blogs) better quality and design, in particular Knauss, but in the end the weight and cost prevented it, in particular weight. As it is we did buy an Elddis. I would also agree with your questioning of what 'we' want. Surely in the first instance, dry? No need for PCB in anything or CANBus, I would love to know where they came up with that, but I must be odd because I'm happier with the more open and sharing element that you spoke of towards the end.
You are spot on!
Germans build their warm caravans for skiing in the mountains in the winter and for the beach in the south of France in summer and come with sprung quality seating. Why don't the UK manufacturers build as good as the Germans quality, but to a UK modern spec that don't leak. It will be survival of the fittest for the most advanced designed quality technologies materials multipurpose savvy van with less electronic naff crap on board, as younger buyers take over from the traditional caravan purchasers and small motor homes/ van life have become hip. Out door cooking BBQ ovens in pull out external pods would be ideal with an easy pull out awning like in Oz and laptop's with wifi will take over from TV's, as the younger customers don't watch TV but stream it on line now. You can get small portable fridge freezers at a low cost now. 100% electric vehicles will come to nothing and Hydrogen hybrid will succeed so won't be a problem for tow weights. Bad news and bad leaking defective old fashioned crap news travels fast online, UK better catch up fast or die. The industry needs to employ young bright designer engineers that enjoys the hobby and take it forwards, not old fart bean counters that do not camp, churning out the same old junk.
I did reply to someone else's comment but despite my reply, the Gentleman made good points.
Your video was excellent so I will subscribe and catch up on your past videos.
I've been caravanning 34 (ish) years. An ancient 2nd hand one "to see if I liked it" which I sold on after some improvements/updating, then a new Abbey which was great for 13 years or so, then a new Elddis Odessey which was good until the very end of its 16 years with us, then a new dealer special Swift 560 which has been fine so far (apart from a duff installation of the electric flex touching the metal of the oven causing the fuse to blow-out when it melted, which was rectified under warranty with no argument) - so maybe I have been lucky.
I agree that a "waterproof" box seems a fairly low bar to cross!
Thanks, appreciate it..
I would happily buy a German caravan, quite frankly who needs an oven, square 3 burner hob in a sprite is pointless you can't use them all, it's just too small. Seen Cool stuff like the knaus sport and fun, they also build a "horse box" caravan for a motorbike, with a drop down bed, ingenious, why aren't UK manufacturers doing that?
When we looked at the little sprite we bought, I looked at German stuff, I put a comment on the Basecamp FB group that I'd seen some German kit that made a base camp look bit dull, I got banned from the group.
There is this strange thing that happens which I think I mentioned in the video, people love the thought of different layouts and the European build, and always comment on how great it is, but then won’t buy it. It was called a Deseo I think, with the tailgate, I tried to sell them a few years ago, loads of people loving it, but it was a devil to actually sell.
Bought a Weinsberg Cara One 390 QD, 4 years ago, great value for your money with lots of equipment as standard, built in water tank with filtration system, suspension dampers, Gel Battery, Ceramic toilet pan, Extended chassis nose so you can mount a bike rack, Alloy wheels, the caravan has been faultless up to this year and the submersible water pump failed, easy fix. 2 drawbacks, had an oven fitted as an extra, wash room to small, great van for a couple.
Just make sure you take it to a Knaus certified service dealer or your warranty is void....as we recently found out with ours.
@@sarahgittins5202 Thanks for the tip but we have always take it to a Knaus Dealer for the Service, can I ask what problem did you have with your van and should I be aware of something nasty lurking around the corner. Regards Bob
I had a lmc caravan for 10 years and it was the best I had. The door on the wrong side was something you got used to
I agree on the electronics complicating the caravan, no need at all.
The cost for a caravan is unrealistic for the Rubbish they produce. I bought my van 7 years ago and now out of warranty. I have experienced every issue you can throw at it apart from the corner jacks and the tow bar the base trailure system.
I first started with a Swift Corniche, and to this day it was by far the best van I owned, it never once let me down, unlike my current van every year brings a new problem.
This season, Taps failed leaked. ( Was realy frosty in the winter) if it was it certainly didn't happen in the midlands. Toilet wouldn't flush. Both were repaired that was ok as it is an 8 year old van now.
Last year Leak in roof detected and repaired at my own cost. This year rear floor corners after a week in Wales were found to be wet underneath, ( Just waiting for our service guy to return from his holiday) Only Heaven knows what he will find next.
After all the issues and maintenance costs storage over winter coupled with the now extortionate cost on camp sites. ( Yes I know everything increases) but how do they justify a 100% increase over the last five years.
I will suffer these costs reluctantly until the van is worthless, probably within the next two years then give it up and never buy another van. Leaking Vans are not acceptable, The manufacturers should be ashamed of the rubbish they are churning out. Because it looks good doesn't mean quality,that alone just doesn't cut it. This is definitely the last Caravan I will ever buy as they are rubbish. I have been caravanning for 30 years and I believe I am well qualified to tell you all and the manufactures they are producing and selling nothing short of complete and expensive rubbish.
I bought a new 2020 Knaus Starclass 565 made to UK spec with the door on the left, only problem has been an oven thermocouple, not really a Knaus fault but fixed under warranty. It has been fairly well used since and has been excellent. Not sure if Knaus still make the Starclass. It has been my only caravan so can't really compare with British caravans but it does feel well put together.
I work for a company that builds buses. We've had some ex swift coach builders in the past. I once asked one of them " would you buy a swift with your own money" he replied " I wouldn't buy a swift with someone else's money " enough said !!
The only reason we bought a sprite, was the washroom, We wanted a room to get changed, having dogs somewhere to hang wet coats etc cause it's going to rain, We got to think of the van without an awning, as it's an all year rounder.
As for the layout, could throw the front drawers in the bin, would rather have wrap round seats. Ovens are pointless, the sprite hob, hum!!! Why would anyone want to polish a big white box, tow it for 5 minutes and it's m😢anky again.
As for PCBs, the biggest waste of money going, on a fridge a thermostat and a selector switch is all you need. ( Being a fridge engineer the biggest issue is controllers). I did email Adria a while back, about washrooms, reply "they're built to use", going to a caravan park, sit and watch, all the caravans have on board facilities, but people still match to the showers, dressing gowns and Crocs.
German caravans are full of good ideas. English are frankly boring.
Swift produced the freedom a few years ago with no shower or oven, although customers say they don’t need or use them, they still won’t buy a caravan without these thing, ‘just in case’ we couldn’t sell them. I also asked Thetford why the insisted on using PCBs when we never needed them before and they said the customers wanted auto ignition, and didn’t want a pitzo ignition system. They said they tried to fit the in caravans but people complained.
Hi I had two Hobby premium caravans and they where built quite well, however the same issues showed with front and rear panels cracking on more than one occasion although the dealer was excellent Hobby uk where shocking and I had the same delays in getting parts as you do uk caravans.
That’s interesting, they are not infallible then..
Hi, thank you for your vidoes its good to hear what we're all thinking . Hopefully, you have some influence with them.
can i ask what your thoughts are on the best uk manufacturers for new caravans? As thinking of changing as fed up with the warranty work on swift caravan
I’ll be doing a video on that soon..
Changed from dry 2000 2berth bailey to dry 2009 Adria 4berth. Both has similar construction unlike 2 damp ridden 2010 bailey which had different construction.
Adria seats aren't as comfortable as old bailey. Equipment levels are mixed bag, gas heating, electric HW. Bailey was dual fuel for both. No oven and work bench limited compared UK equivalents. Both use reliable low tech heater, HW and fridge. Two important upgrades by going from 2000 to 2009 caravan is electric toilet flush and gas burner working indicator on fridge.
No front window on Adria means one less place for water to leak or to be broken by flying stones.
For us long drawbar for bikes and higher payload was deciding factor compared to UK vans. Still prefer UK dining area.
Great video once again, thank you.
Ok, so we bought an Adria as a young family in 1992, because the price point then, meant we could buy a new caravan for the same money as a used UK caravan, so it was a no brainer.
We were happy with that van for 22 years until it really wasn’t suitable anymore. In 2013 we went looking for another new van, so obviously looked at Adria again. We found (as you have pointed out) that we much preferred the UK style and layout, and the price was now no cheaper than a new UK van. So, we bought a Sprite, which served us very well for 11 years, until we felt it was time to quit while we were ahead, so to speak.
Once again, looked at Adria, and decided, they really aren’t to our taste at all, neither is any German brand (although we own two different brands of German cars at present and like them both) so we bought an off new Bailey, which really suits us well and we love the style and layout.
We totally accept the continental brands are probably better built, but at the same time are prepared to accept the relatively poor build quality to have a van we really like, and are comfortable in.
Terrible to admit we are happy to put up with inferior build, but continental stuff is just not for us.
Incidentally, you are so right about that horseshoe seating and table on those early Adrias, not good at all 😊
That’s for your comments, it’s a shame the market just doesn’t seem to be big enough for the European manufacturers to want to invest in producing an ‘U.K.’ style van. Out of interest, has everything been okay with the Bailey, still not getting any positive feedback from caravan owners..
That’s for your comments, it’s a shame the market just doesn’t seem to be big enough for the European manufacturers to want to invest in producing an ‘U.K.’ style van. Out of interest, has everything been okay with the Bailey, still not getting any positive feedback from caravan owners..
@@atlanticcaravansUK We Are very pleased with it. Bought at 18 months old, six months ago. We don’t think it was ever used, if it was, we can see no evidence of it.
Only two small issues so far, the plastic hinge pin at the bottom of the Dometic 10 fridge snapped (just not fit for purpose) and the bed slats jam when you pull them out. This is due to a warped piece of strengthening wood below the bottom drawer on the chest, which means each slat catches as you pull them out.
This van replaces a Sprite that was bought new, kept for 11 years, and it was faultless. Were we lucky?
Having said all this, we absolutely love the Bailey, the layout and style is what drew us to it over another Sprite.
I have Adria 1979,my father bought it new and we had tons off nice trips back then ,its still in great condition ,never had any dump even its on open with out any cover for 45 years ,off course is outdated now,my father pass away so i keep it.I have Hobby and i am happy with (except i cant find spare parts for broken stuff from hail) ,but i like UK layouts more but with all video's off UK caravans leaking water in it was afraid to buy them
My Guist caravan for 11 years my Hymer 570 for 15 years and my present Hymer 590 is on 5 years and counting. Before the German caravans I had 6 British caravans and all went damp very quickly my last British caravan I ended up suing the manufacturer and the dealer but less to them though because it was not there fault. So 6 years British and the rest German. My Hymer 590 came with a to with full surrounded sound and made up bed. Heavy omg yes but build like a tank. I will never by British and that breaks my heart.
Every one how has looked at our caravan is amazed by it. Yes the door is on the “wrong side “ but that has never been a problem. We paid £37,000 for it was offered £40,000 a few years ago, every one was offered more but what was the point I could not afforded the new £50k price
James
There is definitely something that the German manufacturers could do with the willingness to buy a U.K. made van being at rock bottom, there is a big opportunity..
Brilliant content and I agree with everything you say . I so wish British manufacturers would wake up and produce units that were worth the money. If a manufacturer could build units with British layouts but with German build quality they would be in high demand . We would like to buy a new British MH , ours is only 3 years old , however it has taken me 2 years to get all the warranty issues sorted and now everything is working and dry all is good ! BUT I am now hesitant to buy another new British van as I just know we will have warrenty issues again 😢 that said love the German build quality but don’t like the layouts . So I reckon we will just keep what we got enjoy it and keep our bit of money in the bank ! lol ( That’s not good for the industry )
A lot of sites in the UK don't take Germany caravans cuz the door is on the left hand side.
We bought a new Adria 552UP in Australia for 40K AUD in 2019, in 2023 they were trying to sell them in OZ for 74K AUD
Is the first line of defence against water ingress just sealant on the German vans like the British ones ?
Actually that’s a good point, I don’t think it is, I’m sure we were shown a Hobby in the factory and it was mentioned that everything was overlapped and the rail on the top was a sealed down as a second line of defence. And the sealer they were used was a nightmare to get off, it’s black and Very effective. I would love to be able to double check that, but I remember them having trouble getting it all apart, it wasn’t for water ingress, it had been damaged.
Even Hymer have now been bitten by the lightness and cost bug and Thor have pulled the Nova vans on which their reputation was built. The current Nova Lights are nowhere near as strong and well specified. A 2 berth Nova GL would now cost the best part of £50k and their loaded weights are up to 1800kg. The most expensive UK 2 berth is £30k and max weight 1500kg. If UK makers made their vans to similar weights and prices they'd hardly sell any and be out of business. The Germans are fine for those that can afford both the van and a big tug but the mainstream UK buyers aren't there.
We would never buy a Hobby, they are seen as a travellers caravan in the UK.
I didn’t say anything in the video, but I did suggest a complete rebrand of any potential UK product due to preconceptions.
We're in the market for a caravan. I'm pretty convinced it will be a Hymer or Knaus. We only travel in Europe (fine weather campers😂) so the sight of a full size oven/grill in a caravan or camper is ridiculous to us. Why can't UK manufactures figure out that basic doesn't mean cheap/low quality!?
Your comments re Germans and TV is weird. I've never seen so many people obsessed with satellite dishes😂
Oh, maybe it tv thing isn’t relevant now, it was a while ago.
@@atlanticcaravansUK maybe they don't actually watch TV? It's just a competition to see who's got the biggest, motorised dish🤔😂
BTW I wasn't being snarky about your video, which is absolutely spot on👍
What's the best made caravan in the UK market at the minute ?
I’ll be doing a video on that shortly.
@atlanticcaravansUK seen your videos with the swift problems and we seem to have some of them faults ,so looking to change or worse case sanario packing in caravaning ,but we love our caravan holidays
@@paulgalley5698 this is a big issue, hearing it a lot..
you hit a lot of nails on the head there.👍
Thanks, I’ve been noticing things for a long time, and I do love to waffle..
Import tax has killed off any chance of a European caravan ever taking off in the UK.
Yes, good point.
No room for common sense in this industry.
It’s not “The English Market”……….. it’s the UK Market
Like the German cars vastly overrated when comes to build and durability. Have some benefits but too often the design is poor and off-putting and that is why they are not purchased.