This was a fantastic video Brad. Very knowledgeable, accurate, and fair. I’ve definitely made a lot of mistakes. I have a ton of regrets. I’m trying to move forward and be a better person. I appreciate your criticism, your opinion and especially your friendship. Both in 2016 and now. You’re a great guy.
What about the money made from it though Trevor? Saying you regret it is all well and good, and no doubt true - but I’m sure those ill-gotten dollars helped you sleep a bit easier. Why not donate it to a charity at the time, do some good with it instead of lining your own pockets. EDIT - So what if Trevor ended up losing money after legal fees etc, you’re missing the point - he should’ve used his personal wealth to defend himself and not the money made from the website. I harbour no ill towards Trevor, nor did I use the site, but it’s using the dirty money to defend your dirty actions that I can’t agree with.
The reason Syndicate walked away with his respect mostly intact is because the moment it came out he apologised whereas Tmartn tried to blame the viewers for not investigating it
Eh, I don’t think this is true. Tom was smart and stayed quiet. Didn’t react. Therefore the internet was quick to forget. I made that (horrendous) apology video. My world was crumbling around me. I had let thousands of people down and I was panicking. My original apology video was much different, but my lawyers advised me not to post it as there were threats of a lawsuit on the horizon. An off-the-cuff, brutally honest video would have been the opposing counsel’s wet dream because lawyers are experts at twisting your word. The “apology” video I posted, if you can even call it that, was lawyer-approved and about the only thing I was allowed to say. I wanted nothing more than to talk to my fans and to tell the truth, admit where I was wrong, and disprove all the BS that H3 and EightThoughts were incorrect about, but I couldn’t. I would have been better off completely ignoring it.
I love ur honesty. The only reason I keep coming back to this channel. It’s so refreshing and compelling to listen to. I hate how everyone is so dishonest in this decaying world. I despise deception because we will never ever find meaning or strengthen relationships if we don’t know realities.
“Coop I don’t know how I’m gonna make this video bud” Legit Trevor, mate, you’re a scumbag. There was no lapse in judgment, you would have continued if you didn’t get caught, and we all know it. You’re kidding yourself.
Syndicate apologized and mostly stayed silent. He accepted he was caught. Tmartn stayed defiant, deflected responsibility, was disingenuous, and insulted viewers/customers until it all fell apart at the very end. The old saying goes - You reap what you sow. He wasn't sorry. He was sorry he was caught. Shame on him.
Totally independent to the situation, Syndicate continues to dupe us all until he hits 10 mil again, then he disappears with absolutely no explanation, but then claims we should feel bad because he’s incredibly busy. Like dude, just tell people you’re stepping away for a bit, stop with the bullshit lies.
Lets be honest....all I know is that, when YOUR FRIEND is in trouble... and youre someone's true friend....you don't hang them out to dry. You keep it real with them, you don't air their dirty laundry out... you give them that real, and help them rebuild. People mess up. But everyone deserves at LEAST a second chance...Drifter, you kept it real with Trev... and while everyone was going in on ya boy TmarTn, you did the right thing. And I bet TmarTn is 100% grateful for you bruh. No worries.
Great video. Personally, I came to like TmarTn after he started vloging with clips like "Super Cooper Sunday". I helped me connect to him and I don't give a crap anymore about the CSGO controversy. I like his vlogs and its good to see the his channel's success isn't dependent on a video game. We're watching for them not COD
My phone's auto spell is powerful. Sometimes it MAKES ME WANT TO GO BUY MOUNTAIN DEW! DO THE DEW RIGHT NOW AND BUY COD POINTS. ALSO DON'T FORGET BUSH DID 911
Ok ive finished now and it was actually very good, i do agree with alot of these points, forgive people, have good morals and dont gamble, its very nice, thanks for this.
@@iJxlly because loyalty is a kind of moral as well. The quality of morals themselves is complicated and can come into conflict. This is why forgiveness is the way towards moral progress in this world. Outsiders see this guy as having poor morals and use his actions to justify their perception of his character. However, Drift0r sees something different as his close friend and instead feels that someone with otherwise good character made some bad choices. Looking into the details of any person of "poor" morals will always show a complicated picture. This doesn't mean blame isn't justified in these cases but the magnitude of hatred that outsiders feel isn't so easy to defend.
I believe this guy is probably slimy in real life too because clearly it’s not a long thought process when he’s throws his supposed “friend” under the bus so easily
8:25 that's is not a "type of lie" it was a lie straight up. he did not need to hold up information when he allready miscaracterized it "i found this website" is pretty different from "I own this website"
you can still find things you own find /fīnd/ verb 2.recognize or discover (something) to be present. what he did was definitely a type of lie, drift was correct. please at least look up the definitions of words. many have 2 or more definitions and assuming the 1st definition is always what is being used and ignoring context makes you look like an idiot
You need to learn how to spell and need a grammar lesson before you comment on videos. 1) That's is 2) hold up information. (sounds really weird) 3) allready 4)miscaracterized
A true friend puts the work in to help them, not abandon them. Committing an atrocity has one good side and it's in finding who your true friends are. Those of you who are quick to abandon will never understand the emotions of true friendship.
To me the situation was blown out if proportion, it was a legit working website and nobody got scammed because it wasn't rigged. People just say it's rigged with no proof. He should have disclosed it but that's the end of it. He's always seemed like a decent dude and I don't hate him for it.
Holy crap, yes. Like what in the world. I didn’t see it as that big of a deal. Since we know he didn’t rig it at all, it’s not a big deal. He definitely should have pointed out that he owned the website, but this is way too much. He lost so much.
This was good, been a hot minute since i watched one of your vids Driftor as I kinda stepped away from Cod a few years ago. I appreciate what you have done, by forgiving and really wish most people felt this way about certain situations. It kinda feels like the Cod RUclipsr community was a cesspool a few years ago with a few people who got into it, but i was reminded of how joyous you can be, thank you.
For being very factual driftor saying that this targeted rich college students is completely false. The target audience was his viewers which are mostly the12-18 year old demographic. The “rich college students” seems like he is a white knight robbing the poor, which in fact he is not. I agree that he destroyed his brand and the death threats are not right.
Broke ass 13 year olds don't have money for big gambles. Upper middle class college students with discretionary spending do. Neither one is Robin Hood by any measure though.
@@Drift0r If that were true (it's not) there wouldn't have been lawsuits brought against Steam and CSGO Lotto by parents of CHILDREN who lost thousands to CSGO Lotto - one example from a filing against Syndicate and Tmartn: "Plaintiff C.B. is a resident and citizen of Broward County, Florida, whose minor son N.B. has been a customer of Valve since 2014. He is an on-line player of CS:GO and has entered into wagering as described infra . Specifically, Plaintiff ‘s minor son purchased CS:GO from Defendant, purchased numerous Skins, gambled them and lost money, and knew that he could cash out the value of the Skins for real money prior to losing them while gambling...Her understanding was that her minor son was using her accounts and money on numerous occasions to buy something to be used in his video game similar to other in-game or in-app purchases"
S1ipperyJim The website clearly stated that you must be 18 years or older. And the parents should do a better job of knowing what their kids spend their money on.
S1ipperyJim why does a kid have access to a credit card and also they probably spends money before on there parents credit card so they were probably aware there kid would do something stupid like this, I know this isn’t always the case but parents should be paying more attention instead of letting there kids have access to everything without checking what they are doing.
I used to watch you back in the BO2 days. I always thought you were different. I haven’t checked your channel in years and when I do I see this and honestly, that is the exact thing I would have done too. You need to get the entire picture before you can pass judgement on something. And if you learn from your mistakes and don’t make them again, then it was a lesson well taught. You got a good head on your shoulders. Keep it up man!
Trust me, I'm not one to defend Tmartn, I don't agree with what he did.... but I do think he kinda of got screwed over by the dog eat dog community of youtube. I remember first hearing about this situation through Eight Thoughts and the amount of exposure that he got from completely bashing Trevor was huge... and once you get that kind of momentum on youtube, you keep doing what's working for you. So it was just a lot of constant and even excessive hate that made the situation linger and I'm sure the situation was exacerbated (at least on the youtube side of things) by people trying to capitalize on it all.
@@JohnnyOrgan idk how you guys can hate on someone for doing something that in all honesty isn't that bad yeah he lied about owning it but besides that everything was fine you act like he stole money from people gambling is gambling not a money making method if you think any other way then that it's an addiction
@@alexandertony2475 Because he lied from day one. He "found" the site. He made clickbait titles like "Win $15000 in ONE DAY". He got caught. He lied that he became part of the company AFTER trying out the site but he actually set it up from day one. He made an "apology" video in which he didn't really apologise and lied again about his involvement. Then he told more lies with a video featuring his dog after he added disclosure of advertising to the vid descriptions once he was caught. He's a liar and a con artist. He had multiple opportunities to come clean but instead he just kept telling more lies. And despite what Driftor claims, they targeted their young audience and encouraged them to gamble on their site. Driftor seems a decent bloke. These guys are nowhere near his class as a human being and he'll eventually find that out one day.
I like how you took time to clearly define the differences between morals, ethics, and legality at the beginning of the video. It made the rest of the commentary easy to digest. You’re content always teaches me so much as both a regular person, and a fellow creator. I’m excited to see what’s next for you and this channel.
He feels guilty about it, still kept the money tho lmao. Play with someone you like sure but dont try and justify it as an ethical decision because tmartn does not see an issue with what he did.
TmarTn was actually my favorite RUclipsr for a really long time. When all of this stuff happened I defended him a lot through it even though I didn’t know the full story. Nowadays, I’ve moved on (not too interested in fortnite), and I appreciate the fact that you’ve given a bit of insight into this whole thing. It’s always good to hear all sides of a story, and it sucks that things aren’t the way they used to be, but that’s how life works. Gotta move along with it. TL;DR Great video. Thanks :D
@@retryNN Did you watch the video. Again what yall are getting wrong is Tmartn never scammed anyone. Running a gambling site isnt scamming. the people who gambled and won got their winnings. what Tmartn did wrong is say he found this awesome website to get traffic to the website but what he didnt say was that he was the owner of said website. That was the only bad but not illegal at the time thing.
@@TheBlaze267 lol yes he did scam, he acted like he would win these MASSIVE skin prizes yet it was all fixed because he knew he would win. He scammed people into thinking they could easily win skins, which you couldnt without sinking money into it. Hes poopoo
Out of all of my subscription list you are the only Call of Duty channel I'm still subscribed to. Been here since 2010. I lost interest in CoD, but not in your commentaries
I’m usually a very long winded person when it comes to writing comments but this is really simple. TmarTn is human just like everyone else. He made a mistake, he owns that mistake, and to be frank, I would say that the punishment he received was actually too excessive in comparison to the “crime”. Much of that had to do with how large of a public figure he was and still is and because he ended up becoming the face of this when there were people out there who did far worse in regards to CSG Lotto. Honestly for those of you out there who still have ill-feelings towards him it’s time to get over it. Really it is. End of story. 😉
I didn't even know about all this to be honest. I used to really enjoy watching TMartn back in the MW3 days, really informative for me personally and it's great to see that there's people like you with a positive outlook on even things like that.
The amount of people in these comments that lack the ability to think critically is shocking. Either you believe Drift0r or you don't. If you don't, you should really try to see what he has to gain by being untruthful and his reputation. Drift0r has nothing to gain and a lot to lose from making a video like this, and his reputation is that of someone that generally, I'm sure there have been several mistakes, tries to hold himself to a high moral standard. It's easy to say things when you are outside a situation, but once you're in a situation you might act the same way. You don't know unless you're there. The long and short of it is a man lied about being compensated by a business. That's the only completely definite mistake he made. Everything else around it is people trying to micromanage someone else according to their own morals.
@Angry Pent You still have to pay yourself with a controlling stake in a corporation. Compensation was received. The standard for stating such wasn't met. How they were compensated is unimportant. Employee vs actor(Also an employee, albeit a temp one) vs owner doesn't matter.
I used to watch TmarTn a lot, and i still go on his second every so often. Honestly I found out about the whole lotto thing at some point, but I never thought of him as a terrible person otherwise. Yes i watched the entire video, before i made this comment. Ill start off by saying that Drift0r is one of the few people on RUclips that i respect. Maybe its because i find that he is honest, maybe its his simple yet logical approach to certain topics. In any case I would have done the same in his position. I understand that him and Trevor became friends IRL. In Drift0r’s position I would be supportive of my friend, even if he committed such a thing. I have my own personal thoughts about life and people. I believe that everyone deserves a chance for forgiveness. Yes, if you are a psychopath and have committed many crime etc, then i would want to personally slaughter you, but that not what we are discussing. To sum it up, everyone fucks up! Sooner or later, the purest person will have done something wrong. Thats just human nature. Some things are forgiven more easily, and I get that. I do understand that what TmarTn did was bad, rotten, call it what you will. But we can all agree that anyone could have done that in his position. But again, its only nature for humans to bash him. I can say for sure that I dont know all the facts, exposed or not exposed, and I dont know if most of those participating in the lotto were underage or not. I dont have hard evidence or all the facts. And quite frankly I dont care, with all due respect. Its not my business. What I do know is that TmarTn understands that he made a mistake and that he has to accept it as a rock in his road. The damage is done, and he may never truly get over the guilt. But, this shouldn’t be something to completely hate the guy over. I do not know the guy on a personal level, but I have no doubt he might be among the nicest people ever. I feel that much of the hate comes from misinformation, and the method in which the media likes to exaggerate and overseason such matters. BIG BOLD LETTERS!!!!! Honestly whenever I see these media stunts trying to capture attention and mislead people it makes me sick. But, thats human nature. So the bottom line is this. TmarTn might never see this comment, but if he will, I’de like him to understand that while he made a mistake, he shouldnt lose sleep over it. He should instead take it as a lesson and be more careful, that kind of stuff. Other than that, those who bash him, prove yourselves any better. Ill wait. And Trevor, if you see this, keep the gears turning. I may not enjoy Fortnite but all your other stuff is great. I have no doubt that you are a chill guy IRL. Stay Frosty, both you and Drif0r ;)
You know why I love you drift? You show yourself failing. You show your loses in blackout and multiplayer. You don't present yourself as some sort of God who can't be killed or lose. I love it dude, keep it up.
Tmartns positives out weigh the negatives he’s done for this community, but the negatives always stand out more than the positives. I still and will support tmartn. Everybody makes mistakes. Just learn from them and move on
This a dumb comment tmarten took advantage of thousands of kids then when he got caught tried to play dumb by literally playing with his dog. Trevor is a scumbag end of story and this is coming from someone who watched him from the start on mw2
Learn and move on, easy to say when you got the money in the bank. This immoral scumbag needs to pay the price, truly, by donating all his earnings from scamming children to a gambling addiction charity. Then and only then he will redeem himself and earn a second chance. Don't hold your breath on that one.
I obviously haven't heard that much of the story till now but I personally learned alot from TmarTn's videos about call of duty during past titles and I still support and appreciate him for that, and would continue to if he was still making those kinds of vids, i always loved the nade throw spots and power position videos, people make mistakes and shouldn't be held over the flame forever for a single miss step, hope to see him make a comeback better then ever.
"It was primarily targeted towards college kids...especially rich college kids." CSGOLotto's Terms of Service: "You must be at least 13 years or older to gamble." *LOL*
been watching this channel the better part of two years now and i have only played one call of duty game; just really enjoy your attitude as well as your approach to life tbh. admire you drift, keep up the good work
Forgiveness is important but we don't have the personal relationship that you do with Tmartn. So when I see tmartn I'm still not going to support him with a click.
Intriguing. And I'm a sucker for some good ole intrigue. Drift- if you're burned out and/or trying to find new things to talk about on this channel, this is a good start. I'd like to see more stuff like this. I'm only one voice in the wilderness, sure. But I figured I'd say it for what it's worth anyway.
The difference between syndicate and tmartn is that when they got busted, tom admitted to it and took the blame and apologized, whereas tmartn when on Scarce and said he didnt own it, everyone was wrong and started blaming the viewers basically. Then followed it with such an awful apology video it turned it into a meme.
Been watching you Driftor for about 7-8 year's, I'm 17 now.... I did also watch tmartn back then but that whole csgolotto definitely shunned me from him. I love your content man, it definitely doesn't get as much love as it used to. I'm glad I grew up watching your content, ideas, gameplay, and of course in depth series. Love ya man 😁
Oh man, Driftor throwback to the Horse Six Zero & Archnemesis06 Piratecast days, they were the reason I started listening to podcasts and ended up creating my own (now ended) your episode with them was great.
This may be one of the most rational gaming videos I’ve seen in a while and answered a long time question of mine while also staying true to what you thought was right when it came to your friend/beliefs by not joining the hate train at the time and I had always wondered why you never really made a vid on it til now. I used to love watching Tmartn cod vids and was bummed by the whole cs:go lotto fiasco, but since the dude probably paid a ton of money in fines (a fitting punishment for shady business practices with his site) and also will likely never return to yt it seems like he’s been punished enough imo
Drifter always shares a good themes in his videos , he’s just an all around genuine guy, I’ve been subbed to him for years , back since he played battlefield 3 before he got married, he’s still the same guy.
I never really was into the whole Tmartin thing, or even had any understanding of it at all before this (yes I live under a rock), but it seems to me he got a lot more hate than he deserved. I mean, yes what he did was wrong, but nobody's perfect and its really easy to get self deluded. I guarentee half of the people criticizing him, have done worse things themselves. It kinda just looks like everyone's jumping on the "lets hate Tmartin" bandwagon.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming I never said he didn't do anything wrong, in fact, I said he was in the wrong. Also, as stated in the video, children weren't his target demographics. I simply said that it seemed more was made out of this than should have been.
I don’t think anyone really remembers this but tmartn’s buddy (Brock) said he was sponsored by csgolotto on his channel over and over than once it all happened all of those videos just disappeared....
If you gamble and go down bc of gambling it's your own fault. It's not the fault of the casino, not the fault of the website, not the fault of anyone else but your own self.
@@xXBlackHawksXx1 No I get you, Trevor should've said from the start he owned the site and whatnot but I can't stand people claiming he's the reason they went broke and saying that he stole from kids. Everyone knows the risks and odds of gambling long before they start, and even of they don't, it's their responsibility to look it up and to not go into something blind. Yes, Trevor made a mistake but he got (and gets for that matter) waaaay too much hate for what he actually did.
This was an EXCELLENT video. You clearly told everyone that the FTC states that the person must state their sponsorship, clearly TMARTN didn’t do that, because he owned the website haha.
It’s honestly kind of sad to me people care that much about this compared to other things people do and still get away with, it all just depends what gets blown up the most I guess
It comes off sounding like you know he did something shady (the whole Found vs. Endorsement argument just shows that he knew what was happening and he decided to go ahead with it.) and you are trying to defend it because you are friends. You didnt stick your nose where it didnt belong, but when being in the public image the company you keep says a lot about you.
The message here is clear: Forgiveness. Doesn’t mean you have to forgive everyone, but in the bigger scheme of life, what Trevor did pales in comparison to what atrocious things thousands of scumbags in the world do on a daily basis to other people. Great vid Drift👍🏻
This guy used to have 3m subs 4 years ago, he has like 3.5m now. Edit: yeah this stuff about the xp bar was not right. Im still 100% sure that there was one pub video with the xp bar cut out, but it is in al the others so he is not trying to hide anything im sorry. I judged to quick and made a misconception.
Herman I never edited the XP bar out? Lmao what?? I haven’t truly enjoyed COD pubs in years. At least not for more than a month or two. I played mainly GameBattles/private matches in MWR. I never made that a secret.
TmarTn Owh wow i didn’t expect you to respond to that, otherwise i would have watched my language, - Stealing content, not really. You asked people for gameplay a lot because you barely played the game which is fair. Chaosxsilencer really stole gameplay once in bo3, he uploaded a random video with grip testing with some other dudes voice without giving a shoutout in the description whatsoever - you travel a lot, i dont take that back - It seems like im not entirely right, i see multiple videos with the xp bar included. I see a few without but those were recorded during dlc events. I could have sworn a MP5 gameplay without the xp bar in a pub match where i saw you level up to level 15 about 40/50 days after release. I cant find that gameplay anymore... it was on vacant. Im not crazy, it did exist. I got upset over it 2 years ago. It also seems that it was not fair to judge you on that one video as you show the xp bar in many more (still low level though, that was the actual problem, but at least you were not trying to hide it). So i apologize for my misconception and accusation. - As a cod fanboy i didn’t like it when cod youtubers stopped playing cod. Without cod you wouldnt be where you are today. Although after recent releases of the series i understand how you can stop enjoying them, i got over it. But because drift0r uploaded this rant, i guess i felt the need to ‘express my feelings’ one more time. Honestly you are(other channels)/were a great youtuber, i dislike how you kinda abandoned your main channel, yet you still upload good content (im not sure nowadays though im sorry, might check it out soon). It sucks that you lost interest in cod.
If Tmartn is the devil then what does that make Activi$ion ?? 🤔 I really struggle to feel for millionaires/billionaires , tried but it just fails. I go off if u make ur bed then you must lie in it 💯 hopefully laws come in and kill these companies from inside out , games are now released half made and mediocre and thats a fact.
So I don’t understand. Why all the criticism, if Tmartn supposedly just ran a fully legitimate CSGO gambling site which didn’t scam kids?? Why has he lost so many sponsors, why has he lost a lot of money? Something doesn’t add up with this story......
Y'know Driftor I haven't played call of duty since black ops 3 but I stay subscribed because of how you are. You are a all around wholesome good dude and nowadays that is really rare I wish you the best of luck man I'll stay subscribed because I wanna see you do well, cheers man.
This was a fantastic video Brad. Very knowledgeable, accurate, and fair.
I’ve definitely made a lot of mistakes. I have a ton of regrets. I’m trying to move forward and be a better person.
I appreciate your criticism, your opinion and especially your friendship. Both in 2016 and now. You’re a great guy.
can we get a response from drift0r for tmartns response to this video
Very respectful Trevor......you're still a jerk
Without my boi TmarTn I wouldn't be good at Call of Duty. TMARTN IS LIT!!!!!
Nioshadow can’t let it go huh? Stay salted then.
What about the money made from it though Trevor? Saying you regret it is all well and good, and no doubt true - but I’m sure those ill-gotten dollars helped you sleep a bit easier. Why not donate it to a charity at the time, do some good with it instead of lining your own pockets.
EDIT - So what if Trevor ended up losing money after legal fees etc, you’re missing the point - he should’ve used his personal wealth to defend himself and not the money made from the website. I harbour no ill towards Trevor, nor did I use the site, but it’s using the dirty money to defend your dirty actions that I can’t agree with.
CSGO lotto does 20 damage against Tmartn up close and 15 at a distance meaning it’ll take between 4-5 lawsuits to kill
Malik lol wtf
This is actually the funniest thing I’ve read on this lame rant.
What a shitty TTK
@@the5starx Where tf did you calculate a TTK from?
This comment is underrated
The reason Syndicate walked away with his respect mostly intact is because the moment it came out he apologised whereas Tmartn tried to blame the viewers for not investigating it
Also because Tom at that point was irrelevant compared to tmartn
For a while he was also trying to claim that what he did was "not that bad"
@@Flinstone_Edible not true
@@Pnk117 it is true tmartn was bigger at that point compared to Tom it's facts even till now he's still irrelevant.
Eh, I don’t think this is true. Tom was smart and stayed quiet. Didn’t react. Therefore the internet was quick to forget.
I made that (horrendous) apology video. My world was crumbling around me. I had let thousands of people down and I was panicking. My original apology video was much different, but my lawyers advised me not to post it as there were threats of a lawsuit on the horizon. An off-the-cuff, brutally honest video would have been the opposing counsel’s wet dream because lawyers are experts at twisting your word. The “apology” video I posted, if you can even call it that, was lawyer-approved and about the only thing I was allowed to say. I wanted nothing more than to talk to my fans and to tell the truth, admit where I was wrong, and disprove all the BS that H3 and EightThoughts were incorrect about, but I couldn’t. I would have been better off completely ignoring it.
I love ur honesty. The only reason I keep coming back to this channel. It’s so refreshing and compelling to listen to. I hate how everyone is so dishonest in this decaying world. I despise deception because we will never ever find meaning or strengthen relationships if we don’t know realities.
Driftor is actually playing with cooper, not tmartn.
juggalohunter100 cooper actually controls that family, tmartn is just a robot
Coop is better at Blackout than me
@@TmarTn lmao is he better at not being a scumbag?
@@PERK-30 🤣
“Coop I don’t know how I’m gonna make this video bud” Legit Trevor, mate, you’re a scumbag. There was no lapse in judgment, you would have continued if you didn’t get caught, and we all know it. You’re kidding yourself.
Syndicate apologized and mostly stayed silent. He accepted he was caught. Tmartn stayed defiant, deflected responsibility, was disingenuous, and insulted viewers/customers until it all fell apart at the very end. The old saying goes - You reap what you sow. He wasn't sorry. He was sorry he was caught. Shame on him.
improvisewitme This^^^^^^
Totally independent to the situation, Syndicate continues to dupe us all until he hits 10 mil again, then he disappears with absolutely no explanation, but then claims we should feel bad because he’s incredibly busy. Like dude, just tell people you’re stepping away for a bit, stop with the bullshit lies.
The nail that sticks out gets hammered
Just let it go
Didn’t Captain Price say you reap what you sow as well?
Very elaborate video!
Hey tabor
Oh hey Tabor
Challenge Complete.
If your not subscribed to this guy you should be help him catch up with t series
I miss your infinite warfare vids
Lets be honest....all I know is that, when YOUR FRIEND is in trouble... and youre someone's true friend....you don't hang them out to dry. You keep it real with them, you don't air their dirty laundry out... you give them that real, and help them rebuild. People mess up. But everyone deserves at LEAST a second chance...Drifter, you kept it real with Trev... and while everyone was going in on ya boy TmarTn, you did the right thing. And I bet TmarTn is 100% grateful for you bruh. No worries.
It depends
Fo real doh
True to a point. There are definitely certain acts that are unforgivable. I’m sure you can think of a few
Great video. Personally, I came to like TmarTn after he started vloging with clips like "Super Cooper Sunday". I helped me connect to him and I don't give a crap anymore about the CSGO controversy. I like his vlogs and its good to see the his channel's success isn't dependent on a video game. We're watching for them not COD
Preach 🙌
LOL wow
liftingcarbsdaily warriors=Bandwagon
I personally miss his Cod intel stuff. He’s how I always knew about the insider indo
@@UrinalUser more like Warriors = 97% Bandwagon
TmarTn has NEVER truly recovered from that drama. His (main) channel died because of it and rightly so.
His 2nd channel popping tho.
J O S U E main channel died because he doesn’t play COD on it.. His vlog channel is even catching up
He also just doesn’t really like COD anymore so he doesn’t post videos on it.
The Greatmagic no it’s because cod died lol
Dylan Vela Just because it’s not the #1 game doesn’t mean it died
"Psycopaths have really weird morals..." dont you mean sociopaths?
They are overlapping groups but yes the same logitch applies. Morals are by definition unique to each person.
Drift0r the same logitech applies... *this is a sponsored Reply *
My phone's auto spell is powerful. Sometimes it MAKES ME WANT TO GO BUY MOUNTAIN DEW! DO THE DEW RIGHT NOW AND BUY COD POINTS. ALSO DON'T FORGET BUSH DID 911
Stupid auto spell went crazy again
@@Drift0r are you on drugs drift?
Ok ive finished now and it was actually very good, i do agree with alot of these points, forgive people, have good morals and dont gamble, its very nice, thanks for this.
kechup squid + add do drugs and stay out of school!
How can you square having good morals and remaining friends with people who obviously have such scummy ones?
@@sander2723 in*?
@@iJxlly because loyalty is a kind of moral as well. The quality of morals themselves is complicated and can come into conflict. This is why forgiveness is the way towards moral progress in this world. Outsiders see this guy as having poor morals and use his actions to justify their perception of his character. However, Drift0r sees something different as his close friend and instead feels that someone with otherwise good character made some bad choices. Looking into the details of any person of "poor" morals will always show a complicated picture. This doesn't mean blame isn't justified in these cases but the magnitude of hatred that outsiders feel isn't so easy to defend.
I want to know how Tmartn responds to this vid
Edit: He responded, a pretty nice one.
I don't think people should carry on the hate for so long IMO.
he is more successful why should he respond lol
Probably with a golden retriever and a word from his lawyer
If they still play together and are still somewhat friends it's entirely possible tmartn Knows how drift0r feels about it
@@brandong7675 tmartn prolly mad
I believe this guy is probably slimy in real life too because clearly it’s not a long thought process when he’s throws his supposed “friend” under the bus so easily
8:25 that's is not a "type of lie" it was a lie straight up. he did not need to hold up information when he allready miscaracterized it "i found this website" is pretty different from "I own this website"
You misunderstood; he slurred his speech, but was actually saying that he "foundED this website".
This is a sarcastic comment.
you can still find things you own
find
/fīnd/
verb
2.recognize or discover (something) to be present.
what he did was definitely a type of lie, drift was correct. please at least look up the definitions of words.
many have 2 or more definitions and assuming the 1st definition is always what is being used and ignoring context makes you look like an idiot
@@TheShizzlemop You need to improve your reading comprehension. It's not like he lost/forgot his website just to "find" it again some time later
You need to learn how to spell and need a grammar lesson before you comment on videos.
1) That's is
2) hold up information. (sounds really weird)
3) allready
4)miscaracterized
@@BosSoxFan15 Sure thing kid, right after you take your anger management classes.
You're just being a loyal friend...i can't knock you for that. Plus you didn't kick him when he was down so that's respectable
if my "friend's" are running casino scams then I'm going to kick them like any other scumbag when they are down
A true friend puts the work in to help them, not abandon them. Committing an atrocity has one good side and it's in finding who your true friends are. Those of you who are quick to abandon will never understand the emotions of true friendship.
Caius Nair I agree w u
@@deathmetalalchemist5861 you wouldn’t accept their apology though I would
To me the situation was blown out if proportion, it was a legit working website and nobody got scammed because it wasn't rigged. People just say it's rigged with no proof. He should have disclosed it but that's the end of it. He's always seemed like a decent dude and I don't hate him for it.
You have zero proof of that, so none of what you just said means anything.
Holy crap, yes. Like what in the world. I didn’t see it as that big of a deal. Since we know he didn’t rig it at all, it’s not a big deal. He definitely should have pointed out that he owned the website, but this is way too much. He lost so much.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming you didn't watch the video did you lmao
@@MysweetCharmander yeah because saying something means it's the truth 100% of the time.
And I'm the King of Denmark.
@@lyn4739 why did you reply to this thinking i would care
Respect for making this
Tmartn disagrees lol
This was good, been a hot minute since i watched one of your vids Driftor as I kinda stepped away from Cod a few years ago. I appreciate what you have done, by forgiving and really wish most people felt this way about certain situations. It kinda feels like the Cod RUclipsr community was a cesspool a few years ago with a few people who got into it, but i was reminded of how joyous you can be, thank you.
mistakes get amplified to a crazy extent on the internet
For being very factual driftor saying that this targeted rich college students is completely false. The target audience was his viewers which are mostly the12-18 year old demographic. The “rich college students” seems like he is a white knight robbing the poor, which in fact he is not. I agree that he destroyed his brand and the death threats are not right.
Broke ass 13 year olds don't have money for big gambles. Upper middle class college students with discretionary spending do. Neither one is Robin Hood by any measure though.
@@Drift0r If that were true (it's not) there wouldn't have been lawsuits brought against Steam and CSGO Lotto by parents of CHILDREN who lost thousands to CSGO Lotto - one example from a filing against Syndicate and Tmartn: "Plaintiff C.B. is a resident and citizen of Broward County, Florida, whose minor son N.B. has been a customer of Valve since 2014. He is an on-line player of CS:GO and has entered into wagering as described infra
. Specifically, Plaintiff ‘s minor son purchased CS:GO from Defendant, purchased numerous Skins, gambled them and lost money, and knew that he could cash out the value of the Skins for real money prior to losing them while gambling...Her understanding was that her minor son was using her accounts and money on numerous occasions to buy something to be used in his video game similar to other in-game or in-app purchases"
S1ipperyJim The website clearly stated that you must be 18 years or older. And the parents should do a better job of knowing what their kids spend their money on.
S1ipperyJim why does a kid have access to a credit card and also they probably spends money before on there parents credit card so they were probably aware there kid would do something stupid like this, I know this isn’t always the case but parents should be paying more attention instead of letting there kids have access to everything without checking what they are doing.
@@advenco344 He still lied lmao
90% of these commenters haven’t watched the video or remotely understand the situation
Yeah imagine still being angry over something that didn't affect you 2 or 3 years ago
I used to watch you back in the BO2 days. I always thought you were different. I haven’t checked your channel in years and when I do I see this and honestly, that is the exact thing I would have done too. You need to get the entire picture before you can pass judgement on something. And if you learn from your mistakes and don’t make them again, then it was a lesson well taught. You got a good head on your shoulders. Keep it up man!
Trust me, I'm not one to defend Tmartn, I don't agree with what he did.... but I do think he kinda of got screwed over by the dog eat dog community of youtube. I remember first hearing about this situation through Eight Thoughts and the amount of exposure that he got from completely bashing Trevor was huge... and once you get that kind of momentum on youtube, you keep doing what's working for you. So it was just a lot of constant and even excessive hate that made the situation linger and I'm sure the situation was exacerbated (at least on the youtube side of things) by people trying to capitalize on it all.
Or RUclipsrs were simply aghast by the blatant con job and barefaced lying from one of their own and tried to warn their viewers.
@@JohnnyOrgan idk how you guys can hate on someone for doing something that in all honesty isn't that bad yeah he lied about owning it but besides that everything was fine you act like he stole money from people gambling is gambling not a money making method if you think any other way then that it's an addiction
@@alexandertony2475 Because he lied from day one. He "found" the site. He made clickbait titles like "Win $15000 in ONE DAY". He got caught. He lied that he became part of the company AFTER trying out the site but he actually set it up from day one. He made an "apology" video in which he didn't really apologise and lied again about his involvement. Then he told more lies with a video featuring his dog after he added disclosure of advertising to the vid descriptions once he was caught.
He's a liar and a con artist. He had multiple opportunities to come clean but instead he just kept telling more lies.
And despite what Driftor claims, they targeted their young audience and encouraged them to gamble on their site.
Driftor seems a decent bloke. These guys are nowhere near his class as a human being and he'll eventually find that out one day.
@@alexandertony2475 actually, this type of play is called a "casino scam" and it's illegal which is why he had to deal with the FTC
@@deathmetalalchemist5861 he actually described in the video why it wasn't illegal at the time
I like how you took time to clearly define the differences between morals, ethics, and legality at the beginning of the video. It made the rest of the commentary easy to digest. You’re content always teaches me so much as both a regular person, and a fellow creator. I’m excited to see what’s next for you and this channel.
"This man doesn't NEED another spankin from daddy"
That was legitimately the smoothest ad transition I've ever seen, and I've seen some damn smooth ad transition (polymatter)
He feels guilty about it, still kept the money tho lmao. Play with someone you like sure but dont try and justify it as an ethical decision because tmartn does not see an issue with what he did.
TmarTn was actually my favorite RUclipsr for a really long time. When all of this stuff happened I defended him a lot through it even though I didn’t know the full story. Nowadays, I’ve moved on (not too interested in fortnite), and I appreciate the fact that you’ve given a bit of insight into this whole thing. It’s always good to hear all sides of a story, and it sucks that things aren’t the way they used to be, but that’s how life works. Gotta move along with it.
TL;DR Great video. Thanks :D
Some guy gave death threats to ur wife and now ur friends with him??? Bruh
I have my own way of solving problems.
@@Drift0r
Your wife must feel really valued...
@@retryNN Did you watch the video. Again what yall are getting wrong is Tmartn never scammed anyone. Running a gambling site isnt scamming. the people who gambled and won got their winnings. what Tmartn did wrong is say he found this awesome website to get traffic to the website but what he didnt say was that he was the owner of said website. That was the only bad but not illegal at the time thing.
@@TheBlaze267 lol yes he did scam, he acted like he would win these MASSIVE skin prizes yet it was all fixed because he knew he would win. He scammed people into thinking they could easily win skins, which you couldnt without sinking money into it. Hes poopoo
@Comrade Yngvarr what happened
Out of all of my subscription list you are the only Call of Duty channel I'm still subscribed to. Been here since 2010. I lost interest in CoD, but not in your commentaries
Same thing man, but since ~2012
I’m usually a very long winded person when it comes to writing comments but this is really simple. TmarTn is human just like everyone else. He made a mistake, he owns that mistake, and to be frank, I would say that the punishment he received was actually too excessive in comparison to the “crime”. Much of that had to do with how large of a public figure he was and still is and because he ended up becoming the face of this when there were people out there who did far worse in regards to CSG Lotto. Honestly for those of you out there who still have ill-feelings towards him it’s time to get over it. Really it is. End of story. 😉
I didn't even know about all this to be honest. I used to really enjoy watching TMartn back in the MW3 days, really informative for me personally and it's great to see that there's people like you with a positive outlook on even things like that.
The amount of people in these comments that lack the ability to think critically is shocking.
Either you believe Drift0r or you don't. If you don't, you should really try to see what he has to gain by being untruthful and his reputation. Drift0r has nothing to gain and a lot to lose from making a video like this, and his reputation is that of someone that generally, I'm sure there have been several mistakes, tries to hold himself to a high moral standard.
It's easy to say things when you are outside a situation, but once you're in a situation you might act the same way. You don't know unless you're there.
The long and short of it is a man lied about being compensated by a business. That's the only completely definite mistake he made. Everything else around it is people trying to micromanage someone else according to their own morals.
@Angry Pent You still have to pay yourself with a controlling stake in a corporation. Compensation was received. The standard for stating such wasn't met. How they were compensated is unimportant. Employee vs actor(Also an employee, albeit a temp one) vs owner doesn't matter.
Good on you mate. You're the real definition of a true friend. Hope most people take this video as a learning lesson rather than hating you.
I used to watch TmarTn a lot, and i still go on his second every so often. Honestly I found out about the whole lotto thing at some point, but I never thought of him as a terrible person otherwise.
Yes i watched the entire video, before i made this comment.
Ill start off by saying that Drift0r is one of the few people on RUclips that i respect. Maybe its because i find that he is honest, maybe its his simple yet logical approach to certain topics. In any case I would have done the same in his position. I understand that him and Trevor became friends IRL. In Drift0r’s position I would be supportive of my friend, even if he committed such a thing.
I have my own personal thoughts about life and people. I believe that everyone deserves a chance for forgiveness. Yes, if you are a psychopath and have committed many crime etc, then i would want to personally slaughter you, but that not what we are discussing.
To sum it up, everyone fucks up! Sooner or later, the purest person will have done something wrong. Thats just human nature.
Some things are forgiven more easily, and I get that. I do understand that what TmarTn did was bad, rotten, call it what you will. But we can all agree that anyone could have done that in his position. But again, its only nature for humans to bash him.
I can say for sure that I dont know all the facts, exposed or not exposed, and I dont know if most of those participating in the lotto were underage or not. I dont have hard evidence or all the facts. And quite frankly I dont care, with all due respect. Its not my business.
What I do know is that TmarTn understands that he made a mistake and that he has to accept it as a rock in his road. The damage is done, and he may never truly get over the guilt. But, this shouldn’t be something to completely hate the guy over.
I do not know the guy on a personal level, but I have no doubt he might be among the nicest people ever.
I feel that much of the hate comes from misinformation, and the method in which the media likes to exaggerate and overseason such matters. BIG BOLD LETTERS!!!!! Honestly whenever I see these media stunts trying to capture attention and mislead people it makes me sick. But, thats human nature.
So the bottom line is this. TmarTn might never see this comment, but if he will, I’de like him to understand that while he made a mistake, he shouldnt lose sleep over it. He should instead take it as a lesson and be more careful, that kind of stuff.
Other than that, those who bash him, prove yourselves any better. Ill wait. And Trevor, if you see this, keep the gears turning. I may not enjoy Fortnite but all your other stuff is great. I have no doubt that you are a chill guy IRL.
Stay Frosty, both you and Drif0r ;)
You know why I love you drift? You show yourself failing. You show your loses in blackout and multiplayer. You don't present yourself as some sort of God who can't be killed or lose. I love it dude, keep it up.
Tmartns positives out weigh the negatives he’s done for this community, but the negatives always stand out more than the positives. I still and will support tmartn. Everybody makes mistakes. Just learn from them and move on
This a dumb comment tmarten took advantage of thousands of kids then when he got caught tried to play dumb by literally playing with his dog. Trevor is a scumbag end of story and this is coming from someone who watched him from the start on mw2
Learn and move on, easy to say when you got the money in the bank. This immoral scumbag needs to pay the price, truly, by donating all his earnings from scamming children to a gambling addiction charity. Then and only then he will redeem himself and earn a second chance. Don't hold your breath on that one.
What exactly has he done? I mean really, wtf has he done? I don't recall anything outside of clickbaiting and unethical business practices.
TmarTn is who he is. I don't care either way, but really, what has he done? The Race? Sure, he is a part of that-and it's a good cause-but what else?
I obviously haven't heard that much of the story till now but I personally learned alot from TmarTn's videos about call of duty during past titles and I still support and appreciate him for that, and would continue to if he was still making those kinds of vids, i always loved the nade throw spots and power position videos, people make mistakes and shouldn't be held over the flame forever for a single miss step, hope to see him make a comeback better then ever.
Interesting, will Tmartn come to comment section to leave some comment?
We'll see
@@Drift0r Hey Drift, did you consult tmartn prior to making this video? just wondering. also love all your vids
Corey55 he commented on a comment somewhere already
Yes I can confirm, he is
He has now wrote a response
This was an awesome discussion, I love your videos thanks for making them
"It was primarily targeted towards college kids...especially rich college kids."
CSGOLotto's Terms of Service: "You must be at least 13 years or older to gamble."
*LOL*
There's a difference between a target market and the legal age limit... you know that, right?
been watching this channel the better part of two years now and i have only played one call of duty game; just really enjoy your attitude as well as your approach to life tbh. admire you drift, keep up the good work
Am i the only guy who has experienced when i die, the killcam shows somebody else die?
i'd rather listen to you talk all day than watch gameplay. keep up the amazing content, driffee
Forgiveness is important but we don't have the personal relationship that you do with Tmartn. So when I see tmartn I'm still not going to support him with a click.
drift wasn't trying to get you to watch Trevor's content again, he was trying to explain why he forgave him. i see what you mean tho
Intriguing. And I'm a sucker for some good ole intrigue. Drift- if you're burned out and/or trying to find new things to talk about on this channel, this is a good start. I'd like to see more stuff like this. I'm only one voice in the wilderness, sure. But I figured I'd say it for what it's worth anyway.
The difference between syndicate and tmartn is that when they got busted, tom admitted to it and took the blame and apologized, whereas tmartn when on Scarce and said he didnt own it, everyone was wrong and started blaming the viewers basically. Then followed it with such an awful apology video it turned it into a meme.
Been watching you Driftor for about 7-8 year's, I'm 17 now.... I did also watch tmartn back then but that whole csgolotto definitely shunned me from him. I love your content man, it definitely doesn't get as much love as it used to. I'm glad I grew up watching your content, ideas, gameplay, and of course in depth series. Love ya man 😁
"Id rather be homeless" lmao yeah right brad
keep up all these videos Drift0r! I love these videos and you always have great quality vids
I’ll always support you Drift.
Oh man, Driftor throwback to the Horse Six Zero & Archnemesis06 Piratecast days, they were the reason I started listening to podcasts and ended up creating my own (now ended) your episode with them was great.
Interesting for this topic to come 2 years late
This may be one of the most rational gaming videos I’ve seen in a while and answered a long time question of mine while also staying true to what you thought was right when it came to your friend/beliefs by not joining the hate train at the time and I had always wondered why you never really made a vid on it til now. I used to love watching Tmartn cod vids and was bummed by the whole cs:go lotto fiasco, but since the dude probably paid a ton of money in fines (a fitting punishment for shady business practices with his site) and also will likely never return to yt it seems like he’s been punished enough imo
The defense can not be “Murder is worse”. Lol cmon man
Good video Drift. I hope you are enjoying this winter season, and that hair cut looks great on you. Take Care :)
Y’all still haven’t moved on?
Drifter always shares a good themes in his videos , he’s just an all around genuine guy, I’ve been subbed to him for years , back since he played battlefield 3 before he got married, he’s still the same guy.
I never really was into the whole Tmartin thing, or even had any understanding of it at all before this (yes I live under a rock), but it seems to me he got a lot more hate than he deserved. I mean, yes what he did was wrong, but nobody's perfect and its really easy to get self deluded. I guarentee half of the people criticizing him, have done worse things themselves. It kinda just looks like everyone's jumping on the "lets hate Tmartin" bandwagon.
Promoting gambling to children, nope. Never did something that shitty.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming I never said he didn't do anything wrong, in fact, I said he was in the wrong. Also, as stated in the video, children weren't his target demographics. I simply said that it seemed more was made out of this than should have been.
Tmartn is living in Bandwagon Hell with Nickelback.
I don’t think anyone really remembers this but tmartn’s buddy (Brock) said he was sponsored by csgolotto on his channel over and over than once it all happened all of those videos just disappeared....
If you gamble and go down bc of gambling it's your own fault. It's not the fault of the casino, not the fault of the website, not the fault of anyone else but your own self.
No duh.
@@Testiculosv2 people are blaming everyone but themselves for going broke bc of gambling, like, no you are the problem
@@the_vanisher21 The situation here with Tmartn isn't the same tho
@@xXBlackHawksXx1 No I get you, Trevor should've said from the start he owned the site and whatnot but I can't stand people claiming he's the reason they went broke and saying that he stole from kids. Everyone knows the risks and odds of gambling long before they start, and even of they don't, it's their responsibility to look it up and to not go into something blind.
Yes, Trevor made a mistake but he got (and gets for that matter) waaaay too much hate for what he actually did.
@Brandon Lanier Exactly
Been subbed for awhile but this is the first video thata popped up on my timeline in a long time. I've missed your content
This was an EXCELLENT video. You clearly told everyone that the FTC states that the person must state their sponsorship, clearly TMARTN didn’t do that, because he owned the website haha.
You really have a great ability to make a video like this without getting an awful like/dislike ratio
Lol how long ago was this? Let the man grow he knows he made a mistake.....Great video bro
It’s honestly kind of sad to me people care that much about this compared to other things people do and still get away with, it all just depends what gets blown up the most I guess
Syndicate is equally at fault as tmartn hes just better at pr.
yeah equally at fault and apologised but tmartin didnt he just blamed others
Very informing video. I hadn’t heard the situation explained that well until now.
this video contradicts your video on the Ratner Effect. People don't forget.
Right when you started explaining how your channel works I hitttttt that subscribe button
Yeah I dislike the guy but I’ll be damned if I don’t watch super cooper Sunday every week.
Khahari exactly, im all for SCS and the trev and chels cruise vlogs 🤟🏾
such a smooth integration of sponsorship while explaining what it is and why
Why yall still hating tmartn he is trying his best to Yt and past is past he dont make more csgo lotto again
Need more people like Drift0r in the world
It comes off sounding like you know he did something shady (the whole Found vs. Endorsement argument just shows that he knew what was happening and he decided to go ahead with it.) and you are trying to defend it because you are friends. You didnt stick your nose where it didnt belong, but when being in the public image the company you keep says a lot about you.
Tom syndicate is suppose to get the most hate.. Cos he also started it too so TMartin can't just get all the blame...
3 quarters of the people that said tmartn was wrong for doing CSGO lotto would do the same thing if they had the chance to make a lot of money
Lmfao 3/4 you're really reaching. On top to say they would do the same....nahhhhh
Citation needed.
The message here is clear: Forgiveness. Doesn’t mean you have to forgive everyone, but in the bigger scheme of life, what Trevor did pales in comparison to what atrocious things thousands of scumbags in the world do on a daily basis to other people. Great vid Drift👍🏻
This guy used to have 3m subs 4 years ago, he has like 3.5m now.
Edit: yeah this stuff about the xp bar was not right. Im still 100% sure that there was one pub video with the xp bar cut out, but it is in al the others so he is not trying to hide anything im sorry. I judged to quick and made a misconception.
Tmartns vlog and second channel and growing big
Herman I never edited the XP bar out? Lmao what??
I haven’t truly enjoyed COD pubs in years. At least not for more than a month or two. I played mainly GameBattles/private matches in MWR. I never made that a secret.
TmarTn Owh wow i didn’t expect you to respond to that, otherwise i would have watched my language,
- Stealing content, not really. You asked people for gameplay a lot because you barely played the game which is fair. Chaosxsilencer really stole gameplay once in bo3, he uploaded a random video with grip testing with some other dudes voice without giving a shoutout in the description whatsoever
- you travel a lot, i dont take that back
- It seems like im not entirely right, i see multiple videos with the xp bar included. I see a few without but those were recorded during dlc events. I could have sworn a MP5 gameplay without the xp bar in a pub match where i saw you level up to level 15 about 40/50 days after release. I cant find that gameplay anymore... it was on vacant. Im not crazy, it did exist. I got upset over it 2 years ago. It also seems that it was not fair to judge you on that one video as you show the xp bar in many more (still low level though, that was the actual problem, but at least you were not trying to hide it). So i apologize for my misconception and accusation.
- As a cod fanboy i didn’t like it when cod youtubers stopped playing cod. Without cod you wouldnt be where you are today. Although after recent releases of the series i understand how you can stop enjoying them, i got over it. But because drift0r uploaded this rant, i guess i felt the need to ‘express my feelings’ one more time.
Honestly you are(other channels)/were a great youtuber, i dislike how you kinda abandoned your main channel, yet you still upload good content (im not sure nowadays though im sorry, might check it out soon). It sucks that you lost interest in cod.
Drift0r you big heart gives me hope. You’re a good man and I appreciate that you are not afraid to show it.
Black ops 2 in Depth.
Integrity is paramount. It is often overlooked, until it's gone.
Damn, well looks like EA found their next executive lol
Except EA's CEO doesn't lick anyone's boots like this guy.
When I was younger under 18 I used to gamble on PokerStars and did well too. You can’t control foot traffic on a website no matter what you do
If Tmartn is the devil then what does that make Activi$ion ?? 🤔
I really struggle to feel for millionaires/billionaires , tried but it just fails.
I go off if u make ur bed then you must lie in it 💯 hopefully laws come in and kill these companies from inside out , games are now released half made and mediocre and thats a fact.
Tmartn is the devil yes.
Activision however, are *Leviathans* ! They're stronger than angels, way more evil, and feed off of humans. lol
Activision are Pillermen
a scummy company doesn't excuse a scummy person....
I gotta respect you for sticking with your friend, you're a good guy too Drif0r
So I don’t understand. Why all the criticism, if Tmartn supposedly just ran a fully legitimate CSGO gambling site which didn’t scam kids?? Why has he lost so many sponsors, why has he lost a lot of money? Something doesn’t add up with this story......
He rigged his own rolls to win big. So scamming kids into thinking it was easy. Enticing them to gamble..very very low.
I can’t get over how well spoken Drift0r is, I wish I had the same ability to speak and elaborate on things so well
was i living in a nutshell because i havent heared anything about why is he hated.
It was a few years ago. Just search for drama alert/scarce vids with tmartn and syndicate in the title
Tmartn channel May have died, but super cooper Sunday has been a staple of my sundays since he got that awesome doggo
Drift0r, don't become a TMartTn apologist. That creep deserves all the backlash and more. The FTC should've banned his channel and website...
your videos are funnier and more enjoyable now adays.... keep it up bro
"Found this website called..... CsGo LoTOTo"
"I'm sorry you guys didn't realize I owned the site" Worst apology ever, a backhanded apology, an apology that tries to shift the blame.
This was fantastic, you’re a great guy. Trevor is lucky to have you as a friend
Pretty pathetic reason for not saying anything at the time
Great video. I always enjoy your honesty and introspection.
The real question here is: Why would you be bringing this up anymore. Cmoon man 😔
@giovanni ibarra He's almost three years late, that's what is wrong with him bringing it up now.
@@captcorleone2606 No, he said it's cause people keep asking him why he plays with tmrtn
@@s1m700 I know what he said.
@@captcorleone2606 then is it not a relevant issue for him right now?
What are the *odds* ? I got a advertisement for a casino app in the middle of this video.
lol my man eight thoughts cost him 6 figures
Y'know Driftor I haven't played call of duty since black ops 3 but I stay subscribed because of how you are. You are a all around wholesome good dude and nowadays that is really rare I wish you the best of luck man I'll stay subscribed because I wanna see you do well, cheers man.