had a 7 plus and was good but around 1 in 6 photod blurry. Got pixel 3 and excellent but with average use battery runs out. Still have it and much better after updates. Had ordered a Nokia 8.1 and it finally arrived. Now to decide which to keep. Camera between pixel 3 and 8.1 hard to tell difference the 8.1 is that good. I find colours more accurate on the 8.1 and not oversharpened as can get on Pixel. I live by sea and the only time pixel is much better is maximum zoom on both to get ship on horizon. Pixel does excellent job and ship comes out good. Nokia 8.1 however is just unidentifiable blobs. To be honest how often would you try to take photo of ship or anything on horizon 3 to 10kilometers away. I really do love the 8.1 it is that good. Inside low light photos excellent and colour always good where pixel struggled to get correct colours at times. Both have excellent screens although I have always preferred lcd over oled. Both excellent visibility outside except in direct noon day sun and neither xcreen can be seen. Which one to keep well might have to be flip of coin as both so good
yeah, and that alone should show how well they have done with this device, and like you said, the colors are amazing with pictures on this device! if this had the 7 plus body, I would have maybe changed this for the note 9 I have, but just not the biggest fan of a glass back anymore haha, LOVED that texture on the 7 plus so much!
well after using for a while I am selling the Google Pixel 3 and keeping the Nokia 8.1. I love this phone. I use pixel night mode camera app. I put that on just after getting phone and it works flawlessly. Very quick to take photos and excellent quality.
I've basically downgraded after years going with Samsung Galaxy and paying over the odds on my monthly contract payment which was way over the top. This phone has cost me half the price per month, admittedly the screen isn't as good as a Samsung S8 but I've honestly not noticed that much.Also no Samsung bloatware which is a plus...stock android.This phone has been as fast as any Galaxy I've had.Im glad I changed to this phone.Great phone.
Why So Many People Talks About The Camera Not Being Good. There's Apps To Help Pictures With Different Filters. This Phone Has The BEST ANDROID ONE OS. This Phone Is a Kick-ass Phone In My Book.
Would you really pick the 7 plus over this one? That's a real option for me. But Snapdragon 660 vs 710 sounds like a step down, and since the phone is 9 months older, that's 9 months less of security updates.
for me yes i would pick the 7 over it, in normal day to day use you won't notice is, though the camera is an update the 7 plus is also impressive in that
Watching it on my 8.1 :D. I had decided on 4/64 config, but switched to 6/128 config at the last moment (don't know what came over me). There is some screen flickering issue when you switch between app during a call, but that seems like some software bug. All in all, dumping Moto for Nokia was one of my best decisions.
@@JermaineSmit It's not that bothering as it happens very rarely. I went on the Nokia forum to check for any solution, and this seems to be the problem across the entire range of Nokia mobiles since October last year. Also, there seems to be no solution provided by Nokia , which is weird.
Looks exactly like the 7.1 at first glance - I love the fact Nokia are back in the game, but they really need to put some more thought into their designs to stand out in this crowded market. Solid job dude 👌
yeah, in renders it looked at least on the front a bit different, but in real life.. just the fron doesn't look that good... back i am fine with in terms of layout, but yes it needs work, and thanks man! they have build and internals down though!
Was doubting between nokia 8.1 (can get it for 280euros now) and samsung a50 for about 307 euros, but this convinced me. Much prefer clean android as well.
i wish! for now I simply don't have to connections to get the phones, which means buying them, which atm wouldn't be the best investment. I did use the LG G7, LOVE the wide angle! (also review of that is online) in low light the nokia for me wins though, and in colors as well. BUT that wide angle is really nice to have!
@@gambit_-tc3hm Same hahahahaha, waiting for my boss to pay me and then I will! (he is freaking months behind sooo when that comes in I will straight away order it!)
Jermaine Awesome Video really enjoyed and absolutely agree I'm definitely not giving up on them yet and absolutely want to see them in the future as well.Thanks so much for sharing Deb 😉👍✌
If just putting IPS display and notch stuff aside this nokia 8.1 looks nice clean on overall stock android experience which anyone can enjoy with trusted brand. Nice review smit.
Agreed :) overall it is a fine device! it doesn't scream NOKIA as much as the 7 plus did, but you have to put that aside, and then wow, this is an amazing device for the price (apart from the freaking notch hahaha and bottom curve being more then the top part of the corners of the display haha)
I am also using Nokia 8.1. Can you share the battery backup and battery screen on time ? I am getting 5-6 hrs of screen on time and battery lasts a day. Is it reasonable ?
fingerprint on the back is a deal breaker, i just cant stand it there also when i have my phone in a car holder for google maps its a pain in the ass to unlock it
I got one of these a week ago, treated it really carefully since the case didn't arrive yet, still after only 1 week there is a huge scratch on the screen, it didn't fall once, and hasn't hit any sharp objects, also doesn't fall under warranty. Quite disappointed
@@Conceptcreator i have read that on mi a2 camera gets better with every update, it would be interesting to know if 8.1 is in same situation because both phones are android one :)
How long will it receive security updates, is it easy to replace the battery? These are very important concerns in 2019, yet they are rarely addressed in reviews. I was pretty annoyed when having to buy a new phone because motorola stopped providing security updates, even though my phone was still perfect...
for the battery, I mean replacement is not something a normal consumer does? For the security updates. if correct 3 years. Nokia has a pretty good track record in this so far
@@JermaineSmit Thanks for the info! Regarding battery replacement, it used to be quite normal to replace it yourself, until manufacturers made it harder and harder to do so. Making it hard to change the battery, or not providing security updates are easy ways to force consumers to buy new phones every two years, even if their old phones are still fine. Therefore buying a phone these days is about more than hardware, in my opinion durability (especially updates/upgrades) should be addressed in a proper review.
@@JermaineSmit thanks for the response, I am using Nokia 7 Plus and this is having charging port issue and now i come to know that this is a problem in all Nokia 7 plus devices. The company has provided free upgrade to nokia 8.1 for all 7 Plus users. Now my question is it worth it, as i extensively use the camera? Please help
And now you can get 8.1 for under 300 EUR in Europe. Just a catch - only the metallic gray model is that cheap. Other colors are about 50 EUR more. I guess, they made discounts because the metallic gray piled up in their stores :D Of course, you can get something more powerful for the same price, but not everything - good camera with OIS, NFC, gyro, clean-ish Android with guaranteed upgrades for a few years. However, I wish Nokia had put a physical LED for notifications in that big notch and also more durable materials would be appreciated (a friend had some chips on edges after mild use for 10 days). And stereo speakers should be easily implemented leveraging that big notch again...
I am a bit confused between Asus Zenfone 5z and 8.1,some images I have seen in clear bright day ( indian afternoon)having red coloured flowers or object blown out and even whites,at night too as you said the street lights ,neon signs are blown out,the AI keeps on fluctuating,not every time you can just stand and use pro mode to take photos,which one do you suggest 5z or 8.1,both have same sensor Sony imx 363 but post processing(on phone) wise which would be better,also 5z has sd845 does it affect the image quality?
OK so I haven't used all the phones so it is very hard for me to properly judge all of them. and of course there is a part of preference with it as well. But if I had to pick one I would go for the Nokia 7 plus. the build quality is far better then some other mid-range phones. It has a GOOD camera for the price. And the textured back is great! Also... no notch, and you are retaining the headphone jack. You could go for the Nokia 8.1 as well though, but for my personal preference I would pick the 7 plus. the Asus zenfone 5 does a decent job, but does lack in low light shots. And of course a notch
Else maybe look for a older hi-end phone, like the Samsung Galaxy s9(plus), LG G7 maybe though that does lack something (Have a review of that online as well) it also somewhat depends on your budget?
Nokia 6.1 user here. Nokia's designs probably won't appeal to young buyers looking for those flashy gradient color backs but Nokia is a mature brand and their phones look classy and European. Unfortunately they also are succumbing to the temptation of following the industry into stupid screen notch designs and 19:9 aspect ratios. Me, I'm loving my Nokia 6.1.
I also have a Nokia 6.1 and it is a great phone. I recently purchased the BLU VIVO XI+ and the BLU is faster than the 6.1 opening apps and websites. I use both and switch back and forth from time to time. Though I have been using the BLU much more.
I somewhat agree. The thing for me at the moment with some designs is that it is to much like others. The way the notch is shaped for instance and the curves giving on the corners with it. In terms of colors and what not i think they are doing fine. But the appeal the Nokia 7 Plus had is missing for me.
@@JermaineSmit well the thing is, all these phones are boring rectangles and there's only so much phone makers can do to distinguish their phones from the sea of other phones. Kinda like trying to make a bespoke suit that you wanna stand out from all the rest. Unless you make your suit outright gaudy or you're lucky to come up with something that really looks good that nobody's thought of, it's hard to distinguish your product. I have to say though, those Chinese brands like Oppo and Honor are really innovating with their rear panel designs, with those psychedelic colors and gradient hues. Gimmicky, yes, but at least their doing a great job. And some of those, like the Oppo F11 Pro, are really stunning in person.
Thing is though. i felt like the nokia 7 plus was the design that worked. That made it stand out. But the nokia 6.1 7.1 and 8.1 all have this same design as many other cheaper designs (BUT of course much better quality) And yeah Oppo is doing pretty well in terms of design
That was a great review! Also quick question, I knw Samsung s8 is two generation back phone but if I had to pick one between it and nokia 8.1 which should I go for? Both are 400€ atm. And the best between them with nokia 8 sirocco ? 😅
apil bista I‘d pick a Nokia regardless of the quality of the phones because Samsung is one of the least ethical brands and produce their devices very unsustainably. If you wanna have a look, rankabrand has a pdf ranking all major brands in terms of climate protection, greenwashing etc. Nokia and Apple are, following Fairphone, the „most ethical“ brands. At least, that made my decision easier, maybe it helps you as well :)
@@Keepcarbedandcarryon ahh thanks for honest answer. I do feel the same way, that's why I never went for Samsung phones. I went for high priced phones last 5 yr. Now just wanna settle with mid-range ph. can't spend lot every 10/12 months you knw 😅
I think what your saying is a very fair point. But with that being said apple is also one of those companies that simply is making their product in a way that you must get more of it. Like the removal of the headphone jack. And the limited software.
@@JermaineSmit I usually don't care abt headphone jack on phone. I used my phones like my laptop, e.x. study purpose, report writing, large apps and photography. that's why I spend on high-end phones before. Now, I want a mid-range ph with very good camera ( I travel a lot) , 4gb RAM atleast and long battery life for day to day activities without going for charger now and again. I would prefer better graphic than headphone jack on my set 😊 p.s. for the past 11months I'm using nokia 8 sirocco with cracked screen recently, and need to change the ph. It's actually a fine ph, good camera, no lag at all on any apps, and long battery life.
@@JermaineSmit S10 keeping a headphone jack is just love, should be reviewed and preferred on any advice ( S10 back can wirelessly charge wireless earphones?)
8.1 gives a tough competition to OnePlus 6t. Back camera just blows OnePlus 6t with much more details. And even in low light 8.1 just kills it. But front camera seems to capture a little cold pictures compared to OnePlus 6t. But! But! But! With gcam it blows OnePlus away. 8.1 is a bit slow compared OnePlus as 8.1 have 710 and OnePlus got 845 soc. Anyways you won't notice a thing in day to day life.
I honestly don't know because I haven't used the 6t xD But it truly is an impressive camera! and yeah you won't notice a big difference in day to day use, which most people do with having this cpu, works fine and fast enough :)
I had the 7 plus but it failed after 8 months so the company replaced it under warranty with the 8.1. TBH I preferred the 7 plus, it just felt so much better in the hand. The 8.1 feels big and clunky and is a terrible fingerprint magnet. The performance experience is about the same although the picture quality is better. When they said they were "upgrading" me for free I accepted happily thinking I was getting a better phone but now I wish I had insisted they repaired my old phone or sourced a new 7plus. I loved the look and feel of the 7plus and didn't see it as as cheap phone but not sure about this one.
Yeah, the design on this is just another generic-chinese-type design. Hence the awful useless notch and the glass sandwich design without basic stuff any REAL Nokia phone would have like wireless charging (seriously...this is something even mid-ranger Lumias had...and yet HMD fails time and again to include). But what completely kills these HMD phones is the crap version of Android they run. Having the phones on Android One immensely limits them. Google's crappy version of Android doesn't allow users to go around things like the "we want to blind you!" white backgrounds via a theme engine, it doesn't give users a one-handed mode for easier use, it doesn't give users control over the notification icons on top or even the notch, etc. I'm glad the camera on phone carrying the Nokia brand is improving. But these HMD phones are still a loooong way away from being real Nokias. And as such, this Nokia fan from the Old Guard will continue to keep away from the phones.
i can in part agree,android one is very limited, but sadly the current market is sooooooo focused on getting updates fast, and for that this is ideal. But agreed, having a own skin on top would have been nice. And yes for the price nokia hmd does reaaaally well with the camera
@@goanwave2824 I don't agree with that. For the price you get a lot of phone. Build quality that is solid, a GREAT camera, better then any I have used around this price. and it is fast.
mmm So if I have to choose a Nokia... The Nokia 7 plus is my favorite Nokia I have used so far! BUT in terms of android in general, You could look at the Samsung Galaxy s9 plus or the S10e, both solid options. LG also has some decent options, but design wise... it might not be there favorite with ugly notches
@@JermaineSmit agree with Samsung's been using a galaxy since the S3 (but a brief flirtation with HTC and one plus). Might go for this one as it has to be android one, decent camera and a premium feel.
overall it seems like a beast,just like my Nokia 7 Plus, but I don't like this extra boring Android One and I will switch back to LG that offers much more features and I hope that Nokia will bring OxygenOS-like approach so that they could have similar OS to OnePlus which would be close to srock but would have much more features and customization
Enjoyed this Concept! Nice phone, nice camera too. Looks like a real nice device. Quality video too 👌🏻
thank you lord crispy^^
@@JermaineSmit Hahaha...most welcome 😁
had a 7 plus and was good but around 1 in 6 photod blurry. Got pixel 3 and excellent but with average use battery runs out. Still have it and much better after updates. Had ordered a Nokia 8.1 and it finally arrived. Now to decide which to keep. Camera between pixel 3 and 8.1 hard to tell difference the 8.1 is that good. I find colours more accurate on the 8.1 and not oversharpened as can get on Pixel. I live by sea and the only time pixel is much better is maximum zoom on both to get ship on horizon. Pixel does excellent job and ship comes out good. Nokia 8.1 however is just unidentifiable blobs. To be honest how often would you try to take photo of ship or anything on horizon 3 to 10kilometers away. I really do love the 8.1 it is that good. Inside low light photos excellent and colour always good where pixel struggled to get correct colours at times. Both have excellent screens although I have always preferred lcd over oled. Both excellent visibility outside except in direct noon day sun and neither xcreen can be seen. Which one to keep well might have to be flip of coin as both so good
yeah, and that alone should show how well they have done with this device, and like you said, the colors are amazing with pictures on this device! if this had the 7 plus body, I would have maybe changed this for the note 9 I have, but just not the biggest fan of a glass back anymore haha, LOVED that texture on the 7 plus so much!
Maybe you can get Google camera for the Nokia
well after using for a while I am selling the Google Pixel 3 and keeping the Nokia 8.1. I love this phone. I use pixel night mode camera app. I put that on just after getting phone and it works flawlessly. Very quick to take photos and excellent quality.
Both have Sony IMX 363 imaging sensor, Try to install google pixel 3 camera APK and see what will you get from the Nokia 8.1 👍😃
Is 4gb ram variant of 8.1 is sufficient for a normal user??
Great video. I hope Nokia regains their former glory. I'd be willing to give up the front camer for an all display Nokia.
agreed! and thank you!
watching on my new Nokia 8.1 ❤️❤️❤️
does it stutter or lag
Same
how is it?
It is great
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I've basically downgraded after years going with Samsung Galaxy and paying over the odds on my monthly contract payment which was way over the top. This phone has cost me half the price per month, admittedly the screen isn't as good as a Samsung S8 but I've honestly not noticed that much.Also no Samsung bloatware which is a plus...stock android.This phone has been as fast as any Galaxy I've had.Im glad I changed to this phone.Great phone.
Nokia is the best
The Grandfather Is Really Back ! 👌
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@DANIEL CHUKWUKERE oh shut up
Losers
I need help friend
refurbished nokia 8.1
I'm Brazil, I can't
put NOTE, ta android 10
Why So Many People Talks About The Camera Not Being Good. There's Apps To Help Pictures With Different Filters. This Phone Has The BEST ANDROID ONE OS. This Phone Is a Kick-ass Phone In My Book.
There are? I think the camera is great :)
Yaaaaaasssss!!! Finally, my favourite type of video!!!
hehehe thank you :D:D:D
Would you really pick the 7 plus over this one? That's a real option for me. But Snapdragon 660 vs 710 sounds like a step down, and since the phone is 9 months older, that's 9 months less of security updates.
for me yes i would pick the 7 over it, in normal day to day use you won't notice is, though the camera is an update the 7 plus is also impressive in that
Nokia phones get monthly security updates too
One of the best phone from Nokia ❤️
well nokia is selling their nokia 8 2017 here for 220usd same price of Nokia 7 plus here in Philippines....too bad they didn't bring the 8.1 here
Watching it on my 8.1 :D. I had decided on 4/64 config, but switched to 6/128 config at the last moment (don't know what came over me). There is some screen flickering issue when you switch between app during a call, but that seems like some software bug. All in all, dumping Moto for Nokia was one of my best decisions.
oh that is weird that you got that flickering, is it bothering? and enjoy your new phone man!
@@JermaineSmit It's not that bothering as it happens very rarely. I went on the Nokia forum to check for any solution, and this seems to be the problem across the entire range of Nokia mobiles since October last year. Also, there seems to be no solution provided by Nokia , which is weird.
@@KedarPadalkar that is so weird!!!! I honestly never had any flicker on it, but damn that is weird! Happy then that it happens rarely :O
i had same issue on my 7.1 but they kicked update so fast to deal with that problem after update i didnt have any problems
Got it yesterday. I just loved it😍
ooooeeeh nice!!! enjoy it!!!
@@JermaineSmit By the way your content is just amazing. I subscribed😉
@@namansaluja6580 that you! very much appreciated!
How's the sound quality when recording in a loud environment like a music concert
My king of Photography 😊🥰😍😊
Nokia 8.1 looks very professional 😍
Looks exactly like the 7.1 at first glance - I love the fact Nokia are back in the game, but they really need to put some more thought into their designs to stand out in this crowded market.
Solid job dude 👌
yeah, in renders it looked at least on the front a bit different, but in real life.. just the fron doesn't look that good... back i am fine with in terms of layout, but yes it needs work, and thanks man!
they have build and internals down though!
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Was doubting between nokia 8.1 (can get it for 280euros now) and samsung a50 for about 307 euros, but this convinced me. Much prefer clean android as well.
I'M using Nokia 8.1
does it stutter or lag?
@@leondaz i dont think because nokia 8.1 has a snapdragon 710 and 4 gb of ram
How it's your mobile...?.I wants to buy Nokia 8.1,please tell me how it's working.
When did Doctor Evil start doing phone reviews? Joking of course, a very good review. Thank you for the time and effort.
whuahahaha why doctor evil:P? and thank you man appreciate you watching! and of course seeing the time I put into it hehe
can you compare Nokia 8.1 camera LG V30, LG G7
all of them in same price range
i wish! for now I simply don't have to connections to get the phones, which means buying them, which atm wouldn't be the best investment. I did use the LG G7, LOVE the wide angle! (also review of that is online) in low light the nokia for me wins though, and in colors as well. BUT that wide angle is really nice to have!
Ur reviews are great as well!
thanks!
The mahogany version looks divine and is built like a pebble
when are you going to review the nokia 9 pureview?. would really like to see the camera at work
I wish soon! I don't have any contacts with Nokia. So I sadly have to wait :(
@@JermaineSmit Great! i hope you can have your hands on it soon
@@gambit_-tc3hm Same hahahahaha, waiting for my boss to pay me and then I will! (he is freaking months behind sooo when that comes in I will straight away order it!)
I'm the 1000th liker
Please do share the link to full camera review like you said,thanks
oeps:P ruclips.net/video/QRxQ3Ujq6Sk/видео.html
Jermaine Awesome Video really enjoyed and absolutely agree I'm definitely not giving up on them yet and absolutely want to see them in the future as well.Thanks so much for sharing Deb 😉👍✌
same, we shall see! could be good for the competition!
nice review... spoiled my background music.
If just putting IPS display and notch stuff aside this nokia 8.1 looks nice clean on overall stock android experience which anyone can enjoy with trusted brand.
Nice review smit.
Agreed :) overall it is a fine device! it doesn't scream NOKIA as much as the 7 plus did, but you have to put that aside, and then wow, this is an amazing device for the price (apart from the freaking notch hahaha and bottom curve being more then the top part of the corners of the display haha)
Did you know it has HDR 10
It's hdr 10
Is it still a great pick in October 2019 ?
yes ;)
Bottom senzor is main senzor ;)
oeps (A) did that visually wrong :P
What do you think Xperia 10 plus screen compared to this one??
Watching on my 8.1
nice! enjoying it?
Same here
I am also using Nokia 8.1. Can you share the battery backup and battery screen on time ? I am getting 5-6 hrs of screen on time and battery lasts a day. Is it reasonable ?
@@roshanchawla4217 yeah I got about the same which is stated in the review, with sometimes hitting 7 hours
@@roshanchawla4217 little longer than that
Great review 👍😊
Thank you!!!
fingerprint on the back is a deal breaker, i just cant stand it there also when i have my phone in a car holder for google maps its a pain in the ass to unlock it
From my 1 day experience the camera lens are scratching very easy. I think they are made from plastic.
I got one of these a week ago, treated it really carefully since the case didn't arrive yet, still after only 1 week there is a huge scratch on the screen, it didn't fall once, and hasn't hit any sharp objects, also doesn't fall under warranty. Quite disappointed
that is really unlucky man :(
Can you compare camera quality with xiaomi mi a2?
sadly atm U cannot keep devices for a longer time, so sadly I cannot. Sorry
@@Conceptcreator i have read that on mi a2 camera gets better with every update, it would be interesting to know if 8.1 is in same situation because both phones are android one :)
How is the battery?
It has good battery life, nothing incredible though
How long will it receive security updates, is it easy to replace the battery? These are very important concerns in 2019, yet they are rarely addressed in reviews. I was pretty annoyed when having to buy a new phone because motorola stopped providing security updates, even though my phone was still perfect...
for the battery, I mean replacement is not something a normal consumer does?
For the security updates. if correct 3 years. Nokia has a pretty good track record in this so far
@@JermaineSmit Thanks for the info! Regarding battery replacement, it used to be quite normal to replace it yourself, until manufacturers made it harder and harder to do so. Making it hard to change the battery, or not providing security updates are easy ways to force consumers to buy new phones every two years, even if their old phones are still fine. Therefore buying a phone these days is about more than hardware, in my opinion durability (especially updates/upgrades) should be addressed in a proper review.
Personal i like Nokia 8.1, Xiaomi redmi note 7 pro, Moto G7 plus and Xiaomi mi 9 SE and mi 8lite.
is this worth to buy instead of 7.1? 7.1 is simmilar but half the price
no there are some improvements to this compared to the 7.1 but if you doubt about this or the 7.1, get the nokia 7 plus.
In camera department which would u prefer, Nokia 7 Plus or Nokia 8.1? And having no gorilla glass would u still say this is durable device?
In terms of camera the Nokia 8.1 is better, but in terms of use and feel of durability and design. Nokia 7 plus all the way
@@JermaineSmit thanks for the response, I am using Nokia 7 Plus and this is having charging port issue and now i come to know that this is a problem in all Nokia 7 plus devices. The company has provided free upgrade to nokia 8.1 for all 7 Plus users. Now my question is it worth it, as i extensively use the camera? Please help
Oh man that sucks that that device has that :O but good they have provided that!and yeah the camera for this price is good :)
Thanks for the review
thanks for watching!
How can I install Google p3 camera apk with proper working on Nokia 8.1?
@Uchiha Madara AI Imaging, how? Can you guide me plz
quality video my friend!
Thank you so much!!!
Nokia 8.1 or Motorola One Vision? And why?
I honestly haven't used the Motorola one vision... So hard to tell...
And now you can get 8.1 for under 300 EUR in Europe. Just a catch - only the metallic gray model is that cheap. Other colors are about 50 EUR more. I guess, they made discounts because the metallic gray piled up in their stores :D
Of course, you can get something more powerful for the same price, but not everything - good camera with OIS, NFC, gyro, clean-ish Android with guaranteed upgrades for a few years. However, I wish Nokia had put a physical LED for notifications in that big notch and also more durable materials would be appreciated (a friend had some chips on edges after mild use for 10 days). And stereo speakers should be easily implemented leveraging that big notch again...
I am a bit confused between Asus Zenfone 5z and 8.1,some images I have seen in clear bright day ( indian afternoon)having red coloured flowers or object blown out and even whites,at night too as you said the street lights ,neon signs are blown out,the AI keeps on fluctuating,not every time you can just stand and use pro mode to take photos,which one do you suggest 5z or 8.1,both have same sensor Sony imx 363 but post processing(on phone) wise which would be better,also 5z has sd845 does it affect the image quality?
5z is a better phone. You need manual mode to get good results on the 5z though.
That I can do with 8.1 too
I am just asking specifically for cameras I know Asus has 845 so it will be better performance wise
Regarding the midrange sector, what do you think is the best phone until now in 2019, in terms of camera and owerall?
OK so I haven't used all the phones so it is very hard for me to properly judge all of them.
and of course there is a part of preference with it as well.
But if I had to pick one I would go for the Nokia 7 plus. the build quality is far better then some other mid-range phones. It has a GOOD camera for the price.
And the textured back is great!
Also... no notch, and you are retaining the headphone jack.
You could go for the Nokia 8.1 as well though, but for my personal preference I would pick the 7 plus.
the Asus zenfone 5 does a decent job, but does lack in low light shots.
And of course a notch
Else maybe look for a older hi-end phone, like the Samsung Galaxy s9(plus), LG G7 maybe though that does lack something (Have a review of that online as well) it also somewhat depends on your budget?
Just get Microsoft launcher
I love that Nokia 8.1 but it's little bit expensive in India start at ₹26,000 and ₹30,000
Thats how it started in my country but now its like 125$ less
Have you checked the links below (affiliate) they might be better priced for you?
@@JermaineSmit Sir yes Nokia has reduce the price of Nokia 8.1 and Nokia 7.1
Nice stonecoal English!
that's just bullshit. My English is perfectly fine, while I have an accent because I am dutch. it is easy to understand and proper enough.
@@JermaineSmit true your English is fine. Just talking about the accent.
Nokia 6.1 user here. Nokia's designs probably won't appeal to young buyers looking for those flashy gradient color backs but Nokia is a mature brand and their phones look classy and European. Unfortunately they also are succumbing to the temptation of following the industry into stupid screen notch designs and 19:9 aspect ratios. Me, I'm loving my Nokia 6.1.
I also have a Nokia 6.1 and it is a great phone. I recently purchased the BLU VIVO XI+ and the BLU is faster than the 6.1 opening apps and websites. I use both and switch back and forth from time to time. Though I have been using the BLU much more.
I somewhat agree. The thing for me at the moment with some designs is that it is to much like others. The way the notch is shaped for instance and the curves giving on the corners with it.
In terms of colors and what not i think they are doing fine. But the appeal the Nokia 7 Plus had is missing for me.
@@JermaineSmit well the thing is, all these phones are boring rectangles and there's only so much phone makers can do to distinguish their phones from the sea of other phones. Kinda like trying to make a bespoke suit that you wanna stand out from all the rest. Unless you make your suit outright gaudy or you're lucky to come up with something that really looks good that nobody's thought of, it's hard to distinguish your product. I have to say though, those Chinese brands like Oppo and Honor are really innovating with their rear panel designs, with those psychedelic colors and gradient hues. Gimmicky, yes, but at least their doing a great job. And some of those, like the Oppo F11 Pro, are really stunning in person.
Thing is though. i felt like the nokia 7 plus was the design that worked. That made it stand out. But the nokia 6.1 7.1 and 8.1 all have this same design as many other cheaper designs (BUT of course much better quality)
And yeah Oppo is doing pretty well in terms of design
What about the charging port issue plaguing the Nokia 7 plus ? No mention of it as a con ?
Nice review. But i must say in more exited for Galaxy S10E than Nokia 8.1. I have wait a long time to get a flat screen on a Galaxy S phone again 😀
whuahahaha that I can understand, though that is of course priced higher hehehe
Jermaine Smit Yes, but better specs and better size. 😊 but i must se the S10E in my hand before i make a Choice
Agreed :)
Whats that music
In low light the cam is average
for the price it preforms above those I have used around this price though :) but yes in terms of overall. Average :)
Watching on my 8.1❤️
Bhai currently kaisa chl rha h can I buy this now...plz reply
If Nokia 7.1 cost $349, how much does Nokia 8.1 cost?
Depends where you are from, but around 399
@@JermaineSmit ooooof, XD I can't find it on Amazon US, and I only have $35 on my piggy bank XD
yeah then you come up a bit short^^
That was a great review!
Also quick question, I knw Samsung s8 is two generation back phone but if I had to pick one between it and nokia 8.1 which should I go for? Both are 400€ atm.
And the best between them with nokia 8 sirocco ? 😅
apil bista I‘d pick a Nokia regardless of the quality of the phones because Samsung is one of the least ethical brands and produce their devices very unsustainably. If you wanna have a look, rankabrand has a pdf ranking all major brands in terms of climate protection, greenwashing etc. Nokia and Apple are, following Fairphone, the „most ethical“ brands. At least, that made my decision easier, maybe it helps you as well :)
@@Keepcarbedandcarryon ahh thanks for honest answer. I do feel the same way, that's why I never went for Samsung phones.
I went for high priced phones last 5 yr. Now just wanna settle with mid-range ph. can't spend lot every 10/12 months you knw 😅
I think what your saying is a very fair point. But with that being said apple is also one of those companies that simply is making their product in a way that you must get more of it. Like the removal of the headphone jack. And the limited software.
Ok so what do you find the most important part about your phone? what matters a lot to you?
(p.s do not go for the 8 sirocco honestly)
@@JermaineSmit I usually don't care abt headphone jack on phone. I used my phones like my laptop, e.x. study purpose, report writing, large apps and photography. that's why I spend on high-end phones before. Now, I want a mid-range ph with very good camera ( I travel a lot) , 4gb RAM atleast and long battery life for day to day activities without going for charger now and again. I would prefer better graphic than headphone jack on my set 😊
p.s. for the past 11months I'm using nokia 8 sirocco with cracked screen recently, and need to change the ph. It's actually a fine ph, good camera, no lag at all on any apps, and long battery life.
It has notched?
yes, it does have a notch ;)
Hmm Nokia 9 going to amaze everyone in camera aspect.
Well Video is 🔥🔥
Design wise Nokia seems not bad
hopefully! sadly no headphone jack. that just sucks:( but will probably get it to review if i don't get s10 lol
@@JermaineSmit S10 keeping a headphone jack is just love, should be reviewed and preferred on any advice ( S10 back can wirelessly charge wireless earphones?)
About reviewing that, not sure depends a but on my financial situation, I do not get send stuff sadly hahaha
that's truly bad but u said companies r now approaching u so expecting more reviews from ur side
camera comparison between nokia 8.1 vs one plus 6t
Sadly I do not own a one plus 6t, I work on a budget hahaha
8.1 gives a tough competition to OnePlus 6t. Back camera just blows OnePlus 6t with much more details. And even in low light 8.1 just kills it. But front camera seems to capture a little cold pictures compared to OnePlus 6t. But! But! But! With gcam it blows OnePlus away. 8.1 is a bit slow compared OnePlus as 8.1 have 710 and OnePlus got 845 soc. Anyways you won't notice a thing in day to day life.
I honestly don't know because I haven't used the 6t xD But it truly is an impressive camera! and yeah you won't notice a big difference in day to day use, which most people do with having this cpu, works fine and fast enough :)
Nokia win camera vs 6t
Vs lg g7 thinq?
mmmm in terms of raw power lg should be on top, but i prefer the nokia camera
U sound Dutch
Dat noemen ze Denglisch. Dat is Engels met een Nederlands accent.😁
I had the 7 plus but it failed after 8 months so the company replaced it under warranty with the 8.1. TBH I preferred the 7 plus, it just felt so much better in the hand. The 8.1 feels big and clunky and is a terrible fingerprint magnet. The performance experience is about the same although the picture quality is better. When they said they were "upgrading" me for free I accepted happily thinking I was getting a better phone but now I wish I had insisted they repaired my old phone or sourced a new 7plus. I loved the look and feel of the 7plus and didn't see it as as cheap phone but not sure about this one.
Agreeing fully with that! I LOVED that nokia 7 plus! and I would pick that over the nokia 8.1
Same here man, I being replaced my 7plus with 8. 1 tmr... does is worth it....?
Nice review.
thank you!
@@Conceptcreator you've earned a subscriber sir 😊
Which is better this or galaxy A50 ??
I honestly don't know. the A50 isn't sold here :(
@@JermaineSmit in terms of specs at least
@@ahmadmounier well specs are only a part of the story so I never fully look at that as an answer.
@@JermaineSmit ok hope you can get it soon and make a comparison
This . A50 sucks
Specs wise, besides the processor, my 7plus is still better
Yeah, the design on this is just another generic-chinese-type design. Hence the awful useless notch and the glass sandwich design without basic stuff any REAL Nokia phone would have like wireless charging (seriously...this is something even mid-ranger Lumias had...and yet HMD fails time and again to include).
But what completely kills these HMD phones is the crap version of Android they run. Having the phones on Android One immensely limits them. Google's crappy version of Android doesn't allow users to go around things like the "we want to blind you!" white backgrounds via a theme engine, it doesn't give users a one-handed mode for easier use, it doesn't give users control over the notification icons on top or even the notch, etc.
I'm glad the camera on phone carrying the Nokia brand is improving. But these HMD phones are still a loooong way away from being real Nokias. And as such, this Nokia fan from the Old Guard will continue to keep away from the phones.
i can in part agree,android one is very limited, but sadly the current market is sooooooo focused on getting updates fast, and for that this is ideal. But agreed, having a own skin on top would have been nice. And yes for the price nokia hmd does reaaaally well with the camera
@@Conceptcreator that was me:p
Pricing they need to improve a lot I mean there are no much competitive features as such so.. They need to price their devices prply
@@goanwave2824 I don't agree with that. For the price you get a lot of phone. Build quality that is solid, a GREAT camera, better then any I have used around this price. and it is fast.
@@JermaineSmit no sir I'm talking of Indian pricing when compared to Chinese price it's 10 thousand bucks more
Any iPhone converts used this ? I'm looking to get my wife away from apple and onto an android one but can't decide which to go for.
mmmm what iPhone does she have at the moment :)
@@JermaineSmit 7 I think
mmm So if I have to choose a Nokia... The Nokia 7 plus is my favorite Nokia I have used so far!
BUT in terms of android in general, You could look at the Samsung Galaxy s9 plus or the S10e, both solid options.
LG also has some decent options, but design wise... it might not be there favorite with ugly notches
@@JermaineSmit agree with Samsung's been using a galaxy since the S3 (but a brief flirtation with HTC and one plus). Might go for this one as it has to be android one, decent camera and a premium feel.
overall it seems like a beast,just like my Nokia 7 Plus, but I don't like this extra boring Android One and I will switch back to LG that offers much more features and I hope that Nokia will bring OxygenOS-like approach so that they could have similar OS to OnePlus which would be close to srock but would have much more features and customization
Arnhem
jep^^