I am very pleased to present the pilot episode for the new Moments series! These will attempt to provide a more bit size view of history from a much wider and less traditional scope than is common. For instance the next episode will be looking at the serial killers of the ancient past. The narration was done by Officially Devin (ruclips.net/user/OfficiallyDevin) and I had assistance with the art from T. Hopwood. With this new series I will be better able to leverage outside help to reduce my workload. This will allow me to put out historical videos more frequently and get back to pending series like the Siege of Jerusalem or the Evolution of the Roman Legions. Again thank you all for your support. As always, feedback is very much welcome!
This really is an original idea, it will bring some pleasant diversity to your videos and the topics studied! Great art and voice acting, kudos to everyone who worked on it.
BTW i really appreciate how you guys dont fill in the videos with number counting cards and instead put the numbers in the top corner. I really appreciate that, keeps the flow and makes the video non-annoying
Glad you appreciated the little touch, I really wanted to focus more placing the quotes together in a way that drives a narrative than an arbitrary list based on "epicness"
It’s funny because something that has a ton of writing and records is barely remembered, but the Spartans kept little to know records and they are remembered through history.
i think they would have respected Bruce Lee if they ever met him. given his one single quote "I fear not the man who's practiced 10,000 kicks, but i fear the man who's practiced one kick 10,000 times."
People try to discount them but the fact is that thy are the epitome of masculinity. Only for gynocentric beta males do men find satisfaction in their defeat.
Actually no. Sparta was ruled by men. Women were allowed to speak but not vote. Womendid even get to decide what happened to their boys at age 6 they were sent of for war training.
My favorite Laconic remark was made by a Spartan general after the battle of Salamis in 480 BC. The Greeks had captured the Persian general's camp, and seeing all riches in gold, silver, and silks that their adversary had brought with him, was heard to remark: "See what fools these were, who live like this, yet came to rob us of our poverty." Only time I've ever agreed with a Spartan.
@uncletigger you realize that modern concepts of race and national identity did not exist during their time, right? Back in the days before the modern race based system you were simply identified with whatever region you were from and not your skin color. In many ancient civilizations, individuals with widely varying physical appearances became full members of a society by growing up within that society or by adopting that society's cultural norms. Classical civilizations such as Rome and China tended to invest the most importance in familial or tribal affiliation than in an individual's physical "appearance". Modern concepts of race and nationalism do not apply to pre colonial era societies as those are heavily influenced by modern ideas of race and nation states. A Spartan would not have considered some Norse barbarian to be the same race as themselves and felt no nationalism toward Greece as a whole.
That's not badass... Sounds cool, but they knew that if he went they were dead. They were eventually defeated and occupied by some random macedonian during Alexander reign, for trying to attack while the king was away laying waste to Persia while massively outnumbered and far from home. Both Phillip and Alexander each were WAY more badass and accomplished than anyone that was ever born in Sparta in it's long history of more bark than bite, even if they way of life and culture was indeed based on war.
maybe to you but to a spartan death on the battlefield was the only way to live. I like it personally i would rather die standing fighting to my last breath rather than kneeling in slavery.
@@HenriqueErzinger After the Peloponisian war Sparta lost many soldiers and had many inside problems. The rest greeks feared that they will become like the Athenians and opress them, so they made them have smaller army and most of it to become mercenerys. That was the dawnfall of sparta. If Sparta was at its glory im not so sure Macedonians would be able to beat them.
In France, we have "Immortals", a group of useless elder people who discuss the evolution of language. yes they die a lot, but every time they get replaced and there are always 40 of them, thus the name, immortals. Same idea goes for the Persian ones. Immortals because their number was always the same. Just sayin'
"Speaking is the most important skill man can acquire, there is no need for warriors in times of peace Spartan King". Spartan King: "And when you are done talking, you are worthless."
I remember a Roman General laying siege to a city in Spain. The Spanish boasted "we have enough food in the city to last us ten years!" to which the Roman replied "then we'll take your city in the eleventh!" Such was the determination of the Romans that the Spanish commander surrendered the city immediately. Edit: to all the people saying a)Spain did not exist at the time or b) it was Etruscan or Gallic city that the Romans besieged, you are probably right as it's been at least 15 years since I read this stuff and I may have misremembered bits of the story. _That said y'all missed the point I was trying to make by getting all hung up on details. The Romans were bloody determined even in the teeth of severe adversity_
A little known Spartan jail warden named William Corganus once said to a Persian captive who was issuing death threats: "Despite all your rage you are still just a rat in a cage."
Some important knowledge to understand "with it or on it": Shields were heavy back then. If you wanted to flee from combat, you had to drop your shield. Men who dropped their shields and ran were branded as "Ρίψασπις, Ripsaspis", which means "shield dropper". Also, dead soldiers were carried back to their family on their shields, as a ritual.
Macedonians and Spartans had Doric ties while Athens had Aetolian and rest from Africa(Egypt,Ethiopia) and Middle east (Anatolia,Lebanon,Armenia)Ionian.
@Calamity yap...In the early days, many Greeks were pirates, especially Eobeans who pirated in the eastern Mediterranean. The pirates set up new bases of operation in places like Cilicia, etc. The Egyptians and other victims recognised their fighting skill and hired them as mercenaries. Those mercenaries settled in some of those places, like Egypt. Colonization became a thing for Greeks to solve overpopulation, relocating outcasts, criminals or refugees.
That's part of it, but it's more likely that they didn't want to divide their attention or strength away from the Persians. I have no doubt that the Macedonians would have beaten the Spartans, who at that point were a shadow of their former glory anyway, but it would have cost them, it would have further alienated them from the Greeks, it might have inspired rebellion in other city-states, it would have taken more effort to subdue the Spartans than just ignoring them, and the fact that ancient battles were always risky and even a small loss would have tarnished their reputation.
It’s not propaganda. Babylon, Persian Empire, etc. spoke very highly of Sparta and Spartans alike. When your enemies speak and give high praise, it’s not longer “Propaganda”
@@Ilamarea praising your enemy works as a propaganda only when you win. But when you lose the usual propaganda is that your enemy does not win by strength but by luck or cheating. So in the context of persia, if they want to produce propaganda - it would be to discredit Spartans. If they praise spartans, then persians are simply being a good loser. Of course they dont actually lose to sparta but they dont conquer sparta either.
Spartans were always provoking a fight with their intelligent choice of words, this shows the highest confidence in one's ability to fight and their commitment to that fighting lifestyle . It also show's how educated they were, i personally think they were the smartest of all the world at this point in time and even up to date now. In those times the whole world was in their own different wars and sparta chose not to be a victim to all the greek states' policies and sanctions. You have to become the fiercest warriors in all of greece (and the world) to tell the other countries " you can't tell us what to do, but you can try to make us if you dare", in politics and diplomacy.
I can understand but not speak Ancient Greek and also understand most dialects like Cypriot Greek and Cretan. The last remaining true, unbiased carriers of Spartan blood, the Maniots, of whom I am part of, speak with few Ancient Greek words alongside Modern Greek.
03:35 That’s not what it means, it basically means come back with the shield in your hands, Referring to you staying alive, or come back dead on your shield carried by your allies.
Thank you, someone, who knows honestly so many people are saying that it meant something completely different last I checked people we're very literal back then because life was so hard and rough plus the Spartans never surrendered or retreated
The story of the Spartans responding "αίκα" (if) to Philip of Macedon stuck with me so much that I've used to steady myself in front of any challenge or doubt I've seen in my life. I had it tattooed on my arm this past summer and now it's a part of who I am.
During Peloponnesian war, after the Spartan General submitted Athens he send a Laconic Message to Spartan Ephores: "Athens Defeated", the reply from Sparta was also Laconic: "Good"!!
If anything they were a weapon Pankration was not an easy sport Especially when it had a rule for “no Spartans allowed in the Olympic Games” because these guys fought and trained with eye gouging/cheap shots as the norm
My favourite isn't so epic but really shows the whole attitude of Spartans. After General Brasidas' death at the Battle of Amphipolis (which was the battle that saw Spartan victory over Athens and the death of Kleon, Pericles' successor), the news was brought back to Sparta. Brasidas' mother, Argileonis was told of how brave her son was and how there was no better than he to which she replied "Say not so strangers; Brasidas was noble and brave, but Sparta has many better men than he". Should note that Brasidas had been praised during the war for being an excellent strategist, and a man of great virtue. Thucydides even noted that Brasidas truly held to the Spartan ideals and was truly a great man. All that, and still his mom was like "eh could have been better". Spartans always have room for improvement I guess.
Forgot the best one about Brasidas I am a fake fan oof. At the Battle of Pylos, Brasidas knew that to get past the barricade Demosthenes has constructed around the shores, they'd have to ram it. When questioned on it and told the damage it could cause, he replied with "It's only a few planks". I love Assassin's Creed Odyssey, but they really did my boy Brasidas dirty. He should of had way more action scenes and been allowed to spit out more speeches. He was considered to have been very eloquent. Someone once put it that he was the most Athenian of the Spartans while also being extremely Spartan.
Actually at macedonian 🇬🇷 town Amphipolis battle 422BC: Spartan Vrasidas with Macedonian Perdikkas Vs Athenian Kleon Dorian Greeks (Macedonians 🇬🇷 Spartans) won
During their celebrations, there were 3 kind of dances. - Dances for old men. They were starting the dance while chanting "We once were young and strong" - Dances for for middle age men. They would sing "We are the strong ones. Watch and learn" - Dances for young ones. The would start the dance yelling "We will be better than you all"
My favorite is the soldier who said “oh that’s good, it’s hot out and we would like to fight in the shade” there is like a billion different records but you get the gist
For some insane reason I'm only getting a 39 second video. Not that it only will load the first 39 seconds, but that the whole video is listed at 39 seconds. Anyone have an idea as to what is causing this?
with the phrase "with it or on it" they referred to a fighter's shield which basically meant either they came home with their shields or on it (spartan tradition to carry their dead on their shields)
A Spartan commander inspects his troops. He walks to the first Spartan soldier, hits him in the face and asks: 'Did that hurt?' The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!' The commander asks: 'Why not?' The Spartan soldier replies: 'Because I am a Spartan!' The commander nods in approval and continues. He walks a few paces down the line, then he suddenly turns and hits a Spartan soldier in the guts. Then he asks the Spartan soldier: 'Did that hurt?' The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!' The commander asks: 'Why not?' The Spartan soldier replies: 'Because I am a Spartan!' Again the commander nods in approval. Then he looks down the line to find something extrordinary. A bulge sticking out of the loin cloth of one of the Spartans in the line. The commander smiles to himself and walks over. When reaching the Spartan soldier with the bulge, he quickly bends, picks up a thick branch and hits the Spartan soldier in the bulge with the branch then turns to the Spartan soldier and asks: 'Did that hurt?' The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!' The commander asks: 'Why not?' The Spartan soldier replies: "Because it belongs to the dude behind me!"
Actually it is "Veni, vidi, vici" which means "came, saw, won". It was attributed to Julius Caesar, but more than likely it was the invention of a scholar who wrote about him. There wasn't really a trend to bring chroniclers in battle, so the ones that did write the history did so from second hand accounts and embellished stories, which they then proceeded to embellish themselves.
Iphricrates had the Spartans' number and used light troops to do it, pointing the way to success later exploited by Phillip II of Macedon and his better known son. The son of a shoemaker, Iphicrates designed special boots for light troops that were used for several hundred years, being particularly popular with Roman officers.
This one you may not know.. (an Athenian maid during the Peloponnese war) "We knew nothing about them, you only met them on the battlefield and those who did didn't come back to tell us about them.."
3:35 Narrator could have mentioned that coming home “with it or on it” refers to the warrior’s shield. With it (victorious) or (being carried) on it (dead).
Philip also sent another message:"Would you like me to enter your lands as a friend or foe?" The spartans answered another one word response:"Neither."
JG_BotYT actually, the macedonians were superior in military tech, and would have won. I guess phillip respected their ballsiness so much that he didnt invade them
Another "Laconism" I've heard of is Sparta's response to an extremely long-winded, but beautifully phrased, Athenian proposal of alliance. The reply was: "No".
Or another time when a village was asking for more rations of wheat and gave a long winded proposal for why. By the time they finished the Spartans listening had forgotten most of their points and so denied them food. Later the same village tried again and simply said "We need food". The Spartans replied that they didn't even need the first two words, and sent them enough food for winter
They could also sleep with any man they wanted, even after marriage, if the husban was away (which generally he was) and if it's purpouse was to do it absolutely unprotected in the hopes of concieving a child.
Women in Sparta get married at the age of 18_19 . In the rest of Greece the age was 12_14 . Also they could have property speak in public and had same education as men. When king Pyros of Epirus attack Sparta (at that time Spartas glory had long gone) he failed to conquer them even wasn't any fortifications and both man and women fight(about 4000 in total). Problem with Sparta is that society didn't evolve during Classical age and remain on the Archaic age status.
My favourite: An old man went to the Olympics and begged the Athenians for a seat but no one moved. He then went to the Thracians, then the Corinthians, always ignored. When he approached the Spartans, they all rose and watched the game standing, the old man being the only one seated. After the game, one Spartan said: "Every Greek knows what's right, only the Spartans do it"
@@dafi0 Romania was invaded since the fall of roman empire by tartars, huns, mongols etc, eastern europe is completely mixed with the people of the east, and no they are not beasts.
Yeah I think the actual quote is a lot shorter. I think more like _"not how many, but where"_ (4 short words in Greek) What Bantak Kor wrote sounds more like how those idle-talking Athenian babblers would have phrased it. LOL
I realised that. But as I said, I can't read Greek, therefore I could only quote as I found it in English, but it's good that a more accurate translation is provided (and a Greek version, but most non-greeks won't be able to read it). :)
One of my favourites: A young Spartan warrior complains that his sword (encheiridion) is too short to reach his enemies. His mother simply says: "Then add a step to it."
innosanto I remember a conversation another greek had with a spartan. The greek asked why spartan swords were so short. The spartan replied “It’s long enough to reach your heart.”
@@innosanto they were fighting mostly on phalanx formation ( contraty to what hollywood makes you think) , so short sword was much more usefull in these conditions.
@@geol5448 The laconian short sword was a nasty little weapon. It has many similarities to the Gladius in function. In the dense and compact ranks of the phalanx it would have been very useful.
Badass, although undercut that Alexander didn't think it was worth the time to actually invade them. The Spartans had weakened by that point that they were considered a joke.
The preceding reply makes it all the better. Philip II's first message to Sparta was "Would you rather I brought my armies to your lands as an ally or as a foe", and the reply was simply "Neither".
You missed my personal favorites: When asked why the Spartans give such small gifts to the gods, the reply was, "That is so we always have something to give." Also, at Thermopylae, Leonidas needed a messenger to bring news of their impending defeat back to Sparta. The first two Spartans refused, preferring to die in the field with Leonidas. The third replied, "But, sire, if I stay, then the news will be better."
While Lycurgus was busy turning Sparta into what it became, he was looking for ideas. A Spartan came to him and proposed, why don't try democracy? Lycurgus replied, "Start with your own family". Two Greek guys from somewhere far made the long journey to the Spartans to ask for grain. When they arrived, they made a long speach telling of their situation and the journey etc. When they were done, the Spartans told them..."it was so long, we forgot the first half and was thus unable to make sense of the second." The two guys left and then returned with an empty grain bag and holding up the bag said: "bag needs grain"...The Spartans replied: "you didn't have to say "bag".
Phillip didn't say "If I invade Laconia..." In this case the Spartan answer would be plain stupid. He said that If he conquers Sparta he will show no mercy, the city will be razed to the ground and all Spartans will be sold as slaves, to which they replied "if".
@@yihuamei9427 You sure your comprehension isn't just lacking a tiny bit in this case? If Phillip has said "If I invade", the Spartan response would be a call out to the fact that Phillip did not dare, because the whole threat was a sham; it makes perfect sense, and follows the common form of such wordplay.
My favorite Spartan one liner is one that historians debate if it actually happened. The Greek Xiphos was the most common sword in Greece at the time and the one that the Spartans used was known to be smaller than the average of its day. One day an Athenian soldier asked a Spartan "why don't you use longer swords?" To which the Spartan replied " its long enough to reach your heart."
"With it or on it" does not mean "victory or death". This is a common misconception. Spartans were not stupid - if the battle was unwinnable, they wouldn't fight it but would rather retreat. The life of a Spartan was very valuable, and it would take decades to replace a single soldier. Instead it meant "Come back organized, or die", for the first thing that you did when you started fleeing in panic was to drop your cumbersome shield. You could retreat and thereby lose, but you had to retreat in an organized force, not as a scattered mob of honor less cowards. If you dishonored yourself by dropping your shield in panic, it was better you did not return at all.
In a sense the video's interpretation wasn't too far off. If you retreat in an orderly fashion that usually means you will fight again (if you flee without your weapons, not so much), I guess it does lead to the misconception that they always stood their ground no matter what..
The shield was a symbol of unity. Unlike a helmet, which only protects the wearer, the shield also protected the man to the left, and their main fighting formation, the phalanx, was designed around the shield. Losing your helmet or even your spear was acceptable, but losing your shield was very dishonorable as it allowed you to fight as a team and protect your brothers.
TeroHal look up the word "ripsaspis" (ρίψασπις) which literally means : one that dropped his shield. Still in use in modern Greek to describe a quitter.
It may have had connotations of "victory or death" though the basic meaning is don't lose the shield because dropping the shield(presumably in order to be able to run faster) was considered the sign of a *coward* (very stigmatising thing in Sparta). It was a heroic death to be brought back dead on your shield after your comrades had fought hard to retrieve your fallen body and give it an honourable burial back home, and it was probably OK to return home defeated with your shield, but if you came back without your shield(which you probably had inherited from your father and he from his father and which was now the enemy's trophy) it would raise suspisions that you had shown cowardice during the battle and likely tried to run. (Plus shields are expensive items and we don't have money for a new one LOL)
Its honestly the single most badass one-liner I think I've ever heard. Just savage. Though a little bit of backstory is that the Spartans were not really a threat at that point and Phillip had other reasons not to invade Laconia than fear of military resistance.
Agreed, it is the only one liner that can still be used today and is still just as savage. Also, the Spartans may not have been top dogs but they were still feared for their tenacity in battle. Not to mention the fact that Spartan training was so revered that children from other city states still send their children there to learn.
Both Phillip and Alexander did not bother because not even the effort was worth it. They knew Sparta was a stubborn little chihuahua with a mean bite but at the same time not a threat at all so they just left them alone. It's not like they needed the Spartans anymore, their time of glory was over.
It also gave the Macedonians and excuse for extensive garrisons left in Greek cities to counter the spartan 'threat'' while on campaign in other areas. Allowing for a firm military hold on the newly conquered and eager to rebel city states.
You actually left out a line said by Leonidas at Thermopylae: At some point, Leonidas said of Xerxes army, "Xerxes has plenty of men, but he has no soldiers." This may have been what prompted Xerxes to send out his Immortals.
I am not aware that it is attributed to any particular Spartan, but the line is at least in Herodotos' retelling of events. He says something like: "after having fought an entire day, with the Persians gaining little ground and the Spartans losing no men, while the Persians losses were heavy, the Spartans realised that though the Persians had many peoples fighting for them they had brought few men." I don't have the original in English so I can't find the exact quote at this time.
Actually he send the immortals after they couldn't penetrate the the Spartan's formation but they didn't have success with the immortals either . They lost after a lot of waves of enemies
Me listening to sabatons screaming eagles in the background. (GO TO BASTONE THE CROOSROADS MUST HOLD, STAND ALONE THE COOOOOOOLD.) (that part of the lyrics of the song if you couldn't tell)
there was another one i really liked when a spartan general wrote to the spartan government back home that "athens is taken", the other spartans replied: "you should have just said "taken""
It's like the [almost certainly apocryphal, sadly] story of the British general in India, Sir Charles Napier, who supposedly sent a one-word dispatch to tell HQ he'd succeeded in his mission of conquest of the Indian princely state of Sindh: "Peccavi" [which is Latin for, "I have sinned"].
I am in a small village in Laconia right now(some km from sparta ).It's 3 a.m. ...everyone in the village is sleeping(total silence) and i am watching the best quotes of my ancestors.damn i feel so good
Phillip didn't say "If I invade Laconia..." In this case the Spartan answer would be plain stupid. He said that If he conquers Sparta he will show no mercy, the city will be razed to the ground and all Spartans will be sold as slaves, to which they replied "if".
Americans have the same way of thinking. During the battle of the bulge the German had this American unit surrounded the Germans sent a letter telling the Americans to surrender or else. The American Gen. replied One word, "Nuts."
...and then the Persians Molon'd all the Spartans' Labes. People tend to forget that part though. The Persians burned Athens and took every city up to Corinth, before being defeated at Salamis in a naval engagement, not with swords & spears. Fearing being outflanked without naval support, he retreated back to Asia.
Shame you didn't include one of my favorites. It takes place between an Athenian and the Spartan diplomat Antalcidas. Athenian: We have often driven you from the Cephisus (a river that flows through the Athenian plain) Antalcidas: But we have never driven you from the Eurotas (a river that flows near Sparta)
There is a comeback that I really like. Spartan's swords were shorter compared to other greek sword. At some point someone asked a spartan "why is your sword so short?" and the spartan just said "It's long enough to reach your hearth".
I am very pleased to present the pilot episode for the new Moments series! These will attempt to provide a more bit size view of history from a much wider and less traditional scope than is common. For instance the next episode will be looking at the serial killers of the ancient past. The narration was done by Officially Devin (ruclips.net/user/OfficiallyDevin) and I had assistance with the art from T. Hopwood. With this new series I will be better able to leverage outside help to reduce my workload. This will allow me to put out historical videos more frequently and get back to pending series like the Siege of Jerusalem or the Evolution of the Roman Legions.
Again thank you all for your support. As always, feedback is very much welcome!
This really is an original idea, it will bring some pleasant diversity to your videos and the topics studied! Great art and voice acting, kudos to everyone who worked on it.
Make 1453! The final fall of the Romans, and the end of the Medieval Age!
BTW i really appreciate how you guys dont fill in the videos with number counting cards and instead put the numbers in the top corner. I really appreciate that, keeps the flow and makes the video non-annoying
Glad you appreciated the little touch, I really wanted to focus more placing the quotes together in a way that drives a narrative than an arbitrary list based on "epicness"
Invicta Absolutely love this video, the visual style is great, the content is interesting and the narration is good too. Awesome work man!
The Spartans would've done pretty well on Twitter.
blahahha! so true
Exist in name only, not spirit
Evil Snail
No. Spartans don't exist anymore so stop trying to inflate your importance or ego. Fool.
Evil Snail with all due respect, I doubt modern citizens of the city of Sparta have much to do with ancient laconic warriors
Evil Snail
Well if so, like the guy above said, in name not in spirit.
“Forever immortalized”. So much better than being temporarily immortalized.
Yeah, those tautologies make me frustrated by how much they wind me up 😏
@@Dazzletoad did you do that deliberately on purpose?
@@HenryMcGuinnessGuitar it's not like he had an unintentional accident.
It’s funny because something that has a ton of writing and records is barely remembered, but the Spartans kept little to know records and they are remembered through history.
@@Dazzletoad tautologies are tautologies.
“He who sweats more in training, bleeds less in War” - The old Spartan Warrior Mantra
somehow this made it into hebrew- קשה באימונים קל בקרב
(if it's) hard in training (it will be) easy in battle
i think they would have respected Bruce Lee if they ever met him. given his one single quote "I fear not the man who's practiced 10,000 kicks, but i fear the man who's practiced one kick 10,000 times."
Тяжело в учении, легко в бою. -Суворов
Sun tzu
No its sun tzus
Spartans may have had a bit of an ego, but they were the epitome of warriors and they backed that ego until death.
People try to discount them but the fact is that thy are the epitome of masculinity. Only for gynocentric beta males do men find satisfaction in their defeat.
Spartan society was matriarchate actually, that is why. Matrirchate is from Macedonia Doric 7000y. BC.
No, not really. They were really good at shitposting, but they weren't better than the guys from say, Thebes.
It’s not arrogance if you can ACTUALLY back it up.
Actually no. Sparta was ruled by men. Women were allowed to speak but not vote. Womendid even get to decide what happened to their boys at age 6 they were sent of for war training.
My favorite Laconic remark was made by a Spartan general after the battle of Salamis in 480 BC. The Greeks had captured the Persian general's camp, and seeing all riches in gold, silver, and silks that their adversary had brought with him, was heard to remark:
"See what fools these were, who live like this, yet came to rob us of our poverty."
Only time I've ever agreed with a Spartan.
Is it because the spartans were racial nationalists?
@@eth.nat.network4248, they didn't get paid at all.
@@tonyaxis3063 Yes they were not paid and at some stage they banned money to prevent accumulation of wealth as IT was corrupting nad bad for people.
@uncletigger you realize that modern concepts of race and national identity did not exist during their time, right? Back in the days before the modern race based system you were simply identified with whatever region you were from and not your skin color. In many ancient civilizations, individuals with widely varying physical appearances became full members of a society by growing up within that society or by adopting that society's cultural norms. Classical civilizations such as Rome and China tended to invest the most importance in familial or tribal affiliation than in an individual's physical "appearance". Modern concepts of race and nationalism do not apply to pre colonial era societies as those are heavily influenced by modern ideas of race and nation states. A Spartan would not have considered some Norse barbarian to be the same race as themselves and felt no nationalism toward Greece as a whole.
@@nieczerwony so they tried communism and it kinda worked?
"You mind telling me what you're doing on that ship"
"Sir, finishing this fight"
But first....I need a weapon.
The Spartans were defeated, were it so easy
+Flycotic Hahahahaha, yep! The greatest Spartan one liner of all.
Probably one of the best one liners from spartans ever. But what is more memorable is "Wake me When you need me".
Cali Style
Lol, I see what you did there
Ah yes, my favorite Spartan.
*Legends say that the persians are still falling through that hole to get Earth and Water*
To be fair, Sparta wasn't the only one to reject the offer. Athens put their messengers on trial and then executed them
@@jovalin5939
And, at least the Spartans, dreaded that act.
The BEST one-liner was when Philip II asked "Do you want me to enter your lands as friend or foe?"...BADASS response..."Neither".
That's not badass... Sounds cool, but they knew that if he went they were dead. They were eventually defeated and occupied by some random macedonian during Alexander reign, for trying to attack while the king was away laying waste to Persia while massively outnumbered and far from home. Both Phillip and Alexander each were WAY more badass and accomplished than anyone that was ever born in Sparta in it's long history of more bark than bite, even if they way of life and culture was indeed based on war.
maybe to you but to a spartan death on the battlefield was the only way to live. I like it personally i would rather die standing fighting to my last breath rather than kneeling in slavery.
George Jackson Philip II: Am I a joke to you?
Die with pride is better than surrender with shame.
@@HenriqueErzinger After the Peloponisian war Sparta lost many soldiers and had many inside problems. The rest greeks feared that they will become like the Athenians and opress them, so they made them have smaller army and most of it to become mercenerys. That was the dawnfall of sparta. If Sparta was at its glory im not so sure Macedonians would be able to beat them.
Leonidas:Immortals?
We'll put their name to the test
In France, we have "Immortals", a group of useless elder people who discuss the evolution of language. yes they die a lot, but every time they get replaced and there are always 40 of them, thus the name, immortals.
Same idea goes for the Persian ones. Immortals because their number was always the same.
Just sayin'
Spartans do not ask how many. They ask where!
Philipp Von Blohn played too much total war huh
correct xD
"Speaking is the most important skill man can acquire, there is no need for warriors in times of peace Spartan King".
Spartan King: "And when you are done talking, you are worthless."
This is my favorite...!!
This is another great Laconic phrase
“I am not afraid to die, but to die by such a coward.” He was shot with an arrow in the chest.
I remember a Roman General laying siege to a city in Spain. The Spanish boasted "we have enough food in the city to last us ten years!" to which the Roman replied "then we'll take your city in the eleventh!"
Such was the determination of the Romans that the Spanish commander surrendered the city immediately.
Edit: to all the people saying a)Spain did not exist at the time or b) it was Etruscan or Gallic city that the Romans besieged, you are probably right as it's been at least 15 years since I read this stuff and I may have misremembered bits of the story.
_That said y'all missed the point I was trying to make by getting all hung up on details. The Romans were bloody determined even in the teeth of severe adversity_
The Romans never conquered Spain. They founded it. First Hispania and later on Lusitania.
BurnRoddy they were probaly sieging a carthagian settlement in spain or a Greek colony
They were laying siege to a Gaulish city (France) not a Spanish city. Hispania was romanized very easily and early on.
Oh, snap! Immortal detected!
The romans won more wars with the pick than with the sword.
A little known Spartan jail warden named William Corganus once said to a Persian captive who was issuing death threats: "Despite all your rage you are still just a rat in a cage."
William is not a Greek name
Joe your killing me smalls
@@evanhoy2339 I aim to please.
@@joebloggs5318 I see comedy has struck again
You forgot one, its when a newborn isnt strong enought
"*YEET*"
🤣🤣🤣 yea they kinda did the whole yeetus fetus deletus
its a mercy.
It's kind of a Mercy Kill because they don't want the Weak to be in a world of Pain and Hell.
Rom did almost the same
This was Athenian propaganda!
Some important knowledge to understand "with it or on it": Shields were heavy back then. If you wanted to flee from combat, you had to drop your shield. Men who dropped their shields and ran were branded as "Ρίψασπις, Ripsaspis", which means "shield dropper". Also, dead soldiers were carried back to their family on their shields, as a ritual.
Persian: My Arm!
Spartan: it's not your arm anymore
Disarmed
Communism:it's our arm
Phillip or Alexander never invaded Sparta because it was a useful boogeyman to keep the greek city states in line.
Macedonians and Spartans had Doric ties while Athens had Aetolian and rest from Africa(Egypt,Ethiopia) and Middle east (Anatolia,Lebanon,Armenia)Ionian.
@Calamity yap...In the early days, many Greeks were pirates, especially Eobeans who pirated in the eastern Mediterranean. The pirates set up new bases of operation in places like Cilicia, etc. The Egyptians and other victims recognised their fighting skill and hired them as mercenaries. Those mercenaries settled in some of those places, like Egypt. Colonization became a thing for Greeks to solve overpopulation, relocating outcasts, criminals or refugees.
Cope
That's part of it, but it's more likely that they didn't want to divide their attention or strength away from the Persians.
I have no doubt that the Macedonians would have beaten the Spartans, who at that point were a shadow of their former glory anyway, but it would have cost them, it would have further alienated them from the Greeks, it might have inspired rebellion in other city-states, it would have taken more effort to subdue the Spartans than just ignoring them, and the fact that ancient battles were always risky and even a small loss would have tarnished their reputation.
Philip did invade but fearing a blood bath to his troops he did NOT take Sparta itself.
It’s not propaganda. Babylon, Persian Empire, etc. spoke very highly of Sparta and Spartans alike. When your enemies speak and give high praise, it’s not longer “Propaganda”
Often it is. Ceasar is thought to embellish the ferocity of his Gallic enemies to add to his own glory.
@@Ilamarea
Genius
@@Ilamarea praising your enemy works as a propaganda only when you win. But when you lose the usual propaganda is that your enemy does not win by strength but by luck or cheating. So in the context of persia, if they want to produce propaganda - it would be to discredit Spartans. If they praise spartans, then persians are simply being a good loser. Of course they dont actually lose to sparta but they dont conquer sparta either.
THIS
I mean the greeks were not unified so propaganda about other city states that were enemies doesn't make sense
*"IF"* probably the best comeback in that time
Spartans were always provoking a fight with their intelligent choice of words, this shows the highest confidence in one's ability to fight and their commitment to that fighting lifestyle . It also show's how educated they were, i personally think they were the smartest of all the world at this point in time and even up to date now. In those times the whole world was in their own different wars and sparta chose not to be a victim to all the greek states' policies and sanctions. You have to become the fiercest warriors in all of greece (and the world) to tell the other countries " you can't tell us what to do, but you can try to make us if you dare", in politics and diplomacy.
i think they where not provoking anyone, but rater just being naturally so much toughter then their enemies that the enemie felt inferior
Yeah it's really impressive how much time you can devote to combat training when all of your food and labor are grown and performed by slaves
@@lancemannly ah yes, most of human history involves slavery. How astute of you to point this out
To this day, they speak Laconic Greek, but only the old do, sadly.
I can understand but not speak Ancient Greek and also understand most dialects like Cypriot Greek and Cretan. The last remaining true, unbiased carriers of Spartan blood, the Maniots, of whom I am part of, speak with few Ancient Greek words alongside Modern Greek.
Love the Rome 2 soundtrack in the background. Suits perfectly!
4:08 OH, BURN! Even Churchill couldn't top that one. Go Gorgo!
03:35 That’s not what it means, it basically means come back with the shield in your hands, Referring to you staying alive, or come back dead on your shield carried by your allies.
Thank you, someone, who knows honestly so many people are saying that it meant something completely different last I checked people we're very literal back then because life was so hard and rough plus the Spartans never surrendered or retreated
The story of the Spartans responding "αίκα" (if) to Philip of Macedon stuck with me so much that I've used to steady myself in front of any challenge or doubt I've seen in my life. I had it tattooed on my arm this past summer and now it's a part of who I am.
“If” goddamn I got knocked out of my chair by that one.
Apparently, not only can the Spartans fight in the shade, they can throw it too!
I keep coming back to this channel to calm my 3 month old. For some reason he loves listening to it. Coincidentally I'm learning a lot haha
Texans after learning of Sparta's "come and take them": I'm a Spartan now. xD
During Peloponnesian war, after the Spartan General submitted Athens he send a Laconic Message to Spartan Ephores: "Athens Defeated", the reply from Sparta was also Laconic: "Good"!!
3:12 A few thousand years later, and Gonzales, TX went full spartan with this line
Another Spartan famous quote: "I need a weapon."
If anything they were a weapon
Pankration was not an easy sport
Especially when it had a rule for “no Spartans allowed in the Olympic Games” because these guys fought and trained with eye gouging/cheap shots as the norm
My favourite isn't so epic but really shows the whole attitude of Spartans. After General Brasidas' death at the Battle of Amphipolis (which was the battle that saw Spartan victory over Athens and the death of Kleon, Pericles' successor), the news was brought back to Sparta. Brasidas' mother, Argileonis was told of how brave her son was and how there was no better than he to which she replied "Say not so strangers; Brasidas was noble and brave, but Sparta has many better men than he". Should note that Brasidas had been praised during the war for being an excellent strategist, and a man of great virtue. Thucydides even noted that Brasidas truly held to the Spartan ideals and was truly a great man. All that, and still his mom was like "eh could have been better". Spartans always have room for improvement I guess.
Forgot the best one about Brasidas I am a fake fan oof. At the Battle of Pylos, Brasidas knew that to get past the barricade Demosthenes has constructed around the shores, they'd have to ram it. When questioned on it and told the damage it could cause, he replied with "It's only a few planks". I love Assassin's Creed Odyssey, but they really did my boy Brasidas dirty. He should of had way more action scenes and been allowed to spit out more speeches. He was considered to have been very eloquent. Someone once put it that he was the most Athenian of the Spartans while also being extremely Spartan.
Actually at macedonian 🇬🇷 town Amphipolis battle 422BC:
Spartan Vrasidas with Macedonian Perdikkas
Vs
Athenian Kleon
Dorian Greeks (Macedonians 🇬🇷 Spartans) won
During their celebrations, there were 3 kind of dances.
- Dances for old men. They were starting the dance while chanting "We once were young and strong"
- Dances for for middle age men. They would sing "We are the strong ones. Watch and learn"
- Dances for young ones. The would start the dance yelling "We will be better than you all"
My favorite is the soldier who said “oh that’s good, it’s hot out and we would like to fight in the shade” there is like a billion different records but you get the gist
For some insane reason I'm only getting a 39 second video. Not that it only will load the first 39 seconds, but that the whole video is listed at 39 seconds. Anyone have an idea as to what is causing this?
Xerxes: Surrender or Death?
Leonidas: YES
"If" gotta be the most badass quote ever
with the phrase "with it or on it" they referred to a fighter's shield which basically meant either they came home with their shields or on it (spartan tradition to carry their dead on their shields)
So cool that the most savage lines from the movie/comic are actually historical.
4:52 LOL
My god, the Spartan are badass.
It's brilliant and brave things like this that motivate to give my 100% in everything.
A Spartan commander inspects his troops.
He walks to the first Spartan soldier, hits him in the face and asks:
'Did that hurt?'
The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!'
The commander asks:
'Why not?'
The Spartan soldier replies:
'Because I am a Spartan!'
The commander nods in approval and continues.
He walks a few paces down the line,
then he suddenly turns and hits a Spartan soldier in the guts.
Then he asks the Spartan soldier:
'Did that hurt?'
The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!'
The commander asks:
'Why not?'
The Spartan soldier replies:
'Because I am a Spartan!'
Again the commander nods in approval.
Then he looks down the line to find something extrordinary.
A bulge sticking out of the loin cloth of one of the Spartans in the line.
The commander smiles to himself and walks over.
When reaching the Spartan soldier with the bulge,
he quickly bends, picks up a thick branch
and hits the Spartan soldier in the bulge with the branch
then turns to the Spartan soldier and asks:
'Did that hurt?'
The Spartan soldier replies 'No, sir!'
The commander asks:
'Why not?'
The Spartan soldier replies:
"Because it belongs to the dude behind me!"
"YOU WANT OUR SHIELDS, COME AND GET THEM!"
Very well made, thank you. I liked the narrator's voice, he sounded like Dilios (performed by David Wenham) in the 300!
S-117: *Wake me, when you need me*
Oh sorry wrong spartan
Same legendary soldiers through
👉👉
Phillip writes to Leonidas. If we invade Laconia the Spartans will be driven into the sea, never to rise again. Leonidas replies "IF".
And he did. Also, it wasn’t Leonidas who reportedly said that.
Nice animations, a pleasure to watch
forgot to add that they were the first full time payed army and the romans built their legions on spartan philosophy
One ambassador to one king. "one riot; one Ranger"
the greatest roman one liner for me is "Veni,Vidi,Victi." :3
The roman gg easy noobs
Actually it is "Veni, vidi, vici" which means "came, saw, won". It was attributed to Julius Caesar, but more than likely it was the invention of a scholar who wrote about him. There wasn't really a trend to bring chroniclers in battle, so the ones that did write the history did so from second hand accounts and embellished stories, which they then proceeded to embellish themselves.
Roman Senator: "Sparta, pssh...locus enim sonat feriae. Venite igitur."
Iphricrates had the Spartans' number and used light troops to do it, pointing the way to success later exploited by Phillip II of Macedon and his better known son. The son of a shoemaker, Iphicrates designed special boots for light troops that were used for several hundred years, being particularly popular with Roman officers.
4:02 single most savage sentence in the history of mankind
This one you may not know.. (an Athenian maid during the Peloponnese war) "We knew nothing about them, you only met them on the battlefield and those who did didn't come back to tell us about them.."
"Would you rather me come as a friend or foe?"
"Neither"
3:35 Narrator could have mentioned that coming home “with it or on it” refers to the warrior’s shield. With it (victorious) or (being carried) on it (dead).
i kinda feel that the line "with it or on it" means more like dont surrender like not letting the shield fall to flee
300 Spartans………..
Aaaaaand 7000 other little boy lovers.
Legendary presentation
Imagine saying something thousands of years ago and it still being heard.
Philip also sent another message:"Would you like me to enter your lands as a friend or foe?" The spartans answered another one word response:"Neither."
spartans wanted that beef so bad lmao but they would still clap cheeks tho
Yes, love that one especially.
oof😂
amak3 yeah, I think I heard that that was actually what provoked the threat
JG_BotYT actually, the macedonians were superior in military tech, and would have won. I guess phillip respected their ballsiness so much that he didnt invade them
Another "Laconism" I've heard of is Sparta's response to an extremely long-winded, but beautifully phrased, Athenian proposal of alliance.
The reply was: "No".
They take no flowery deliberation or honeyed words. They as to the point as their spears
This one made me laugh more than the rest
And they did it using a same length letter, as the athenians had sent them, so it was a gigantic “no”
Or another time when a village was asking for more rations of wheat and gave a long winded proposal for why. By the time they finished the Spartans listening had forgotten most of their points and so denied them food. Later the same village tried again and simply said "We need food". The Spartans replied that they didn't even need the first two words, and sent them enough food for winter
@@sagesarrazine6270 “Why use lot word when few do trick?” - Spartans probably
"we are the only ones who give birth to men" roasting people before it was cool
They could also sleep with any man they wanted, even after marriage, if the husban was away (which generally he was) and if it's purpouse was to do it absolutely unprotected in the hopes of concieving a child.
+BurnRoddy Hahaha, what? That's actually hilarious to me for some reason. Like, it was socially acceptable to get cucked, lol.
Michael Henry probably bc more kids = more future soldiers
Women in Sparta get married at the age of 18_19 . In the rest of Greece the age was 12_14 . Also they could have property speak in public and had same education as men. When king Pyros of Epirus attack Sparta (at that time Spartas glory had long gone) he failed to conquer them even wasn't any fortifications and both man and women fight(about 4000 in total). Problem with Sparta is that society didn't evolve during Classical age and remain on the Archaic age status.
Lone Hiker yeah they definitely would have been an even more dominant force if they advanced with the times.
My favourite:
An old man went to the Olympics and begged the Athenians for a seat but no one moved. He then went to the Thracians, then the Corinthians, always ignored. When he approached the Spartans, they all rose and watched the game standing, the old man being the only one seated.
After the game, one Spartan said: "Every Greek knows what's right, only the Spartans do it"
Wow
Impressive
@@dafi0 that would’ve been Macedonia not Sparta
@@dafi0 fire...they really cared for human rights
@@dafi0 Romania was invaded since the fall of roman empire by tartars, huns, mongols etc, eastern europe is completely mixed with the people of the east, and no they are not beasts.
"The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are." Agis II (427 - 401 BC)
"ου ποσοι αλλα που"
Yeah I think the actual quote is a lot shorter. I think more like _"not how many, but where"_ (4 short words in Greek) What Bantak Kor wrote sounds more like how those idle-talking Athenian babblers would have phrased it. LOL
Well since I can't speak greek, I can only use what translations tell me ;)
he told you what you said but in the original form of ancient greek
I realised that. But as I said, I can't read Greek, therefore I could only quote as I found it in English, but it's good that a more accurate translation is provided (and a Greek version, but most non-greeks won't be able to read it). :)
Surprised this didn't make it in:
"Who is the greatest man in all of Sparta?"
"The one least like you."
DAMN
another victory for the shining city of our fathers!!!!
It is Kratos
Ouch. that burned even me
I can feel the burn from here
"If I enter Laconia, you will be destroyed, never to rise again!"
*_"If."_*
sent a chill down *my* spine just hearing it!
And they never doubt it will be a very costly victory if they do. More costly than anyone can imagine!
That is one of the best lines ever, with Gen. McAuliffe "Nuts." from the Battle of Bastogne the only one that's close.
Imagine sending an envoy to make a trip to deliver this one word.
@@innosanto Probably hilarious
One of my favourites:
A young Spartan warrior complains that his sword (encheiridion) is too short to reach his enemies. His mother simply says: "Then add a step to it."
Spartans had on purpose short swords to have close contact and look the opponent in the eye.
innosanto I remember a conversation another greek had with a spartan. The greek asked why spartan swords were so short. The spartan replied “It’s long enough to reach your heart.”
@@innosanto they were fighting mostly on phalanx formation ( contraty to what hollywood makes you think) , so short sword was much more usefull in these conditions.
@@geol5448 The laconian short sword was a nasty little weapon. It has many similarities to the Gladius in function. In the dense and compact ranks of the phalanx it would have been very useful.
Blaadclaat
If.
Akuma Studies That was my favourite.
Badass, although undercut that Alexander didn't think it was worth the time to actually invade them. The Spartans had weakened by that point that they were considered a joke.
If is good
The preceding reply makes it all the better. Philip II's first message to Sparta was "Would you rather I brought my armies to your lands as an ally or as a foe", and the reply was simply "Neither".
If if if if if if if if okie dokie.
Alexander: Skip Sparta and conquer the whole Asia.
10/10 Genius.
sparta did not exist that time
they were a ghost of their formal selfs
no army no might nothing
Not whole of Asia though? I don't recall he conquer China or Japan.
No, thats Genghis Khan. His territory make Alexander look like a joke
*laughs in British Empire*
Laughs in china's product..conquerong the whole world..
"Fine quarters for women"
Damn son
yeah... not the smartest cookie
@Hakageryuu
They were Ancient Greek, this wouldn't by an insult
@Hakageryuu
Ya buddy, might want to check up on that...
I laughed my ass off
That was hilarious
@@steelbear2063 that would be considering that the Greeks were known for there intelligence.
You missed my personal favorites:
When asked why the Spartans give such small gifts to the gods, the reply was, "That is so we always have something to give."
Also, at Thermopylae, Leonidas needed a messenger to bring news of their impending defeat back to Sparta. The first two Spartans refused, preferring to die in the field with Leonidas. The third replied, "But, sire, if I stay, then the news will be better."
While Lycurgus was busy turning Sparta into what it became, he was looking for ideas. A Spartan came to him and proposed, why don't try democracy? Lycurgus replied, "Start with your own family".
Two Greek guys from somewhere far made the long journey to the Spartans to ask for grain. When they arrived, they made a long speach telling of their situation and the journey etc. When they were done, the Spartans told them..."it was so long, we forgot the first half and was thus unable to make sense of the second."
The two guys left and then returned with an empty grain bag and holding up the bag said: "bag needs grain"...The Spartans replied: "you didn't have to say "bag".
Zeus: Why do you give me such small gifts?!
Spartan: It’s a gift, right?
Ashwin Mouton a
legendary
@Damian Patriot A gift is a gift no matter how numerous or glamorous it is.
*"We are the only ones who give birth to men."*
So... epic.
Though by the time of Pyrrhus of Epirus, it was the Spartan women who had to goad their men into fighting.
Phillip didn't say "If I invade Laconia..." In this case the Spartan answer would be plain stupid. He said that If he conquers Sparta he will show no mercy, the city will be razed to the ground and all Spartans will be sold as slaves, to which they replied "if".
Yeah but they still needed spartan men semen for that so.
Best one
@@yihuamei9427 You sure your comprehension isn't just lacking a tiny bit in this case? If Phillip has said "If I invade", the Spartan response would be a call out to the fact that Phillip did not dare, because the whole threat was a sham; it makes perfect sense, and follows the common form of such wordplay.
Imagine scaring two generations of conquerors with one word
*SAVAGE*
They weren't scared, it was more about respect.
@@anubhavghosh4556 same thing back then
They weren't scared, it's just that sparta at the time was so weak and poor that attaking it was pointless
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Your username doesn't give you much value in terms of knowledge tbh so better to keep your mouth shut, just saying
My favorite Spartan one liner is one that historians debate if it actually happened. The Greek Xiphos was the most common sword in Greece at the time and the one that the Spartans used was known to be smaller than the average of its day. One day an Athenian soldier asked a Spartan "why don't you use longer swords?" To which the Spartan replied " its long enough to reach your heart."
nysp993 I believe they were referencing the Xyle, don't quote me on that though.
My favorite is the one where a Spartan complains to his mother that his spear is too short.
"Step forward and it will be long enough."
"Because the longest one impregnate your women." - Me
greeks fights with spears
Spears broke sometimes they used swords too.
"With it or on it" does not mean "victory or death". This is a common misconception. Spartans were not stupid - if the battle was unwinnable, they wouldn't fight it but would rather retreat. The life of a Spartan was very valuable, and it would take decades to replace a single soldier.
Instead it meant "Come back organized, or die", for the first thing that you did when you started fleeing in panic was to drop your cumbersome shield. You could retreat and thereby lose, but you had to retreat in an organized force, not as a scattered mob of honor less cowards. If you dishonored yourself by dropping your shield in panic, it was better you did not return at all.
Point taken, the actual meaning/context was overly simplified for the purposes of the video
In a sense the video's interpretation wasn't too far off. If you retreat in an orderly fashion that usually means you will fight again (if you flee without your weapons, not so much), I guess it does lead to the misconception that they always stood their ground no matter what..
The shield was a symbol of unity. Unlike a helmet, which only protects the wearer, the shield also protected the man to the left, and their main fighting formation, the phalanx, was designed around the shield. Losing your helmet or even your spear was acceptable, but losing your shield was very dishonorable as it allowed you to fight as a team and protect your brothers.
TeroHal look up the word "ripsaspis" (ρίψασπις) which literally means : one that dropped his shield. Still in use in modern Greek to describe a quitter.
It may have had connotations of "victory or death" though the basic meaning is don't lose the shield because dropping the shield(presumably in order to be able to run faster) was considered the sign of a *coward* (very stigmatising thing in Sparta). It was a heroic death to be brought back dead on your shield after your comrades had fought hard to retrieve your fallen body and give it an honourable burial back home, and it was probably OK to return home defeated with your shield, but if you came back without your shield(which you probably had inherited from your father and he from his father and which was now the enemy's trophy) it would raise suspisions that you had shown cowardice during the battle and likely tried to run.
(Plus shields are expensive items and we don't have money for a new one LOL)
Spartan: “Sir, permission to leave the station?”
Admiral: “for what reason?”
Spartan: “to give the covenant back their bomb”
Admiral: “Permission granted”
@@henrymilner7061 could have just said "granted".
@@GuadalupeF.Arredondo But that was the Admiral's quote.
@@markfiedler9415 no shit for real?
Master Chief is very laconic, and its perfect because he's a "Spartan".
My favourite one is the If one to Philip
Its honestly the single most badass one-liner I think I've ever heard. Just savage. Though a little bit of backstory is that the Spartans were not really a threat at that point and Phillip had other reasons not to invade Laconia than fear of military resistance.
Agreed, it is the only one liner that can still be used today and is still just as savage. Also, the Spartans may not have been top dogs but they were still feared for their tenacity in battle. Not to mention the fact that Spartan training was so revered that children from other city states still send their children there to learn.
If.
Both Phillip and Alexander did not bother because not even the effort was worth it. They knew Sparta was a stubborn little chihuahua with a mean bite but at the same time not a threat at all so they just left them alone. It's not like they needed the Spartans anymore, their time of glory was over.
It also gave the Macedonians and excuse for extensive garrisons left in Greek cities to counter the spartan 'threat'' while on campaign in other areas. Allowing for a firm military hold on the newly conquered and eager to rebel city states.
You actually left out a line said by Leonidas at Thermopylae: At some point, Leonidas said of Xerxes army, "Xerxes has plenty of men, but he has no soldiers." This may have been what prompted Xerxes to send out his Immortals.
How would Xerces have heard him?
@@HrHaakon he had the script
You are quoting a graphic novel then a BS movie? You are educated.
I am not aware that it is attributed to any particular Spartan, but the line is at least in Herodotos' retelling of events.
He says something like: "after having fought an entire day, with the Persians gaining little ground and the Spartans losing no men, while the Persians losses were heavy, the Spartans realised that though the Persians had many peoples fighting for them they had brought few men."
I don't have the original in English so I can't find the exact quote at this time.
Actually he send the immortals after they couldn't penetrate the the Spartan's formation but they didn't have success with the immortals either . They lost after a lot of waves of enemies
“If” and “nuts” are perhaps the two most savage responses to ultimatums in history.
Ah the response to the Germans asking the Americans to surrender at Bastogne.
"NUTS!"
Me listening to sabatons screaming eagles in the background. (GO TO BASTONE THE CROOSROADS MUST HOLD, STAND ALONE THE COOOOOOOLD.) (that part of the lyrics of the song if you couldn't tell)
*Then we will fight in the shade.*
you know that didnt actually happen, right?
Sepehr Voshmgir It did. It is from historical sources.
Sepehr Voshmgir
It did happen dummy. Haven't you seen 300?
Sepehr Voshmgir it did. just the dramatic aspect of how they fought/the number of soldiers fighting was false in regards to the 300 comic/movie.
It's well documented that the spartan soldiers had a sick dance battle vs the immortals.
there was another one i really liked
when a spartan general wrote to the spartan government back home that "athens is taken", the other spartans replied:
"you should have just said "taken""
Dude actually got in trouble for using to many words lol
Did they really reply with multiple words to tell him he should have used one word? Lol
I bet they just say: words
It's like the [almost certainly apocryphal, sadly] story of the British general in India, Sir Charles Napier, who supposedly sent a one-word dispatch to tell HQ he'd succeeded in his mission of conquest of the Indian princely state of Sindh: "Peccavi" [which is Latin for, "I have sinned"].
"if" .... 10/10
almost as good as "nuts"
I am in a small village in Laconia right now(some km from sparta ).It's 3 a.m. ...everyone in the village is sleeping(total silence) and i am watching the best quotes of my ancestors.damn i feel so good
You have rich strong history and ancestry
you should be having a snack too. Maybe some pork blood soup
Spartans were black hebrews from the tribe of Dan. Maccabees chapter 12. Is that correct?
@@kmbytt984 What?
@@kmbytt984 No.
Phillip didn't say "If I invade Laconia..." In this case the Spartan answer would be plain stupid. He said that If he conquers Sparta he will show no mercy, the city will be razed to the ground and all Spartans will be sold as slaves, to which they replied "if".
Correct.
Americans have the same way of thinking. During the battle of the bulge the German had this American unit surrounded the Germans sent a letter telling the Americans to surrender or else. The American Gen. replied One word, "Nuts."
TimesThree or maybe we took inspiration?
Or Maybe we think the same. Either way it's awesome.
it wouldn't be _stupid_ ,still would make perfect sense.
when I have a child I'm going to name him Sparta so that every time i have to introduce him I can yell "THIS IS SPARTA!!"
Wow nice
Sparta is a women's name, by the way.
Like you're even going to get a child. Lol jke, but i recommend another name because your child will sound too awesome
Traedon Harris I will name my sons Leon (after Leonidas) and Alexander (that one's obvious). Already made that clear to my gf^^
Traedon Harris well, i'm gonna name my children blasphemy & madness
"Come and take them" will always be my favorite.
Molon labe
The original 2nd amendment motto.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
...and then the Persians Molon'd all the Spartans' Labes. People tend to forget that part though. The Persians burned Athens and took every city up to Corinth, before being defeated at Salamis in a naval engagement, not with swords & spears. Fearing being outflanked without naval support, he retreated back to Asia.
@@IAlwaysWantedToTryThat The point of the quote is they'd rather die living their way than give up and be conquered.
"Dig it out for yousrelves" killed me. This is a very good idea as a series, please continue!
Brubarov killed the ambassadors too
Good thing Mongols were very far from being a thing during those times.
@@MarfSantangelo LOL!!! I can't imagine what would've come out of that! Mongol "don't touch my ambassadors" vs spartan "f.u. mentality"
@@Armdfg "FU mentality" is a great description for Sparta xD
@@MarfSantangelo that can be said about the british too😅
Roasted
mad shade man
Invicta did they fight in it?
SING THE DOOM SONG!!!
''Dig it out for yourselves''. And this is how Minecraft was invented.
But they dug straight down...
I don't want to criticize, but I prefer your voice for the spartans, sorry Devin, but you're too athenain for this
Still, he did a good job
Andrei Skobtsov too athenian?
he conquered athens lol
i disagree. The voice was epic, like optimus prime voice, that was the only thing that made transformers worth watching.
Everything Is Rigged Negative Megan Fox made it worth watching. Sort of.
The Spartan women's quote was easily the spiciest. She said that to her face. What a savage.
Literal queen
Top 10 spartan roasts.
NaeNae all day they didnt even need to make a diss track
Shame you didn't include one of my favorites. It takes place between an Athenian and the Spartan diplomat Antalcidas.
Athenian: We have often driven you from the Cephisus (a river that flows through the Athenian plain)
Antalcidas: But we have never driven you from the Eurotas (a river that flows near Sparta)
That is also awesome.
Athenians :we have many dead Spartans out of our walls
Spartans : we have none Athenian out of ours
But it was Athens that survived to greatness while Sparta ended up a poor little village Once they lost their hold on the slaves they were finished
Spartans. Made for battle and breed for war.
Angry Marine Angry Marines. Bred for war and for anger.
Actually My Lord, bred for anger and profanity.
Angry Marine Well at least you have some courtesy as well.
Primarch Roboute Guilliman Hello Papa Blueberry, how's things?
+Angry Marine Not for anger only?
There is a comeback that I really like.
Spartan's swords were shorter compared to other greek sword. At some point someone asked a spartan "why is your sword so short?" and the spartan just said "It's long enough to reach your hearth".
That was the point. It to be short but long enough to throw a jab from over their shield
It was a Spartan warrior to an Athenian soldier. It was also heart not hearth
@@thomasmcgormley9100 Although "long enough to reach your hearth" is its own kind of threatening boast, isn't it?
Kratos, the Ghost of Sparta: "ARREEEESSSS"
"ATHEEENNAAAAAA"
"DEIMOOOOOOSSSS"
"ZEUUUIIUIISSSSS"
"BOI"
b o i, my favourite god
I dunno why, I can hear them in 2 different sounds...
The gates of Hades have NEVER held me!!!!!!!!!
You forgot "GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIA"