you can tell they suck at the game, spamming ashes of war and spells constantly with full confidence, then the moment they are alone, they instantly get rolled.
Sadly elden ring lost the oportunity to have a more skillful community like DS3, just because of theses new braindead players that can only play using AOE magic or pewpew sorceries.
Gonna respectfully disagree there. DS2 had high skill, but not DS3 (R1 spam the game). Most Hosts aren't PVPers. They're just regular gamers trying to beat the game. Invaders are a nuisance (let's be honest) so of course Hosts & Phantoms are going to use stuff that's super strong. The main issue is no 6 player limit where you can have a Host constantly summoning to create activity for people who want to PVP.
@paolo2696 A good point, but even for the R1 spam in the DS3 era, you need a good timing to master the PVP, elden ring now with the DLC, the game changed from a more tactical combat to a bullet hell simulator, the invader is a part of an ecosystem, if the PVP dies, the multiplayer will die too, PVErs dont stay for long, gankers are not PVErs.
@@Nickkeyy-v4j in singular competitive play, (duels and such) most of those are useless against a skilled player, its only when multiple brainlets are throwing dozens of them in your direction that it becomes unbearable.
I understand Steel’s argument but I think you have to look at the average player’s perspective. If you play this game mainly for pve and you see that pvp requires you a whole different kind of attitude + trash wifi hitboxes you’re gonna feel like nothing works and you spam your strongest move. This just gets enhanced in groups cause you basically have one tiny dude that keeps running and rolling around you, and you know it’s just stupid to face them in a fair way cause it’s already unfair, cause you are 3 vs 1, if 3 Steelovsky faced 1 Steelovsky what do you think is gonna happen? This games deserves a better pvp, and if people cared more about pvp, we would have it. Nightreign exists cause they realized thanks to the seamless mod that players wanted a better coop expirience. Why they wanted a better coop? Cause they like to play coop. The majority of poeple doesn’t like souls pvp. Is it really that bad? No but it’s hard to understand and it’s even harder to balance in a game with so many builds. So, if you play this game for big bosses why should you engage with pvp if everything feels so different and even one good rollcatch feels unrewarding compared to stunning even a simple trash mob? I like pvp but I wish that some things got reworked a bit, and it’s not just about some numbers, it’s also about how it LOOKS, cause I know how much skill requires pvp but from an outside perspective you just see two small players in full red-yellow-blue texture that run in circles and constantly switch weapons without even using them, like it’s a pokemon fight. That’s the actual problem, average player will never care about how fair it is or not, cause it’s simply not worth from their perspective, and I’m not defending them but that’s the way it is.
The worst thing is sometimes they aren’t even bad players. They just chose to be subhuman trash and gank in empty levels disabling TT and that. Equivalent of when in school, their two friends held someone down so they could beat him.
Sheesh. Seeing these pvps remind me of my past time in invasions, encountering mostly gankers who use spells and incantations to a degree that none of them are avoidable. Not to mention some among them are very…you know, rude by their respective gestures like the down finger, and also throwing pots from behind on a player’s tarnished corpse gesturing their toots on them.
In Steelovsky's case, it's probably Cheat Engine (he made a guide about using CE in Elden Ring), I would recommend to use Glorious Merchant in Mod Organizer 2, both of them are really tryhardy strategies tho, but do as you will with this information.
One could argue that the Souls games' reputation as being hard contributed to the playerbase always wanting to take the easy way out, but at the end of the day, the community is just a product of the industry. In a less bleak timeline, Fromsoft would've been free to make all the singleplayer Guts simulators they wanted to and the community around them would be better as a result, but alas, that timeline isn't this one. In this hell timeline, games need (terrible) multiplayer support for publisher backing.
bit of a weird comment. Seems like you’re suggesting that you’d rather have the souls game be singleplayer only. But you’re in the comment section of a pvp channel, so I can only assume that you find multiplayer interesting. So what do you mean? Also doesn’t seem fair to accuse fromsoft that they only included multiplayer as a result of publisher pressure just because the multiplayer is poorly designed. Why assume malice when you can just assume incompetence?
@@danielmontilla1197a singular teammate was all you needed in ds3. I understand that Elden ring has some much more dogshit spells and ashes but having a singular teammate to support you is so helpful. That’s what makes 3v1s so bad. Fight clubs also being dead is sad. 6 player limit would bring so much more life to multiplayer
Ох, лол, выглядит как будто вторженец, это моб в лице игрока. большинство вторжений, это вторжения к тем, кто не ожидают этого особенно на низких уровнях. Если придти в песочницу к детям и начать закидывать их песком или топтать их фигурки из песка, то можно назвать себя топовым песочным королем. Жалкое зрелище. Но такова игра, терпим/страдаем, учимся на ошибках.
Unpopular, but when i see a player who has a disrespectful playing style or behavior, i just turn off my internet. For example, fighting someone at the colliseum and they don't make a formal greeting of any kind and just start spamming ashes of war and spells. If you don't respect me, i shouldn't have to respect you.
i played some invasions today and reminded myself why i abandoned elden ring
We need Vow of Silence back.
And Karmatic Justice. Would love if it was ash where it would do endure then add the Karmatic effect.
Also Tranquil walk of peace.
maybe after nightreign?maybe 😅hopefully 😂
@@skywalkersbutido6375
They won’t
Law of causality? @@Aronphobia
@@Helleuphoria I actually forgot lmaooooo
Steel's GF in the background encouraging him and sounding genuinely bloodthirsty to see him bathe in the blood of his enemies.
That was so cute
goals
We all need someone like steelgirl in our life
you can tell they suck at the game, spamming ashes of war and spells constantly with full confidence, then the moment they are alone, they instantly get rolled.
Add friendly fire and Kevins get filtered very fast
Man steel of sky really must be made out of steel in order to endure playing this shitfest
A shtter is a shtter, even in a game. Grant them loving parents.
**me looking over from DS3 invasions** "Man, that looks god awful....godspeed."
16:55 got my lonely ahh smiling
Sadly elden ring lost the oportunity to have a more skillful community like DS3, just because of theses new braindead players that can only play using AOE magic or pewpew sorceries.
Gonna respectfully disagree there. DS2 had high skill, but not DS3 (R1 spam the game).
Most Hosts aren't PVPers. They're just regular gamers trying to beat the game. Invaders are a nuisance (let's be honest) so of course Hosts & Phantoms are going to use stuff that's super strong.
The main issue is no 6 player limit where you can have a Host constantly summoning to create activity for people who want to PVP.
@paolo2696 A good point, but even for the R1 spam in the DS3 era, you need a good timing to master the PVP, elden ring now with the DLC, the game changed from a more tactical combat to a bullet hell simulator, the invader is a part of an ecosystem, if the PVP dies, the multiplayer will die too, PVErs dont stay for long, gankers are not PVErs.
We have competitive players and gameplay. In meta, no one will let you win with aow and magic spam. Try it on ladder and see what happens
@@Nickkeyy-v4j in singular competitive play, (duels and such) most of those are useless against a skilled player, its only when multiple brainlets are throwing dozens of them in your direction that it becomes unbearable.
@@theonpointheavy4401 spam swift slash with bloody infusion bhb and YOU will become unbearable
don't forget sacred flesh
I understand Steel’s argument but I think you have to look at the average player’s perspective. If you play this game mainly for pve and you see that pvp requires you a whole different kind of attitude + trash wifi hitboxes you’re gonna feel like nothing works and you spam your strongest move. This just gets enhanced in groups cause you basically have one tiny dude that keeps running and rolling around you, and you know it’s just stupid to face them in a fair way cause it’s already unfair, cause you are 3 vs 1, if 3 Steelovsky faced 1 Steelovsky what do you think is gonna happen? This games deserves a better pvp, and if people cared more about pvp, we would have it. Nightreign exists cause they realized thanks to the seamless mod that players wanted a better coop expirience. Why they wanted a better coop? Cause they like to play coop. The majority of poeple doesn’t like souls pvp. Is it really that bad? No but it’s hard to understand and it’s even harder to balance in a game with so many builds. So, if you play this game for big bosses why should you engage with pvp if everything feels so different and even one good rollcatch feels unrewarding compared to stunning even a simple trash mob? I like pvp but I wish that some things got reworked a bit, and it’s not just about some numbers, it’s also about how it LOOKS, cause I know how much skill requires pvp but from an outside perspective you just see two small players in full red-yellow-blue texture that run in circles and constantly switch weapons without even using them, like it’s a pokemon fight. That’s the actual problem, average player will never care about how fair it is or not, cause it’s simply not worth from their perspective, and I’m not defending them but that’s the way it is.
The worst thing is sometimes they aren’t even bad players. They just chose to be subhuman trash and gank in empty levels disabling TT and that. Equivalent of when in school, their two friends held someone down so they could beat him.
Imagine we'd get extra flasks, HP, defensive stats, DMG or ANYTHING if theres more than one Phantom.
sTeElovSki hAs HugE PEniSe
You know you are dog water when steel bags on you
Bro you are lucky with your girl cheering you on like that. Officially subbed
Sheesh. Seeing these pvps remind me of my past time in invasions, encountering mostly gankers who use spells and incantations to a degree that none of them are avoidable. Not to mention some among them are very…you know, rude by their respective gestures like the down finger, and also throwing pots from behind on a player’s tarnished corpse gesturing their toots on them.
ok how do you get infinite consumable items like all the pvp youtubers? is it a mod or something?
Either cheat engine, drop from another profile or just reload after some invasions (how I do it on PS)
In Steelovsky's case, it's probably Cheat Engine (he made a guide about using CE in Elden Ring), I would recommend to use Glorious Merchant in Mod Organizer 2, both of them are really tryhardy strategies tho, but do as you will with this information.
Ok thanks
Invaders are NOT the griefers in Elden Ring
They are griefeders
Last invasion was a masterclass ngl
Chat I want to do some max level pvp. What should I notice?
I insist Steelovskaya is the highlight of the year
One could argue that the Souls games' reputation as being hard contributed to the playerbase always wanting to take the easy way out, but at the end of the day, the community is just a product of the industry. In a less bleak timeline, Fromsoft would've been free to make all the singleplayer Guts simulators they wanted to and the community around them would be better as a result, but alas, that timeline isn't this one. In this hell timeline, games need (terrible) multiplayer support for publisher backing.
bit of a weird comment. Seems like you’re suggesting that you’d rather have the souls game be singleplayer only. But you’re in the comment section of a pvp channel, so I can only assume that you find multiplayer interesting. So what do you mean?
Also doesn’t seem fair to accuse fromsoft that they only included multiplayer as a result of publisher pressure just because the multiplayer is poorly designed. Why assume malice when you can just assume incompetence?
After seeing that im glad i stoped invasion in ER and came back to DS3
Love how claw is more satisfied from the shidder dying than another prolly everyone in the stream including steel 16:00
At this point I think the only way to fix the game would be bringing back patch 1.0 poise while also buffing the backstab hitboxes.
When people ask to much cool stuff in game
Steel you must turn to the dark side of magic and incantations to spam and one shot everyone too lol
6 players and rework tt and no more.
Mmm 4 bozos spamming ashes and spells, 5 counting your average room temperature IQ co-red w/friendly fire... No thanks.
@@danielmontilla1197 wouldn't be worse than 3v1
@@danielmontilla1197a singular teammate was all you needed in ds3. I understand that Elden ring has some much more dogshit spells and ashes but having a singular teammate to support you is so helpful. That’s what makes 3v1s so bad. Fight clubs also being dead is sad. 6 player limit would bring so much more life to multiplayer
I started playing DS3 after Christmas lol
the amount of foutth of july fireworks 😮
Ох, лол, выглядит как будто вторженец, это моб в лице игрока. большинство вторжений, это вторжения к тем, кто не ожидают этого особенно на низких уровнях. Если придти в песочницу к детям и начать закидывать их песком или топтать их фигурки из песка, то можно назвать себя топовым песочным королем. Жалкое зрелище. Но такова игра, терпим/страдаем, учимся на ошибках.
You can always sleep with Chase to improve your RUclips Chanel.
munda money
you should play dragon ball z sparking zero
I missed the part where FromSoft's reputation and success was from invasion design but ok.
I mean you’re running around trying to kill 3 casters with a sunflower…… just use comet on the spammer and take one out quick.
Unpopular, but when i see a player who has a disrespectful playing style or behavior, i just turn off my internet.
For example, fighting someone at the colliseum and they don't make a formal greeting of any kind and just start spamming ashes of war and spells. If you don't respect me, i shouldn't have to respect you.
Disconecting from a match because someone didnt emote? Bro you are thr problem lmao how entitled can you be?
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Me when the guy didn't chain 3 emotes under 1.5 seconds (insta kill with hacks will follow)
Me when the guy didn't chain 3 emotes under 1.5 seconds (insta kill with hacks will follow)
@@eldenlean5221 very