HELLBOY II (2008) Nuada Kills His Father [HD] Guillermo del Toro
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First movie was a bit darker.... But this one has a beautiful touch of fantasy and fairy tales.... Gotta love this one. ❤️
Prince Nuada was a cool character.
Guillermo del toro are a bigest fantastic director 😃
Del Toro loves fairy tales that's for sure.
@@micahjohansson7573 his design for creatures are always great
@@ajayusspiritus6955 he's not afraid to embrace fantasy, the weird,whimsical,grotesque, and so fourth. Maybe he should've directed John Carter!
Nuada, the only dude who understands the pain of that time of the month.
I don't think the link between him and Nuala allows him to experience his sisters' monthly cramps, just injuries, sickness, and the occasional overexertions like that nosebleed.
@@Heraldo_Del_Mar lol over exertion? He was punched straight in the face
@@Heraldo_Del_Mar man don't ruin the joke
😂😂😂
So...does that mean any time the Nudada/Nualla twins had some alone time...
It's kinda hilarious that Nuada had included "shopping malls" in his "everything wrong with humanity" list.
😂🤣
Funny thing is most people I see at malls don't buy anything but just go around looking and walking lmao
He only had to wait for online shopping and a pandemic to kill them off.
I KNOW! He should have included TMZ better
He's not wrong.
A neat little detail is how the king smiles at Nuada. As if he accepts his fate of death by his own son's hands. It tells me that while the king disagrees with the path his son has chosen, he's proud that he's grown into a formidable warrior with an unshakable resolve.
Badass.
That's actually a great observation.
That's what I thought, but then why did nuada have to duck and slide under those two soldiers to kill him
@@natmanprime4295 Because they were gonna kill him
I always thought that smile was sarcastic. Like: "Come on, son! Kill me! But my death will not solve anything!"
@@natmanprime4295 Because it was their duty to fight and die for their king. The same way Nuada thought it was his duty to save his people. They could not be other than they were.
Luke Goss is seriously underrated as an actor. I would have loved to see him in more villain roles
it's crazy af to me that he's doing supporting roles in fucking steven seagal movies, this dude was so good in this and blade 2, really deserves better roles in better movies.
Sometime the talent is not recognised but it's earned
Straight up! He also played Jared Nomak in Blade 2 and did a phenomenal job showing his martial arts prowess!
@@Bowen_Windcalibur I'd like to see more of him myself...maybe Quentin Tarantino can cast him in his next film and reboot his career!
I want him to be cast to play Knull in the MCU if they do a symbiote invasion arc
When I first saw this movie I thought he was asking his sister if she was at peace with that verdict because he loved her and wanted her to be on his side. Now I realise that what he actually asked her was "are you ok with dying".
It might have been both actually
It's actually pretty nice to see that when he gets hurt the princess gets hurt. Which means she could've ended it all, but either way it was a decent movie
@@koreancowboy42 Yeah, if we're being super nitpicky a guard could have went for her instead, since killing one meant killing the other anyway.
@@smash3r01 I guess it's a principle thing, why make the innocent princess suffer from the strike when the prince is the one condemned?
@@koreancowboy42 I mean, she does end it all...after letting dozens of other people get killed in the ordeal haha.
The moment when the supposed villain is so cool that you love him more than all the protagonists combined.
I don't even think he's meant to be the villain in the end what's he really doing protecting his people, I mean quite honestly he has a point we've made nukes and many other horrid things that are destroying the earth, in end is he really wrong about humanity.
@@blacklighthologram5339 then antagonist would be a better term, not evil just in conflict with the main character.
Well he looked super cool and those action scenes were outstanding, super sharp/clear
indeed
Hell naw.
"Perhaps I am... Perhaps they made me so"
Such a good line
Using this one since sometime lol
I love how different these elves are. Not just humans with pointy ears. Look at their skin and eyes.
Basically old Folklore elves then, depends on which regions and countries tales some where the Elves were described as spirits of nature, small invisible hidden folks, mischievous trickster little jerk, tall monstrous malevolent that kidnapped babies and pregnant women or just sociopathic bullies that lure unsuspecting men or children. Also fun fact Goblin, trolls, elves are considered to be related since all of them are part of the fair folks of old.
@@longwlenguyen4214There are so many folktales of Elves snatching human children away into the woods with nothing ever found but neatly folded clothes and shoes.
@@Tempusverum The Faes and Elves were described either women with cow tails and hollowed out back, ghostly white skin creature even a Banshee can considered an Elf since the word Elves (depends on which Germanic language) literally mean “white”, “Evil Spirit”, “Nightmare” or “Old”. There also folktales about dwarves as black charcoal skin elves due to live in underground or maggots like race that crawl out of Ymir by Snorri description, similar and unlike their fantasy counterparts, the folklore dwarves were great blacksmith but their behaviour and personality in old folktales were as strange as the Folklore Elves and the Faes, they either looked insectoid like and spoke Norse languages with an otherworldly personality rather than the beer drinking, Scottish-accent hooligans with an axe. Folklore Elves and Dwarves felt so alien, elegant, dangerous, childlike, curious and so weird that they both can’t even compare to pop culture fantasy elves and dwarves that are just humans with long ears and short humans with beard.
It's crazy how in a movie full of supernatural beings, monsters, gods and other nonsense, the villain is the most sympathetic character, and he dies to exploits. Really wish he was given more time to shine, Nuada was awesome!
This type of antagonist is the best. You can understand his motivation, he’s really not evil and you find yourself rooting for him...and if he succeeded it would have been a satisfying ending.
Billions dead is not satisfying.
true, antagonist is best when there's a valid philosophy behind its motive.
@@gaelofariandel6747 well if they aims for some change, sacrifices are necessary.
@@bitflipped5337 wonder if you agreee knowing that YOU could be one of the ones sacrified...
@@zanir2387 well that's fine, I don't care anymore. We don't matter.
Nuada: I despise human.
Also Nuada: Speaks human language when talking to his native tribe.
Must be his way of internalizing the genocide he's about to commit
I like to think this was translated and dubbed for us to understand.
How long did you expect them to go on talking jbberish? I think all sane people understood he is meant to be talking in his language. People like you who try to be funny and just sound stupid are so irritating.
@@martineshamzin7535 jibberish? Don't be racist, lol. Don't be so triggered by the prospect of more subtitles. And no, there's no reason to believe he's speaking in his own language, since not everyone speaking is getting dubbed into english that must signify that they are speaking different languages. Probably he's speaking english for emphasis, or his father is refusing to speak english for emphasis, or both.
its supposed to show that he DID try and make an effort. That while he is determined, he wasnt too proud to try and make the truce work. he lived underground. in sewers like vermin. its been centuries maybe even millenia and he never struck before. He understands the concept behind parking lots and shopping malls he obviously knows the infrastructure of humans infinitely more than humans bothered to remember the elves. Im not surprised that he spoke english. hes not evil, he doesnt even hate humans he jsut sees them as weak and prioritizing their survival is pointless when weighted against immortals.
Nuada is perhaps my favorite villain of all time. We finally get someone who has a point and I remember thinking "well, I would probably do the same if they were killing my people." I love Hellboy but Luke Goss stole every scene he was in.
Everyone will agree with him until it's their turn to die.
Nuada is one of our hero's from mythology, Balor was known as the evil eye..
Couldn't agree more, as much as I loved the first film I thought this one was much better and he was a big part of why.
'well, I would probably do the same if they were killing my people'
Nuada's plan is to genocide Humanity, humanity who by and large don't even know his people exist. Don't you see the irony of 'well, I would probably do the same if they were killing my people' because that is exactly how many Humans would feel when some hidden people come out of nowhere and start murdering every man, woman and child they can get their hands on?
Nuada has a point about "greed has burned hole in mans heart"
3:30 i love this part. he doesn't immediately look towards his father. He looks down and spins the swords as if he's confirming his resolve.
2:14 When he asks his sister if she’s okay with him dying, since they are linked, he’s basically asking her if she’s at peace with dying. She says yes, and immediately he finds that unacceptable because he won’t allow her to die, so he looks down like, “now I have to kill everyone, because I won’t let you die” Savage
They both are linked that's why sibling
I mean, when you devolve from living in the beautiful wilderness to hiding in the remains of the cold, heartless industry that looks like sewers. I have to say, Nuada has a point.
yep can not blame him this is no way to live how can they be Ok with it and how can his sister be OK with fading away?
I find this movie to be funny since they actually did make peace treaties and contracts with the supernatural realm. The contracts in which are ending so you’ll actually start seeing them more
Cool set tho
@@senpailee1967 Wait can you elaborate? Who's "they"? It may be who I have in mind but I just need to confirm. Also, how do you know the contracts are ending?
Interesting that even then they've tried to beautify their surroundings with the flower petals constantly falling on the court in the sewer.
I legit was on Nuada's side during this whole movie. He just wants his people to remain in existence and not to be snuffed out like a distant memory. The fact that his father became so damn complacent with the idea of dying out slowly over time one could understand his rage. To watch the society you once defended with your life basically giving up on itself for almost no reason. Even with all of that you can tell he doesn't want to kill his father, but essentially given no choice.
Reminds some of us of something we've noticed in Real Life
Agreed I would gladly join him, humanity knows no bound.
@@stevekillgore9272 It’s not the end. We’ve faced worse.
@@stevekillgore9272 Last I checked human population was still growing and prospering, so no it's nothing like real life.
@@gutsblackswordsman4707 Agreed,we are a souless species, we do not respect anything but money and power.
I love Guillermo's style. The costumes in this are so much like the ones in Pan's Labyrinth. Beautiful / creepy at the same time. I hope he decides to create his own universe / story with his style of story telling / costuming
That's because Guillermo del Toro also directed Pan's Labyrinth... Sadly, it is unknown if he will continue the franchise due to the reason many studios consider the production for Hellboy 3 to be expensive...
@@georgeafg9252 I think he knew that pan's labyrinth is from Guillermo del Toro.. Lol
The prince’s costume looks like it was inspired by Assassins creed
He has a whole universe call tales of arcadia start with troll hunters ,3 below , wizzards , and theres a movie coming out
Now that you mention it, marathoning the Guillermo Cinematic Universe for a whole weekend sounds like an incredibly satisfying experience. Let's hope our world hasn't crushed that dream at least :)
I like what Del Toro did with elves, Prince Nuada is EXACTLY how an elf fights, elegant, dextrous, fast and effective, like a scalpel.
King Balor standing up and smiling as he embraces his coming end with head held high always gets to me. Very dignified and solemn, almost as if its a relief.
I always read it as he respected his son for his conviction despite disagreeing with his position, & was glad his death was coming at the hand of someone he loved, + for a reason. That he himself wasn't going to suffer the indignity of "fading away",
"So, what were you doing during millennia of exile?"
'LEVELLING UP!'
Guy walks into royal hall with people around him, petals falling, stabs his father (the king).
That's some major Arthas vibes...
That’s so true
Succeeding u father.
Silver hair,handsome ..yeah, sure Arthas
He should have directed the WC movie.
He could be the Arthas in Warcraft sequels bad thing is no more Warcraft sequel...
This scene is my favorite simply because of the choreography of the fight. Shows Nuada as a force to be reckoned with.
I miss the stories where the Prince was one of the baddest dudes out there, earned in combat, honor and royal blood...a Prince would LEAD his armies into battle and show no lack of courage and concern for his men.
@Shirou Kotomine I don't remember much of their fight, but i think he actually beat that dumbass Hellboy, albeit struggling. His sister, recognizing he won, made harakiri to stop him since they were bound together, killing both.
Indeed, Luke had an excellent stuntman!
@@nlac73 Damian Walters is one of the stuntmen, absolute incredible professional free-runner.
Rite all by himself. Lol
Interesting thing about Nuada is that, other than two or three lines, all of his dialogue is in English. He's also shown to be something of a mechanic. During his time in exile, he's become far more like the modern humans that he seeks to destroy than he would ever care to admit.
Nuada claims to be the most loyal to his heritage, but he is the only one speaking English in this scene from the start.
His sister only switches to respond to him.
I like that detail. He’s acting more human when he seeks war, even though it’s humans he hates
It also has to do with him being exiled for such a long time not needing to speak his language to others because its a dying language with his people. One of my favorite movie villains ever introduced.
This scene is beautiful. He wasn’t just fighting for his life. But for his sister’s.
He was forced to fight for the life he wished for his people but it was not his life they wanted. Nuada was blinded by his hatred, and his wish for his people not to die out, refusing to see that he was expediting their extinction. By revealing his existence to humans, breaking the pact - he destroyed his family and most likely what remained of his kingdom shortly after
The actor himself, Luke Goss, never ever got a chance to playa descent role in an A movie .. guy's got skills. Shame ..
It's because he's too cool and would outshine everyone else. Same thing with the guy that played Rico in Starship Troopers. Most chiseled jaw in the history of movies.
To get A movies, you have to proviude, uh, "services" to the director, producer etc in general. Hollyweird is corrupt to its bones, and its been that way since the '30 and only going worse with age.
@@olisk-jy9rz **punches olisk** "no-one talks about the lieutenant that way!!"
If you haven't seen it, the hallmark frankenstein starting luke goss as the creature is uncharacteristically well made.
One Night with the King, he literally plays the King. x'D The title character save for the female lead.
Masterful acting by Luke Goss as Prince Nuada! Great mix of compassion and ruthlessness.
💯 the fact this man got to play Nuada & Jared Nomak 🔥🔥
Man what a fuckin missed opportunity. Prince Nuada is seriously one of the dopest characters ever. Not only is the actor insanely underrated but they could have made a Prince Nuada stand alone film and it would have done better than any of the new Hellboy movies.
I like the way the elf king prepares for death, standing with a smile and a welcoming gesture. Maybe he is very old to fight and wants to die in this way, or maybe he doesn’t want to personally raise a hand against his son, knowing deep down in his heart that his son is right, but the word of the elf king cannot be broken and only the death of the elf king releases from the oath.
I miss the days of reals sets and costumes these days everything is cg and blue screens
What matters is direction and purpose, the newest Hellboy movie had no sense of mythology they just threw things at the wall with horror elements, using cgi could have worked but there was no beauty in the monsters like Del Toro has done for these movies
@@kennethsatria6607 Yes. Couldn't have said it better. The issue is not simply what they use but also how and why. And too often, today they use familiar answers without knowing what questions they asked in the first place.
The technology is not ready yet to simply overtake the whole process and there is a true beauty in seeing a set that is real in our day and age.
Did you know that no cgi was used for the desolation of smaug. That was just forced perspective and benedict cumberbatch in a dragon costume
@@Helpsnekgettosubspls Hey now that's a good example of a proper executed CGI creature, maybe also Peter Jackson's Kong. They're CGI but were truly characters
This movie wasn't made that long ago.
The puppets look so freaking real. It's amazing. Everyone always talks about computer generated images. Yet the coolest sfx scenes are always those with tons of latex and foam.
Practical effects will always trump over cgi.
Nothing beats practical effects when used right
Practical effects plus cgi is the way.
True. I prefer handmade effects with cgi in a supporting role
Sad thing is he’s not “completely” wrong
yes,truth
When you relate to the "villain" then you the dialogue, story, and acting is done well!
Completely? Where was he wrong?
sad but true
Yeah... It true.... But not everyone is bad. But yeah. I do agree I hate the fact people tear apart forests and nature to build
The antagonist himself was such a good character, he was just a warrior trying to secure the future of his people so that they may not be forgotten in the sand. However even hellboy felt bad for him knowing your the only outsider amongst billions and yet he fights for them knowing they’ll hate him for it, this movie was fantastic if only Guillermo del toro had done the third one it would been something.
@@Riorozentrue but even tho hellboy wanted recognition the fame would’ve made him selfish and made his relationship with lizz and abe complicated I’m glad the movie went into the direction it took.
he was trying to make hellbot 3 but nobody would back it up in time and ronn pearlman was getting old so it ended up not happening.
nah, most likely hellboy felt but for him, because he knew the prince had less than zero chances, in a war with humanity. he was full of himself and very uninformed because he spent millenia in exile, and yet he still hasn't learn anything about humans. the truce was not the only reason why the rest of the creatures went to live underground. nice story, but there was no option when they come on top in a war.
True
I think the old king could not break his word. That was the little smile from the king near the end , pride in his son and acceptance.
I always like to believe the Hellboy universe Elves are descendants of the Tolkien Elves that survived into Modern times.
Yeah but they look different ,even though the beards are canon like Cirdan
@@ThranduilCalaquendi actually the Hellboy Elves are Celtic race called Aos Si meaning Fae they are more like unseen spirits and earth, nature and river like while Tolkien Elves are more Nordic called "Hidden folk" and they are more human like, some are taller than human or as small as a Smurfs, the small Nordic elf are invisible and live in underground or caves while the tall one are forest dwellers.
I always picture Nuada as an evil Legolas
@@XGrantLorraineX without bow and arrow
yes
Everytime he talks you can hear the pain in his voice.
I can feel his pain. That`s how i feel about what mankind has become.
@@anteroapina1853 Yeah since Nuada people are dying and the mystical creatures are slowly wither away I guess that could piss him off since he's the heir to the throne of the Elves and the Fair Folks but yet he hopelessly watching his people fading away to dust, mourn for his beautiful ancient kingdom crumble without pride or honor or respect, while witnessing mankind out of greed and vanity continue to wreak havoc upon mother nature like we own the world.
@@longwlenguyen4214 And same time i admire his great fighting skills and when No words are left, he just decimates his enemy, no matter how close one is.
@@anteroapina1853 Yup that's why I liked about Nuada not only he's a prince but also one of the ancient mystical species on Earth, he not only ruthless but cunning, elegance and style, he talked like a Noble with valor and grace even in anger, the way Nuada fight as if he was dancing to the tune of his spear, he may talked like human but there's nothing "human" about him, the power of show don't tell that lacks in many Hollywood villians these days, I wish we have more villains like Nuada because villains like that made us look small and insignificant little creatures, even the Del Toro Elves are interesting they are not hippies forest dwellers like those sterile fantasy genre, they are alien but there's a strange aura of beauty behind it, they could fight like playing musical instruments, made miracles with metal works and rich craftsmanship, the Elves in Hellboy does have industry but they respect mother nature, ironically the dwarves in mythology are considered just another species of Elves or the Fair Folk, it's kinda funny despite Del Toro doesn't show much of the Elves race or culture but I have already learned more about them from their clothing to looks, to speaks, to weapons, to the simple strange mechanism that Nuada tinkering, and ancient ruin Elves city, that's what made them different from other generic elf fantasy genres.
@@longwlenguyen4214 In my perspective he is not even enemy or villain but hero i would join without blinking an eye.. My kind of elf💪
The prince is beautiful. I love his character so much.
ill be your prince. message me
@@nickclark18
Gross
@@nickclark18 Cringed
*rips out the heart* Kneel
@@nickclark18bro that cringe was epic to read 😂
I always loved that Nuada is ordered to surrender his weaponry to approach the court of the king, but they allow Wink, a muscled, steel-fisted behemoth of a troll, to also enter the chamber even if behind Nuada. Loved that humorous little detail.
Prince Nuada was the closest we ever got to a live action Drizzt Do'Urden. Deadly elegance. Best thing about the movie.
I would absolutely root for him playing Drizzt in a movie. :D
@@AeonSaint You know, I think I agree with you on this.
Who is that?
@@FallenOne669 If you're asking who Drizzt is, he's a popular Dungeons & Dragons character written by R.A. Salvatore.
@@tempestates13 His origins are actually in Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. The first 2 trilogies are awesome.
And yes, I'm an old school DM, I still have a campaign running on Fantasy Grounds.
I started playing 30 years ago and have been DM for 25 years now. :)
I just realized, if the guards had been successful and killed him...his sister would have died as well right?
Yes.
I think that's why he asks her if she agrees with their father's sentencing him to die, he was essentially sentencing his daughter to die as well, Nuala knew it and was willing to die right then and there for the good of mankind, it foreshadows her sacrifices later in the movie
@@VictoriaTraducciones so why didn't they just kill her instead.
@@hafiz7581 it would have ruined the movie lol
@@hafiz7581 as if the prince would let them do that.
Why the hell did they reboot this saga? They could have continued the series
Guillermo del Toro wanted to continue the saga, and he already had the script for a third installment of the movies. But all the studios Guillermo spoke to felt his project was too expensive, and rejected Guillermo's offer. With time, the studios opted for a cheaper reboot. Which sucks since Guillermo's Hellboy movie-verse was great, it was mystically beautiful due to his great use of practical effects and stages on it, and it actually had a story that felt fluent and followed the mythology well since he actually knew, and did what actually matters to have a great film: great direction and purpose. Unlike the new Hellboy reboot which simply threw things to the wall with horror elements here and there, had no sense of mythology, and got filled with action, and a senseless story that satisfied the masses with an IQ lower than a flea. Using CGI could have worked out, but there was no beauty, no mystical mythological feel, and no fluent story that Guillermo del Toro had done on his films.
the reboot hellboy looked terrable
@@zeokingsilver u mean shitable
@@georgeafg9252 well said
@@zeokingsilver liked the idea of nimue tho
Last Jedi : Our Red royal guard scene was the best fight .
Hellboy 2 : we did it first . And better .
The choreography in the red guard fight is horrible.
Nobody thinks the Last Jedi fight scene is the best.
@@jackbaxter2223 it’s the best thing in that WHOLE movie. I can’t watch anything else of that movie.
Please don’t start an argument about which movie is better. We’re here to watch The Golden Army, Not Star Wars 8.
It was plagiarized from "Ella Enchanted", to boot! I only noticed this because of my wife wanting me to watch it with her, but the details are lined up perfectly!
Dear Forgotten Realms - cast this man as Drizzt Do'Urden and give us something to be excited to return to the cinemas again.
I remember seeing this in the theater. Great movie. I didn't realize it until now that when he asks "how about you sister? Are you at peace with your kings decision?" Was her accepting death herself in that moment. I remember thinking he was asking that in a way, "are you cool with our father wanting me dead?".
I'd actually be interested in seeing Guillermo del Toro's take on a Warhammer film. Be it Fantasy or 40K.
Oh my god...
I want to see it
I think he is the only one at hollywood than would do it justice.
@@Eviligniter he definitely did Hellboy justice
Only he has the chops to pull off a Warhammer movie that could rival Lord of the Rings trilogy.
There is a guy on youtube who did a 5 part series on 40K called astartes. Maybe you've heard of it?
2:20 that little foreshadowing of " are you ok with this desicion sister, becose if i die you die aswell" and her sister just accepting it immediatly, the king looked so devastated becose he knew he would have to pretty much execute the bad apple and the good apple at the same time
A little like Dark Crystal there
The bad apple was the sister.
the fact that his sister confirms she is "at peace" with her king's verdict is also moving after knowing what we learn later that they're both connected. such a good film, much better than then newest one =)
We don't talk about the newest one
@@jaleesagreene6800 David Harbour PRETENDED not to give a shit whereas Ron perlman LIVES like he doesn't give a shit.
2:34 I love that scene where his friend starts fighting with him like “I got you” and he turns around. “Then very well, death it is” Nuada was such a bad ass. !
Luke Goss and Guillermo Del Toro are pure gold together. Goss was great in Blade II and he is absolutely fantastic here. They need to make another sequel to a well-received superhero adaptation and make that material sing. My vote is for a Del Toro directed Dredd II.
That's what makes this scene beautiful. He wasn't fighting for his life, but for hers. I think it's the reason when his nose bled, he wiped it clean, spun the swords around balancing himself perfectly at the top of his game to not let a single scratch reflect on his sister. I think that's why the father stood up, smiling, maybe even proud. I strongly believe Nuada was the real protagonist of the movie, and the red monkey club the villains. Comedic plot armor saved "Hellboy" from being utterly destroyed by this ruthlessly efficient warrior, driven by his unconditional love for his sister. THAT would be poetic justice. Not the ending they contrived in the movie.
actually the Prices sister explains in the movie that both her and her brother are twins and are connected to each other telepathically and physically feel each others pain.
You can even see him get angry when he saw Nuala was bleeding as well. He was reminded if he dies his sister dies too. Which truly makes the kings actions unforgivable. To sacrifice an innocent child to protect a long broken truce
Red Monkey Club lmfao
lol what? Do you have any idea on how ridiculous you sound right now? There was no "cOmeDic PlOt aRMoR" at all as Hellboy won against Nuada in a logical manner that made sense as Nuada's sister was entirely against everything he was doing, there WAS NO "cOnTriVeD eNdInG" AT ALL that's just the nonsense that you're saying right now nor is there any "uNcOndItioNaL lOVe fOR hIs sISTer" at all, this is ALL in your end because your out of touch with reality for your obsession with this warrior prince here. He WAS fighting for himself and maybe his sister but he clearly didn't care about what she thought as he was putting his her life in danger for her own sake. Nothing abot what you said was "PoeTIC JustICe", Nuala stabbing herself WAS actually poetic justice because she knew that her brother needed to be stopped no matter what ansd her ending her own life to do so WAS poetic justice in the RIGHT way.
Your obsession with Nuada is just plain obnoxious as well just plain terrible, seriously JUST stop, you have NO idea on what you're saying as Nuada isn't the "ReaL protAgONIst oF thE moVIE" at all, he's the villain protagonist with understandable reasons for WHY he does what he does and that's what makes him a great character, NOT any of the nonsense you're saying here.
Just no. There was no "comedic Plot armor" at all as Hellboy won against Nuada in a logical manner that made sense as Nuada's sister was entirely against everything he was doing, there WAS NO "contrived ending" AT ALL that's just the nonsense that you're saying right now nor is there any "unconditional love for his sister" at all, this is ALL in your end because your out of touch with reality for your obsession with this warrior prince here. He WAS fighting for himself and maybe his sister but he clearly didn't care about what she thought as he was putting his her life in danger for her own sake. Nothing abot what you said was "poetic Justice", Nuala stabbing herself WAS actually poetic justice because she knew that her brother needed to be stopped no matter what ansd her ending her own life to do so WAS poetic justice in the RIGHT way.
Your obsession with Nuada is just plain obnoxious as well just plain terrible, seriously JUST stop, Nuada isn't the "real protagonist of the movie" at all, he's the villain protagonist with understandable reasons for WHY he does what he does and that's what makes him a great character, NOT any of the nonsense you're saying here.
It’s funny how he says "Shopping Malls!"Like they are absolute proof that humans are evil.
He had just listened to that song that said they *"paved paradise and put up a parking lot."*
it was more a '' they destroyed the world... for that ''
Он имел ввиду что люди вырубили леса чтобы построить эти центры
The Shoppings Malls are absolute proof that humans are evil. If you knew how shopping malls operate, the philosophy behind them, and how the goods and services they provide are produced and where they come from, you would see it.
But then again, you wouldn't wave the flag of the shopping mall empire then, would you?
It was about greed
Fun fact. Nuada is Nomak from blade. That actor is so great when he performs broken royalty.
Damn...didnt know that. That's why Nomak was such a good villain.
Nuala is so beautiful. Best depiction of elf/otherworldly race in all cinema.
Luke Goss should get more roles nowadays. He always deliver memorable performances whenever he gets the chance!
He’s so underrated
"What is this? What are you doing, my son?" "Succeeding you...father."
This kingdom shall fall
3:37 The king knew his son can succeed in killing him, so he smile, awaiting his death
*He actually agree with his son's perspective, but because the King values honor so he could not break the ancient truce in front of his people.
0:48 how The King's agree with his son's reasoning, hes nodding
yeah I noticed myself he does admit his son has a point but feels they will become as bad as humans if they do things his sons way but how is the way they living any way to live. Once they lived freely now they live like vermin
the truce was broken by humans long ago when they forgot it nad started taking everything
I'm not sure if the King so much agreed with Nuada as opposed to knowing that he was right, but he still could not bring himself to condone what Nuada wanted to do. At the end, the King could see that his guards could not defeat Nuada, and that his own death was inevitable. As alluded to in their earlier conversation, he knew that his time, and the time of the elves, was over, and he went to his end with dignity, perhaps trying to leave a final example for Nuada.
This is actually a story that's played out countless times before in Earth's history. Untold hundreds, maybe thousands, of species have lived and died and gone extinct when conditions were no longer right for them, or when they got outcompeted by another rival. The philosophy of the elves was that since their end was inevitable, there was no point in shedding blood trying to postpone their extinction. The King would rather die remaining true to the beliefs and ideals of his people, than for them to become like the humans, even if doing so hastened their end. It makes you wonder how we would behave, millions of years in the future, when the Earth is changed enough that it's no longer an ideal home for us. Would we want to remain as we are, or would we try to change ourselves, through methods like cybernetic augmentation or genetic mutation, to the point where we might not even look human anymore, to be able to continue to thrive in a new world?
;)
I wish Prince Nuada had his own movie.
When he started finghting with two swords wearing black leather armor I thought it was Drizzt Do'Urdon.
Drizzt Do’Urden. Ninth House of Menzoberranzan.
love the color, tone and fight of this scene. Like the Fall...a time of death and passing of the torch
0:46
Even Nuada's father agrees to what he's saying even though he's still honoring the truce with the humans.
only humans have forgotten and broken the truce he has no reason to do this fallow it
*"To honor the Truce is Ours..."*
I heard the King say Covid in this part. Timestamp: 0:55
I would actually follow Nuada to battle. He is goddamn right!
About humans having a hole in the heart, when you look at how modern society works especially politically absolutely, i’m completely on his side.
Also Given The Fact His People Were Driven Underground By Humanity
Me too... I hate what mankind has become. Greed, dishonorable money serving assholes.
Giggity giggity
Me too humans have been trashing the earth for centuries
The action choreography in this movie is stellar, even by today’s standards.
The way he spins the swords at 3:30 So badass.
Such an awesome, under-rated movie!
I always loved the sound of their language, even though we only got a bit of it. And I love the way the princess has no hesitation in answering that she is at peace with her brother's (and her) death. Just something about all of it very stately and courtly, Greco-mythic, an Old World romance, drama and tragedy.
I literally saw this movie several times in theaters just because I fell head-over-heels in love with Prince Nuada.
I can totally agree, everything about him is on point
This movie has a beautiful touch of fantasy and fairy tales... Made me watch it several times ❤️🧝🤴👸🧚
I am still in love with him. Lol. 😅
I have Hellboy 1 and 2 on DVD.
I fell in love with both Abe and Nuada. Makes me just wanna be Nuala so I can have them both lol
One of my most favourite villains. He moves like a movie ghost
Was he really a villain? I love his character because he didn't want warrantless destruction of humans, but freedom and returned nobility of his own people. He was a honorable knight with the highest of principles to his death.
He's not a villain! humankind is villain because he do not respect nature and animal species
@@charlesinoakland1206 I'm with you on this. If anything, he's like a tragic hero. His path just put him at odds with the main characters and that was the source of the movie's conflict.
08 was the summer of villains and nuada came out of nowhere. I was so impressed by goss and hellboy 2
This movie made me realize how perfect Luke Goss would be as Drizzt Do'Urden.
I was so obsessed with this movie as a kid (still love it as an adult lol). Everything about it is amazing.
This whole movie was great, I wish they got a third movie. Also Nuada is an all time favorite villain of mine, He was so cool and well acted and written. His warrior code, and the way he still says "sir" in the auction scene as he speaks even among what he considers insults. He accepts a warriors challenge to fight Hellboy. Even if kind of forced. Plus them sharing pain with a "good" and "bad" duality is really fun.
Praise Guillermo del Toro for making the best fantasy movies in history 🙌
Did anyone know the actor who plays Nuada is the same guy who plays as Nomac in blade 2
He was one of the BROS twins that had a heap of hits in the late 80's.
His name is Luke Goss 💕
Luke Goss has a twin brother Matt, they were pop stars in the late 80s, Bros-( Luke is a drummer as well)
@Livyatan mellvillei because both films were directed by Guillermo del toro.
Back in 08 I saw resemblance and looked it up. Sho nuff and its *nomak
I become a fan of luke goss after watching him portray Nuada in Hellboy II and Nowak in Blade II. Too bad he didnt have any more roles like this under guillermo del toro.
Nuada has to be one of the most sympathetic villains I've ever seen. I always feel like crying when he fussed the police dogs....his people had no quarrel with animals. Just humans. And sadly...we have earned that kind of contempt.
Every role Luke Goss portrays, he's phenomenal. The emotion, the commitment! Even when he's the villain you gotta support him.
I mean he wasn't wrong
The prince has my support. We're destroying this planet because of greed.
I know right, parking lot is a worst part of all
@First Name Last Name Exactly. With the most Earth polluting country being communist
@First Name Last Name nope, more like culling the human race according to the prince. 7 billion is far too many, disregard for tradition and the planet is far too commonplace.
A little death will do well to scare the fear of God into humans.
@@lausleber2748 The USA is a communist? lol
for gods sakes someone give this guy a lightsaber!!
Shit yea! He’s make a damn good Jedi or sith
@@vexjaeger4314 Sith Please....
This deserves more likes
@@vexjaeger4314 sith or member of enternal empire, he clearly based his goal on revenge and rage
I am tempted to edit a lightsaber on him now 🤣🤣🤣
3:29 always love the way he spin those swords
He reminds me to Prince Zuko.
this was like 10x more epic than most movies past 2012....... when he said "we will NOT fade...." i beleived astounding acting and astounding set. shoulda won awards i dunno if it did but it should have. beautiful set btw.
Few sequels are as good as the original. This was well done. A good villain is someone the audience can identify with. A interesting story and original. A fine comic book movie. Great action sequences. Beginning to End.
Yes...he says shopping malls. But then again......the Trolls market was....basically a shopping mall. He’s an E-bay kinda guy.
You know what's interesting about Hellboy's villains? The ones from the original movies that is, they're portrayed as "human" villains. Rasputin and Nuada were not like evil incarnate villains. They were capable of love and they were turned to villainy because of the pain and injustice they suffered. And even after choosing to be evil, they still loved someone (For Rasputin it was Ilsa, for Nuada it was his father and sister) They're villains who you can understand. You don't condone their actions and you know what they're doing is wrong so you root against them but you understand their reasoning for what they did so you sympathize with them. That's very interesting and poetic and it's how a lot of bad people are. I mean yeah there are those who are evil incarnate but then there are those who were lead down the wrong path because of hurt and injustice, and you feel so sad for those people when they fail to get back to the light.
Rasputin and Kroenen have always been evil, they're litteraly nazis and eldritch cultists who want to bring their lovcraftian deity to earth
They are very good bad guys but not tragic ones
What's wrong about what Nuada says here? How on Earth is he a villain?
@@enekaitzteixeira7010 Well he does want to wipeout the human race.
@@enekaitzteixeira7010kinda late,but he wanted to raise immortal army to wipe out humans, literally.
Like I get his point, but his ways is just wrong.
Nuada: I want to reclaim the land that was once, and still is ours.
Nuala and the rest of those cretins: nah, we're busy going the way of the dodo here.
You meant nuala's father
Story sounds familiar for some reason.
Dodos died out because their single population was hunted to extinction.
Like they had never once interacted with humans or dogs, so they got wiped out verrry fast.
Luke Goss was incredible in this movie
In the time it took for Prince Nuada to slay the remaining eight members of the Royal Guard, Mr Wink the Troll was still just having fun brutalising the other two.
I love the set design in this scene.. an abandoned factory used as throne room showing how far the Bethmora clan had fallen..
I feel sorry him, he was just looking out for his people.
He was needlessly drawing attention to his people and pulling them into a war that would have many deaths on both sides. He is even responsible for putting a number of endangered creatures in danger to achieve what he wants. Had he not done what he did, many lives would not have been lost.
@@trebot9292266 wars always have death on all sides.
@@zeokingsilver that was my point buddy. as in he's putting his own people at risk and hurting his own people.
@@trebot9292266 he was trying to wage war and wars can not be done without sacrifice and most likely was like if your not with me you are against me and with the humans and believed was no other choice
In our world he would be called nazi or worse for speaking up on behalf of his people good
Still one of my all time favorite baddies and one of the most sympathetic in my opinion
Miss this kind of movies back in the day. Always excited when watching these
Racial consciousness is understanding that Nuada was the hero all along
Wink the type of homie who's literally got your back no matter what
And died for him...
Imagine the maintenance guy who comes to check a valve and find a bunch of elves during a solemn summit.
I really sided with Nuada and his arguments. Why were they forced to live in the shadows while humans kept destroying everything, especially in that part where Hellboy kills that huge tree creature and saves the baby and everyone turns on him calling him a monster.
Nuada was a proud prince who just wanted to live freely like the humans. He wanted his people to be free.
Nuada has made a point" greed has burned a hole in mans heart" and he's 100% right.
This is probably my favorite antagonist of all time.
I demand a movie all about Prince Nuada during his exile.
One of the few movies where the sequel was better than the original, I'm not saying the original was bad, far from it I loved it but THIS.....THIS was fucking awesome!
When watching this the first time, I was hoping that Nuada would survive and become an ally of Hellboy & co. He was the perfect foil for Hellboy's childish and rather Americana persona. They would make a great team along with Abe and his girl. Oh well... what dreams may come...
Old is gold ! Still can't believe 13 years have passed 🙌
Being a guy with long hair is frustrating. I can't even do my job with my hair loose and this guy is out here killing guards and his father with out a single "time out, let me tie up my hair...anyone got a scrunchie or some hairpins?"
2:15 Prince Nuada asks his sister if she is okay with the verdict. Princess Nuala agrees which means it will also spell her doom if her brother dies. She was always prepared to die.
This guy new Covid was coming so he wasnt worried 0:57
LOL