The "beast" is heavily implied to be Guzzlord since they already have very similar design patterns and are located in basically the exact same cave systems as hinted by James Turner I believe
Yveltal - The eagle at the peak of Yggdrasil Xerneas - The four Stags representing the four seasons at the base of Yggdrasil Zeraora - Rattatoskr, the messenger Squirrel that runs up and down Yggdrasil Zygarde 10% - Fenrir Zygarde 50% - Jormungandr Zygarde 100% - Hel There is 1 more creature associated with Yggdrasil aside from the tree itself, the Dragon that gnaws on its roots and send and receives insulting messages from the Eagle at the top of the tree. The dragons name in mythology is Nidhoggr.
I have to say, for a creature that's supposed to bring about Ragnarok and destroy the world, being represented by a pokemon with 480 BST is kind of underwhelming
@Zimzky91 true, and there are other Norse wolves it could have been based off of, Garmr is Hel's hound, then there are Hati and Skoll. Of the four though, Fenrir is the only one that's another child of Loki, which Zygarde's forms seem to represent.
@oucyan he has two other children as well, Narfi/Nari and Vali. Hel, Jormungandr, and Fenrir are the children of Loki and his first wife, the giantess Angrboda. Narfi and Vali were his sons to his second wife, the goddess Sigyn And as you said Sleipnir, which is the only of his children he himself gave birth to. It would be nice to see a Sleipnir inspired Pokémon, with how many diggerent types of horses there are, I'm surprised we don't have more. The Rapidash and A.Rapidash lines, Mudsdales line, Glastrier and Spectrier, Zebstrika's line, and then Keldeo.
What is actually crazy is ttar way back in the day made a video predicting pokemon Z about this exact concept. He predicted it way back then and it actually was a scrapped concept that’s insane.
There's still evidence in the games that Zygard was supposed to take down Xerneas and Yveltal. Thousand Arrows was made to damage flying types and and if the Y form was supposed to have rocket launchers, calling them arrows is a good way of fantasizing it a little. Its is weird his only dragon signature move can't hit fairy types, but Thousand Waves does sound like a move made for a predator since it prevents the user from escaping (Also Aura Break is a thing, but that was obvious from the start)
If Zygard's original ability was linked to inverse battles then I could make sense as core enforcer would be super effective to Xerneas and all the ground signature moves would be super effective to Yveltal, maybe thousand arrows having the smack down effect was added after scrapping Pokemon Z.
I mean, Scrappy allows Normal & Fighting Type moves to hit Ghost Type Pokemon, so just give one of Zygarde's forms that sort of ability but involving Fairies. Scrappy is even Mega Lopunny's ability, so an ability like that is borderline perfect.
The beast zygarde was supposed to fight was probably guzzlord, since if i remember correctly, you find guzzlord where zygarde is supposed to be and it also lines up with lore correctly since guzzlord's whole thing is eating the ecosystem
i read the ultra ruin lore yesterday (first time playing sm/usum), and the problem of that world was the power plant, guzzlords existed before the power plant incident and humans were fine with them, in my opinion i think guzzlord is just eating, or maybe helping to clean the world?
If Zygarde is eager to fight an Ultra Beast, could that be Guzzlord? Guzzlord's design looks suspiciously derived from Perfect Zygarde. And it's the only Ultra Beast you can find in a place that actually looks like a parallel timeline. There has to be something about Guzzlord that made him more significant than other UBs. Whatever that was got scrapped, of course. But its design was kept and GameFreak just wouldn't acknowledge that Guzzlord looks like Zygarde.
SM takes place 2 years after XY which takes place at the same time of B2W2, so making a timeline based on beta ideals hits different Also LGPE takes place years after Red & Blue per a time lag of events with Mina’s age in SM being the glue that sticks in reverse
They probably retconned BWs position in the timeline to happen way earlier, since we for example also have Colress' appearence in USUM basically confirming it takes place after BW2, which itself happened 2 years after BW. The timeline is still a bit rough, since that only gives us 6 years between DP and SM, but if we say XY and BW2 happen around the same time (as I think another timeline form around the time of ORAS implied) then this should still work out. Also I still think XY-remakes should be called ZX and ZY (referencing plains in a coordinate system), and the idea that Zygarde was supposed to have alternate forms to combat Xerneas and Yveltal kinda just perfectly molds into that.
That checks out: RBY + RSE - 11 years old DPPt + GS - 14 years old BW - 16 years old BW2 + XY - 18 years old SuMo - 20 years old If I remember correctly, the concept art for grimsley stated that he is 2 years older than in BW2. That would mean the time gap between DP and BW are 2 years.
That whole bit of what happens in the scrapped pokemon Z can always be revisited by Game Freak. So it could be that Zygarde simply has 2 mega evolution or something similar to that like a lot of us have theorized before. Its funny cause i sent him an abbysal ruins lore theory when that leak surfaced. I think it was a rough timeline of the ancient pokemon world.
Fun fact, we do not actually know what happens to Lysandre after the events at the climax of Pokemon X/Y, it’s theorised that Lysandre was made immortal after the ultimate weapon’s beam struck the Team Flare Base, trapping him under the rubble. Maybe he could’ve used some of the technology that was left over from the Ultimate Weapon and incorporated into his strange arm and back machinery he had in his last battle. He would obviously be wanting revenge if he ever climbed out of the rubble and would’ve most likely been drove into insanity, he could use this reverse engineered UW tech and be hellbent on trying to massacre the people and pokemon of kalos by himself and therefor Zygarde might have to take on an even greater form than it’s 100% form due to the severity of the situation. (Ik this plot would never happen in a pokemon game, not at least a 7+ game but I like the idea of it.)
Actually the 2 forms of Zygarde might be saying that it got new mechanical forms along with its original forms after Lysandre's experiments on it which you could battle in final battle against Lysandre that's the only thing I could think of to make sense of it
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not early versions per se but iterations. When you create concept art you make iterations and usually get enough peer feedback to decide on the best design to bring into another stage of concept creation, it could be the scrapped ones are the first iterations that they then made multiple versions based on that design and these designs we got are the chosen iterations, that’s why the therians don’t look all that different to the official ones
The timeline is fairly easy RBG/RSE are the start Around 3 years Later, GSC Take place, and DP-Pt around the same range because of how DP tie in the Lake of Rage at the start during the initial cutscene Some time around DP, a year or two at most, B/W happen. Then 2 years later, B2W2 Somewhere between 6-7 years after RBG Then Kalos happens, could easily have a year between B2W2 and that. And then Alola, assuming Red and Blue are exactly 20 after being 11 in RBG, that comes up to 9 years Followed by Galar and then, long enough for Sonia’s book to get to Naranja/Uva Academy, Paldea
So they're literally going in chronological order after DPPt. Makes sense to me, and makes it easier than squeezing another game between/at the same time as another.
Just thinking about how Zygarde could have been the perfect ride Pokémon kinda like Koraidon/Miraidon. Just imagine, we meet a Zygarde core and as we collect more and more cells we get access to different forms we can ride; the wolf form can be the one for fast travel for example
Zygarde vs. Beast: obviously an Ultra Beast, or else they would have used another word to describe it. "Newly SYNTHESIZED Zygarde" I can't believe Ttar missed that.
I actually think you’re spot on with why inverse battles were a thing! I’ve never heard that before but it makes so much sense! Zygarde, as a Dragon/Ground type, is theoretically completely ineffective against Xerneas and Yveltal. But in an inverse battle, Dragon becomes super effective against Fairy, and Ground becomes super effective against Flying. Suddenly, it makes so much sense! Zygarde was supposed to have an ability that inverted the type chart.
Red and Blue are only 20 in Sun and Moon! This makes so much more sense of Mina's appearance in Let's Go! According to her LGPE concept art, Mina is somewhere between 13-15 (annoyingly doesn't specify beyond that), but since S/M/US/UM takes place later than Let's Go, it can't be too much later, or else Mina would have to have retired as a trial captain- they have to retire from that position when they turn 20! So, we know Red is 11 in Gen 1 and FRLG. But in Let's Go, this takes place some time after Red and Blue's journey in the Mega Evolution timeline. If we say it's three years later, then that makes Red 14, so in S/M/US/UM, he'd be 20, and Mina could be as young as 19! It works!
Your theory about Zygarde's ability starting an Inverse Battle makes sense, as each of its STABs would've been super effective against each Legendary. Ground against Yveltal, and Dragon against Xerneas.
Maybe black and white taking place 10 years later refers to the origin point rgb and rse, and not the previous point in diamond and pearl. So it can be rgb/rse, 3 years later hgss & dppt, and then another 7 years later black and white. Sun and Moon would be shortly after black & White and therefore still within the 10 years for red to be 20.
The Beast could've been Guzzlord since, in the Post Game story, that's where Guzzlord can be found, and it's likely a distorted version of Zygard itself... like, Zygard wants to battle this absolute destroyer of order as it's meant to be the protector of Order.
6:02 - By design, Junichi Masuda said in an interview 2019 with Gameinformer( *Check the archives* ) that it's MORE of spacial expansion, rather than each game happening after the other. If I'm to take this seriously, it has to account for the implication that( *Despite one being a sequel of the other* ) Bl2/Wh2 version of events & past 2 years happened EARLIER than that of Bl1/Wh1, because they too take place in different worlds. Bl2/Wh2 makes strong allusions to Emerald( *Right down to the other never seen Mirage Tower having collapsed* ) & Norman acts like he just lost to his kid just yesterday, despite the age growth involving Bugsy being embarassed with his orginal battle introduction, ( *"I never lose when it comes to bug Pokémon"* ), Misty remarking on how she's finally traveled the whole world, & Janine now having similar physical speed as her father did in HgSs( *There's a number of other things, but the vibe seems to be same: the events of the Johto Games happened years back while events of the Hoenn games happened that year* ). In Emerald the Battle Resort didn't exist by the time Team Aqua & Magma were disbanned, possibly explain why the Magma & Aqua Grunt Couple seem to think the other isn't aware of that sort of past, whereas with Bl1/Wh1 HgSs specifically happened long enough ago for seemingly the Foreign Rocket Members to have returned to Unova, got married, and had kid whose now old enough to be a Schoolboy as opposed to still a Preschooler( *Which were even INTRODUCED in those games* ). To avoid rehashing the whole thing again, Raifort's digital board low key comfirms by those game's development that Legends Arceus takes place around 500 years before Magearna was completed, a Pokemon that can take the shape of a Poke Ball design, had the red top of a Poke Ball, and whole shiny form had the same color scheme of Ultra Ball which Legends Arceus has. According to Raifort it's against the cirriculum to talk about future events and then past events, so the timeline on the digitial board is therefore probably meant to be read from left( *Which includes an old Apricorn Ball* ) to right( *Which includes a modern Pokeball, followed by a Great Ball & then Ultra Ball* ), presumably the picture at the beginning is an old drawing of the Naranja/Uva Academy before the Poke Ball design was later added, meaning the timeline is over the last 805 years. The timeline is broken at the middle, & for whatever reason at 3/4ths part. Either the events are logically broken into the span of 402 & 201 years or 603 & 301 years, either way this means the event of Vessa was talking about is unrelated to Spiritomb's Pearl Dex entry( *50/50 that Dex Entry refers SPECIFICALLY to the events of Legends Arceus, but not sure yet* ), as the picture of Laventon & Galaxy Hall with Mt. Coronet in backgroudn are connected to the left side of the timeline. Pointing this out is to bring significance to Cogita saying that Arceus was possibly worshipped 2000 years prior, as right now only other event that happened around 2,500 years was the Darmanitan sleeping in front of the Relic Castle, at which point the divide in when modern games take place is related to whether Volo's ancestors died in cross fire of Zekrom & Reshiram's fight when led by the heroes sons or if they lived because the region was instead philsophically split in 2, only coming to an end when the Dragon split into Kyurem, which I think then began eating both sides( *Bl1/Wh1 never stated the people of Lacunosa feared Kyurem because it ate people, that was ADDED in Bl2/Wh2, so this COULD explain why the heroes sons didn't restart their father's fight & destroy the region* ). This connects because the implication is that the final straw that broke the Numel's back for Arceus to supposedly bring Dawn/Lucas to the past was Volo making his pact with Girtaina & opening the Sapce Time Distortion, in which case Ramanas Park is instead Pal Park( *Which I KEEP having to remind myself when thinking about any deeper significance involving Spiritomb's Pearl Dex Entry* ) because 'Lucas'/'Dawn' convinced Hiemo( *Of the Diamond Clan* ) to not pluck every rose off the island. Without 'Dawn'/'Lucas' technological progress would be much slower( *They inspired people & Rei/Akari were discouraged because of their injuries by a Shinx that made their Pikachu lose faith in them as Trainers. Plus, Melli's bursting into the office convinced Kamado to retrain the Security Corp & their battle with Ingo helped him remember his past to further help with people growing stronger as trainers* ), and Laventon even said without them the Pokedex would never be completed( *Certainly not in his life time* ). We know based on what Cynthia says that Bl1/Wh1 are games that take place some time after specifically Platinum( *As not even in BdSp does Cynthia see Dawn/Lucas take on Giratina* ). I'd have to make quite a few contrary assumptions to that to say that therefore Bl2/Wh2 happen after the events of BdSp( *Even though the lack of Foreign Rocket member family makes me suspicious* ), so for now I'll stick to whether Reishram & Zekrom destroyed the region around 3,000 years being the cause( *I still cling to Rehsiram & Zekrom can be fused into a seperate Dragon that Kyurem can use the DNA Splicers to fuse into the Original Dragon, the fission of which during a Legends Game in Unova explaining the top of Dragonspiral Tower the same way Orgin Dialga/Palkia explains how the Temple Sinnoh became Spear Pillar, and for some reason around 3,000 years ago Kyurem was already defused in Bl1/Wh1's past, explaining why the Dragon split immediately as opposed to Bl2/Wh2's lore told by Drayden* ). While typing this it just officially dawned on me how perfect the split between Red starting his adventure & the events of SuMo being 9 years is: *Because 10 years before it is when Anabel washed up on Poni Island.* We already knew enough to suggest ORAS takes place before Bl1/Wh1( *Because Dr. Fennel has finished the Game Sync, which during XY is refrenced in Coumarine City* ), but interaction with Looker in ORAS has ALWAYS suggested this is ALSO before the events of Platinum, especially since in SuMo Looker comes across as a competent veteran( *Especially if it's canon in the Japanese version he's spouting different lanaguages when freaking out, implying he's been to all of them in his time with Interpol* ) while in UsUm Anabel just come out & says they're part of the International Police, and with Looker claiming he's got a new partner( *Compared to Anabel saying he still doesn't have a Pokemon in SuMo* ) I'd almost think UsUm happen BEFORE the events of Platinum if it WASN'T for the fact he implies Team Galactic have already been dealt with( *Granted the phrasing, "No one here is so terrible as to try to create a new world...or liberate all Pokémon from their Trainers. Yes, peaceful indeed..." , almost makes it seem like they're STILL active in Sinnoh, which WAS implied to be the reason Looker looked into them vs DP & BdSp...* ). The fact he alludes to Team Rocket before Necrozma brought Rainbow Rocket to their world SUGGESTS it really has been not long since Let's Go, & thus Ethan/Lyra have yet to stop them during the events of HgSs( *Who can replace Blue is that equation I'm not sure, beyond maybe Agatha like in the Anime, but what else would you conclude if you're trying to find SOME consistentcy?* ) (I'm cutting this off here to post this, there will only be a part 2)
( *Part 2, there will be no part 3* ) If the battle with Guzzlord is what actually sent Looker adrift to Hoenn then, YEAH, the 9 year difference makes a lot of sense. It's just Looker's amnesia that makes him seem like he MUST be an Ultra Wormhole type faller, whereas I remain fervant that through space time shenanigans that Ingo ended up in the past via the Tera Phenomenon being in Unova & that Kyogre & Gorudon waking up later after Sootopolis erupted on its own like in RSE unlike around 1,000 years ago when the Giant Keystone Meteorite hit Sootopolis in ORAS. The wave from Kyogre not only building up the strength to wash Ingo to Sinnoh & kill the Lord of the Isles lines up with Ingo's concept art implying some connection with the Coastlands( *Before his uniform was apparently wrecked & a few years would account for such a short goatee* ) & would further explain why he was found by the Pearl Clan specifically. Him being a different type of Faller would explain why Anabel, Mohn & seemingly Looker never remembered anything because they were brought to a different world instead through the Ultra Wormholes. As for why Unova, I remain equallly fervant that the Type Gems are Tera Crystals that have been reformed during the sort of seismic shifts that effected Terapagos species & seemingly led to the one in Paldea creating Area Zero underdepths around 2 million years ago( *The specifics of black crystals containing the strongest amount of Tera energy makes me think that Necrozma's body is made of those crystals, jumping off the theory that each Ultra Space is a future version of the Pokemon World should each Evil Team succeed, which all show up in the same game as Rainbow Rocket are introduced, and that Megalo Tower is repurposed into Prism Tower by Team Flare's descendents ... Who hypothetically would be PRETTY close to Paldea* ). If some event happened that perhaps kept the Terapagos from dying out it would explain how Ingo appeared in old Unova to be washed away to old Sinnoh, while Briar's research into Tera Energy & Ingo being a man who drives subway explain how Ingo ended up in the past to begin with( *Especially because ScVi suggests the various Legendary Pokemon Snacksworth met when he was much younger came to Paldea via Briar doing just that later on, which include UNOVAN Legendaries* ). If I HAD to guess, could be totally wrong: *RESHIRAM & ZEKROM destroying the region would be a perfect explanation* ( *I guessed, and it sounded brilliant in its simplicity to me* ). Paldea still gets to have Area Zero, Tera energy can exist in old Unova, and some event made the Tera Phenonmenon disappear in Bl2/Wh2's past until Briar brought it back( *I remain fervant that Bl1/Wh1 Remakes should have Terastalizing, the Type Gems lend towards it while it's just a fanastic mechanic for Pokemon otherwise cursed with 4x weakness. Perhaps Terapagos absorbed all of its energy the same way Eternatus did when it transformed, so perhaps advancements in technology due to the events of Legends Arceus led to a Tera Orb being made during a Legends Game in Paldea, this was used the same way it was in the Indigo Disk, thus explaining the lack of Tera Energy in modern day Bl2/Wh2 Unova. Perhaps then in that case the exploration attempts around 140 years ago led to the Terestal Energy leaking out of Terapagos instead, since this WAS when the phenomenon was said to have been discovered in ScVi* ). So now the question is, if Looker washing up with amnesia is indeed due to him being an Ultra wormhole style Faller, did something happen to the Looker from SuMo? If I were to make a guess, much like Steven's movements in ORAS were XY > Platinum > Emerald > Bl2/Wh2( *Which is to say, he, the self professed 'Wandering Stone Collector' came to Kalos following the events of the Delta Episode & gave the Intriguing Stone to Teirno, came to Sinnoh to collect all of its stones before returning home, was met by the Emerald's Brendan/May in Granite Cave, and then battled in PWT as a Champion where Wallace could compete in the Champion Tournament & Juan has come out of retirement as Sootopolis' Gym Leader* ), it could be that Looker's movements were actually ORAS > SuMo > UsUm > Platinum > Bl1/Wh1 > XY > SuMo ( *Having relooked over it, Looker initally says its been ABOUT 10 years since Anabel washed up on Poni Isalnd. If Looker washed up as a Faller on the Battle Resort, joined the International Police where as a GREENHORN which got his team mate killed, then got his partner Croagunk while Team Galactic were still operating with Cyrus in Sinnoh, which given Steven's aforementioned movements would have been before Emerald, had Croagunk steal the Magma Stone from Charon, he then later came to Unova to arrest the likes of the Seven Sages, by Kalos he lost his Croagunk, and come SuMo he's back to deal with the UBs, then honestly Looker's lack of appearances since UsUm might be due to not being sure what else to do with the man. The only thing that occurs to me is the incident that got his Crogunk killed or kidnapped, and right now I'm 50/50 if the former is possible, even if Lysandre probably commited suicide AT LEAST in Pokemon Y. Him joining Interpol seems like it was to help people as he was helped by the random beauty & to TRY to find out his past, POSSIBLY going to Kalos because Audinite he gave us since Interpol's realworld base is in France, PERAHPS it's somewhere else in Southern Kalos since Sycamore says that Kiloude is located there, while the event on Poni Island is a classic twist of Japanese style storytelling where he finds out the International Police aren't always the good guys. Not hard to see him also joining to see if he could get clues by traveling the world too* ). If I'm on the right track here, for whatever reason ( *At least where the Giant Keystone didn't hit Soopolopolis* ) the order of events seem to be basically RG > XY > Let's Go > HgSS > Platinum > Emerald > SwSh > Bl1/Wh1 > SuMo/UsUm > ScVi( *Hopefully I've demonstrated enough to give some faith that there's a method to the madness here. RG I'm using as stand in for when Red & Blue left Pallet Town, XY might as well be straight up the events of XY as I believe this to be a moving target while the real focus point here is Blue being Kalos, Let's Go Blue returns to Kanto with the Mega Stones to take on the role of Viridina Gym Leader in a world where Team Rocket weren't around yet while Mina is 13 through 15, 3 years later Ethan/Lyra fulfill Sabrina's 'prophecy' of batting her so Mina is 16 to 19 meaning she's likely just 16, the red Gyarados was filmed by the camera crew & Steven returns to Hoenn & in world where Laventon never finished the Hisuian Pokedex Professor Rowan comfirms Rotom as a species of Pokemon, events of Emerald happen, THIS is where I use Bl1/Wh1 as a stand in for their REMAKES as SwSh's Pokedex Entry for Sigilyph implies the Relic Castle has only been discovered, Bl1/Wh1 remakes happen & Mohn disappears instead 2 years before UsUm thus explaining why Type Null was replicated in Galar & in a Delta Episode style plot Colress helps fuse Kyurem, Clemont finishes the Rotom Dex inspired by the Rotom's Lawn Mower & Colress alludes to that event which actually involved Hilbert/Hilda, and that's why ScVi HAS to take place AFTER the events in Alola.* ). ( *I said there would be no Part 2, and thus there won't be. Oddly enough I THINK I've addressed the bulk of everything I brought up & was intending to logically progress to* )
Idk if anyone mentioned or remembered, but in ORAS, it is confirmed to be a parallel universe that has mega evolution compared to the RBG, HSC, RSE, DPPt and BW. So this universe's BW could maybe take place slightly earlier to both allow for Colress to be in SM and Red and Blue to be 20
4:00 I believe there was a theory that Hilda/Hubert went to Kalos immediately following the events of Black and White (and the theory may have been confirmed by some of these leaks but idk) You obviously don’t play as or see the BW protagonists in XY, but I think you still play at the same time that Hilda/Hubert is in the Kalos region? BW2 still follows 2 years after BW
Zygarde being predatory makes sense. Nature often boils down to survival of the fitness. That and all of it's forms are hunter/predatory beings. Cells consume each other. Wolves hunt. Snakes have several prey. A humanoid form more or less would just consume endlessly. With all this, zygarde might just be the most dangerous earth born pokemon. Especially if it only runs on nature balancing urges.
The only complain I has about the designs since forever is that Landorus shouldn't be Ground but "ice", and Tornadus should be "fire" or Fire/Flying, while leaving the Amorus as Ground. The only djin that matches its mythical source is Thundurus 🤷♂ Phione was always an oddity because while it looked as a pre-evo of Manaphy, it wasn't inside the game. So the events of Unova are canonly running in paralel to the events in Alola? Very curious... 🤔 But then, Colress happened! 😆 (I really want to see the prototypes of characters like Grimsley) MY BOI ZYGARDE WHYYY (pls I hope the new Legends brings these forms back in a meaningful way like seeing the wolf and not the doggy, make it real pls 😭)
Actually how I imagine the timeline is that X and Y take place a little bit before b/w, while sun and moon take place a little after, sw/sh and s/v take place around b2/w2 Its just how I see it though, lemme know your thoughts ‘bout it, person who’s reading this
4:15 Gen 6 can't be there. They mention black and white/make references to it. Gen 7 also makes refernces to black and white 2 as well unless if colress there is one before team Plasma? Gen 8 and 9 would fit okay in there. You could explain the type null thing as macro cosmos stealing type null blueprints as the aether foundation was working on it. Them being only 10 years older throws off a lot of the timeline I took for granted.
If you want access to Zygard new form you must first defeat it with a team of 5 with him withdrawing from your team for the fight and he as to be lvl 90 minimum so you can prove your worthy ^^ after said battle he gets a move that ''mega'' evolve him.
What I want in z-a after seeing this video is crazy. Imagine Pokemon x Pokémon y let’s say Pokémon y wins and when Pokémon y is about KILL Pokémon x a loud hollow is heard Pokemon y it tries to run its to late Pokémon z in its hunting from starts beating down on Pokémon y seeing that Pokemon x is low on hp the Main villain tries to catch x so he throws an equal to the master ball depending on the time then z destroys the pokeball and that’s the end of the cutscene .
We robbed ourselves, we begged for remakes of old games like hgss and they made oras, they ran out of time to make z because they seem to worry about going too long before releasing a new generation (ds and 3ds both had upgraded versions that required new pokemon games to show off hardware and new gen is usually expected for that) a world with pokemon z could have been amazing, ultra sun and moon seemed to lack something for me with adding enough, but if they made z then sun and moon and ended with mixing megas and z moves through oras, just imagining is amazing sucks we lost out
5:06 I mean, Sun and moon could still happen after black and white, but it was only a few months later (so still 10 years) That could mean Paldea takes place during B2W2?
No...the time line is stating each events are certain years from the original timeline so bw happened 10 years after red blue and green have taken thier journey which is why they are 20 years old and why gold meets red on mount silver when he's 13 @raiark-tv7uk
The timeline isnt hared to understand...Red and Green are the starting points...each events is a certain amount of years after red and blue take thier journey which explains them being 20 in sun and moon
OK, hear me out. This might be a crockpot theory, but what if Pokémon XYZ the anime gives us what the plot of Pokémon Z was going to be because everything you’re saying a line up with the anime. Bonnie gets the one percent zigard form. And slowly the encounter the 10% 50% and then 100% at the climax of the anime.
I bet you that " beast" you fight against with zygard was supposed to be Necrozma, think about were you find it in sun and moon, and that its an invading ultra beast
3:26 this timeline is a big mess. Since we know that gold and silver occurs before ruby and sapphire due to ruby’s sixth pokemon being celebi and it was stated that he caught it after the events of gold and silver. But then again, this timeline is also incredibly outdated and shouldnt be taken seriously. It should be treated in the same way that we treat beta versions of pokemon. We know they dont look like that, but we acknowledge what could have been.
TTar hints at inverse battles. Imagine if zygarde had an "inverse ability", meaning his attacks follow the inverse type effectiveness. Then he could hit both fairy and flying for super-effective damage
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The "beast" is heavily implied to be Guzzlord since they already have very similar design patterns and are located in basically the exact same cave systems as hinted by James Turner I believe
It's funny how we went from having scraps this year to having so much verified leaks even TT is sick of them.
Yveltal - The eagle at the peak of Yggdrasil
Xerneas - The four Stags representing the four seasons at the base of Yggdrasil
Zeraora - Rattatoskr, the messenger Squirrel that runs up and down Yggdrasil
Zygarde 10% - Fenrir
Zygarde 50% - Jormungandr
Zygarde 100% - Hel
There is 1 more creature associated with Yggdrasil aside from the tree itself, the Dragon that gnaws on its roots and send and receives insulting messages from the Eagle at the top of the tree. The dragons name in mythology is Nidhoggr.
I have to say, for a creature that's supposed to bring about Ragnarok and destroy the world, being represented by a pokemon with 480 BST is kind of underwhelming
@Zimzky91 true, and there are other Norse wolves it could have been based off of, Garmr is Hel's hound, then there are Hati and Skoll. Of the four though, Fenrir is the only one that's another child of Loki, which Zygarde's forms seem to represent.
@@countcr33per Loki has a fourth child. Sleipnir is also one of Loki's children. Loki turned into a mare, had sex with a horse, then birthed it.
@oucyan he has two other children as well, Narfi/Nari and Vali.
Hel, Jormungandr, and Fenrir are the children of Loki and his first wife, the giantess Angrboda.
Narfi and Vali were his sons to his second wife, the goddess Sigyn
And as you said Sleipnir, which is the only of his children he himself gave birth to.
It would be nice to see a Sleipnir inspired Pokémon, with how many diggerent types of horses there are, I'm surprised we don't have more. The Rapidash and A.Rapidash lines, Mudsdales line, Glastrier and Spectrier, Zebstrika's line, and then Keldeo.
@@countcr33per didn't know about Narfi and Vali. Loki sure gets around.
What is actually crazy is ttar way back in the day made a video predicting pokemon Z about this exact concept. He predicted it way back then and it actually was a scrapped concept that’s insane.
We were Robbed😞
We were Robbed😞
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If it was opposite you would say the same 😂
We were robbed 😢
We were robbed 😔
"We were robbed" should be the catchphrase of the pokemon leaking community
"robs gamefreak and leaks files" and after finding out the awesome cut stuff "we were robbed." Seems like everyone got robbed at this point lol
There's still evidence in the games that Zygard was supposed to take down Xerneas and Yveltal. Thousand Arrows was made to damage flying types and and if the Y form was supposed to have rocket launchers, calling them arrows is a good way of fantasizing it a little. Its is weird his only dragon signature move can't hit fairy types, but Thousand Waves does sound like a move made for a predator since it prevents the user from escaping
(Also Aura Break is a thing, but that was obvious from the start)
If Zygard's original ability was linked to inverse battles then I could make sense as core enforcer would be super effective to Xerneas and all the ground signature moves would be super effective to Yveltal, maybe thousand arrows having the smack down effect was added after scrapping Pokemon Z.
I mean, Scrappy allows Normal & Fighting Type moves to hit Ghost Type Pokemon, so just give one of Zygarde's forms that sort of ability but involving Fairies.
Scrappy is even Mega Lopunny's ability, so an ability like that is borderline perfect.
The beast zygarde was supposed to fight was probably guzzlord, since if i remember correctly, you find guzzlord where zygarde is supposed to be and it also lines up with lore correctly since guzzlord's whole thing is eating the ecosystem
i read the ultra ruin lore yesterday (first time playing sm/usum), and the problem of that world was the power plant, guzzlords existed before the power plant incident and humans were fine with them, in my opinion i think guzzlord is just eating, or maybe helping to clean the world?
If the manga is anything to go by Zygard was supposed to take down Necrozma(at least the Necrozma that shows up in Alola in Sun and Moon)
@@felipeveloso1578 makes sense to me if it would be zygard complete vs ultra necrozma
The real ones will remember when the rumored XZ and YZ had Zygarde having two forms from a fake corocoro leak
If Zygarde is eager to fight an Ultra Beast, could that be Guzzlord?
Guzzlord's design looks suspiciously derived from Perfect Zygarde. And it's the only Ultra Beast you can find in a place that actually looks like a parallel timeline. There has to be something about Guzzlord that made him more significant than other UBs. Whatever that was got scrapped, of course. But its design was kept and GameFreak just wouldn't acknowledge that Guzzlord looks like Zygarde.
In the manga Zygarde came to Alola to fight Necrozma.
Maybe that was the cut plot from the game.
Mans legs must be tired from all these logical leaps
SM takes place 2 years after XY which takes place at the same time of B2W2, so making a timeline based on beta ideals hits different
Also LGPE takes place years after Red & Blue per a time lag of events with Mina’s age in SM being the glue that sticks in reverse
They probably retconned BWs position in the timeline to happen way earlier, since we for example also have Colress' appearence in USUM basically confirming it takes place after BW2, which itself happened 2 years after BW. The timeline is still a bit rough, since that only gives us 6 years between DP and SM, but if we say XY and BW2 happen around the same time (as I think another timeline form around the time of ORAS implied) then this should still work out.
Also I still think XY-remakes should be called ZX and ZY (referencing plains in a coordinate system), and the idea that Zygarde was supposed to have alternate forms to combat Xerneas and Yveltal kinda just perfectly molds into that.
That checks out:
RBY + RSE - 11 years old
DPPt + GS - 14 years old
BW - 16 years old
BW2 + XY - 18 years old
SuMo - 20 years old
If I remember correctly, the concept art for grimsley stated that he is 2 years older than in BW2. That would mean the time gap between DP and BW are 2 years.
That whole bit of what happens in the scrapped pokemon Z can always be revisited by Game Freak. So it could be that Zygarde simply has 2 mega evolution or something similar to that like a lot of us have theorized before.
Its funny cause i sent him an abbysal ruins lore theory when that leak surfaced. I think it was a rough timeline of the ancient pokemon world.
Fun fact, we do not actually know what happens to Lysandre after the events at the climax of Pokemon X/Y, it’s theorised that Lysandre was made immortal after the ultimate weapon’s beam struck the Team Flare Base, trapping him under the rubble. Maybe he could’ve used some of the technology that was left over from the Ultimate Weapon and incorporated into his strange arm and back machinery he had in his last battle. He would obviously be wanting revenge if he ever climbed out of the rubble and would’ve most likely been drove into insanity, he could use this reverse engineered UW tech and be hellbent on trying to massacre the people and pokemon of kalos by himself and therefor Zygarde might have to take on an even greater form than it’s 100% form due to the severity of the situation. (Ik this plot would never happen in a pokemon game, not at least a 7+ game but I like the idea of it.)
Actually the 2 forms of Zygarde might be saying that it got new mechanical forms along with its original forms after Lysandre's experiments on it which you could battle in final battle against Lysandre that's the only thing I could think of to make sense of it
This makes Zygarde so cool! Like almost Rayquaza levels of cool! I wish this is what we got, instead of just a fetch-quest in SM
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not early versions per se but iterations. When you create concept art you make iterations and usually get enough peer feedback to decide on the best design to bring into another stage of concept creation, it could be the scrapped ones are the first iterations that they then made multiple versions based on that design and these designs we got are the chosen iterations, that’s why the therians don’t look all that different to the official ones
the timeline is non canon according to Game Freak that was just a employees head canon
and SM are all about alt universes
The timeline is fairly easy
RBG/RSE are the start
Around 3 years Later, GSC Take place, and DP-Pt around the same range because of how DP tie in the Lake of Rage at the start during the initial cutscene
Some time around DP, a year or two at most, B/W happen. Then 2 years later, B2W2
Somewhere between 6-7 years after RBG
Then Kalos happens, could easily have a year between B2W2 and that.
And then Alola, assuming Red and Blue are exactly 20 after being 11 in RBG, that comes up to 9 years
Followed by Galar and then, long enough for Sonia’s book to get to Naranja/Uva Academy, Paldea
So they're literally going in chronological order after DPPt. Makes sense to me, and makes it easier than squeezing another game between/at the same time as another.
This droppped perfectly for my lunch in Austria. Thx Ttar! 💪🏻
Just thinking about how Zygarde could have been the perfect ride Pokémon kinda like Koraidon/Miraidon. Just imagine, we meet a Zygarde core and as we collect more and more cells we get access to different forms we can ride; the wolf form can be the one for fast travel for example
these leaks are either "we were robbed" or "thank GOODNESS this stayed in the drafts" with no in between
I wish we would have got this, the link between X and Y (and Z) and Sun and Moon would have genuinely been amazing.
Tch THEN The old art style would still be in sun and moon too and there would've been a sun and moon movie.
Zygarde vs. Beast: obviously an Ultra Beast, or else they would have used another word to describe it.
"Newly SYNTHESIZED Zygarde" I can't believe Ttar missed that.
This is giving Wild, Weaver, and Wyrm Gaian cosmology! I know French ppl love their werewolves and things like that. How cool
Ttar then: There is nothing for me to talk about
Ttar now: THERE IS TOO MUCH FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT
Bro thought it was over💀
nah blud is inevitable i turned off notifications and still got the notifications its 2 am bruh either way gonna watch the vid
Legend
I actually think you’re spot on with why inverse battles were a thing! I’ve never heard that before but it makes so much sense! Zygarde, as a Dragon/Ground type, is theoretically completely ineffective against Xerneas and Yveltal. But in an inverse battle, Dragon becomes super effective against Fairy, and Ground becomes super effective against Flying. Suddenly, it makes so much sense! Zygarde was supposed to have an ability that inverted the type chart.
Oh fuck Abyssal Ruins lore. I had a whole plot in my head for that and I’m waiting for it to be completely shattered.
Bro doesn't sleep
1:51 tbh Yeah i agree tornadus looks Wierd in the final design and the beta looks nicer
Famous last words: “We’re finishing it this time.”
Red and Blue are only 20 in Sun and Moon! This makes so much more sense of Mina's appearance in Let's Go! According to her LGPE concept art, Mina is somewhere between 13-15 (annoyingly doesn't specify beyond that), but since S/M/US/UM takes place later than Let's Go, it can't be too much later, or else Mina would have to have retired as a trial captain- they have to retire from that position when they turn 20! So, we know Red is 11 in Gen 1 and FRLG. But in Let's Go, this takes place some time after Red and Blue's journey in the Mega Evolution timeline. If we say it's three years later, then that makes Red 14, so in S/M/US/UM, he'd be 20, and Mina could be as young as 19! It works!
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Your theory about Zygarde's ability starting an Inverse Battle makes sense, as each of its STABs would've been super effective against each Legendary. Ground against Yveltal, and Dragon against Xerneas.
Stayed up last night to catch up on leak videos and still had 2 to watch today...the leaks will never end at this rate.
So chill, love the energy in this vid!
5:14 Blue looks like he could be the child of Gary and Misty.
0:40 ah yes, the turtus. The famous creature. 😂
The plot thickens
It keeps getting thicker to the point it's thicker then the skin of a 100,000 pound human
The thick plottens
I love these videos man hope they keep coming
Maybe black and white taking place 10 years later refers to the origin point rgb and rse, and not the previous point in diamond and pearl.
So it can be rgb/rse, 3 years later hgss & dppt, and then another 7 years later black and white.
Sun and Moon would be shortly after black & White and therefore still within the 10 years for red to be 20.
The Beast could've been Guzzlord since, in the Post Game story, that's where Guzzlord can be found, and it's likely a distorted version of Zygard itself... like, Zygard wants to battle this absolute destroyer of order as it's meant to be the protector of Order.
Now, I'm poised to learn why the hell Abyssal Ruins became quite obsolete in Generation V games.
just wait till ttar sees the scrapped ride game
9:32
Exactly what happened with Mewtwo in the anime
6:02 - By design, Junichi Masuda said in an interview 2019 with Gameinformer( *Check the archives* ) that it's MORE of spacial expansion, rather than each game happening after the other.
If I'm to take this seriously, it has to account for the implication that( *Despite one being a sequel of the other* ) Bl2/Wh2 version of events & past 2 years happened EARLIER than that of Bl1/Wh1, because they too take place in different worlds. Bl2/Wh2 makes strong allusions to Emerald( *Right down to the other never seen Mirage Tower having collapsed* ) & Norman acts like he just lost to his kid just yesterday, despite the age growth involving Bugsy being embarassed with his orginal battle introduction, ( *"I never lose when it comes to bug Pokémon"* ), Misty remarking on how she's finally traveled the whole world, & Janine now having similar physical speed as her father did in HgSs( *There's a number of other things, but the vibe seems to be same: the events of the Johto Games happened years back while events of the Hoenn games happened that year* ). In Emerald the Battle Resort didn't exist by the time Team Aqua & Magma were disbanned, possibly explain why the Magma & Aqua Grunt Couple seem to think the other isn't aware of that sort of past, whereas with Bl1/Wh1 HgSs specifically happened long enough ago for seemingly the Foreign Rocket Members to have returned to Unova, got married, and had kid whose now old enough to be a Schoolboy as opposed to still a Preschooler( *Which were even INTRODUCED in those games* ).
To avoid rehashing the whole thing again, Raifort's digital board low key comfirms by those game's development that Legends Arceus takes place around 500 years before Magearna was completed, a Pokemon that can take the shape of a Poke Ball design, had the red top of a Poke Ball, and whole shiny form had the same color scheme of Ultra Ball which Legends Arceus has. According to Raifort it's against the cirriculum to talk about future events and then past events, so the timeline on the digitial board is therefore probably meant to be read from left( *Which includes an old Apricorn Ball* ) to right( *Which includes a modern Pokeball, followed by a Great Ball & then Ultra Ball* ), presumably the picture at the beginning is an old drawing of the Naranja/Uva Academy before the Poke Ball design was later added, meaning the timeline is over the last 805 years. The timeline is broken at the middle, & for whatever reason at 3/4ths part. Either the events are logically broken into the span of 402 & 201 years or 603 & 301 years, either way this means the event of Vessa was talking about is unrelated to Spiritomb's Pearl Dex entry( *50/50 that Dex Entry refers SPECIFICALLY to the events of Legends Arceus, but not sure yet* ), as the picture of Laventon & Galaxy Hall with Mt. Coronet in backgroudn are connected to the left side of the timeline.
Pointing this out is to bring significance to Cogita saying that Arceus was possibly worshipped 2000 years prior, as right now only other event that happened around 2,500 years was the Darmanitan sleeping in front of the Relic Castle, at which point the divide in when modern games take place is related to whether Volo's ancestors died in cross fire of Zekrom & Reshiram's fight when led by the heroes sons or if they lived because the region was instead philsophically split in 2, only coming to an end when the Dragon split into Kyurem, which I think then began eating both sides( *Bl1/Wh1 never stated the people of Lacunosa feared Kyurem because it ate people, that was ADDED in Bl2/Wh2, so this COULD explain why the heroes sons didn't restart their father's fight & destroy the region* ). This connects because the implication is that the final straw that broke the Numel's back for Arceus to supposedly bring Dawn/Lucas to the past was Volo making his pact with Girtaina & opening the Sapce Time Distortion, in which case Ramanas Park is instead Pal Park( *Which I KEEP having to remind myself when thinking about any deeper significance involving Spiritomb's Pearl Dex Entry* ) because 'Lucas'/'Dawn' convinced Hiemo( *Of the Diamond Clan* ) to not pluck every rose off the island.
Without 'Dawn'/'Lucas' technological progress would be much slower( *They inspired people & Rei/Akari were discouraged because of their injuries by a Shinx that made their Pikachu lose faith in them as Trainers. Plus, Melli's bursting into the office convinced Kamado to retrain the Security Corp & their battle with Ingo helped him remember his past to further help with people growing stronger as trainers* ), and Laventon even said without them the Pokedex would never be completed( *Certainly not in his life time* ).
We know based on what Cynthia says that Bl1/Wh1 are games that take place some time after specifically Platinum( *As not even in BdSp does Cynthia see Dawn/Lucas take on Giratina* ). I'd have to make quite a few contrary assumptions to that to say that therefore Bl2/Wh2 happen after the events of BdSp( *Even though the lack of Foreign Rocket member family makes me suspicious* ), so for now I'll stick to whether Reishram & Zekrom destroyed the region around 3,000 years being the cause( *I still cling to Rehsiram & Zekrom can be fused into a seperate Dragon that Kyurem can use the DNA Splicers to fuse into the Original Dragon, the fission of which during a Legends Game in Unova explaining the top of Dragonspiral Tower the same way Orgin Dialga/Palkia explains how the Temple Sinnoh became Spear Pillar, and for some reason around 3,000 years ago Kyurem was already defused in Bl1/Wh1's past, explaining why the Dragon split immediately as opposed to Bl2/Wh2's lore told by Drayden* ).
While typing this it just officially dawned on me how perfect the split between Red starting his adventure & the events of SuMo being 9 years is: *Because 10 years before it is when Anabel washed up on Poni Island.* We already knew enough to suggest ORAS takes place before Bl1/Wh1( *Because Dr. Fennel has finished the Game Sync, which during XY is refrenced in Coumarine City* ), but interaction with Looker in ORAS has ALWAYS suggested this is ALSO before the events of Platinum, especially since in SuMo Looker comes across as a competent veteran( *Especially if it's canon in the Japanese version he's spouting different lanaguages when freaking out, implying he's been to all of them in his time with Interpol* ) while in UsUm Anabel just come out & says they're part of the International Police, and with Looker claiming he's got a new partner( *Compared to Anabel saying he still doesn't have a Pokemon in SuMo* ) I'd almost think UsUm happen BEFORE the events of Platinum if it WASN'T for the fact he implies Team Galactic have already been dealt with( *Granted the phrasing, "No one here is so terrible as to try to create a new world...or liberate all Pokémon from their Trainers. Yes, peaceful indeed..." , almost makes it seem like they're STILL active in Sinnoh, which WAS implied to be the reason Looker looked into them vs DP & BdSp...* ). The fact he alludes to Team Rocket before Necrozma brought Rainbow Rocket to their world SUGGESTS it really has been not long since Let's Go, & thus Ethan/Lyra have yet to stop them during the events of HgSs( *Who can replace Blue is that equation I'm not sure, beyond maybe Agatha like in the Anime, but what else would you conclude if you're trying to find SOME consistentcy?* )
(I'm cutting this off here to post this, there will only be a part 2)
( *Part 2, there will be no part 3* )
If the battle with Guzzlord is what actually sent Looker adrift to Hoenn then, YEAH, the 9 year difference makes a lot of sense. It's just Looker's amnesia that makes him seem like he MUST be an Ultra Wormhole type faller, whereas I remain fervant that through space time shenanigans that Ingo ended up in the past via the Tera Phenomenon being in Unova & that Kyogre & Gorudon waking up later after Sootopolis erupted on its own like in RSE unlike around 1,000 years ago when the Giant Keystone Meteorite hit Sootopolis in ORAS. The wave from Kyogre not only building up the strength to wash Ingo to Sinnoh & kill the Lord of the Isles lines up with Ingo's concept art implying some connection with the Coastlands( *Before his uniform was apparently wrecked & a few years would account for such a short goatee* ) & would further explain why he was found by the Pearl Clan specifically. Him being a different type of Faller would explain why Anabel, Mohn & seemingly Looker never remembered anything because they were brought to a different world instead through the Ultra Wormholes. As for why Unova, I remain equallly fervant that the Type Gems are Tera Crystals that have been reformed during the sort of seismic shifts that effected Terapagos species & seemingly led to the one in Paldea creating Area Zero underdepths around 2 million years ago( *The specifics of black crystals containing the strongest amount of Tera energy makes me think that Necrozma's body is made of those crystals, jumping off the theory that each Ultra Space is a future version of the Pokemon World should each Evil Team succeed, which all show up in the same game as Rainbow Rocket are introduced, and that Megalo Tower is repurposed into Prism Tower by Team Flare's descendents ... Who hypothetically would be PRETTY close to Paldea* ). If some event happened that perhaps kept the Terapagos from dying out it would explain how Ingo appeared in old Unova to be washed away to old Sinnoh, while Briar's research into Tera Energy & Ingo being a man who drives subway explain how Ingo ended up in the past to begin with( *Especially because ScVi suggests the various Legendary Pokemon Snacksworth met when he was much younger came to Paldea via Briar doing just that later on, which include UNOVAN Legendaries* ). If I HAD to guess, could be totally wrong: *RESHIRAM & ZEKROM destroying the region would be a perfect explanation* ( *I guessed, and it sounded brilliant in its simplicity to me* ). Paldea still gets to have Area Zero, Tera energy can exist in old Unova, and some event made the Tera Phenonmenon disappear in Bl2/Wh2's past until Briar brought it back( *I remain fervant that Bl1/Wh1 Remakes should have Terastalizing, the Type Gems lend towards it while it's just a fanastic mechanic for Pokemon otherwise cursed with 4x weakness. Perhaps Terapagos absorbed all of its energy the same way Eternatus did when it transformed, so perhaps advancements in technology due to the events of Legends Arceus led to a Tera Orb being made during a Legends Game in Paldea, this was used the same way it was in the Indigo Disk, thus explaining the lack of Tera Energy in modern day Bl2/Wh2 Unova. Perhaps then in that case the exploration attempts around 140 years ago led to the Terestal Energy leaking out of Terapagos instead, since this WAS when the phenomenon was said to have been discovered in ScVi* ).
So now the question is, if Looker washing up with amnesia is indeed due to him being an Ultra wormhole style Faller, did something happen to the Looker from SuMo? If I were to make a guess, much like Steven's movements in ORAS were XY > Platinum > Emerald > Bl2/Wh2( *Which is to say, he, the self professed 'Wandering Stone Collector' came to Kalos following the events of the Delta Episode & gave the Intriguing Stone to Teirno, came to Sinnoh to collect all of its stones before returning home, was met by the Emerald's Brendan/May in Granite Cave, and then battled in PWT as a Champion where Wallace could compete in the Champion Tournament & Juan has come out of retirement as Sootopolis' Gym Leader* ), it could be that Looker's movements were actually ORAS > SuMo > UsUm > Platinum > Bl1/Wh1 > XY > SuMo ( *Having relooked over it, Looker initally says its been ABOUT 10 years since Anabel washed up on Poni Isalnd. If Looker washed up as a Faller on the Battle Resort, joined the International Police where as a GREENHORN which got his team mate killed, then got his partner Croagunk while Team Galactic were still operating with Cyrus in Sinnoh, which given Steven's aforementioned movements would have been before Emerald, had Croagunk steal the Magma Stone from Charon, he then later came to Unova to arrest the likes of the Seven Sages, by Kalos he lost his Croagunk, and come SuMo he's back to deal with the UBs, then honestly Looker's lack of appearances since UsUm might be due to not being sure what else to do with the man. The only thing that occurs to me is the incident that got his Crogunk killed or kidnapped, and right now I'm 50/50 if the former is possible, even if Lysandre probably commited suicide AT LEAST in Pokemon Y. Him joining Interpol seems like it was to help people as he was helped by the random beauty & to TRY to find out his past, POSSIBLY going to Kalos because Audinite he gave us since Interpol's realworld base is in France, PERAHPS it's somewhere else in Southern Kalos since Sycamore says that Kiloude is located there, while the event on Poni Island is a classic twist of Japanese style storytelling where he finds out the International Police aren't always the good guys. Not hard to see him also joining to see if he could get clues by traveling the world too* ). If I'm on the right track here, for whatever reason ( *At least where the Giant Keystone didn't hit Soopolopolis* ) the order of events seem to be basically RG > XY > Let's Go > HgSS > Platinum > Emerald > SwSh > Bl1/Wh1 > SuMo/UsUm > ScVi( *Hopefully I've demonstrated enough to give some faith that there's a method to the madness here. RG I'm using as stand in for when Red & Blue left Pallet Town, XY might as well be straight up the events of XY as I believe this to be a moving target while the real focus point here is Blue being Kalos, Let's Go Blue returns to Kanto with the Mega Stones to take on the role of Viridina Gym Leader in a world where Team Rocket weren't around yet while Mina is 13 through 15, 3 years later Ethan/Lyra fulfill Sabrina's 'prophecy' of batting her so Mina is 16 to 19 meaning she's likely just 16, the red Gyarados was filmed by the camera crew & Steven returns to Hoenn & in world where Laventon never finished the Hisuian Pokedex Professor Rowan comfirms Rotom as a species of Pokemon, events of Emerald happen, THIS is where I use Bl1/Wh1 as a stand in for their REMAKES as SwSh's Pokedex Entry for Sigilyph implies the Relic Castle has only been discovered, Bl1/Wh1 remakes happen & Mohn disappears instead 2 years before UsUm thus explaining why Type Null was replicated in Galar & in a Delta Episode style plot Colress helps fuse Kyurem, Clemont finishes the Rotom Dex inspired by the Rotom's Lawn Mower & Colress alludes to that event which actually involved Hilbert/Hilda, and that's why ScVi HAS to take place AFTER the events in Alola.* ).
( *I said there would be no Part 2, and thus there won't be. Oddly enough I THINK I've addressed the bulk of everything I brought up & was intending to logically progress to* )
Idk if anyone mentioned or remembered, but in ORAS, it is confirmed to be a parallel universe that has mega evolution compared to the RBG, HSC, RSE, DPPt and BW. So this universe's BW could maybe take place slightly earlier to both allow for Colress to be in SM and Red and Blue to be 20
I like the therian forms we got more than the beta designs but I DO wish they incorporated the clouds more
Santos Escobar looking ahh
I think the beast would be similar to the original giratina
I just realized the genie Pokémon and the original beyblade bladebreakers were based on the same thing
4:00 I believe there was a theory that Hilda/Hubert went to Kalos immediately following the events of Black and White (and the theory may have been confirmed by some of these leaks but idk)
You obviously don’t play as or see the BW protagonists in XY, but I think you still play at the same time that Hilda/Hubert is in the Kalos region? BW2 still follows 2 years after BW
That explains why Thousand Arrows hits flying types. Cos it was supposed to target Yveltal.
Pokémon sword extreme randomizer nuzlocke
the more I watch these leaks the more I want more
Zygarde being predatory makes sense. Nature often boils down to survival of the fitness. That and all of it's forms are hunter/predatory beings. Cells consume each other. Wolves hunt. Snakes have several prey. A humanoid form more or less would just consume endlessly. With all this, zygarde might just be the most dangerous earth born pokemon. Especially if it only runs on nature balancing urges.
You say, Abyssal Ruins? I'm IN!!
Love how ttars channel has been consisting only of leaks for more than a month now
The only complain I has about the designs since forever is that Landorus shouldn't be Ground but "ice", and Tornadus should be "fire" or Fire/Flying, while leaving the Amorus as Ground. The only djin that matches its mythical source is Thundurus 🤷♂
Phione was always an oddity because while it looked as a pre-evo of Manaphy, it wasn't inside the game.
So the events of Unova are canonly running in paralel to the events in Alola? Very curious... 🤔 But then, Colress happened! 😆
(I really want to see the prototypes of characters like Grimsley)
MY BOI ZYGARDE WHYYY (pls I hope the new Legends brings these forms back in a meaningful way like seeing the wolf and not the doggy, make it real pls 😭)
Rare hair down Thamill spotted.
Actually how I imagine the timeline is that
X and Y take place a little bit before b/w, while sun and moon take place a little after, sw/sh and s/v take place around b2/w2
Its just how I see it though, lemme know your thoughts ‘bout it, person who’s reading this
4:15 Gen 6 can't be there. They mention black and white/make references to it. Gen 7 also makes refernces to black and white 2 as well unless if colress there is one before team Plasma? Gen 8 and 9 would fit okay in there. You could explain the type null thing as macro cosmos stealing type null blueprints as the aether foundation was working on it. Them being only 10 years older throws off a lot of the timeline I took for granted.
If you want access to Zygard new form you must first defeat it with a team of 5 with him withdrawing from your team for the fight and he as to be lvl 90 minimum so you can prove your worthy ^^ after said battle he gets a move that ''mega'' evolve him.
No lie, ttar with the long hair goes hard
I hope this never ends lol😂
I wanna catch whoever scrapped pokemon Z
Alright. We're getting somewhere. There are still a lot more Infos to cover.
Your work you put into this is so clear!
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What I want in z-a after seeing this video is crazy. Imagine Pokemon x Pokémon y let’s say Pokémon y wins and when Pokémon y is about KILL Pokémon x a loud hollow is heard Pokemon y it tries to run its to late Pokémon z in its hunting from starts beating down on Pokémon y seeing that Pokemon x is low on hp the
Main villain tries to catch x so he throws an equal to the master ball depending on the time then z destroys the pokeball and that’s the end of the cutscene .
BAD GRAMMAR ON MY PART
We robbed ourselves, we begged for remakes of old games like hgss and they made oras, they ran out of time to make z because they seem to worry about going too long before releasing a new generation (ds and 3ds both had upgraded versions that required new pokemon games to show off hardware and new gen is usually expected for that) a world with pokemon z could have been amazing, ultra sun and moon seemed to lack something for me with adding enough, but if they made z then sun and moon and ended with mixing megas and z moves through oras, just imagining is amazing sucks we lost out
5:06 I mean, Sun and moon could still happen after black and white, but it was only a few months later (so still 10 years)
That could mean Paldea takes place during B2W2?
bw is 10 years after dp so its 13 years after rb
@raiark-tv7uk Really?
I thought it was saying 10 years after Red and Blue?
Wouldn't that make more sense in a timeline?
No...the time line is stating each events are certain years from the original timeline so bw happened 10 years after red blue and green have taken thier journey which is why they are 20 years old and why gold meets red on mount silver when he's 13 @raiark-tv7uk
@@anindubuisi22 the text literally translates to "About 10 years after DP"
So the 2 different forms will be like the Volo battle with him and Giritina I'm imagining
The timeline isnt hared to understand...Red and Green are the starting points...each events is a certain amount of years after red and blue take thier journey which explains them being 20 in sun and moon
I think in x and y there was a NPC that said blue came to the Kalos region.
OK, hear me out. This might be a crockpot theory, but what if Pokémon XYZ the anime gives us what the plot of Pokémon Z was going to be because everything you’re saying a line up with the anime. Bonnie gets the one percent zigard form. And slowly the encounter the 10% 50% and then 100% at the climax of the anime.
They probably scrapped Zygarde x and y forms because everyone was upset we never got a Kyurem complete form
"uneleased confidential art" of Red and Blue looks exactly like the official stuff so meh
I bet you that " beast" you fight against with zygard was supposed to be Necrozma, think about were you find it in sun and moon, and that its an invading ultra beast
I think that if zyuard is actually a man made pokemon it would have originally be based on raquaza
The beast is Guzzlord
3:26 this timeline is a big mess. Since we know that gold and silver occurs before ruby and sapphire due to ruby’s sixth pokemon being celebi and it was stated that he caught it after the events of gold and silver.
But then again, this timeline is also incredibly outdated and shouldnt be taken seriously. It should be treated in the same way that we treat beta versions of pokemon. We know they dont look like that, but we acknowledge what could have been.
The leaks Never ends!😱
Hey Ttar nice video but your focus was off
Zygard 75% form when?
nah nah even better: 0% form
Couldn't B&W and S&M have the same later that year thing going on as gen 2 and 4 do on that timeline?
We were ransacked.
I have a feeling THAT'LL happen most likely on ZA and I don't like the sound of that 7:13.
There is more than a zero percent chance that they scrapped those zygarde designs because of that video ttar made in the early days of his channel
NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!
We’re Robert.
Doggo Zygarde is my fav
love this series
So much of this stuff is probably just retconned
Since Zygarde keeps xerneas and yveltal in check why did they give it the dragon/ground type? The X and Y legends have the type advantage
TTar hints at inverse battles. Imagine if zygarde had an "inverse ability", meaning his attacks follow the inverse type effectiveness. Then he could hit both fairy and flying for super-effective damage
LET’S GOOO IT’S TIME BOIZ
10:17 ok, if you didnt read the manga then i guess this is new information to people? It’s literally stated in the xy manga.
MOREEEEE
Also wow I found this video 32 seconds after it came out