How to Prevent School Shootings | Jillian Peterson | TEDxHamlineUniversity

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  • Опубликовано: 7 май 2019
  • It's been 20 years since the Columbine High School shooting, and schools today are no safer. Based on two years of research into the life histories of over 150 mass shooters, Dr. Jillian Peterson explains why our current school safety strategies like lock down drills and security have failed, and uses data to suggest new strategies to prevent mass shootings.
    Dr. Jillian Peterson is a psychologist and professor of criminal justice at Hamline University. She previously worked as an investigator on death penalty cases before obtaining her doctorate in psychology and social behavior from the University of California, Irvine. Her areas of research and expertise include forensic psychology, violence prevention, and mental illness. Dr. Peterson recently received a grant from the U.S. Department of Justice to study the life histories of mass shooters in order to develop new pathways for prevention.
    Lead Videographer: Autumn Vagle
    Assistant Videographers: Emma Larson, Anna Heckmann
    Introductory Graphic: Jackson Cobb
    Jillian Peterson, Ph.D., is a professor of criminal justice at Hamline University and the faculty director of the Hamline Center for Justice and Law. Dr. Peterson received her doctorate in Psychology and Social Behavior from the University of California, Irvine after previously working as an investigator on death penalty cases in Chicago and New York. She has led large-scale research studies on mental illness and crime, school shooting prevention, and mass violence which have received national media attention. Her areas of interest and expertise are forensic psychology, violence, mental illness in the criminal justice system, and evidence-based public policy. She is also trained in restorative justice, violence mediation, crisis intervention, de-escalation, and suicide prevention. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

Комментарии • 375

  • @nottooobvious4890
    @nottooobvious4890 4 года назад +195

    We need more people like her. We need more Mental Health professionals in schools and police departments

    • @tomedwardson2770
      @tomedwardson2770 4 года назад +2

      NotTooObvious 15151 shes hot

    • @peterboyer8918
      @peterboyer8918 4 года назад +2

      @@tomedwardson2770 word

    • @bukoelijah
      @bukoelijah 3 года назад +7

      Let's not include police in schools. I get that we need people to protect us, but time and time again, police brutality has persisted over true protection and de-escalation.
      If you watch the video over again, it focuses more on the de-escalation, social actions, relationships, etc. to prevent shootings. And to stop punishing ppl, especially ppl who EXPECT punishment, and already suicidal/prepared for it. Take time and investment into these people before they do such, and if they do such, make sure they fulfill reparations and seek the help they need mentally and socially.

    • @bizybliztaverage9414
      @bizybliztaverage9414 2 года назад +2

      Wait haven't people been protesting to remove the police for 20 years already

    • @utubestalker.dotcom
      @utubestalker.dotcom 2 года назад +1

      police are not mental health professionals nor do they deal with relationships. if you want to create division, then we can do it by having more police.

  • @vagabondmom448
    @vagabondmom448 2 года назад +56

    I was a new middle school teacher one year after Columbine. I had a student who was cutting himself and wore a bullet she’ll around his neck. He was a loner and regularly bullied. I tried to make my classroom (a special Ed English class) a safe place for him. I tried to reach out to him as best I could. I brought the signs to the administration and my serious concerns that this student needed support and help. They did not want to handle it. I repeated my plea several times. Thankfully he did not go down that road but I am convinced he very well could have. I still think about him and hope that he has found some support and help in his life today.

    • @alice10888
      @alice10888 Год назад +2

      What do you think was the reason that the school administration didn’t want to handle it? They just didn’t know how?

    • @ThatGuy-tx4vm
      @ThatGuy-tx4vm Год назад

      @@alice10888 they are not good human beings that is why. If the shooting happened then they should've been held responsible.

    • @michaellovely6601
      @michaellovely6601 Год назад +4

      @@alice10888 Typically the excuse is "We are extremely busy with other more important cases."

    • @JohnnyWalkerBlack142
      @JohnnyWalkerBlack142 Год назад +4

      @@alice10888 They don't have the knowledge and understanding to care. That's until multiple lives are at stake

    • @randomuser7647
      @randomuser7647 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@michaellovely6601 If that's what the excuse was for ignoring a suicidal kid wearing a bullet around his neck, at the very same school that just received the deadliest school shooting in America only a year prior, than they're not busy with more important stuff, they blatantly just don't care about human life lmao

  • @ArpRLB
    @ArpRLB 4 года назад +99

    Thinking about it further, she made a core statement: “its all about relationships.” This is even more important than she states. It’s the core of all areas of our life: Faith, family, and work. If we tend to the relationships, we see much better things happen. She’s found a critical truth, and IT WILL WORK. Not perfectly, but it will make things better.

    • @goseeaboutagirl
      @goseeaboutagirl 2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately, single parent households are continually increasing, and faith is more and more frowned upon. Also with covid and unemployment checks, some people in certain industries are willingly not working. Not a good combo :/ but I agree with her proposed solution.

    • @zipity2782
      @zipity2782 2 года назад

      How are you supposed to do these things if someone has no family or an abusive family, if they are upset with our often depressing and discouraging society, who have lost all faith in the world and themselves have passed the line between wanting to die and wanting to kill the world with you? You can’t treat this like a mental health issue or a self-help tutorial. Mass shooting are guaranteed. The difference is how dangerous their weapon is, how easy they get it, and how responsive our defense. This is a gun rights issue first.

  • @HikeThePlanets
    @HikeThePlanets 3 года назад +50

    Talking about the root cause of the problem while not irrationally hyper-focusing on the implement used to kill makes good sense. I think she's on the right track.

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger Год назад +5

      She of course does mention that most of the weapons (firearms/ammunition) used in these school mass shootings or known aborted attempts (and how many unknown attempts are [self/by others] aborted) are taken illegally from family members and so attention to securing firearms and ammunition in the household is to be taken as extremely important.

    • @lgarcia67
      @lgarcia67 3 месяца назад

      Agree. This is a comprehensive problem that goes beyond gun owners. Availability is part of the problem; but not the whole thing. The changes needed have to be as she explained, behavioral, comprehensive training of the people close to perpetrators, and then also the issue of availability of guns and how to prevent perpetrators from acquiring them. Our politicians though need to be willing to compromise on this or will never happen

  • @ArpRLB
    @ArpRLB 4 года назад +96

    I’ve seen too many comments that say either “arm teachers - that will solve it.” Or “arming teachers will solve nothing.” I think this professor is right on the mark- work on prevention. On the other hand, it won’t be 100% effective. That’s why they still need a response when things go bad. It’s not “either-or,” but “both.” Can both be done better? Sure. So let’s do both better.

    • @hdjksa52
      @hdjksa52 3 года назад +2

      I think it's a population density problem. Since there are more people around, competition is greater to get noticed socially. Social media South being in the information era the world is a smaller place.

    • @abovetrain
      @abovetrain 3 года назад +3

      Personally I believe that if a teacher is certified to carry a concealed weapon we should arm them

    • @Edwinoo
      @Edwinoo 3 года назад

      Add guards who can arm them selfs to school. Like 4 or 5 of em around all sides of the school and 2 per floof inside the school

    • @ArpRLB
      @ArpRLB 3 года назад +1

      @@Edwinoo It's a good idea, but given how little budget there already is, it's difficult to put in practice.

    • @Edwinoo
      @Edwinoo 3 года назад +1

      @@ArpRLB my school has 5 guards
      I'm saying arming them, the gun purchasing is most likely a 1 time thing and is worth less than the salary of thr guard itself

  • @prestonhinckley241
    @prestonhinckley241 Год назад +12

    Thank GOD someone finally said what I've always been thinking!!! I've always found lockdown drills to be such a waste of time and resources during the school day for the exact same reason as she states, but every single time I say that to a teacher or administrator they just shut me down about it. Lockdown drills do not train the students how to escape a threat, but instead teach the threat how to attack more students.

  • @dr.thumbtzen6464
    @dr.thumbtzen6464 4 года назад +20

    Let children choose what they want to learn about and support them.

  • @Herozonex200
    @Herozonex200 4 года назад +55

    They also start by telling parents to teach their kids to love and respect anybody. Most parents won't do that so we end up having kids with mental illness or bad habits that disrespect themselves

    • @marknorwood7521
      @marknorwood7521 3 года назад +6

      "Respect" for one another is a Crucial part of a Civil Society.
      Unfortunately, in today's climate, "Respect" is Drastically Absent.

  • @quescott7601
    @quescott7601 4 года назад +182

    I thought she was holding an AR first glimpse of the thumbnail 😂

    • @MapleMilk
      @MapleMilk 4 года назад +21

      I love this comment immensely because it gives me the closure that I wasn't the only one who thought of that insane prospect

    • @SwagokuLion
      @SwagokuLion 4 года назад +3

      and you think thats funny for no reason

    • @allensandmi5729
      @allensandmi5729 4 года назад +2

      Same

    • @vn4228
      @vn4228 4 года назад +2

      Same

    • @unitgamex2972
      @unitgamex2972 3 года назад +3

      @@SwagokuLion humor is weird.

  • @hdjksa52
    @hdjksa52 3 года назад +17

    This is a scary Trend, may God help us all.

  • @pamelajackson69
    @pamelajackson69 Год назад +18

    Several years ago a school shooting occurred at the high school I attended. Except this shooting was done by the school resource officer (also a local police officer) who shot and killed a deranged man who entered the school, following a student who was late getting there. The school immediately went into lock down and the resource officer confronted the man who was armed with guns and intent on using them, in the hallway. She tried at first to diffuse the situation but when she was unable to do so she shot & killed him before he could endanger anyone else. The school was Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TN. The officers name is Carolyn Gudger, and in my hometown she is a hero. She is the perfect example of what a school resource officer should be. A courageous woman who did her job, putting her life on the line for the students/faculty she was hired to protect. I was very disappointed that there was not a lot of media attention surrounding this incident, except for locally of course. I just really wanted people to see what a difference having a well trained, courageous police officer who takes their promise to protect and serve seriously on campus can make in these situations. I share this story so that the world will learn about this hero that is among us by the name of Carolyn Gudger

    • @pamelajackson69
      @pamelajackson69 Год назад +4

      @@stratocasterblue he had a gun pointed at her the entire time. At first he held a gun to the head of Principal Melanie Riden, until the officer inserted herself between the two and told the principal to run to safety, which she did. If you don't believe me, look it up for yourself. I gave all the info that you need to do so, the name of the school, the location, the officer's name, etc. The date was August 30, 2010. There is a video here on RUclips from the surveillance cameras inside the school. The best way to understand what is happening is to know the layout of the school itself but you can see for yourself the standoff between officer and attempted shooter, both of whom had guns pointed at the other the entire time. She did everything she could to save his life, trying to diffuse the situation while strategically leading the shooter from the most heavily populated area of the school to the least populated area where he was essentially trapped and she had total control of the situation. In the end there was no choice but to use deadly force when her backup officers arrived through a hidden entrance that is located behind where she led the shooter. Their arrival startled the shooter who refused commands to drop his weapon repeatedly. I tried to keep my comment from being so lengthy by giving a recap of events without every single detail cause the point of it is to show that these things can have a positive outcome. But since you question the validity/truth of my post, I tried to give you enough detail so you could have a better understanding of what occurred. Any other questions, just ask

    • @pamelajackson69
      @pamelajackson69 Год назад +2

      @@stratocasterblue I'm not sure I understand what you mean by your comment "I am sure you would have done the same like anybody would have" Please help to understand it if you will

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад +1

      @@pamelajackson69 I think it is great you are working towards something, You are very smart and I meant to say I think she did an exceptional job and I am proud of her.

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад +2

      You are very convincing

    • @pamelajackson69
      @pamelajackson69 Год назад +1

      @@stratocasterblue I wish you hadn't deleted your comments because we were having a conversation, not an altercation

  • @rickys6770
    @rickys6770 2 года назад +3

    So much time is spent teaching students about isosceles triangles, structures of a leaf and causes of a war that occurred 100's of years ago. These are important but we often neglect such important lessons about suicide, drug addiction, physical abuse, and relationship problems. Schools prioritize scores on standardized tests but ignore major crises facing teenagers and young adults. We must teach students to be healthy and well adapted individuals and not just emphasize going to college.

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад

      Its the patriot act causing everybody to distrust and disrespect everyone as they are told to collect, Share and sell everyone's personal details because it is for the police and we are all terrorists, Hmm did nothing for Jan 6 or kidnapping of governor Whitmere in Michigan and zero for all these shootings but the advertisers make 150 billion a year from this. How about end the patriot act which will restore mutual respect among people, Peace and trust just as before the patriot act 21 years ago when there was 1 shooting per year.

  • @endymion30
    @endymion30 2 года назад +5

    School shooting just happened as I’m writing this in texas. More people need to see this

  • @TopShockers
    @TopShockers 5 лет назад +26

    A template for real action. Proof that relationships are key.

  • @hottopic3622
    @hottopic3622 3 года назад +8

    I’m actually doing research on this for a school paper on the book Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult. It’s scary how much the school shooter in the book relates to the statistics and such she brought up.

  • @Dragon-xp8dl
    @Dragon-xp8dl 3 года назад +18

    Finally, someone who halfway understands.

    • @jeffjackson5850
      @jeffjackson5850 2 года назад +2

      More like 3/4 understands

    • @jessyjkn
      @jessyjkn 7 месяцев назад

      Next is to ban guns

  • @TH-eb5ro
    @TH-eb5ro 2 года назад +6

    March of 2022, we might need to have this running on the news and sent to politicians in Texas.

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад

      Its the patriot act causing everybody to distrust and disrespect everyone as they are told to collect, Share and sell everyone's personal details because it is for the police and we are all terrorists, Hmm did nothing for Jan 6 or kidnapping of governor Whitmere in Michigan and zero for all these shootings but the advertisers make 150 billion a year from this. How about end the patriot act which will restore mutual respect among people, Peace and trust just as before the patriot act 21 years ago when there was 1 shooting per year.

    • @CharlieIII
      @CharlieIII Год назад

      Texas police need this video

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP81 Год назад

    Thank you very much for sharing that important information.

  • @i.a.o.2909
    @i.a.o.2909 4 года назад +7

    Good presentation!

  • @ethanbumpus9580
    @ethanbumpus9580 Год назад +2

    These words are music to my ears!

  • @Nicolejohnson10523
    @Nicolejohnson10523 4 года назад +15

    I remember back in elementary school i was in the 3rd grade and was on lockdown and in school we all sat quiet with all the lights off completely silent and while on lockdown or maybe a drill someone came up to my classroom door and banged on it 3 times really loudly and really fast everyone inside including me screamed a gut reaching scream scared for our lives after that the person moved on down the hall and me and the rest of my classmates sat in fear and terror for 35 minutes before the intercom came on telling everyone what we thought was a drill was real and that the person was caught by a teacher and security guard right down the hallway from where my classroom was I went home terrified and didn't tell my parents what happened until the very next day too terrifying for me as an 8 year old to tell so soon because I didn't even understand what went down that day myself because I was just a child in a classroom too young to understand the danger in front of my eyes I didn't know what a school shooting was until the Sandy hook shooting at the age of 12 and it was that shooting of those 28 kids and teachers that made me realize what it was I went through at the tender age of 8 years old.

    • @SwagokuLion
      @SwagokuLion 4 года назад +3

      people shouldn't have bullied adam lanza

    • @jayevans6146
      @jayevans6146 3 года назад

      The person above me is nuts, and completely missed the point of the original comment.

    • @franciscoo.8656
      @franciscoo.8656 2 года назад

      Wow i am so sorry to read what happened to you. It makes me sad. I just hope that some day all of this will be forgotten as God in the Bible promises. (Apocalypse 21:3,4) believe it, cause if there is one thing God can not do is lie. And all this evilness is proof the his day is near. Look for the truth, look for the ones that apply John 13:34,35 cause in this everyone will now who are the true disciples.

    • @morganmadison366
      @morganmadison366 2 года назад

      So sad. We had no security, no locked doors, no student ID badges, no drills, no lockdowns, no worries when I went to public schools in suburban Los Angeles from 1970-1983. There was gang related violence that could involve weapons in LA schools in other areas.

  • @marioacevedo5077
    @marioacevedo5077 4 года назад +18

    In Parkland Florida the school had plenty of resources and opportunities over years to intervene and prevent the shooting. How come March For Our Lives or Moms Demand Action doesn't promote this video? Oh wait, because this presenter never blamed gun laws!

    • @junkybabes
      @junkybabes 3 года назад +3

      Gun laws are the problem? Do you know i would bet my house that my kids school never has a gun on the premises... But i live in England where guns are difficult to come by.

    • @marioacevedo5077
      @marioacevedo5077 3 года назад

      @@junkybabes In the UK you don't have our problem with gangs. Plus your country's experience in suppressing the IRA means that your authorities are more attentive to threats of mass violence, usually. Then again you lead us in knifings, acid attacks, and bombings.

    • @junkybabes
      @junkybabes 3 года назад

      @@marioacevedo5077 we do but knifings tend to be rivals fighting, bombing by terrorists but no kids shooting up schools. I'd take my kids chances in our schools than yours.

    • @ZaynShah871
      @ZaynShah871 3 года назад

      It starts from mental health issues due to be pushed away and isolated from society and the school population, it’s the victims fault.

    • @FIyingDumpling
      @FIyingDumpling 2 года назад

      @@junkybabes mass shootings doesn’t just happen in school

  • @kassrripples3659
    @kassrripples3659 5 лет назад +6

    Incredible research and very interesting presentation thank you ... So sad this week.

  • @rinopw4262
    @rinopw4262 3 года назад +1

    This was so brilliant

  • @clownworld5531
    @clownworld5531 3 года назад +4

    How about punishing bullies that will solve the problem

  • @glennmariacher4525
    @glennmariacher4525 2 года назад +4

    Finally, a brilliant, effective statagey for dealing with the source of the issue. When people are hurting, they need healthy attention; this is how it is done. Thank you so much for this video, Glenn

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад

      No, she is wrong, Its the patriot act causing everybody to distrust and disrespect everyone as they are told to collect, Share and sell everyone's personal details because it is for the police and we are all terrorists, Hmm did nothing for Jan 6 or kidnapping of governor Whitmere in Michigan and zero for all these shootings but the advertisers make 150 billion a year from this. How about end the patriot act which will restore mutual respect among people, Peace and trust just as before the patriot act 21 years ago when there was 1 shooting per year.

  • @ponycarfan
    @ponycarfan 5 лет назад +16

    WOW - this is excellent.

  • @Felon_With_A_Gun
    @Felon_With_A_Gun День назад

    Who would have thought that relationships, human connection, and caring about the kids would actually make them stop shootin(g schools up)

  • @jasonmacaranas9725
    @jasonmacaranas9725 4 года назад +10

    How does this not have 1 million views?

  • @91rss
    @91rss 4 года назад +11

    Thanks for this. Just talking to teachers they all can pick out kids at risk. but they cant do anything about it in the system they are in. Prison guards said similar, They can see the darkness in every one that harms others.

  • @dr.thumbtzen6464
    @dr.thumbtzen6464 4 года назад +30

    It all starts in the public school system. Outcasts and unpopular kids being singled out from the rest and feelings of loneliness it all fuels the anger towards society that they feel they are not apart of.
    Gun laws won’t fix psychology issues.
    It all starts from childhood and schools, we need to identify the “clicks” in school and forcefully mix in the kids with other kids on school projects and stuff like that, for example, when u have a class project in school and the teacher says ‘lalright everyone, get into groups of four with your friends “, but not all kids are social and you’ll see the shy nerd kid sitting by himself can’t find a group of friends to pull him in. Etc

    • @Teeman44
      @Teeman44 Год назад

      But that sad reality happens everywhere in the world with children. Why is school shooting only problem in 🇺🇸? Why is it not happening in 🇨🇳 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇰🇷 🇫🇷 🇪🇸 etc????

    • @effdahjuice6419
      @effdahjuice6419 Год назад

      I think assigning specific tasks for each group member is also essential, just so cooperation is guaranteed. Though it does seem bigoted to well... single out the people you deem "lonely", I'd say promoting universal kindness in class should be where it ends when it comes to what teachers should do.

    • @mollystewart-gallus537
      @mollystewart-gallus537 21 день назад

      It starts with the parents

  • @goseeaboutagirl
    @goseeaboutagirl 2 года назад +12

    Chappelle mentioned this exact same point lol, that having Active Shooter drills trains potential future shooters. "Where do we meet?"

  • @wallihaley5194
    @wallihaley5194 5 лет назад +11

    Jbruner seems to have missed her point about not punishing students who threatened violence. Arresting a student is a punishment. That’s not what the professor is advocating. Instead, she is saying that threatening violence can be seen as a cry for help that needs mental health intervention.

  • @johanneshaukanes4531
    @johanneshaukanes4531 3 года назад

    11:24 Wow, good said.

  • @spiritofecstasy8525
    @spiritofecstasy8525 2 года назад +1

    A buzzer should go off in the school office every time an outside door is opened or ajar! In the very least, get rid of those door stops and let the doors work the way they are designed to do so! 😐

  • @shadowbanned3716
    @shadowbanned3716 2 года назад +2

    shes smart and makes sense.

  • @jamesmcgarity614
    @jamesmcgarity614 11 месяцев назад

    Prevention is the best policy and nice to see someone trying to understand.

  • @johnnyg1132
    @johnnyg1132 3 года назад +8

    How is it that you have to be a "Dr" to figure this out? The majority of the child shooters are what most people consider 'outsiders' socially. Yes all the school staff need to be taught and trained to identify these potential shooters, but there is something even more important that needs to be done and I can't believe it's not done already. Kids need to be taught from a young age, in school, how to be more empathetic to others to prevent others from becoming shooters later in life in the first place. Kids can be fantastically cruel by picking on the ones that seem different and have a difficult time fitting in, which of course makes things worse and resentment grows. It's mob mentality in a school ground and most people don't want to admit that their little Johnny or Susie can be downright sociopathic to other kids, often in an attempt to fit in with the cool kids. Teachers should sit down and talk to children in school and ask them who are the kids that don't fit in, they'll tell you, they all know. Ask them who's being picked on either on school grounds or off, talk to the kids doing it, find out why they're doing it and try to bring everyone together.

  • @sweetbeep
    @sweetbeep 2 года назад

    I'm pretty sure it should go WAY more upstream than that. Harmony in the home and social skills at school.

  • @Ledphoot
    @Ledphoot 4 года назад +12

    Another thing we can do is to teach our children to be FRIENDLIER and more COMPASSIONATE towards others. As a society we are failing at teaching kindness and acceptance. Kids can be cruel to each other, which compounds on the problems that troubled children have...

    • @therealanonymous6627
      @therealanonymous6627 4 года назад +2

      I mean yes but no. We should teach more compassion but we should also teach our kids to not have thin skin. I often reference my own story, when I was in middle school there were fights every day ( it was a lower class school ) I would often fight my best friends over small things, and we'd be fine the next day like it never happened. In high school ( middle class school ) I got in a few dozen fights and in 2 cases I got sued by someone not involved in the fight for making them fear their life and giving them PTSD. It seems the better off a family is the more sheltered the children are. I'm only 19 but I look at some 20-25 year olds and think they need to grow up.

    • @MesmericDevelopment
      @MesmericDevelopment 4 года назад

      I agree but the problem is kids use to learn how to deal with violence by getting into a few fist fights when they were younger now they don't allow that thus everyone thinks there the toughest so there is no reason they can't go and kill some people in their mind

    • @Michael-ig8ih
      @Michael-ig8ih 3 года назад +1

      Look at the Columbine shooters. They weren’t looking for compassion. They wanted to have a chip on their shoulders. Hold them responsible

  • @chellebaker7729
    @chellebaker7729 11 месяцев назад

    My high school had a shooting my sophomore(10th grade) year. I was in the English hall, at my locker. Heard 2 LOUD bangs near the front entrance. That was only about 500ft from me. My English classroom was just behind me and down about 6 lockers from mine. Teacher came out and looks at me. We lock eyes. She asks if I saw what made the sound, I owl eyed, slowly shake my head no without a word. She looks at my hands, sees they are empty and comes over and grabs my hand, pulling me to the classroom. She closed the door, turned off the lights, and made the entire class move to the one side of the room, farthest from the door. Before moving from her spot she locked the door, and grabbed a kids desk (we had the ones where the chair was attached to the desk) and put it against the door. She pulled the blinds on the two windows behind her desk after locking them. Then came to us, and we just sat. And waited. The announcement we dreaded suddenly came. "We'd like to wish Mr. Ballderdash a happy Birthday. Happy Birthday, Mr. Ballderdash." It was our schools code announcement for Shooter IN building. We waited and waited, before being escorted out, class by class in a SWAT on either side lining the halls of single file kids being let out of the school. Shields and Guns, helmets and boots, let out into the baseball fields next to the school. It was pure terror. Lucky for us and our situation, it ended with no deaths or major injuries. Our assistant principle was able to negotiate and diffuse the situation with the shooter, who was a student of the school.

  • @jamesoconnor8217
    @jamesoconnor8217 3 года назад

    I wonder how many of these people were bullied online as well as in school.
    I'm sure teachers, parents, peers and fellow students can pick up on clues that their fellow communitiy members are angry/suicidal and report it to the school counsellor/Community intervention specialists.

  • @3Pillers
    @3Pillers 2 года назад

    Interesting

  • @Elijah_Lopez
    @Elijah_Lopez Год назад +1

    Summary;
    Currently students are punished for making threats of violence. Solution is to treat it like a cry for help and a sign of a suicidal crisis. mental health care, substance abuse, Social services, peer support, long-term, ongoing, consistent follow up. Schools need to have the resources have to be available and accessible by the community.
    ALL adults in a school should be trained in suicide prevention, crisis intervention, and deescalation.

  • @ninijohannaq
    @ninijohannaq 2 года назад

    Ironically yesterday was the worst mass schools shooting

  • @PuffinPsychologist
    @PuffinPsychologist 2 года назад +2

    It just makes me cry because (especially now with the recent Uvalde Texas shooting 2022) all anyone wants to argue/talk about is taking guns away… There’s no allowance for any debate or offering other solutions… We can’t even talk about any other possibilities. It’s just “if you disagree with restricting guns or want to find any other way, then you condone school shootings and killing kids”…. I don’t own a gun and yeah I might feel kind of violated civilly because I feel it is our right as an American (To legally own a weapon and be a responsible gun owner). However, if it were *proven* to protect children I would agree wholeheartedly. BUT… It won’t fix the issue or even decrease the risk of a school shooting. The points in this video is what should be talked about… THIS IS WHERE OUR MONEY, TIME, EFFORT, & RESOURCES SHOULD BE GOING! At the very least… more research like this… Along with more security measures in schools. Maybe not so many drills but better training, more watchful eyes, and more secure school facilities. If we can help the people who get to these points with guns, we don’t even have to get to the guns…By help, I am not minimizing what they have done. I am just saying if we can even notice the red flags we can prevent 😞

    • @owljones3389
      @owljones3389 Год назад

      Well, now we know which false "security" you'd give up your freedom for, at least.

    • @PuffinPsychologist
      @PuffinPsychologist Год назад +1

      @@owljones3389 I’m not a gun owner so I wouldn’t be giving up anything. I still support the constitutional rights. Was not starting a fight. I am a conservative. I know my values. I don’t take part in pointless political dribble from people like you. Who just want to argue when they see a single point they disagree with. I want solutions not arguments. The entire point was that giving up guns would do nothing, gun restrictions would do nothing. But your heads so far up your -. You cannot even see that we agree.

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад

      Its the patriot act causing everybody to distrust and disrespect everyone as they are told to collect, Share and sell everyone's personal details because it is for the police and we are all terrorists, Hmm did nothing for Jan 6 or kidnapping of governor Whitmere in Michigan and zero for all these shootings but the advertisers make 150 billion a year from this. How about end the patriot act which will restore mutual respect among people, Peace and trust just as before the patriot act 21 years ago when there was 1 shooting per year.

  • @alanroberts7916
    @alanroberts7916 2 года назад

    Given the consequences of doing nothing, the idea of educating thru the internet is looking better and better. Keeping kids away from dangerous people seems like the priority many people want. It worked fairly well with COVID-19 virus situation.

  • @dr.thumbtzen6464
    @dr.thumbtzen6464 4 года назад +6

    Outcasts and popular kids , popular kids are popular for reasons , outcasts are outcasts for reasons, what are these reasons?? How can we change that??

    • @Raccon_Detective.
      @Raccon_Detective. 2 года назад

      Popular kids are Popular because they are very social and join sports, clubs, and help out the community.But outcast are not social and don't join sports, clubs, and don't help out the community in anyway, instead they prefer to stay in thier houses all day.

  • @bishop5400
    @bishop5400 2 года назад +1

    It's going to get to a point where no one wants to teach or be a principal at a school.With all of these suggestions are they going to pay the teachers more salary to along with all of this?

  • @vigormindset
    @vigormindset 4 месяца назад

    Actually, what the statistics say (as hard as it might be to digest) is that the most effective and logical and practical way to stop school (or any other mass gathering) shootings is for the intended victims to be equipped and able to respond with devastatingly viscous violence. That’s what actually stops these events, when the cops show up, or when the shooter chooses to end it. But the cops take minutes to arrive and stats say approximately one person gets shot every ten seconds of the first minutes of one of these tragic events. We can explore all sorts of humanitarian and compassion based approaches to dealing with this problem, but in the moment, what is called for is something different. That’s why we call the police, or rely on SROs or what have you, because somewhere we recognize that a violent response to such atrocities is what is called for. Anyone curious to learn more, I would suggest looking up Ed Monk, of Last Resort Firearms Training.

  • @mojopin2000
    @mojopin2000 4 года назад +9

    This was very helpful. Switching gears from punitive to preventative is a great proposal. If I could take this one more level deeper, I believe that what our children are learning in school is also something that should be comprehensively reformed. I would like to see a study done on the correlation between curriculum and school violence. I think that what our education system is focusing on teaching our kids is worth some deep scrutiny. Are they learning the essentials? Are they learning fundamentals of academic discipline and personal accountability? Or are they being given free reign and zero consequences?

  • @nowsmile790
    @nowsmile790 6 месяцев назад

    Well, one of the big problem is, is that even though she says that they are spending money on police in schools and teachers with firearms all of the schools that I’ve had a school shooter attack the school. Didn’t have both of those two things.

  • @BVSchaefer
    @BVSchaefer 2 года назад +8

    I've always rather seen school shooters as punishers. Whether it's the other students or the teachers, someone has so much repressed anger that this is the outlet they decide upon. The question is always asked "what happened to make that person a shooter" but no one ever investigates "what did the school do that someone felt they were deserving of being shot?"

  • @taylorhagen3916
    @taylorhagen3916 4 года назад +2

    My school doesn't do barley any lockdown drill, we do at must 2 a year

  • @alesiacastaniero4050
    @alesiacastaniero4050 3 года назад +1

    Teachers need to be fully prepared on how to act…where to go if you’re in the classroom and if you aren’t. No one was prepared on February 14, 2018. All bathrooms need to be unlocked at all times during school hours.

  • @csyarid
    @csyarid 4 года назад +3

    Good information here and excellent ideas on how to move forward BUT I have to disagree with something she said earlier in the video. Hard targets, security, and armed adults in schools do in fact work. It's not an ideal situation but is effective in stopping a mass shooting.

    • @seancarroll278
      @seancarroll278 3 года назад

      I agree completely with you. You may enjoy this response and action plan to address the 91% of potential school shooters going forward.

    • @ragedaniel5475
      @ragedaniel5475 3 года назад +1

      They could even stop them in theory, but what must be aimed at is preventing (making weapons illegal) and thus preventing these people from having easy access to firearms. Here in Europe there are no such problems precisely because getting a weapon is very difficult.

    • @noideas439
      @noideas439 Год назад

      There is no way to stop a shooter if they start in the classroom, none at all. All I can think of in terms of damage control would be to have those steel shutters over classroom doors

  • @pxyfan
    @pxyfan 3 года назад +5

    All of her points are extremely well thought out and she obviously is very smart. The only issue is: how do you ensure that teachers and staff will whole heartedly adhere to helping these psychopathic mass shooting kids deal with their issues? The teachers and staff don't even handle bullying well most of the time, so what makes you think that they will go even further to help? Even if it is mandated, I just don't see it working. I feel like you have to invest in high functioning technology to significantly prevent shootings: multiple armed police on campus at all operating hours with guns loaded and ready, automatic lock up doors, electric fences, metal detectors (and if a student is found to not be scanned then they are arrested) etc. also, what does she mean that security isn't working? most school don't even implement one of the things I've suggested. Only in recent years have a few schools put up fences, but that solves nothing because shooters can just simply climb over fences. I like her point of view and her professionalism, but I don't truly see this working. We really need to step up our game here folks

    • @Tamara-id1pe
      @Tamara-id1pe 2 года назад

      You want kids to go to school in prison, and to be arrested for not committing a crime? That’s your answer?

  • @stevenbaumann5911
    @stevenbaumann5911 Год назад +1

    I do not see why you can't do both. I agree if you can get to the kid early enough, you might be able to prevent it from ever happening. But I also believe our schools should not be left defenseless. Instead of having police officers, I would hire military veterans. At the very least it would make the person think twice.

  • @seanberthiaume6909
    @seanberthiaume6909 2 года назад

    Harden schools w/armed guard (s) depending on size as well as exists and entrances reinforced locked with a buzzer to enter exist for the time being and parenting!

  • @faithhodge5927
    @faithhodge5927 2 года назад

    Note: this was posted in May, the Columbine shooting happened April 20th 1999.

  • @aquabat104
    @aquabat104 Год назад

    schools should have better relationships between the staff and students - saved you 12 minutes

  • @allmightyass8914
    @allmightyass8914 5 лет назад +16

    By creating a society where everyone feels supported and treated well so that no one is motivated to do something like that

  • @wrongfullyaccused7139
    @wrongfullyaccused7139 2 года назад

    Worked in the department in New York on death penalty cases. Which means she and her department failed.

  • @markterpstra3440
    @markterpstra3440 Год назад

    We need to put social workers back in schools.

  • @lightninglord1
    @lightninglord1 Год назад

    Platform. Please apprehend.

  • @geraldinejones6146
    @geraldinejones6146 Год назад

    I took my son out of school before Columbine. I noticed cruelty in the teaching method. You can convict a child of murder but you can not convict the teacher of failing to teach basic sight words. Read the book, Dumbing Down America. Ask yourself this question, to save a child life would you teach a child to write the word 'the'. Would you have had the humanity to teach the future killer the word 'the' in first grade. Parent homeschool their children because the answer is no. Parents across United States have stories where their child fail to write the word 'the' in school. We already lost our civilization when parent have to fight on a daily basis for words like: They, he, she, it, them, to be written in school and the teachers refuse.

  • @carguy3028
    @carguy3028 Год назад

    Just want to know why our law makers aren’t talking about any of this. They seem more interested in dividing and one uping one another to own the other side. One side wants to pass laws they have to know won’t hold up to legal scrutiny to anger the other side while the other focuses on hardening schools and arming teachers. Don’t get me wrong I am all for the right to concealed carry for self defense, but not everyone can handle that burden. No one seems to want to get to root cause, I know guns and I know banning a certain kind of gun will do nothing because other guns suitable to the task would be available, and banning all guns would only disarm law abiding citizens. At the same time I don’t think we should do nothing, this is a very well thought out presentation and makes a lot of sense.

    • @michlblacksmith
      @michlblacksmith Год назад

      A gun ban is way too late. Already over 500 mio guns are in circulation, and an additional 15 to 20 mio guns are sold each year. More guns will result in more gun violence it's just a logic consequence. Gun violence is the nr. 1 cause of death for children in the United States, each day 12 children die due to it in or outside schools - in no other western country you find similar circumstances. The time to do something has long passed, you just can accept reality. One can only encourage parents to raise their children outside of the country or in very small an closed enivornment.

  • @bswisher52777
    @bswisher52777 2 года назад

    Worldview?

  • @TheAnoiing
    @TheAnoiing 5 лет назад +6

    @4:09, that is not correct, the Bath School massacre was and still is the worst massacre at a US School.

    • @jbruner17
      @jbruner17 5 лет назад +2

      Jason Gray a lot of what this woman states in inaccurate.

    • @txarsoncop
      @txarsoncop 4 года назад +3

      "Now today, I'm talking about SCHOOL MASS SHOOTINGS, specifically"

    • @rebsarge
      @rebsarge 4 года назад +2

      She is specifically addressing shootings; Bath was not a shooting. She also said, "American High School;" Bath was an elementary school. I suspect you and I are in agreement that a broader, more effective approach would be to study school massacres, rather than just shootings, because a lot of people will infer that the problem is SHOOTNGS, not MURDERS.

    • @kathleenanderson4830
      @kathleenanderson4830 4 года назад +1

      @@jbruner17 , She was referring to *mass Shootings* only. Bath school massacre was *Not* a shooting

    • @tomedwardson2770
      @tomedwardson2770 4 года назад

      Jason Gray was that your favorite

  • @brianbozo2447
    @brianbozo2447 2 года назад

    And not a single word about gun control. The perpetrator will be at a point of maximal stress and minimal capacity to regulate their actions but if they could not get their hands on a gun their rage would be disempowered or at least more minmised that having access to the means to cause maximal damage.

  • @news2383
    @news2383 3 года назад

    Almost all come from single family homes. I guess that it makes sense that the solution would be adults that can help them

  • @jianbruce6036
    @jianbruce6036 3 года назад

    Its easy but no school has other plans

  • @rogerball7040
    @rogerball7040 2 года назад +1

    If anyone is interested, I recently wrote an ebook on school shootings, entitled, "Know the Truth! Is Liberalism to Blame for School Shootings?" This book can help shed light on an elusive topic. I cover a lot of overlooked areas.

  • @seanberthiaume6909
    @seanberthiaume6909 2 года назад

    AHH the VAST MAJORITY PASSED the BG checks to purchase a firearm as of 5/29/2022!

  • @seanberthiaume6909
    @seanberthiaume6909 2 года назад

    The latest shooter in Uvalde was a cutter/face!

  • @whitenova754
    @whitenova754 Год назад

    10:45 the janitor is always god

  • @rhobi-jb9um
    @rhobi-jb9um 4 года назад +1

    I'm not a collage professor and I didn't conduct a study but I'm pretty sure I know the main causes of these events!

  • @iamgauty3647
    @iamgauty3647 3 года назад

    In some culture the guilty is laid on a table. Surrounded by the people he hurt. And at the same time each person plunges a knife into the guilty. Lets do that.

    • @pxyfan
      @pxyfan 3 года назад +1

      Honestly, I can understand that feeling of wanting revenge. How are you just want to make these awful people suffer indescribable pain because they did it to other innocent people. But that wont help. I think we should follow what this woman is saying in the vid

  • @thomsons9599
    @thomsons9599 4 месяца назад

    Need to study the cultures of countries where school shootings do not occur. Then compare to the cultures where these shootings do occur

  • @gaburierupeppas933
    @gaburierupeppas933 Год назад

    Danny Duncan.

  • @jeffjackson5850
    @jeffjackson5850 2 года назад +1

    All the other kids with the pumped up kids they better run better run outrun my gun

  • @kfx9663
    @kfx9663 3 года назад +3

    we could just stop bullying in school and save half of America

    • @Remix2366
      @Remix2366 3 года назад

      Bullying isn't the problem. It's parents not teaching kids that they should not do an action that will negatively effectively anybody else because of emotion

    • @kfx9663
      @kfx9663 3 года назад +2

      you clearly haven't been to a public school before. And how bullying isn't a problem. And many kids are abused by parents. What else do you think causes the problem

  • @aarongooch8898
    @aarongooch8898 11 месяцев назад

    Advocating for not doing lockdown drills is rich...once a shooting starts no amount of mental health services is helpful. You have to stop looking at school violence as an act and more of a process. School later should be seen as layers not one fix...interventions should be "wholistic," including discipline and including removing known dangerous students from having access to victims in the school. Our "restorative justice" laws are keeping dangerous kids in school. You're advocating some good things...but you're also advocating some very dangerous things. You cannot dismiss the skills needed once the incident starts and you cannot confuse good luck with good tactics.

  • @Hadouken5150
    @Hadouken5150 Год назад

    Asking adults in schools to care is absolutely impossible. Period. Most teachers after 5-10 years are so beat down by turd kids that they just think of their job as a job. They don’t have the same mentality they did when they started teaching. Also people don’t want to pay for these resources. They already take enough of our paychecks for taxes (Oregon) I don’t want to give more. They need to use our tax dollars more effectively.

  • @knndyskful
    @knndyskful 3 года назад +3

    “And it’s safe to say it’s not working”
    Prevention is impossible because we don’t live in the Minority report world, and there’s no pre-cogs 😐

    • @venus.6892
      @venus.6892 3 года назад +1

      That is very true, there’s no repeating factor that goes through all of them

  • @alyssawesterlund22
    @alyssawesterlund22 2 года назад

    Welp, this didn’t help.

  • @arnoldstallonereeves7469
    @arnoldstallonereeves7469 3 года назад

    Simple, Just no more schools.

  • @melusiicebo8505
    @melusiicebo8505 3 года назад +4

    When I clicked I was like "Please don't talk about 'TOXIC MASCULINITY '".

  • @charliedonnelly6155
    @charliedonnelly6155 2 года назад +1

    Do we think that in the history of this country we didnt have kdis with sad stories...do we think that throughout the history of America kids didnt have access to guns, do we think historically we didnt have kids that got bullied or that kids didnt have emotional problems? (Though i think many factors have resulted in more fragil kids...more kids that think things are hopeless...more kids unable to deal with pressures of life that so many of us dealt with growing up). What we see is a refusal to consider that those in power have reduced the respect for life...a push to eliminate pride in this great country (that so many around the world would die to get to...those in power have created this problem and now want to use it as justification to take yet more power to control the population in this country. America used to have a population that believed in the afterlife...a system of eternal rewards and consequences...the sanctity of life...the Christian foundation of life (right and wrong...love that expresses itself in healthy ways . Say whatever you want but since government has stolen the authority to teach our kids right and wrong we have been on a steady road to where we are now...despair, lack of respect for life, refusal to live WITHIN the society but to demand what we think is good when historically PARENTS have been the ones to teach our kids that (parents dont feel beholden to groups that can affect if they get elected again---are there bad parents? sure. but things have gotten IMMENSLY WORSE since parents/families have been marginalized, attacked, hamstrung trying to compete with an out of control government seeking to control everything about our lives up to and including seeking to criminalize speech that disagrees with it...even talk about removing children from Christian homes because teaching kdis God's word is starting to be labelled "hate speech". we need a return to the day when government has LESS control (or even influence) in the lives of families.

    • @williamadams8353
      @williamadams8353 Год назад

      I am attending my 40 year anniversary reunion this summer. Class of 1982, and there was no idea of doing things like this back then. I am from a small city in Colorado that is pretty rural with plenty of access to firearms, but it was just not even thought of. The concept was so foreign that it just did not occur to us to solve our life's problems with. I guess we were still human beings back then. Fast forward to today and the monsters of society are everywhere it seems. And they just keep coming and coming, day after day. What kind of world are we leaving our kids and grandkids?

    • @stratocasterblue
      @stratocasterblue Год назад

      Its the patriot act causing everybody to distrust and disrespect everyone as they are told to collect, Share and sell everyone's personal details because it is for the police and we are all terrorists, Hmm did nothing for Jan 6 or kidnapping of governor Whitmere in Michigan and zero for all these shootings but the advertisers make 150 billion a year from this. How about end the patriot act which will restore mutual respect among people, Peace and trust just as before the patriot act 21 years ago when there was 1 shooting per year.

  • @benjamincaroon8572
    @benjamincaroon8572 Год назад +1

    if you take all of the money we have sent to Ukraine divided up and give it equally to every single school in America each school would receive 53,463,682 you could hire 5 police officers at each school. Problem solved you’re welcome

  • @randomuser7647
    @randomuser7647 7 месяцев назад

    "The worse the crime, the worse the story, this is always true" False. There's been plenty if examples in history of people with shockingly average lives that committed some of the biggest crimes. They might be rare, but bad eggs can exist.

  • @TheChief005
    @TheChief005 4 года назад +6

    We give children guns.

    • @bwu45
      @bwu45 4 года назад +3

      that would be a major fuckfest...

    • @MesmericDevelopment
      @MesmericDevelopment 4 года назад +2

      I fully agree I've been shooting since I was five sentencing children to death is just wrong if they can't fight back.

    • @ragedaniel5475
      @ragedaniel5475 3 года назад

      Yeah, THIS is the problem

  • @danerietel6338
    @danerietel6338 2 года назад

    How to prevent school shootings
    Stop prescribing anti depressants and psychotropics

  • @lwandlezondi9658
    @lwandlezondi9658 Год назад

    Or you can make guns in accessible.

  • @ragedaniel5475
    @ragedaniel5475 3 года назад +2

    It's badly funny that she didn't even consider like idk make guns illegal, or simply the assault rifles (those guns made up for killing as many people as possible). She said all right things about prevention and mental health policy but it's not enough. Some might say: "we have to solve the root of these problems" and I agree but it's a fact that if there are no guns there will be less shootings.

    • @williamadams8353
      @williamadams8353 2 года назад

      You would do this how? Pixie dust, unicorn horn? You can't put that genie back in the bottle. It is codified law at a bedrock level, and all the wishful thinking in the world won't change that fact.

    • @owljones3389
      @owljones3389 Год назад +1

      "If there are no guns." - good luck with that. Also, Britain has a knife problem now with the killings there. You gonna ban knives next? What then? Ban rocks? Cars? swords?

    • @williamadams8353
      @williamadams8353 Год назад

      @@owljones3389 More like independent thought!

  • @franciscop.9745
    @franciscop.9745 3 года назад

    It's got nothing to do with statistics it is a mindset someone has and actually follows through with the urge to kill. Everyone has been so mad they've thought violent thoughts. The only thing people seem to do is put a label on someone and then wonder why someone would do something like that. It's not a national thing it's a community issue. We need to treat each other better.

  • @80sDweeb
    @80sDweeb 2 года назад

    How does this video exist, yet RUclips has only managed to show it 44k times in 2 years? Does she have to be twerking for RUclips to promote this essential information?

  • @mohammadsareh4732
    @mohammadsareh4732 Год назад

    The true cause of school shootings is that they take place in schools, so do the false teachings take place in schools. These are parallel to one another. " Man is caught in the meshes of customes, superstitions, selfish desires, and false teaching. This may make him pugnacious, unclean, false, slavish hankering after what is wrong or forbidden, and deflected from the love of his-fellow-men and the pure worship of the One True God."

  • @officialsquadrilogystudio
    @officialsquadrilogystudio 7 месяцев назад

    You guys let Columbine Mom have a Ted Talk about parenting and school sh***ers. I dont think you're qualified to be telling us anything about this subject matter.

  • @anccert
    @anccert 4 года назад +2

    You’re conflating relatively small data based off of no central data base. There is no data that says reactionary behavior prevents mass shootings. Therefore you are assuming that reactionary behavior is ineffective. You say that the data is there and that these techniques don’t work. You’re taking a small data group and inflating it to enormous numbers. I agree with you and I don’t agree to lock-down drills. The problem is to keep saying research, then saying the research is there to prove my point, but really there is no research other than perceived opinions and lack of data due to a low data set. Is your research based off of interviews of feelings of a singular event, multiplied many times?