For the map progression, you could look at completing the atlas in white maps. If you do all white maps, kirak's uncompleted maps reroll will force yellow/red maps to roll as t5 maps. So you can run them as rare/corrupted rare t5 maps and still get the atlas point.
Yeah this will at least get a ton of yellows done easily. Getting corrupted rare maps that you can still run might be tough, but t5s for yellow maps should be good.
I think some past guantlets weren't very interesting because of quick boss clears, so obviously they're trying to avoid that form happening. They might have gone too far this time. I don't blame Ziz though, trying to balance these gauntlets to very difficult, but not impossible is an insanely hard job. Off the top of my head one of my favorite gauntlets was expedition, when steel killed all the ubers on the last day after everyone else had failed.
The Gauntlet is the most fucked it's ever been, absolutely insanity, crazy difficult mods. "Alkaizer's gonna win this one" Damn, is this Alkaziers specialty?
It is pronounced in one word in my language, so i can understand that). Not sure about why Ben does that though. His main language is English, isn't it?
@@awemowe2830 now that one is because he is British. Wait, or is he?. Now i have several people mixed in head. Anyways. You also read sign as s-ai-n, not s-i:-n You can also enter Sirus in Google translate and hear it be S-ai-rus.
Every time I see the stats for Gauntlet I always wonder what the hell is wrong with yall to even try it, and this is so much better and even Ben is talking about how you *will die* and should just accept it as a farming tool.
That's just insane. Bosses will nuke you from orbit with that especialy paired with the other modifiers. Mini uber bosses basicly. You have to overlevel by alot to withstand that. I can see alot of people go PF (for ele flasks) or jugg (for armor applies to ele hits).
Confirmed abyss will not go hog wild with the gauntlet mods: From Patch Notes 3.23.1 The "Additional Monster Projectiles" Private League modifier no longer causes Stygian Spires to fire additional projectiles. This modifier is once again available when creating a new Private League, and existing Private Leagues with this modifier will have this re-enabled shortly after this patch is deployed.
I'm shocked it's already Gauntlet time... I feel like the time's passing at an accelerated pace somehow. I've managed to literally make a single HC character so far and die somewhere in red maps.
I could not see myself in HC this league - the juice is so damn juicy, but as HC I wouldn't risk it, effectively locking myself out of the entire reason why I'm not on standard :')
@@alvinlepik5265which is fine. You can complete yellow and Red maps as white maps from kirac, as long as they are rare and corrupted. Just have to complete all whites first for him to offer it.
I feel like PF will be the strongest “if” rng gods are on whoever tries to go full throttle with its side feel like an early 5 link bow just wins if scaled correctly through all topics you mentioned.
"if you have to do feared with theese mods i guess if its a good tileset you could do it" - wrong, ben could do it. ppl die with mirror tier gear without theese aleready lol
You said Champ/Jugg/PF for options. Do you think guardian is in there also due to sentinel giving early damage and 20% reduced damage from hits like fortify. Or does champion have the edge with the flat armour and evasion and aura effect to scale determ + grace ?
@seifeir6951 yeah I guess that's actually a super valid point. The builds like srs champion that worked in prior gauntlets have clusters so minions are immune for a few seconds so those are fine for example. Do you think this actually means srs champion is better than srs guardian ? Since in SSF HC srs guardian is sort of king.
He sikes everyone out. He does it every gauntlet. Ben mindset is already in the Gauntlet by making everyone worried about their own build. He's going to just breeze through it like he does with every other one he played in
@Ben your thoughs on trans burning arrow ignite chieftain? Its possible to get 88-89% all max res just with purity and tree, scale damage by hp and even get 60 suppression. On SC bis version with 22k hp / 40kk dps. Hidden tech is spam ballistas for big recoup. So idea is you get all stuff from tree and ascendancy and swap it later with gear.
So what is this loreweave srs champion build then ? Is this the poision srs champion that won gauntlet a while back ? Or is it the new elemental srs champion that uses the 30% aura effect + divine blessing + generosity for massive flat damage from smite / anger / wrath ?
@@RartherTallWhiteMan you need to hit a LOT for the poison to stack up. poison scales infinitely so you need as many hits as possible within your poison duration. the 6 minion limit is a HUGE damage nerf.
I think you misunderstood poison. There is nothing magical with hitting fast to stack as many poisons as possible, that's a thing of the past with unlimited poison stacking assassin. If you hit 10 poison stacks or 5 makes no difference as long as the 5 poisons are twice as big as the small hits that generated the 10 stack.
@willdevine8266 I was actually thinking you would go ele hit based not Poison for this. However yeah going from 20 srs to 6 is actually quite a loss if you go for flat damage also.
@@Zylosio Yeah u might be right i just assumed it would equal to 0 like if a support gem has over 100% less damage in pob you basicly deal 0 damage or if it was 110% you would deal negative damage.
There's no way trickster will work without a ton of gear. Evasion just isn't good enough here, which trickster relies on pretty heavily. With no access to max res or other forms of pure mitigation, you'll be back on the beach in no time.
i mean my chief (no shield and 1/2 of the gear/flasks are mf stuff / no mageblood) sits in t16 3-6k+ juiced maps tanking 10 rares at once with +proj abysses and shit and my hp dosnt really move at all and im not even abusing petrified blood. the point is that 500%explosion will carry any map you can go pure defense chief and all that is no problem, but yeah uber bosses with potential atziri ambushes gonna be hard, prolly warlock and kill ubers with that 500%explosion and this curse that summons minions to explode.
For the map progression, you could look at completing the atlas in white maps. If you do all white maps, kirak's uncompleted maps reroll will force yellow/red maps to roll as t5 maps. So you can run them as rare/corrupted rare t5 maps and still get the atlas point.
Yeah this will at least get a ton of yellows done easily. Getting corrupted rare maps that you can still run might be tough, but t5s for yellow maps should be good.
wait you can do that? thats good to know @@TraxisOnTheLines
This might be the strat for gauntlet.
@@krusty6649 I found this out playing around with Kirac last league and was like "Excuse me?!". Serves me right for ignoring the guy from the start.
Anyone else thinking that at this point they just making the gauntlet harder to limit test Ben?..
i agree
🤣
nah, i just think they wanna giga mf with that +4 proj
@@MikFischer It's a private league so the proj mod doesn't affect Abyss as per the latest patch notes IIRC.
@@adamtennant4936as fair as I’m aware that’s solely for affliction based private leagues
2nd half of the campaign got some banger uber bosses
Time to skip Vilenta and Yugol again xd
every gauntlet we assumed that no one gonna win then Ben ended it day 3
Ngl perma 60% haste on enemies in yellows sounds miserable af.
wonder if that's why it's called misery league? Thonk.
Spec kirac and pray you get enough charges and explorer's scouting reports in to skip yellows
Dude is thinking about doing Mageblood Valdo maps while I'm here hoping Hailrake doesn't tear me a new one, he's just built different
Maven has the best advice for this boss: STAND STILL! (until he shoots)
Although with multiproj, yeah it's gon suck.
Increased AoE Atziris Apparitions in the maven fight sounds like hell
Dodging giant atziri spells on exarch, UE, shaper sounds like dogshit
Gives me flashbacks to maven patch and doing feared for the first time.
I think some past guantlets weren't very interesting because of quick boss clears, so obviously they're trying to avoid that form happening. They might have gone too far this time. I don't blame Ziz though, trying to balance these gauntlets to very difficult, but not impossible is an insanely hard job. Off the top of my head one of my favorite gauntlets was expedition, when steel killed all the ubers on the last day after everyone else had failed.
Ziz literally said its not expected for anyone to clear, hence the setting.
The Gauntlet is the most fucked it's ever been, absolutely insanity, crazy difficult mods.
"Alkaizer's gonna win this one"
Damn, is this Alkaziers specialty?
Alk has the patience to farm 9 days and then just send it on the 10th. That's what Ben said on stream.
He has the power of the Gralliboar, be aware
Alkaizer is probobly the happiest he's ever been finally getting some difficulty
@DeXter315 that makes sense, he will just outlast everyone and then send it. Can't wait to see his 8.8khp character on day two
I finally realized what separates me from Ben. He pronounces it "pawb" and I say "P O B" - hard to be good like that.
It is pronounced in one word in my language, so i can understand that).
Not sure about why Ben does that though. His main language is English, isn't it?
He also says POE as "poh" and not "pee oh ee". So one more step to go ;)
he also says "sairus" instead of "sirus"
apparently being illiterate/dumb is = being good at PoE
@@awemowe2830 now that one is because he is British. Wait, or is he?. Now i have several people mixed in head.
Anyways. You also read sign as s-ai-n, not s-i:-n
You can also enter Sirus in Google translate and hear it be S-ai-rus.
its called being efficient.
Imagine wasting time and energy on mouth movement that isnt needed.
Every time I see the stats for Gauntlet I always wonder what the hell is wrong with yall to even try it, and this is so much better and even Ben is talking about how you *will die* and should just accept it as a farming tool.
As a spectator, I’m excited. If I were to play, misery is a fitting name for how I’d feel 😂
15% ele pen in campain with multiproj sounds ROUGH
That's just insane. Bosses will nuke you from orbit with that especialy paired with the other modifiers. Mini uber bosses basicly. You have to overlevel by alot to withstand that. I can see alot of people go PF (for ele flasks) or jugg (for armor applies to ele hits).
Now, just hear me out - Flicker Strike Rider! They can't kill what they can't hit! :)
What if your not competeing, would penance brand pathfinder be the go to as inquisitor is prob to squishy?
These maps mods and uber bosses mods are so terrifying, but thats fine. I dont even survive the mudflat.
mudflats are the greatest challenge.
Confirmed abyss will not go hog wild with the gauntlet mods:
From Patch Notes 3.23.1
The "Additional Monster Projectiles" Private League modifier no longer causes Stygian Spires to fire additional projectiles. This modifier is once again available when creating a new Private League, and existing Private Leagues with this modifier will have this re-enabled shortly after this patch is deployed.
GGG saw it coming man.
I'll do Izaro whenever he has the two-hand mace.
I'm terrified of Act 1, Act 2, and yellow maps. If I can make it to yellow maps, I'll consider this gauntlet a success.
When ben says its a brutal gauntlet,i dont even have to try lmao
classic Ben propaganda before he clears it day 3 (kappa)
I'm shocked it's already Gauntlet time... I feel like the time's passing at an accelerated pace somehow. I've managed to literally make a single HC character so far and die somewhere in red maps.
I could not see myself in HC this league - the juice is so damn juicy, but as HC I wouldn't risk it, effectively locking myself out of the entire reason why I'm not on standard :')
sitting here with my popcorn waiting for the ben_ drama review
Ive always appreciated ben as someone who generally didnt care about the drama and was just a gamer through and through
Ziz kinda went overboard.
You could just complete atlas while farming white maps with kirac
You get white map Kirac missions when you farm white maps.
@@alvinlepik5265 every explorer's scouting report = +1 atlas completion
@@alvinlepik5265which is fine. You can complete yellow and Red maps as white maps from kirac, as long as they are rare and corrupted. Just have to complete all whites first for him to offer it.
@@alvinlepik5265 yea but when you reroll maps with a report and all ur white maps are complete itll take yellow and red maps as t5
@@alvinlepik5265 you can complete red and yellow maps in white kirac missions with scouting reports
I feel like PF will be the strongest “if” rng gods are on whoever tries to go full throttle with its side feel like an early 5 link bow just wins if scaled correctly through all topics you mentioned.
"if you have to do feared with theese mods i guess if its a good tileset you could do it" - wrong, ben could do it. ppl die with mirror tier gear without theese aleready lol
You said Champ/Jugg/PF for options. Do you think guardian is in there also due to sentinel giving early damage and 20% reduced damage from hits like fortify. Or does champion have the edge with the flat armour and evasion and aura effect to scale determ + grace ?
How tanky is the guardian minion? I feel like it’s just going to die to all the shit added by the mods
@seifeir6951 yeah I guess that's actually a super valid point. The builds like srs champion that worked in prior gauntlets have clusters so minions are immune for a few seconds so those are fine for example.
Do you think this actually means srs champion is better than srs guardian ?
Since in SSF HC srs guardian is sort of king.
@@RartherTallWhiteManDon't play srs so I don't have the faintest idea. I play elementalist in softcore SSF lol
Who have Ruetoo stream in the bookmarks?
what is the armour applies to chaos dmg taken thing he was talking about for Jugg? edit: it's the armour + energy shield mastery
60% haste soul eaters gonna get absolutely stooooopid
Never played gauntlets, do those mods on maps give respective quant and rarity?
They do not. It's all "downside" with no compensating upside other than the satisfaction of overcoming the challenge itself.
Atziri on top of those Uber Bosses "mods"
He sikes everyone out. He does it every gauntlet.
Ben mindset is already in the Gauntlet by making everyone worried about their own build.
He's going to just breeze through it like he does with every other one he played in
I'm excited to see everyone sweat in this gauntlet
when does the gauntlet start?
02/02 next friday
could we please get the chat on screen during talk of exile? thanks.
wonder if its worth to get tictures on like a pathfinder even if just early
can u set up this for a practice league or they dont have the options for this gauntlet on there
just get 100+ atlas points in white maps, it just takes a month or so, totally fine in a race
salute good luck
Flicker strike of Power trauma Jug XD
Whoever gets rank 1 witch is legit the biggest chad.
ziz says gautlet will make Ben rich again
@Ben your thoughs on trans burning arrow ignite chieftain? Its possible to get 88-89% all max res just with purity and tree, scale damage by hp and even get 60 suppression. On SC bis version with 22k hp / 40kk dps. Hidden tech is spam ballistas for big recoup. So idea is you get all stuff from tree and ascendancy and swap it later with gear.
are valdo maps rly affeted coz valdo maps are lvl 84 not lvl 83 they write exactly the lvl and valdo is the only map that is lvl 84
Ben needs to play ruthless with gauntlet mods
So what is this loreweave srs champion build then ?
Is this the poision srs champion that won gauntlet a while back ?
Or is it the new elemental srs champion that uses the 30% aura effect + divine blessing + generosity for massive flat damage from smite / anger / wrath ?
poison SRS. it wont be playable this gauntlet though (for collecting prizes) because you need to use a trans gem.
@@willdevine8266 could you not use the trans srs for it ?
The one that has max 6 but they always crit ?
@@RartherTallWhiteMan you need to hit a LOT for the poison to stack up. poison scales infinitely so you need as many hits as possible within your poison duration. the 6 minion limit is a HUGE damage nerf.
I think you misunderstood poison. There is nothing magical with hitting fast to stack as many poisons as possible, that's a thing of the past with unlimited poison stacking assassin. If you hit 10 poison stacks or 5 makes no difference as long as the 5 poisons are twice as big as the small hits that generated the 10 stack.
@willdevine8266 I was actually thinking you would go ele hit based not Poison for this. However yeah going from 20 srs to 6 is actually quite a loss if you go for flat damage also.
Im second! Just like Ben won't be....
bonezone!
does the "increased aoe" apply when searing exarch does "incineration"?
yes, but its not a problem.
what Ben is saying is that champion toxic rain is the play
does trickster work on all the turbo mods?
why yellow maps have morre atk speed/cast speed than red maps ? huh
Finally, something to challenge god? :)
Chieften ea lets goo
why not penance brand trickster or something similar?
Penance Brand is banned
Trickster doesn't care about monster haste when they are nearby. Still have to worry about off screen mobs though.
The node limits action speed, which is different from attack, cast, and move speed.
Last gauntlet i got to act 9 this time i want to complete the campaign but...😅
No DD = no good builds xdd
nice to hear you'll actually be challenged
im gonna get 90 with winterorb... i dont care! mark my words
I'm first! Just like ben will be....
white maps easier than campaign haha
How does ubers work with 110% less damage taken? Since its not reduced does this not make it impossible?
less is multiplicative, if it was reduced it would be impossible
@@Zylosio Yeah u might be right i just assumed it would equal to 0 like if a support gem has over 100% less damage in pob you basicly deal 0 damage or if it was 110% you would deal negative damage.
@@justkiddingmate4382 its not 1 thing its 2 mods multiplying the dmg you do
@@Zylosio I assumed it would stack since its the same description on the mod im stupid then mb.
@@Zylosio im pretty sure the mods don't stack
Imagine the abyss MF with that +4 proj mann INSANEE
no
proj doesnt apply to spires, its been mentioned
is this HC as usual?
Yeah, SSF HC
I wanted to yolo a trickster but maybe not we'll see xd
There's no way trickster will work without a ton of gear. Evasion just isn't good enough here, which trickster relies on pretty heavily. With no access to max res or other forms of pure mitigation, you'll be back on the beach in no time.
@@Sporrik I know this but I'll still give a try and lose some time xd
Are those numbers right? 60% does seem insane...
i mean my chief (no shield and 1/2 of the gear/flasks are mf stuff / no mageblood) sits in t16 3-6k+ juiced maps tanking 10 rares at once with +proj abysses and shit and my hp dosnt really move at all and im not even abusing petrified blood. the point is that 500%explosion will carry any map you can go pure defense chief and all that is no problem, but yeah uber bosses with potential atziri ambushes gonna be hard, prolly warlock and kill ubers with that 500%explosion and this curse that summons minions to explode.
but the case is, there is a rule that prevents u using any dmg output rather than main skill, including that explode from chieftain and occu )
winner of the gauntlet right here
@@gameanalytic wait what ? thats a rule xd ? just for bosses or for mapping too ?
@@wondr347 naa im way too old but like 10-12 years ago i would prolly try my luck : )
@@lolleonlolable just for boss points
I still dont understand why is this a thing when ruthless exists
This is the entire ruthless league condensed into a week
@@seifeir6951 But harder
@@MasterChief-ie2xu i think that hinges on whether ubers have been killed in affliction ruthless or not
Gauntlet is hardcore, right?
HCSSF, yes
ssfhc
same boring stuff like every time, just a little harder
Personally think this is a bit far in tuning.