2014 Personality Lecture 02: Mythological Representations
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- The world as a place of action is represented by mythological characters: nature, culture and the individual (mother, father and son).
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This man is literally synthesizing so many pieces of information. I wonder just how much he has read and thought about it all to get to this point. Thank you Jordan.
Just study the lobsters and you'll gain the same articulation and knowledge.
This man is a rare genius. A fascinating and entertaining lecture.
All geniuses are rare
You know these are not his ideas
It’s the same comment under every single lecture 😂
@@descartes797 Let’s see you articulate these ideas in such a cohesive manner while also capturing the audience and eliciting an emotion response from them. Yeah, you won’t do it. People love to make such petty judgements. It’s actually quite an asinine statement. How could you claim that Dr. Peterson is taking credit for these ideas when all he does is do his best to credit culture and society. Not to mention he will also credit people for direct quotes or tell you who’s idea he’s trying to elucidate.
Was happy he got an applause at the end. Dude's an amazing lecturer.
You know, I have never seen students applause their professor.
Thats new for me, and its consistent.
Dr. Jordan Peterson, Im truthfully grateful for youre lectures.
I went to a University myself and I have to agree with you. I am in the field of behavioral psychology, and never once did I ever have a class applaud any Professor. 😐. It is a Peterson phenomenon.🙌👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
5:25 , truth 25:30, scientific objectivity 29:30, categorizing fear 33:30, two systems to classify realty 40:10, archetypes 52:30, Egyptian deity, English law, culture, etc 55:40, dominance hierarchy 1:00:40
Thank you
Thank you 🤍
Legend
Thank you!
Very useful
When I feel sad, depressed, anxious, or lost... my medicine is coming here to watch/listen to you. Forever grateful
Hey. I know this might not help but I'll try anyway. You seeking help within his videos and even just seeking help out in the world, like you're doing when you look in the interwebs, are steps in the right direction already. You hang in there and you be the amazing human you were meant to be 🙌🙌🔥🔥.
Love this
I wish you find friends and people around you who love you! They hug you and tell you that you matter for them. They hug you and you feel love. We need love more than suggestions how to feel better and what you should do.
The knowledge I get from these lectures is mind-opening
and mind blowing!
Hey , I just a comment six years , in six year what has changed in your life?
I'm wanting to get a tattoo and am seeking the advice of every intelligent/deep person I can find (as vauge as that may be)
Could you share with me a symbol or artwork/ image that you find meaningful and of beautiful. I seriously appreciate your ideas
Mind-bogglingly boggled*
I feel like i should be paying for this
Patreon
You should. It’s at a university. We are blessed
You can, so you should.
@@MrDark720 definitely couldn’t afford Harvard 😅 I wish.
@Bill Stevens I like you
1:01:01 "Songbirds are in dominance hierarchies. You know, you hear them singing in the spring? It's all pretty. It's NOT!"
😂
One problem with dominance hierarchy with humans: if you high in the hierarchy because you were born in it, you maybe weak as hell with entitlement as strong as drug addiction. With humans, it can be multiple generations that you are living in your hierarchy because of inheritance. That is why democracy and upward mobility creates not just "justice", but resilience. The whole society benefits from it.
The ability of being able to know that much knowledge about specific topics and his method of presenting the material is mind-blowing.... I'm watching this entire course in order to learn as much about myself as possible I'm two videos in and completely mind blown. I'm able to understand what he is saying.... I comprehend the lecture.... It's just the way he puts it all together that takes my thinking so out of the box and makes me focus on certain aspects of myself that I limit myself to only one video at a time in order to fully absorb the material..... Once I've had all the ah ha moments from the lecture, only then do I move on to the next one.... I am loving it 😊
I discovered Dr. Peterson RUclips classroom lectures way back when he was a professor posting online for students. I must say, it’s been extraordinary to witness him gain world wide regard.
The density of information presented in your lecture is excruciatingly pleasant , thanks:-)
Do you knw others like him?
yes, Alain the Botton - Swiss-British philosopher, ca. 40 years old. Brilliant, entertaining (established School of Life - on youtube, too).
or Dr. Russel Barkley, expert on ADHD - absolutely brilliant (und understandable) rhetoric.
I'm wanting to get a tattoo and am seeking the advice of every intelligent/deep person I can find (as vauge as that may be)
Could you share with me a symbol or artwork/ image that you find meaningful and of beautiful. I seriously appreciate your ideas
@@meinungabundance7696 thank you
The amount of information that Jordan peterson can cram in a lecture is incredible. I'm sure it's not his first rodeo, but it's so impressive to listen and understand his thought process from beginning to end. I also like how it's a lecture with no questions.
He has been doing this lecture (or kind of lecture) since around 1992 at Harvard. You can see the 1996 lecture series from Harvard on his channel if you look down the playlists. He has also given short TV-based lectures since the 1990s I think, with some notable ones from 2011 and prior, along with all his stuff from 2011-2013 on The Agenda show (also on his channel), and this lecture, in part, comes from his 1999 book, Maps of Meaning, which he began in 1985 (it's the book he uses in the 1996 lecture), and it's the name of his other lecture series of the same name, of course. So, no, it's not his first rodeo at all. He has been a world-class Jungian thinker and public speaker and teacher since the 1990s.
@@TheClassicWorld He's actually not a Jungian thinker, its a common misconception
Man, looking back at these lectures you can see how much of a difference his carnivore diet has made.
you mean he's now healthier?
@Onuorah Ikechukwu he mentioned on a joe rogan podcast that the carnivore got rid of his chronic diseases and made him much healthier
@Onuorah Ikechukwu Jordan Peterson wasn't actually doing a carnivore diet, He only ate he ate greens and meats. That might still be a carnivore diet but I know he ate greens.
@Onuorah Ikechukwu he basically didnt eat any sugar and minimum carbohydrates, he ate fish and leafy greens. I'm not talking about the diet being good, I was just pointing out that he ate greens as well.
@@brandonpalfi8106 He gave up greens at the end too
Hello, can you imagine the fact that you can actually attend to an university level class just by accessing RUclips? Now that s something!
The collective unconscious contains much of who we are and who we are to become. Great lecture.
Thank God he posted these on youtube
Last year I had spent june by listening to Robert Sapolski's lectures, I absolutely recomend this to you all clever folk, and I like this the same. Thank you for sharing, in other words, thank you for doing what knowledge was created to, to be shared and ennoblemented.
Hey
Thanks for the recommendation, I have completed those, any other good lecture series recommendations?
@@aryansetu3902 Awakening from the meaning crisis 😎
@@aryansetu3902 try some krishnamurti talks.
Peterson knows Psychology so well - such an authority and an even better teacher. His brain is like that golden finch thingy in HP. Unwilling to swallow up the smaller while swirling and coherently guiding people through the hermetic riddles of his field, he has obviously dedicated his whole life Res et Sacrimentum; dudes got C3P0 giving him the odds while putting the classroom into a hiperdrive of understanding. I have studied so much Psychology and I love it, wow. It's so easy to get digested by the ego which surges you deep into wisdom and undertanding, pretentiousness, disallowed to actually touch upon it and help others completely share in it. Cant wait for his University to Open so I can do the dance without spending half a billion dollars
I enjoy watching your videos. The way you present the information is delightful. Thank you for uploading!
Harvey Otamendi My pleasure! Add me on Grindr!
this is the hardest lecture i ever attended. good god. but it was worth every pause and rewind ;
This is Jordan Peterson in his highest form for me.
I understand why he moved more to the political realm, and his opinion is obviously useful in those discussions, but the topic's he deals with today are messy and it's very easy to draw an unfavourable misrepresentation of him.
“She’s categorized as unpredictable and a chronic threat...” followed by uncomfortable yet knowing laughter 😂😂😂
This reminds me so much of Joseph Campbell but in easily digestible, applicable and fun lecture! Thank you so much for sharing this on youtube! Such an intellectual treat
By the way, in case you didn't figure it out already (since this comment is 2-years-old), Jordan is not like Campbell much and doesn't like Campbell very much because he thinks Campbell isn't deep or dark enough, unlike Jung. I think Jordan is closer to Jung and much darker and deeper than Campbell ever was. The problem with Campbell and many others like him is that they only tell half the story and view the world too much in the positive and don't give enough time to the negative side, of the Self, for example.
You will notice this is partly why Star Wars is so bright and not as dark as it could/should be as Lucas based Star Wars largely from Campbell, when he should have spent years longer on it and gone directly to Jung and others, though the lightness did help Star Wars become insanely popular, of course, and I think it's deep and dark enough, as Lucas did a great job overall and at many levels with Star Wars 1-6. He studied Campbell for 2 years in making the first Star Wars film. But, if it was darker, it would have been The Lord of the Rings in space and a true masterpiece for all time, regardless of the format, but, instead, Star Wars is more like Narnia in space and not quite as dark and deep, and tends to only show half the story and doesn't dig deep enough into either nature or the evil within oneself, whereas, The Lord of the Rings got it all perfectly right. But, I digress.
@@TheClassicWorld Once i watched a lot of Jordans Hero/ Mythology and similar lectures i could help but to see how influenced by Campbell he is. But its probably true that he doesn't like him much because he never mentions him, whilst building off of his work
27:00 onwards is pure gold
Is it common for students to clap at the end of lectures? My university courses only have about eight students so we just say thanks.
When I went to college, we didn't say anything. Only the teacher said goodbye. The lectures were nowhere near as interesting as these, however.
Here in Germany (University of Dresden) we do not clap at the end, we knock instead on the tables when the professor is done (that's a university thing more or less though, in other placed germans clap just as normal people ; )
I clapped at home after watching this. This is beyond any lecture i ever had in my entire life
@Jay Bee I thought Jordan Peterson went to Harvard. Am I mistaken about that?
@@gifctdotorgthought-police3706 Nope. And yes he went!
It's really extraordinary. I'm watching all of the videos from Jordan's channel in chronological order and have just finished watching the Harvard years Maps of Meaning series and you can see the massive difference in the students.
The students in MOM from Harvard are so much more mature than the students in this video. I get why they are laughing in this video but you can tell how much more fragile they are as human beings. The mind-bending that has gone on in higher education establishments is painfully obvious by the difference in the students' reactions.
Didn't watch these videos yet, but couldn't be the case that the educational environment now is more friendly and they feel allowed to laugh?
Great observation
Imagine viewing these lectures and focusing primarily on the audience’s reaction as opposed to the subject matter discussed lol what a pitiful waste.
@@3Drives Perhaps, but its definitely the case that Harvard students take their education a lot more seriously and it would be frowned upon to laugh about such serious subject matter in that environment
@@padarousoupsychology prof walks in and says “good morning.” The class says “good morning.” Engineering prof walks in and says “good morning” and the class all write it down in their notes. ;)
@29:00 "You can't define truth in any other way than that which serves life. That's it!" This is so to the point I can't believe it. So many people preach so many useless philosophies that do not align with this statement and then they wonder why things aren't working out right for them. I personally use ONLY this principle when I form my worldviews, I just couldn't put it so succintly. Anything else is a waste of time in this short life on this Earth. The way he tackles such essential topics with such a down-to-earth attitude, and shares them publicly just blows me away ...
But how is that truth? Just because something avails you in life, doesn't mean it's true. It's just beneficial. And those benefits also seem to be precarious. Perhaps what benefits you now would endanger you in the future. Even immoral acts can serve your life and make it better, does that make it true as well?
thanks so much for the uploads!
Most lectures in Uni will typically have maybe one or two five minute excerpts that really inspire your interest and pursuit for knowledge, Jordan is simply an endless fountain of these. A living embodiment of phenomena
Jordan Peterson is a wordsmith master ✅👌
Watched first 2 lessons. Best few hours of my life in years !!!
Meaning signifies that you're in the right place at the right time.
Terence McKenna made a similar point and folks said he was a madman for it. “The world is made of language.”
I never saw this lecture, and I take great pride knowing all of his work. -‘that’s not always the case I should say’
I’m keep grinding through knowledge Jordan shares !
I LOVE 💕 LISTENING TO ALL OF JORDAN’S RIVERS OF GLITTERING WISDOM
I Love ❤️ Peterson ‘s thought.
No matter where you are the boundaries of your knowledge only extends so far.
I think it's interesting how nature has already set in some fundamental rules that we unconsciously apply everyday. Like the way that we've evolved over millions of years to be weary of snakes
I can’t believe he gives us these knowledge gems for FREE.
i totally agree with everything everyone in the comments says
Love this! I just wonder if he's right about why the feminine represents possibility. It could be that men have sort of been the narrators of our mythology. It has always been from their perspective. If it were from a woman's perspective, men could likely represent possibility. Same for how he talks about the feminine representing the unconscious & the dark unknown. From a woman's perspective, men would be the violent unknowable and unpredictable unconscious. Because you know, we are consciously feminine. Why does this matter? Well, from a perspective of history like Foucault's, we need to understand the forces that motivated what history was written and how it was written so that we can do a better job of learning from it.
"It could be that men have sort of been the narrators of our mythology. It has always been from their perspective."
It could have been. it could have been otherwise. That's what needs to be checked before proceeding any further with your thoughts.
(This may come out above my previous post, but is intended to follow on from it.)
And also, even if it were to demonstrable that men have been the main narrators of the mythology, that wouldn't necessarily make the narrations themselves biased towards the male perspective. Finally, even if we could show that they had biased towards the male perspective, that doesn't prove anything along the lines that the male perspective itself is antagonistic towards females.
History from a women's perspective would not be too different. Philosophical ideas might be.
Foucault? As in Michel Foucault the same scum who wanted to abolish age of consent?
If you wonder about that makes me think you haven't read Jung for he states the unknown conscious is the opposite of the gender of the individual for the individual.
It's not because it's from a male perspective; it's because females present the possibility of a new life, they nurture offsprings, are more emotional and unpredictable.
Also historically the necessity of protecting women due to their vital function to the preservation of the species, literally forced humanity as a whole to explore the unknown in search for solutions to bring order into a rather chaotic world.
Women literally give birth to new forms, how can it not represent possibilities? It can give roots for an entirely new order. That said, it is possible to view feminine as order and masculine and chaos too, but I have a hard time seeing masculinity representing possibilities. Also, the point here is not masculine or feminine, but the constant juggle to an equilibrium.
All this golden information he has to bestow and all he is more widely know for is taking a stance against the very tyranny he is so well versed on. Sad times.
The Doctor is incredible, the person constantly moving the camera is my worst nightmare. Just stay on your subject and let him space back and forth, stop panning left and right and giving us all headaches. Anyone else?
I have to recommend the book "against method" by Paul Feyerabend, because of that what JP said at 30:00
I usually just jump around d JBP lectures but I’m going to study this series. It’s very interesting to me
I realized suddenly if i watched this entire series, I could pass every Psychology course offered by a university to a Bachelors degree and even then on to some Masters concepts.
I don't need to read a textbook every time, the Plato of our time speaks for free, for all, for all time, right here.
Fat Jordan Peterson is hilarious! He has non stop jokes both intentional and unintentional!
God I love Jordan Peterson.
38:47 that was hilarious they just proved him right
wow, incredible lecture!
Yin and yang, the more you take it approach of staying one foot in order and another in chaos, the more permeable you become to chaos because you can move through it.
Ive watched Krishnamurti, Healthygamergg, etc but jbp is THE master aof synthesizing vast amounts of infornation. So many things make sense and im only 2 vids deep in the course. I discovered JBP mant years ago but am still learning so many new things, and am able o better put them together. Its an endless process
Hm... Super Mario. Hero descends, fights reptile, rescues princess.
Yep. Nintendo is, partly, so popular because it goes the archetypes and storytelling correct, overall, and more so with regards to the West. That's why it's funny -- and insane -- when the radical types come out now trying to claim that Nintendo is 'sexist' and 'racist' and needs to be completely changed. They don't understand anything. Nintendo is very deep and got its psychology correct, that's what makes those little fun games so great. Jordan talks about this and other video games over the years, at least a little.
36:00 Celowość, zamiar związany z tym na co na kogo patrzysz determinuje to jak na to kogoś patrzysz i na co zwracasz uwagę. To jak patrzysz odkrywa Twoja Celowość. Odkryj i przywróć Celowość a percepcja się z tym zstroi.
1:14:00 NM Nie poprzez siłę a przez uwagę. Przeciwieństwo uwagi sen to kluczowe niebezpieczeństwo.
1:19:00 pay attention
23:15 and prior - *Materialistic/Deterministic view VS Moral view of the world*
*_Newton VS Others_*
- 25:28 - What constitutes truth
This man is dangerously eloquent.
This is pure intelligent poetry
Gold mine, this should be in a course structure
anybody knows where to find the reading list of the course?
Thanks Jordan!
awesome lecture. pay attention aka stfu and listen. lotta youth out there might not be able to do that because theres a war out for their attention. Hopefully they have good and wise people around them that can teach them.
Honestly thought it was a bottle of Heineken at the end 1:20:05
20:15 - *"What is the world made of ?"*
- World's made of matter (atoms)...and space (information).
3532 views compared to 2billion on gangnam style.. damn -.-
You're a few standard deviations from the mean.
Which could either be a compliment or an insult, which is kind of funny. :)
Emily Taege on the positive side of the distribution lol.
so??
Closing on 35 000 right now, I do hope to see this transformed into a true online university with hundreds of thousands of views on dozens of professors debating theyr views and knowledge.
57:00-59:00 so good
So it’s plague time, in relation to the songbird bit, what if we stressed out the black people so much during the George Floyd media timeframe that it increased the death rate by a lot + already probably being in low status.
I suffer because psychological educated people like J.P., never seem to know the first thing about tecnical computer issues, like..how to keep the voluem of the video in the WATCHABLE level.
2014.. much simpler times
18:00 Death and rebirth
Excuse me professor Peterson, are you a Junguian Analyst?
Think about all the Nihilistic people you know. What have they accomplished? Yea....I think I can delete half my contact list if not 90% of it.
Hello could you add CC caption please I'm not a native speaker and the information in your videos are life changing I need them please ♥️
When you touch the screen, on the right upper corner, you have a ⚙️ (if you touch this, you can change the speed, if you want to take more time to listen. Oh! Here is an option to turn on capture too.)
in the middle, you see two cc in a box. Click on it, thas is caption.
7:30 Not everyone is the same, Jordan.
People are scared of what they don't understand.
Genetics can change over time.
Even the interactions in his videos aren’t normally distributed
thanks
He is very cool 😂
If this lecture speaks to you, look into spiral dynamics
They don't know that we know they know we know
Finna graduate from the university of RUclips this year
Random question. Is collectivism the attempt at a sort of immortality? If I join the collective then I am the collective and the collective is me. Thus the collective much be eternal so that I am eternal? And in the process of eternal I must seek purity and higharchy of morality. The only way to be pure is to destroy corruption. And to destroy corruption, someone gotta die.
I think collectivism is the inability to understand how different we are. When you think if everybody would think the same way, it would be just wonderful. That is "purity" too. To have that one, perfect way of being. Which is delusional because people will be always different, we like different things, we have different personalities, we have different hormones, different things make us happy... "If everyone would think the same way as I, it would be a peaceful world", said all who supported totalitarian regimes. The only way to have one vision is to suppress everybody else. And it is always ugly.
Purity culture is sexual abstinence, but emphasizing some kind of flawless, imaginary, childish state that is unreal.
Collectivism is when the individual diminished and being part of the group is emphasized.
Who is still listening to this❤
Anyone else triggered by the loud breathing by (I assume) the camera operator?
Fucking annoying lol
57:30
Can someone please write down the definition of mental health JP gives at the very end of his lecture? I have difficulty hearing and understanding the whole of the complicated sentence leading to his announcement: "That's the definition of mental health". Thank you.
1:07:00 nought point eight wow!
Awesome
what's the paint on the background at the beginning of the lesson?
18:00
That is why you can't have 1 teacher or one way of thinking. That is why critical thinking is superior to dogma. How to think, not what to think. Even then, things can go wrong. Nobody is safe from change or safe from not changing when it is time. Your teacher can represent one side of the spectrum, he can change and over do the side he is on. You as a person will change through your life. You are different when you a young adult and also when your responsibilities grow because you have family. Nobody knows everything and knowing itself should be different by your perception what you find important.
The world is complex, time is ever changing, challenges changing through history and every circumstance is different. Your possible solutions are different, your tools are different and the focus of your knowledge can be drastically different. Your responsibilities grow with your possibilities. You can't grow if all you care is to be right. You can't grow if your main concern is to "look good or wise" or whatever. You are good if you are good because it comes from "inside". You are not good if to be seen good is your priority. That is signaling, virtue signaling. Just because you went to a BLM march, you are maybe having desire to "signal to your peers" more than the actual "inner love" and your inner need for justice etc. Change is so damn hard, being cast out is so damn hard, paying for your values is not "happiness". If happiness is all what you are looking for, you will not just not grow, you regress every time there is a challenge. Life is like working on your "picture" of it. Your resolution, your pixels should be growing as you have more experience.
Your growth is different than an other person's. If you have tendencies for narcissism, to grow, you have to change differently compared to someone who is codependent.
This is the story of Cain and Abel --- the sacrifice is different too. That is why the Bible doesn't specify why was one's sacrifice accepted and not the other because it always changes with the circumstances. One is real, one is virtue signaling. Everything can be over or under done. It is stupid to give to someone when they don't appreciate it, when they spoil it, when you suffer from it more than how they are in need for it. If you codependent, you don't help the narcissist with dancing as they whistle. You don't help by walking on eggshells, you don't help by ruining your own health to make sure they don't get angry or jealous or what ever. You harm yourself and actually it harms them too because they learn they don't even have to try to regulate themselves. They just have to push harder and you will bow to them.
I support the rights of people who are gay, trans or anything that you were born with until it doesn't harm others or you not pushing yourself on others. You can be a selfish, narcissistic person no matter what is your sexual orientation. It is not right to demand that you were born into the wrong gender and people have to gather to you when you want to compete with the girls in swimming (Lia Thomas).
It is fascinating to see (and very sad) how people get cut up in certain areas of their life and how they morph into a different character because of it. I think it happened to JBP, Weinstein-s, Sam Harris too. They all have an area that they got stuck in their view and they see just a certain color, when there are much more to discover. They insist on the shade they know and regress. It is sad because of the regress, they are less open minded than before, or it becomes much more of an issue.
If you end up in an environment where people regress and insist that it is as they think it is, it is time to move and look for a healthier environment. It stops your growth and you don't thrive. You have the right to grow, nobody has the right to hold you back because it feels better for them not to be challenged.
I -probably- definitely too have areas where I don't see the whole picture. That area of my brain is not developed to process all the information. I may see only black and white, where are many more colors and shades. May I find a teacher to show it to me. That teacher will not be an inflexible narcissistic person who is stuck. I have allergy to them.
You can not say anything that can't be darvo-d. Even when you have the best intentions. It is normal to disagree, but there is different ways to do it. In narcissistic relationships it is war. I don't want to deal with narcissistic people because it is all lies, manipulation and there is no fairness in them. Even if you want to play fair, they will distort everything.
Some people say they don't hear anything when Peterson is talking. They hear only word salad. In this case here: they don't hear it because they don't grasp what was said. There are cases when he is wrong, because he doesn't get certain things others tell him. Like divorce. His parents had a good marriage, he has a good marriage. He didn't experience the damage or how ones life force can be drained by living in a way where you are a shadow of your own self. Until his daughter got divorced. (And probably it was not even a marriage where she was abused)
I used to like JBP so much! I miss the flexible (he was somewhat more flexible), always curious, eager to discover and pretty nice person he was (I loved seeing his love for Sam Harris :)! Even though their beliefs were different. I love seeing love when it doesn't come with forcing your own beliefs on others. Live and let live. Love and let others love as they please. Until it does not harm.)
He is so much more self assured and imposing.
24:14 that was said by laplace
49:20 Shakespearean motion
Does anyone know where I can get the readings
I was thinking the same thing.
Interesting - if you always see objects and people in the category: what would I DO with them, no wonder people dont have enough respect for other human beings.
I have never been aware of Isis as a god of the underworld. An older incarnation perhaps?
1:04:20
Lots of laughs!
50:00
Darwin never said that truth has meaning only inasmuch serves life's goals, survival and reproduction. On the contrary. He was not a pragmatist. He understood very well that truth is indifferent to these matters. And since he was convinced that evolution shaped human beings he was puzzled by the ability of people to see the truth. Truth serves no biological purpose. How could the ability of seeing the truth appear in human beings? How could the individual named Darwin be able to find the truth of the evolution? It does not make sense. He was never able to solve the paradox. It is unsolvable unless the idea of evolution is false.
Petre Catalin Logofatu Very interesting comment Petre. I've been quite surprised at the number of serious scientists (often atheists) that have serious problems with evolution. Search You Tube for John Lennox on Hawking or David Berlinski . I kinda like Rupert Sheldrake's idea of moprhogenesis.
***** Thank you for the link. I will watch the video. However, I think I should point out that the laissez-faire doctrine and the works of Adam Smith on political economy preceded the Origin of Species, and such economic doctrines have a lot in common with darwinism. I am not saying Darwin plagiarized Adam Smith but he lived in a time when such economic mentality was prevalent in the British society and most likely he was influenced by it. Letting the Irishmen starve during the Great Famine was justified by the English politicians on the basis of economic ethics. Humanitarian aid for Ireland was seen as encouraging the survival of the economically unfit. To be fair, a truly similar evolutionist ethics, a laissez-faire for life forms, was proposed only much later by Carl Sagan.
Fred Cory Berlinski, Sheldrake and others like them attack the idea of evolution on scientific grounds for being improbable, impossible, not proven or not provable. Lennox attacks evolution not as a scientist but on philosophical and theological grounds. I was referring to such arguments as those given by Lennox, namely that the survival of the fittest cannot explain the apparition of transcendental values such as the truth which do not help you to survive, even the contrary. Morphogenesis does not solve the philosophical problem, only adds new material factors besides DNA mutations that can explain the apparition of new forms of life. The selection criterion, survival of the fittest, remains. Morphogenesis might help solve the scientific paradox but not the philosophical paradox.
Truth absolutely does serve a biological purpose. If its TRUE that a hungry crocodile is hiding just below the surface of the riverside then knowledge of that truth could save my life thus allowing me to continue to live and increase the probability that I will reproduce.
adeshola11 one can argue the degree to which truth serves life but the fact that it does serve life to a significant degree is what allowed us to evolve the capacity for discovering truth in the abstract generalized sense through observation, theory, experimentation, analysis etc.
Anyone has a link to the list of books for the course?
Franciszek Kołpanowicz in the first lecture he showed some link to this courses website, there are some PDFs and at least the names of the books. No links to the books themselves though, as far as I remember
@@riphro6784 Thanks!
In the meantime, I found it myself. There is the whole reading list uploaded in PDFs on Peterson's website!
The reading list covers only fragments from the books and essays, and these are all here, if anybody's interested:
www.jordanbpeterson.com/classes/personality-and-its-transformations/
This is without question a very good class and an excellent professor. However, it goes too much in one direction for my taste. Why don't the students ask questions and challenge the professor? I thought the university was the place to learn independent thinking? Is everything that is said in the lecture halls believed these days?
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