Fax, not all primordials rely on strength but on their hax and abilities. Additionally orgalorg absorbs abilities from anything he consumes but he seems to only have gained his powers from mortals as he cant consume primiordials as they are immortal unless killed in every infinite existence at the same time including using true damage soul damage and cosmic damage to truly kill them, as seen with darren an the physcic war elephant made to deal with weaker primordials as they can destroy beings in all existences at the same time. Orgalorgs existence is a major point on the story as it gives us a timeframe, cosmic crimes including destroying solar systems, plants, mass murder of trillions, and the killing of a wish master would have landed you in the citadel but orgalorg never, this is because he was defeated by glob and sent to earth which broke down his power and body before humans even existed letting us know this is millions or billions of years before the show and the citadel hadnt even existed yet to truly deal with primordials. Earth is the point of change in pretty much every existence being the site of catalyst comet collisions the concepts of change also being a system of the cosmic imagination which seems to have an effect on everyone existing on the planet making them weaker than they could be as seen when the lich and orgalorg immediately escape earth they immediately become more power full as seen with orgalorg for obvious reasons and the lich who manages to easily break out the citadel prison and kill the guards who can casually reach across the multiverse no difficulty. The lich still takes it however, it seems with the timeframe known a war was taken place as the lich is a reincarnation of a catalyst comet meaning he as a primordial had to have died as he spread himself across existence in the multiverse again to become immortal. we can confirm hes a primordial as catalyst comets are supposed to know everything that will and ever will exist but only at the start of the creation of time, meaning finn does not have memories of the primordial world even though he knows everything, the lich in gold stars however easily recalls memories of this confirming any doubts that he isnt a primordial. The lich casually solos as his potential is much higher as seen when he leaves earth the place of change in every existence he gets a power boost extremely on a bigger level than orgalorg,
@@Ninja_2350sorry do you mind if I ask who he is😅 I’m not familiar with much of the debating community or anything like that I do it simply for fun tho 👍
We can't talk about billions of years, because he landed in water where fish live. That is, relative to our time (approximately when Simon lived, in theory) it was AT MAXIMUM 440 million years ago, but, most likely, it was not earlier than the Devonian, when bony fish became widespread
@@паразитикwe actually can, we cannot say at all it is relative to our time/history of earth as due to the presence of magic, and the catalyst comets it probably brought life into the mix much earlier than our earth.
abadeer said orgalorg was the most evil thing hes ever seen. hes a primordial. he knows of lich and he has a simular goal. also probably knows who golb is
W Edit Base forms, could go either way Comp, Tie (Orgalorg should technically be given the power of a catalyst comet, which would make him relative to the lich)
I agree with Speed, but Orgalorg is stronger. The Lich is more or less just a rotting corpse that can use magic, meanwhile Orgalorg is a conqueror warlord that ruled over the solar system. So I’m fairly certain (in terms of physical strength) Orgalorg would surpass the Lich in that.
@@debikk4204 I think that’s more so about his weight crushing in the earth’s atmosphere than it is strength, cause dude was like giant compared to Finn
@@LICHEDITZ15 Bro is the breaker of worlds, i’m fairly certain he’d be more skilled at combat than the Lich who is quite literally a corpse/skeleton/hand or whatever
@@LICHEDITZ15 the lich is more of a spell caster with no hand to hand feats while orgalorg is seen fighting decently on par with glob gob grob grod for a bit
@@Bomshikawombombno he doesnt really take skill, its stated he terrorized all he came in contact with as i doubt there were any mortals that came near his strength anywhere millions to billions of years ago.
@@Bomshikawombomb the lich would take skill as a catalyst comet he knows literally everything that has and will happen since the start of time. additionally he would go hand to hand with billy a combat master several times.
Considering that Orgalorg was almost able to absorb the energy of the catalyst comet, it is logical to assume that he is potentially much stronger than the Lich
Nah, Hunson said in the Enchiridion that the Lich is the second most powerful evil entity in all the Ooo universe and is his only real rival. So Lich is definitely above Orgalorg
@@ThegreatlordofallThey can't. GOLB is the only one capable of destroying inmortal beings. Take for example Coconteppi. He is still alive even tho he is a 'corpse'
@@mrblack9968 Coconteppi was just one of the stronger primordials I'm pretty sure the primordials werent like conconeteppi considering they got wiped out and Coconteppi pseudo survived and the Lich straight up just did survive Also I'm pretty sure the Lich can kill immortal beings as well
Finn has been hopeless and overpowered by lich multiple times including grass sword Finn and metal armed Finn, and grass sword Finn is stronger than orgalorg Orgalorg travels solar systems like it’s nothing he easily gets speed
@@magmavonkarmano billy gimself was too powerful for lich, why would lich lose when the comet that defeats him inst made yet? Heck lich waited fir billy to get old
@@vavalaz you literally just confirmed my point, he didn't fight back because he had a plan of outlasting Billy and using his body to fool someone and steal the book
@@magmavonkarma he def did try to beat billy though, because he was having the best chance, like for example there wasnt any blue catalyst meteor to even stop the lich, he only had to beat billy and boom, he can destroy everyone without worries, but billy defeated him, yes, billy won the battle but not the war, i only corrected since the lich knew he would outlast billy, but the lich tries to be as fast as he can.
@@vavalaz well yeah, I think they actually had a fight during Mushroom War before Billy knocked The Lich down and sealed him in amber, but in the fight we see in comics (which most likely happens later) Lich legit was just taking those punches like a bitch and was talking shi As for Blue Comet, Blue Comet's purpose is not to stop Green Comet, in fact, any comet's purpose is just to bring changes to the multiverse dependent on what concept they embody, like Blue Comet embodies all that is good so Blue Comet (Finn) brought life to the multiverse, and Green Comet embodies all that is evil so it brought the extinction of all life (and this also suits their incarnations, Finn and Lich)
@@magmavonkarma I don’t think so Orgalorg not only never absorbed the full power of the comet but got his ass kick by Finn and Glob. And The Lich worships him
@@Ninja_2350 1. Because Finn is THAT strong, that only upscales Finn and Grass Sword, in fact, Grass Sword scales beyond Cosmic Imagination because Finn fought "an unimaginable foe" using Grass Sword 2. When did The Lich worship GGGG? Maybe you meant GOLB, but afais there is no Orgalorg vs GOLB fight. 3. The Lich didn't really worship GOLB, it was Jerry. Let me explain: when Jake wished to cancel The Lich's wish, he made it so The Lich wished to bring Finn and Jake to Ooo. But what about Jerry? He is The Lich copy made by Prismo so The Lich's wish world won't dissapear randomly, and made it so JERRY wished for that, not The Lich we all know. Jerry is literally the same as Prismo portayed him: If he can't cause mass death, he sits like a machine without a purpose. Also, to prove that OG Lich is the one that became Sweet P: Sweet P was shown to be connected with other versions of The Lich, like Farmworld one
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baseform: Pretty debatable
composite: The Lich claps his cheeks beyond the conception of diff
Tbh, composite would mean that orgalorg would have the power of a catalyst comet, which should make it a tie
@@AlfaresAnas true
@@AlfaresAnas depends on what Interpretation you use
Wait he ate the comet in a different iteration @@AlfaresAnas
@@DallasIsDaMan5 nah, but considering he was so close to absorbing one, I think we should give it to him in a Comp fight
Fax, not all primordials rely on strength but on their hax and abilities. Additionally orgalorg absorbs abilities from anything he consumes but he seems to only have gained his powers from mortals as he cant consume primiordials as they are immortal unless killed in every infinite existence at the same time including using true damage soul damage and cosmic damage to truly kill them, as seen with darren an the physcic war elephant made to deal with weaker primordials as they can destroy beings in all existences at the same time. Orgalorgs existence is a major point on the story as it gives us a timeframe, cosmic crimes including destroying solar systems, plants, mass murder of trillions, and the killing of a wish master would have landed you in the citadel but orgalorg never, this is because he was defeated by glob and sent to earth which broke down his power and body before humans even existed letting us know this is millions or billions of years before the show and the citadel hadnt even existed yet to truly deal with primordials. Earth is the point of change in pretty much every existence being the site of catalyst comet collisions the concepts of change also being a system of the cosmic imagination which seems to have an effect on everyone existing on the planet making them weaker than they could be as seen when the lich and orgalorg immediately escape earth they immediately become more power full as seen with orgalorg for obvious reasons and the lich who manages to easily break out the citadel prison and kill the guards who can casually reach across the multiverse no difficulty. The lich still takes it however, it seems with the timeframe known a war was taken place as the lich is a reincarnation of a catalyst comet meaning he as a primordial had to have died as he spread himself across existence in the multiverse again to become immortal. we can confirm hes a primordial as catalyst comets are supposed to know everything that will and ever will exist but only at the start of the creation of time, meaning finn does not have memories of the primordial world even though he knows everything, the lich in gold stars however easily recalls memories of this confirming any doubts that he isnt a primordial. The lich casually solos as his potential is much higher as seen when he leaves earth the place of change in every existence he gets a power boost extremely on a bigger level than orgalorg,
Dude Cracktoon wants to invite you to his sever to debate The Lich's scaling or something you should join
@@Ninja_2350sorry do you mind if I ask who he is😅 I’m not familiar with much of the debating community or anything like that I do it simply for fun tho 👍
We can't talk about billions of years, because he landed in water where fish live. That is, relative to our time (approximately when Simon lived, in theory) it was AT MAXIMUM 440 million years ago, but, most likely, it was not earlier than the Devonian, when bony fish became widespread
@@паразитикwe actually can, we cannot say at all it is relative to our time/history of earth as due to the presence of magic, and the catalyst comets it probably brought life into the mix much earlier than our earth.
i aint readin allat
BOTH ARE GOATED
Litch is beyond strenght
Doesn't mean he takes strength, He said that because it shows his superiority to Finn
This statement would also apply to orgalorg
"I am the end."
@@Fun_Games_87104 🔥🔥🔥
@@LICHEDITZ15 "And I have come for you, FINN!"
Orgalorg takes experience, he is a primordial, he existed before time,before there was anything just like the lich said...
So is The Lich
both are
@@magmavonkarma Not really that's mostly a falacy because It was never told in the series he was one
@@PeixeDeEstoque his whole speech about the primordials is enough to tell that he could be one
@@magmavonkarma Depends i mean that doesn't really prove anything, he could've have knowledge just that
abadeer said orgalorg was the most evil thing hes ever seen. hes a primordial. he knows of lich and he has a simular goal. also probably knows who golb is
Why is this shows villains go so hard
W Edit
Base forms, could go either way
Comp, Tie (Orgalorg should technically be given the power of a catalyst comet, which would make him relative to the lich)
Fax but
Strength: The lich
Speed:Orgalorg
I agree with Speed, but Orgalorg is stronger. The Lich is more or less just a rotting corpse that can use magic, meanwhile Orgalorg is a conqueror warlord that ruled over the solar system. So I’m fairly certain (in terms of physical strength) Orgalorg would surpass the Lich in that.
Ok
@@Master_Messer 👍
@@BomshikawombombBut Orgalorg gets crushed by gravity, are you that sure about strength?
@@debikk4204 I think that’s more so about his weight crushing in the earth’s atmosphere than it is strength, cause dude was like giant compared to Finn
I’d argue Orgalorg would get combat skills, after all dude is called “The Breaker of Worlds” and ruled over the solar system
How does that have ANYTHING to do with combat and skills?
@@LICHEDITZ15 Bro is the breaker of worlds, i’m fairly certain he’d be more skilled at combat than the Lich who is quite literally a corpse/skeleton/hand or whatever
@@LICHEDITZ15 the lich is more of a spell caster with no hand to hand feats while orgalorg is seen fighting decently on par with glob gob grob grod for a bit
@@Bomshikawombombno he doesnt really take skill, its stated he terrorized all he came in contact with as i doubt there were any mortals that came near his strength anywhere millions to billions of years ago.
@@Bomshikawombomb the lich would take skill as a catalyst comet he knows literally everything that has and will happen since the start of time. additionally he would go hand to hand with billy a combat master several times.
Considering that Orgalorg was almost able to absorb the energy of the catalyst comet, it is logical to assume that he is potentially much stronger than the Lich
Composite Lich...
Nah, Hunson said in the Enchiridion that the Lich is the second most powerful evil entity in all the Ooo universe and is his only real rival. So Lich is definitely above Orgalorg
@@starbrandfan2541golb being the first
Orgalorg and the lich are absolutely equals, they're both primordial
Is it just me he just look exactly like this: (💀)
Strength -> Lich. He's beyond strength.
Orgalorg destroyed literal planets and conquered worlds wdym lich takes strength
They meet again after the monsters were wiped from existence.
Fax GOAT Awesome edit bro 🍷🗿🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks 💯
they both lead at speed, they both moved before nothing, in which there was no time or anything, just monsters
Crazy that from a joke told my hunson to foreshadowing in whats coming next
He does not get strength , but he get beyond of it 😊
Knowing which hierarchy they belong to, we know that the lich is far superior to orgalorg.
This War be Legendary
Man... he is beyond strength
The lich is beyond strength
The dark of Universe
If orgalorg can consume infinite power than in theory he is the most powerfull character in adventure time
which app did you to edit ? Want to know cuz you seems to really good with it
Alight motion, a lot of people use it
@@LICHEDITZ15how did you delete the alight motion mark
@@mr.btates5208 There is a tutorial I watched on Tiktok, I can explain it or you add me on discord and I send it to you
@@LICHEDITZ15 ok what's your name?
@@mr.btates5208 .randomeditor, that should be it. If it doesn't work then give me yours
W edit
THE LICH SLAMS
You need to give strength to the lich bros beyond strength
orgalorg was eating lich's brother or smthg
Orgagorg Stronger because he could stroke the asteroid catalyst, the Lich is the embodiment of this asteroid
Comet*
Lich wins since he is bigger threat to all life and he managed to escape from a cosmic prison while orgalorg cant even escape from a form of penguin.
lich can't even escape from a form of a baby
Cool
Lich like hazzin hotel sin kings
Song name
After dark slowed+reverb😊
logic of the lich is destroing me
What is the song?
Technicality They're both primordials so Basically neither can kill the other
The primordials were wiped out by glob so they definitely can be killed
Orgalorg was cast down to earth but he wasn't killed and the lich never stays down
@@ThegreatlordofallThey can't. GOLB is the only one capable of destroying inmortal beings.
Take for example Coconteppi. He is still alive even tho he is a 'corpse'
@@mrblack9968 Coconteppi was just one of the stronger primordials I'm pretty sure the primordials werent like conconeteppi considering they got wiped out and Coconteppi pseudo survived and the Lich straight up just did survive
Also I'm pretty sure the Lich can kill immortal beings as well
@@Thegreatlordofall To be precise, the lich's skull did not disappear when the lich was sealed and turned into a cube by golb.
Dimensions are on Orgalorg's side
Lich VS hunson abader
Finn has been hopeless and overpowered by lich multiple times including grass sword Finn and metal armed Finn, and grass sword Finn is stronger than orgalorg
Orgalorg travels solar systems like it’s nothing he easily gets speed
Да понятно что лич вин, оргалорг ваще бедняга, выбратся даже не мог из формы пингвина
Оргалорга просто слили непонятно зачем авторы вообще добавили этого злодея если он так и остался пингвином мы даже его силу не увидели
The speed has to be oralorg, right, because it travels in space?
"fall"
The lich
Experience is lich but hes exist before orgalorg and the monsters
fax
Attack potency win lich destroy the funking high multiverse
You are good stealer
Who did he steal from?
This edit have his watermark.
Wow this is amazing🫡🫡🫡
Day 3 hunter vs saitama
Song name? Please
afterdark x my little dark age
@@siooodhsjzb8719 thanks
bro speed and agility orgalorg wins
Órgalog vs el lich
I have to disagree because ORGALORG was beat by glob a god like being and The Litch by Billy
The Lich didn't even fight back because he knew he will outlast Billy
Also GGGG just knocked Orgalorg to The Earth
@@magmavonkarmano billy gimself was too powerful for lich, why would lich lose when the comet that defeats him inst made yet? Heck lich waited fir billy to get old
@@vavalaz you literally just confirmed my point, he didn't fight back because he had a plan of outlasting Billy and using his body to fool someone and steal the book
@@magmavonkarma he def did try to beat billy though, because he was having the best chance, like for example there wasnt any blue catalyst meteor to even stop the lich, he only had to beat billy and boom, he can destroy everyone without worries, but billy defeated him, yes, billy won the battle but not the war, i only corrected since the lich knew he would outlast billy, but the lich tries to be as fast as he can.
@@vavalaz well yeah, I think they actually had a fight during Mushroom War before Billy knocked The Lich down and sealed him in amber, but in the fight we see in comics (which most likely happens later) Lich legit was just taking those punches like a bitch and was talking shi
As for Blue Comet, Blue Comet's purpose is not to stop Green Comet, in fact, any comet's purpose is just to bring changes to the multiverse dependent on what concept they embody, like Blue Comet embodies all that is good so Blue Comet (Finn) brought life to the multiverse, and Green Comet embodies all that is evil so it brought the extinction of all life (and this also suits their incarnations, Finn and Lich)
bro if the lich and orgalorg meet there kills will be beyond nazi germany's kills
yes if these two do meet They will just end up killing everything. By the way its' meet' not 'meat' that makes it sound weird.
thank you for noticing my mistakes
Remix name?
Why are some people setting up these stupid battles like it’s a equal fight at all
Orgalorgas vs licha
Agility and combat = orgalorg.
Golb negs both
unironically wrong if we take composite versions
@@magmavonkarma goon
@@mc.atanti7173 cope about it, Golb is fodder inverse, prime Marceline victim
@@magmavonkarma I don’t think so Orgalorg not only never absorbed the full power of the comet but got his ass kick by Finn and Glob. And The Lich worships him
@@Ninja_2350
1. Because Finn is THAT strong, that only upscales Finn and Grass Sword, in fact, Grass Sword scales beyond Cosmic Imagination because Finn fought "an unimaginable foe" using Grass Sword
2. When did The Lich worship GGGG? Maybe you meant GOLB, but afais there is no Orgalorg vs GOLB fight.
3. The Lich didn't really worship GOLB, it was Jerry. Let me explain: when Jake wished to cancel The Lich's wish, he made it so The Lich wished to bring Finn and Jake to Ooo. But what about Jerry? He is The Lich copy made by Prismo so The Lich's wish world won't dissapear randomly, and made it so JERRY wished for that, not The Lich we all know. Jerry is literally the same as Prismo portayed him: If he can't cause mass death, he sits like a machine without a purpose. Also, to prove that OG Lich is the one that became Sweet P: Sweet P was shown to be connected with other versions of The Lich, like Farmworld one
Kratos (god of war) vs the lich(adventure time)
The Lich absolutely annihilates.
i am ORGALORG!!!!!!!!!!
Difficulty?
Where Lich theme song
Particles or Shadow Lady x Metamorphosis
Song name.
my little dark age x after dark slowed
It's ez for lich
*FALL*
Super Saiyan gumball vs the lich
The lich solos
@@LICHEDITZ15negs
@@LICHEDITZ15
THE LICH VS Cyn
MURDER DRONES Cyn
gunter?
No
Thats ganter
guntur is orgalorg !
This is AT Show? Then Orgalorg negs easily, Base Lich is fodder
Lich take orgalorg no diff
i could def beat the lich (not in a fight)
Wenk
You are alone child
song name?