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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
  • Asmongold Reacts to: Games Media implodes over Dragon Age the Veilguard
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  • @chookee1080
    @chookee1080 3 часа назад +1161

    "This was not made for you"
    Ok

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 3 часа назад +109

      Wait no, comeback! YOU BIGOTS!!

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 3 часа назад +30

      How dare you "Bigots" not buying the product!!!

    • @chookee1080
      @chookee1080 2 часа назад +6

      On that personal note, I'm gonna pre order MH wilds on my other account too

    •  2 часа назад +4

      As John Oliver once said, "Okay, who gives a shit?"

    • @CiroccoDruid
      @CiroccoDruid 2 часа назад +11

      Not buying games that weren't made for you is LITERALLY violence

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf 2 часа назад +393

    DEI - Discrimination, exclusion, indoctrination

  • @Dragedill
    @Dragedill 3 часа назад +1309

    "If you don't like the product give a bad review"
    *audience gives a bad review*
    "HOW DARE YOU?!"

    • @soggybread749
      @soggybread749 2 часа назад +31

      I heard this in Gretas voice

    • @einvaust8445
      @einvaust8445 2 часа назад +8

      @@soggybread749 me too

    • @merovmerov7631
      @merovmerov7631 2 часа назад +2

      @@soggybread749 Greta Thumbs up

    • @thuatdoduc8678
      @thuatdoduc8678 2 часа назад +7

      "How dare you think? You will do what I tell you to do, like what I tell you to like".

    • @TheCaptainEvidence
      @TheCaptainEvidence 2 часа назад +1

      Buy the game and if you don't like it, don't play it and don't leave a review

  • @tjj4lab
    @tjj4lab 2 часа назад +269

    "RUclipsrs aren't bound by journalistic integrity"
    Is he forgetting the first gamergate was started because a journo was sleeping with a dev while giving positive coverage of her objectively terrible game without declaring a conflict of interests?

    • @mrturbo84
      @mrturbo84 2 часа назад +10

      Nathan Grayson

    • @innocentbystander3317
      @innocentbystander3317 2 часа назад +31

      Journalists lied, and people died, but that was totally ethical (or so we're told).

    • @KT-pv3kl
      @KT-pv3kl 2 часа назад +14

      yes... that was a journalist violating his journalistic code of ethics not a youtuber who as asmon said don't have a journalistic code of ethics and thus arent bound by it.

    • @bluemutt9964
      @bluemutt9964 Час назад +4

      ​@@mrturbo84 Is that the guy who was practically forced into suicide or was that another guy

    • @T-verseTrevor
      @T-verseTrevor Час назад +3

      ​@bluemutt9964 I think that was the same dude. Don't quote me on it, though, it's been years, and I can't remember the names of these people.

  • @Arthrenil
    @Arthrenil 3 часа назад +1944

    Imagine hating on potential customers instead of catering to them. Wild times we live in

    • @SaltyDerps
      @SaltyDerps 3 часа назад +148

      Never before have we seen so many developers just telling their costumer "we dont want your money, we hate you!" The modern videogame industry since 2018 has been a mess, new devs and executive are egocentric dumbasses, putting identity and ideology first before Fun and Experience in their Products

    • @SilversTaurus
      @SilversTaurus 3 часа назад +17

      We live in a simulation. 😂

    • @griffin1366
      @griffin1366 3 часа назад +35

      I've been waiting for Ubisoft to go under for 8 years now.
      EA is next on the chopping block (hopefully).

    • @irishbob26
      @irishbob26 3 часа назад +7

      The customers always wrong 😂

    • @sola4393
      @sola4393 3 часа назад +14

      Dare them to let real gamers to vote on a game instead of bunch of people who doesn't even play games.

  • @idleeidolon
    @idleeidolon 2 часа назад +164

    Baldur's Gate 3 is that one friend that keeps making indian food and shares it with you, and you're surprised to find out he's vegan.
    Dragon Age Veilguard is that one vegan friend that won't shut up about being vegan, and then lectures and shames you for liking bacon.

    • @sunnysun2030
      @sunnysun2030 2 часа назад +10

      Lol, pretty about that about the difference indeed, well put :)

    • @nekonights8630
      @nekonights8630 Час назад +6

      Sometimes I wonder why I am even friends with them to start with and just walk away.
      I know this sounds bad and looks like I am not a good friend, but I don't want to be judged 24/7.
      Sorry, but farewell.

    • @moltenamber85
      @moltenamber85 43 минуты назад +2

      Would that make South Park: The Fractured But Whole the vegan that makes fun of themselves?

    • @B.V.Luminous
      @B.V.Luminous 36 минут назад

      Dang what an accurate way to put it...

    • @Sgttv
      @Sgttv 32 минуты назад +1

      Amen

  • @filidhdeklend893
    @filidhdeklend893 3 часа назад +741

    Wokies definitely give off strong "It's your fault I hit you, you just make me so mad!" vibes.

    • @eleemaeli1830
      @eleemaeli1830 2 часа назад +39

      Ah hello corporate Amber heard

    • @gknight686
      @gknight686 2 часа назад +36

      "The J cries out as he strikes you" - Polish proverb

    • @ZomboidMania
      @ZomboidMania 2 часа назад +26

      My dad says that about why he used to hit my mom, what an absolute scumbag

    • @umbarus3216
      @umbarus3216 2 часа назад +20

      _yOu dIDn'T GeT pUncHeD, yOu GoT hIt 👧🏼_

    • @mitchellwilley7208
      @mitchellwilley7208 2 часа назад +16

      ive litterally seen videos of libers admitting to police they assaulted the person because the person offended them rofl.

  • @ThisIsMrDante
    @ThisIsMrDante 2 часа назад +33

    I recently watched a Zoomer playing MGS 1 from 1998. This game has a Kurdish woman, and this feature (region of origin) was one of many in the history of this character. It was so diverse that people had to use Google since not many knew who a "Kurdish person" was. It's a great game, with a great characters and an amazing story.
    But now in a lot of games there is no diversity even if game is advertised as diverse. There is always minority oprresed by the system, lesbian with short hair that is boring af, women that look like they have membership card to KFC rather than to nearby gym. Like cmon bruh - I'm sure there are hot lesbians with long hair, hot women, people representing miniorities that can handle themselves in any situation. Just stop making characters from one form and calling it diverse - they look and act the same in every "diverse" game.

    • @BiriBiri925
      @BiriBiri925 25 минут назад +2

      It's more the fault of poor education. I mean, if people don't know who the Kurds are.

    • @Tchoukis
      @Tchoukis 14 минут назад +2

      And they are all from California, even if it's a fantasy world on the other side of the universe

  • @evilalex87
    @evilalex87 3 часа назад +1397

    EA canceld Dead Space 2 remake and Alice Madness 3 but green lit this gay fantasy shit

    • @PolarBearZoo1
      @PolarBearZoo1 2 часа назад +68

      Ain't no way there was an Alice 3. I don't believe it. Please tell me you are lying.

    • @narakhin3936
      @narakhin3936 2 часа назад +57

      They simply don't want our money anymore

    • @eljidreigon8316
      @eljidreigon8316 2 часа назад +133

      @@PolarBearZoo1 Yep, Alice Asylum, the creator even proposed buying the rights/license from EA to make it and they still said no, if i remember correctly

    • @cat55198
      @cat55198 2 часа назад +58

      @@PolarBearZoo1 there was, McGee handed sketches to EA in order to get an approval and funding, buuuut
      “On the question of funding, they have ultimately decided to pass on the project based on an internal analysis of the IP, market conditions, and details of the production proposal. On the question of licensing, they replied that Alice is an important part of EA’s overall game catalog, and selling or licensing it isn’t something they’re prepared to do right now.”
      So yeah, Alice is a bit dead rn since the rights are in EA's hands, and they don't like giving up on them

    • @krisrakow6663
      @krisrakow6663 2 часа назад +39

      @@PolarBearZoo1there was. The creator did all he could together with an eager community to make it easy for EA to give it the GO. They did not, and thus American Mcgee vowed to leave game making forever.

  • @pepperoni6816
    @pepperoni6816 2 часа назад +35

    0:16 If you ever win streamer of the year at the game awards, please play this part for your intro.

  • @kurosan0079
    @kurosan0079 3 часа назад +775

    I mean, I don't wanna take all the credit. It's a team effort.

    • @Eleiem
      @Eleiem 3 часа назад +89

      I’m doing my part

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde 3 часа назад +75

      I'm doing my part

    • @MrHeavy466
      @MrHeavy466 3 часа назад +64

      *Child steps out
      I'm doing my part!

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 3 часа назад +41

      I'm doing my part!

    • @TheMuratJohn
      @TheMuratJohn 2 часа назад +32

      I’m doing my part

  • @Daki25
    @Daki25 2 часа назад +17

    "All roads lead to ASMON" is a line that will forever live rent-free inside my head.

  • @ShadowRulah
    @ShadowRulah 3 часа назад +364

    It's amazing that Devs, Publishers, and Writers haven't made a mistake in like 10 years, everything has been totally perfect and the only problem is the audience being bad.

    • @jimmy_h7911
      @jimmy_h7911 3 часа назад +28

      Yeah man, can't believe i haven't been buying every 30-70 dollar game that came out in the last decade. The amount of shame I feel for daring to carefully pick what games I spend my money on

    • @MrLilredmachine
      @MrLilredmachine 3 часа назад +13

      Stunning. Brave. They've been on a flawless victory streak for a decade. I don't understand how they all lost so much money and relevance.

    • @r01d2
      @r01d2 3 часа назад +1

      for me the hax is that I never hear "journalist" get punished for creating false narration or hate mongering, my trust on people with absolute Power

    • @Trohl-
      @Trohl- 3 часа назад +4

      Game journos rate this comment a 10/10. Back to form!

    • @insensitive919
      @insensitive919 Час назад +2

      Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012, and they called people "entitled" for criticizing it.

  • @irishsage2459
    @irishsage2459 57 минут назад +6

    27:06
    The fact this "journalist" thought Dragon Age would be played by over 10 million players just goes to show they are absolutely out of touch with games. And they think they are the ones who know all..... hilarious

  • @ulquiorra9729
    @ulquiorra9729 3 часа назад +502

    The main problem with Journalism is that it's clearly at odds with what i can clearly see for myself:
    I get told that Single Player games are dead every other year, but they consistently show up at Game of the Years awards as GOTY contender
    I get told that games today are far more inclusive and tackle much harder themes than the past, but they still cannot even touch the level of Final Fantasy 10's Story or Characters in 2001
    I get told that games are far bigger than they ever been, but they cannot even approach the freedom that Planescape: Torment gave me back in 1999

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow 3 часа назад +46

      "I get told that Single Player games are dead every other year, "
      "gaming on PC is dead" but evolved into even more silly form - you'll love to see it

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +40

      Yep, whenever someone tries to falsify reality in order to support their views, it calls everything they say and do into question. This applies to a lot of things actually.

    • @Catherine.Dorian.
      @Catherine.Dorian. 3 часа назад

      @@christianalanwilson434lol yet they just don’t get that doesnt work. They keep telling us to ignore our eyes and ears and just believe what we are told

    • @James-u1y
      @James-u1y 3 часа назад +2

      The one nuance here is that we do have some journalists making articles countering some of the things you mentioned especially the one about single-player games being dead, I read an article breaking it down and the guy made some interesting cases with the data about how well single-player games are doing and how he thought it will be in the future as well. Its just that the annoying articles get blown up to the top of the search results always.

    • @AodhMori
      @AodhMori 3 часа назад +2

      Final Fantasy doesn’t push it so much it’s pretentious

  • @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
    @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 Час назад +8

    They complain about the reviewers leaving negative comments on YT. Yet, many of these gamers had to actually buy the game, play it, and leave a legitimate review about the product. They weren't given a free code unless they met certain criteria. These journalists were leaving great comments for the game and it hadn't even been out yet. If you're selling authentic jewelry, but it turns out to be fake, then complain about the criticism; it isn't the consumer's fault nor is it the people who revealed that the jewelry was fake. Instead, you can look at how much a AAA game has depreciated in value within less than a week because the company sold slop. Good luck in selling that hard copy and getting your money back.

  • @le_bandito
    @le_bandito 3 часа назад +248

    There appears to be a problem with ethics in gaming journalism

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +21

      Always has been.

    • @James-u1y
      @James-u1y 3 часа назад +11

      There's a problem with ethics in our media and government as well its just a thing, I mean even getting Repubs in office (only some not all of them) instead of getting to work are skipping some of the basic requirements of our country regarding ethics and background run-downs. Its disappointing.

    • @sirazazeloflowkey6424
      @sirazazeloflowkey6424 3 часа назад +2

      Nah, no problem, they fixed it by getting completely rid of it. 😂

    • @SweetKscam
      @SweetKscam 3 часа назад

      ​@@christianalanwilson434 I member EA paid journalists to kill entire CNC franchise .

    • @Trohl-
      @Trohl- 3 часа назад +1

      "What's that?"

  • @Sturrmm
    @Sturrmm Час назад +12

    These "journalists" fail so hard on realizing that games that aren't about romantic relationships don't need gender/pronouns and LGBT relationships. We want myths/legends and fantasy. Not half thought out dialogue that virtue signals for no meaningful reason.

    • @oompalumpus699
      @oompalumpus699 15 минут назад

      _The funny thing is, by taking a quick peek at the games the furry community plays, you will notice that the most popular LGHDTV+ stuff crosses over with stuff the furries like._
      _The mainly popular ones are visual novels or RPGs and the main genre is romance or drama._
      _That's what they like. But these journalists fail to do even basic market research to identify what specific topics certain demographics relate to._

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 3 часа назад +637

    Whatever happened to "if you don't like it, don't buy it"?

    • @kingLukesta
      @kingLukesta 3 часа назад +41

      Need to make shirts with this printed

    • @sebastianbronowicki7073
      @sebastianbronowicki7073 3 часа назад +85

      Devs realised they actually need money to pay the bills.

    • @James-u1y
      @James-u1y 3 часа назад +5

      If people that are mad about this kind of stuff actually did this it would have less concurrent players on launch, but people online talk shit about these games and then also go buy them just because and preach about how bad it is never even refunding the games they disliked. Its a gigantic cycle that occasionally we get good results in.

    • @noonenowhere877
      @noonenowhere877 3 часа назад +17

      People actually started listening and they suddenly remembered they weren’t a private corporation making something niche and panicked.

    • @KongQuestCo
      @KongQuestCo 3 часа назад +19

      They ran out of other people’s money

  • @lthecomprmiser883
    @lthecomprmiser883 2 часа назад +5

    "These people are so worried about the moral grandstanding." Hit the nail on the head

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 3 часа назад +503

    I and a lot of people haven’t even touched this game, how can anyone think it’s our fault when we don’t even care about this game’s existence?

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 3 часа назад +22

      😂 how dare you

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow 3 часа назад +23

      gib money crowd when you don't give them your money "how dare you?!"

    • @EvasiveCrow
      @EvasiveCrow 3 часа назад +5

      This is the real fraud! As a gamer Achieving something in a game means allot to you only because you can´t achieve anything in the real life. Then it get reset, and you are nobody, and have to start all over. This is how gaming Industry work. Im 45 year old and used to be hard core gamer. I still play games. I achieved everything I wanted in games at the cost of living the worst life ever. The truth is sad and nobody want to understand it not hear it because the truth hurt. You dont get your dosage of dopamine if someone tells you the truth in your face. You loose allot of it and get adrenaline instead. This is how your bodys chemistry work, and people designing games know it.

    • @Whateverdude970
      @Whateverdude970 3 часа назад +11

      Its your fault that the Ceo cant buy his 5th yacht for you not buying his crap product😂. The guy didnt go to businessschool

    • @sik3xploit
      @sik3xploit 3 часа назад +11

      Don't ask questions. Consoom product and get excited for next product.

  • @canxel11
    @canxel11 2 часа назад +20

    "It's banned because it's not haram" got me LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @vrana44
    @vrana44 3 часа назад +211

    same in germany with "game two" well known gamer journalists here i swear they made a reel where they told us literarlly that the fanbase and viewership are trolls and not experts so therefore we need to shut up. Never gonna watch it again in my life.

    • @flashmasterp.2685
      @flashmasterp.2685 3 часа назад +23

      Die haben kurz drauf massiv an abos und Zuschauer verloren.
      Ist aber eigentlich egal, die sind eh nicht mehr relevant. Hätten halt nicht schlechte Moderatoren holen sollen und dann noch Leute die definitiv gar keinen Plan von gaming haben.... Ist halt einfach schlecht

    • @Som09mer
      @Som09mer 3 часа назад +4

      Wissen sie, wann das war? Habe sie seit dem ende von GameOne nkaum mehr geschaut

    • @Darko807
      @Darko807 3 часа назад +6

      Never heard of game two as a german but I don't engage with any journalism fortunately. I'll just buy what I'll play

    • @RaveF0Xx
      @RaveF0Xx 3 часа назад +2

      @@flashmasterp.2685weist du zufällig genau welches Video das war?
      Hab anfangs noch sehr gerne Game Two geschaut, es gab einige tolle Beiträge aber mit den ganzen neuen Nasen kann ich nicht wirklich viel anfang…

    • @man-xy
      @man-xy 3 часа назад +9

      germany has been a joke for at least 30 years

  • @StoneAnarchy66
    @StoneAnarchy66 2 часа назад +7

    At least we have Asmon to crusade for us small gamers who have no voice.....thank you Zack for calling out all the bullshit in games nowadays that are ruining our experience. .....you are appreciated !!!

  • @scalorize7096
    @scalorize7096 3 часа назад +306

    "People don't care about diversity in games if the quality is high enough" they're so close to seeing it's actually about quality. They're just not quite getting it

    • @ice_fox
      @ice_fox 3 часа назад +52

      They need to realize there is a stark contrast between fair inclusion and promotive glorification.

    • @sola4393
      @sola4393 3 часа назад +11

      All their complains are about ideology and politic, what happen to the game? People look for a game not politic.

    • @teyr5
      @teyr5 2 часа назад +6

      It's like how Overwatch is or at least used to be. It used to be quite diverse in a normal way, it wasn't advertised as a diverse game, it just was and people didn't care because they enjoyed the game.

    • @pdpgb
      @pdpgb 2 часа назад +13

      If it's high enough sure but the woke shit is still a negative for 90+% of players. It's not a neutral and definitely not a positive. It's like getting a professional chef to cook you a meal and then saying that if the quality is good enough you won't care about the dog shit they added to the meal. Maybe true but what sort of worthless statement is that.

    • @Timotheuster
      @Timotheuster 2 часа назад +2

      People don't care about diversity in games.

  • @kaelinvictus6039
    @kaelinvictus6039 3 часа назад +14

    "The more you enable these people the more power they gain until they become a default". That actually sounds like what the mind virus has been doing all along.

  • @OneWayTwoBrazil
    @OneWayTwoBrazil 3 часа назад +78

    - Lazy devs incorporate ideological 1 trait characters whilst ignoring feedback
    - Sane people complain about the terrible implementation
    - Journos call opps chuds and collect their shill bucks

    • @irishijo1
      @irishijo1 2 часа назад

      Itll only be so long before those shill bucks dont exist anymore, and they wont either.

  • @iRunKids
    @iRunKids 2 часа назад +7

    These people know that their beliefs cannot withstand scrutiny, most of them don’t even believe what they’re saying, but they think what they believe to be virtuous ends justify the deceitful and manipulative means.

  • @redpanda416
    @redpanda416 3 часа назад +179

    I'm very glad that I'm the problem and I'm gonna continue to be the problem. DEAL WITH IT!

    • @JohnE9999
      @JohnE9999 3 часа назад +19

      Don't be part of the problem. Be the WHOLE problem.

    • @greenshinigami5566
      @greenshinigami5566 2 часа назад +8

      @@JohnE9999 I'm doing my part by pirating everything
      You're welcome

    • @TuTukan-ho2lv
      @TuTukan-ho2lv Час назад

      @@greenshinigami5566 DA: Gayguard isn't even worth the torrent trackers and it's a waste of unlimited 1000gb/s transfer.

    • @insensitive919
      @insensitive919 Час назад +1

      Let's goooooo

    • @RookCity94
      @RookCity94 Час назад

      Based

  • @Ephem13
    @Ephem13 2 часа назад +11

    It's not hard. Players don't care about diversity. Not that they are against it, they just don't care. So when you comprise gameplay and storytelling for the sake of it, it's going to flop. People are going to note that the DEI is forced or shoehorned in and point it out. It's not the inclusion, it's the method.

    • @NAMAST3-od2ij
      @NAMAST3-od2ij Час назад

      What is DEI?

    • @raygonzales8720
      @raygonzales8720 Час назад +1

      Plenty of crap like this in BG3 too, however it isn't forced down your throat like it was in failguard.

    • @RC-go2kl
      @RC-go2kl 58 минут назад

      we don't care as long as it does not exclude the norms. Body type 1 and 2 instead of male or female is dehumanizing. Only able to choose androgenous features instead of full on masculine or feminine? Being indoctrinated ingame about assuming genders? Just take us back to the pre-teen 2000s or earlier. This shit sucks.

  • @jakexero
    @jakexero 3 часа назад +45

    Bro i used to watch teens review videogames on their mom's camcorder back in the youtube broadcast yourself days. We would be completely fine without big games media

    • @therealfakecaptain7978
      @therealfakecaptain7978 Час назад +3

      When you are useless, you do everything to appear as vital. It is nothing more than a defense mechanism.

  • @velkarizma1404
    @velkarizma1404 2 часа назад +6

    I don't think a games journalist can call themselves more qualified if the majority of "professional reviewers" didn't get that far in Black Myth Wu Kong. This is evident by the majority of these journalists claiming a lack of female characters in the game. I think that if someone wants to represent an audience of consumers, they have to at least consume the majority of the product.

  • @IcyBlaze616
    @IcyBlaze616 3 часа назад +78

    Why do we still let Nathan Grayson on the internet unsupervised again?
    Bro was Ground Zero for Gamergate.

    • @mrturbo84
      @mrturbo84 2 часа назад +8

      He started it with a Bang...

  • @ancientroullete
    @ancientroullete 2 часа назад +4

    To be honest, I know if I bought Veilguard, I would hate the character creator and refund it. I like Dragon’s Dogma 2 character creator because it’s extremely detailed and you can make a character that’s drop dead gorgeous or extremely repulsive.

  • @randomhttyddev9245
    @randomhttyddev9245 3 часа назад +127

    Imagine being so entitled that you cannot fathom that you are not discriminated against and that you are the discriminator

    • @janitorizamped
      @janitorizamped 3 часа назад +1

      This can also be said about the people who hate tge game too.

    • @aeonstar293
      @aeonstar293 2 часа назад

      No. Try again. Or don't. We don't care.

    • @SauceAppleEater_2885
      @SauceAppleEater_2885 2 часа назад

      Cry me a river boy. Or better yet, go do you homework.

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 46 минут назад

      Narcissists.

  • @furyanwolf
    @furyanwolf 2 часа назад +17

    I do care about inclusive elements when they're "Body Type 1" and "Body Type 2", that's a HUUUGE factor to my buying a game or not because it reinforces the idea that biology and therefore reality is somehow ... NOT real.

    • @uzma381
      @uzma381 26 минут назад +1

      I don't think that is even being inclusive. It's just half-assed way to signal "look, we care" when they really don't. It has just become a box in the checklist to cross off. I don't believe anyone is actually happy about the current state.

  • @l3igl3oi73
    @l3igl3oi73 3 часа назад +163

    It is my fault. I take responsibility.

    • @Sai86377
      @Sai86377 3 часа назад +16

      We did it

    • @snoobcat
      @snoobcat 3 часа назад +33

      It's OUR fault, Comrade

    • @Flesh_Wizard
      @Flesh_Wizard 3 часа назад +6

      *victory

    • @cypher5910
      @cypher5910 3 часа назад +3

      dang, can I borrow just a handful of blame as well?

    • @klaede9666
      @klaede9666 3 часа назад

      You are forgiven😊

  • @mazeofmind3181
    @mazeofmind3181 2 часа назад +4

    So simplifying: you can't tell someone that there is a man and a woman, cause it doesn't work this way, but you can tell people that there is man, woman and 100 things in between and expect them to follow that cause you say so.. On top of that you can call it freedom of speech and tolerance. Extremely tolerant.

  • @griffin1366
    @griffin1366 3 часа назад +59

    Won't somebody please think of the multi-billion dollar companies!!!!?

    • @JacobHimmelhaver-m8g
      @JacobHimmelhaver-m8g Час назад

      Lol. Definitely think about the companies that pay me money.

    • @Goiaba308
      @Goiaba308 Час назад

      @@JacobHimmelhaver-m8g Imagine thinking the companies isnt easily replacable too. Moment one loses ground another thing takes that same ground

    • @IncognitoActivado
      @IncognitoActivado 28 минут назад

      SpaceX? Tesla?

  • @spitwicked6188
    @spitwicked6188 2 часа назад +4

    They have all the control on what games they make but they have no control on what games we buy. The power is still in the player.

    • @matthewmosier8439
      @matthewmosier8439 11 минут назад +1

      And people doubt the effectiveness of tariffs.
      But it's the same kind of seller/ buyer relationship. And you are correct, the buyer has the power

  • @mrh4900
    @mrh4900 3 часа назад +435

    It’s okay to be Anglo Saxon

    • @mrh4900
      @mrh4900 3 часа назад +6

      Also first

    • @jointhefun4
      @jointhefun4 3 часа назад

      ​@@mrh4900facts

    • @brnm973
      @brnm973 3 часа назад +15

      Who cares dude, go outside

    • @MW92.
      @MW92. 3 часа назад +63

      Proud white Irish here 🤝

    • @Jesujej
      @Jesujej 3 часа назад +62

      @@brnm973 who asked?

  • @marcusliviussalinator5529
    @marcusliviussalinator5529 Час назад +4

    The prologues of Dragon Age: Origins are better than the entire Veilguard. But let's pretend the issue is the gamers.

  • @crazyxgamer
    @crazyxgamer 3 часа назад +28

    "If you don't like it, don't buy it" only works when the game is well received by the majority of your customer base and there's the small minority group of people who complain about it
    doesn't work when the company is neglecting what should be their core audience base while simultaneously dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into games that is heavily catering towards a small fraction of their potential customers
    I swear these developers sometimes forget that they're making an entertainment product that they need to sell and not an art project that they're creating for fun

    • @SauceAppleEater_2885
      @SauceAppleEater_2885 2 часа назад +4

      As asmon says, it is easy to be generous with someone else's money, so of course they don't care about whether the game sells or not.

  • @OneTwoMark
    @OneTwoMark 2 часа назад +6

    Game journalism is taking becoming irrelevant worse than legacy news media.

  • @FrenzyLive1
    @FrenzyLive1 3 часа назад +253

    B.. but i thought.. Dragon Age Veilguards was doing well on the charts??
    I guess getting 50K players (less than some roblox games) isn't good?

    • @Zekium
      @Zekium 3 часа назад +22

      One million sells according to an inside source.
      The game needs something like 5 to 7 millions just to cover the costs.

    • @PineappleBaconPizza
      @PineappleBaconPizza 3 часа назад +42

      ​@@Zekium Endymion source said the one million sold is actually one million shipped, with only more than half a million sold. Tons of stores can't sell the game and sitting collecting dust.

    • @PandaGin
      @PandaGin 3 часа назад +8

      50k ended a li'l after a week of release, now they're barely even getting 30k.

    • @thetruesimplegrid
      @thetruesimplegrid 3 часа назад +1

      @@Zekium could be total units shipped out to retailers and not necessarily gamers who who have bought the game. So without any breakdown I don’t think I believe that number yet.

    • @NinjapowerMS
      @NinjapowerMS 3 часа назад +3

      I had a few friends that was unironically happy that the Failguard had that amount of players on launch and was beating the so called "chuds" who was usimg every excuse in the book to say it failed. I let it play out for a few days haha

  • @pko1683
    @pko1683 2 часа назад +3

    these people do not live in reality, even worse is he is completely oblivious to the fact the majority of people think this shit is nuts

  • @Stan3I3
    @Stan3I3 3 часа назад +109

    Game bad = Baldy fault
    Twitch ban = Baldy fault
    Adpocalypse= Baldy fault

    • @greenshinigami5566
      @greenshinigami5566 2 часа назад +5

      Baldy owned his mistake but will make sure to ruin twitch if others don't own theirs

    • @SilvisGF
      @SilvisGF 2 часа назад +5

      Baldy fault = twitch problem
      Hey , how about RUclips, I only watch baldy on RUclips 😂😂

    • @newcartaste8986
      @newcartaste8986 2 часа назад +3

      this comment is baldies fault

    • @MrCyb999
      @MrCyb999 2 часа назад +3

      "And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed him."

    • @ManCheat2
      @ManCheat2 2 часа назад +4

      @@greenshinigami5566 Baldys only mistake was apologizing

  • @Caydiem
    @Caydiem 2 часа назад +7

    37:27
    BG3 has things like afro-American elves and almost every quest interacting NPC turns out to be gay, which does turn off people who enjoy traditional fantasy settings.
    It's obvious why they were shoved into the game so people call it out as such.

    • @jeast9648
      @jeast9648 Час назад

      That was the only problem I had with bg3. I want to be friends with gale and astarion, but when they hit on my character it pulls me out of the immersion. I think they should have made it where you have to initiate those kinds of interactions.

    • @jozefcyran2589
      @jozefcyran2589 Час назад

      Idk specifically about BLACK or WHITE elves but since humans, dogs, cats and horses have races I would assume elves also could. You could do shades of brown like humans or blue/elve/red elves. Or make them unicolor but its not technically woke as nature produces different races in species

    • @raygonzales8720
      @raygonzales8720 Час назад

      When i first saw her i mistaked her for Drow, then when i ran into actual Drow i was like hey, they are blue, why was that lady in the fire black? then it clicked and i was like uuuugghhh, then continued playing and forgot about her.

    • @micturner8193
      @micturner8193 58 минут назад +1

      @@jozefcyran2589
      They do: high elves, moon elves, wood elves, eladrin, drow... THESE were the elven races in d&d (I might be forgetting some). African american elves or 'asian' elves are cringe.

    • @GampyBamblor
      @GampyBamblor 26 минут назад

      Also the swordcoast was woke diversity when really it is not....bg3 was jist a divinity clone with bg elements but nothing like the original 2 games

  • @Danbotology
    @Danbotology 3 часа назад +52

    As long as you don't do a Jim Sterling and completely lose your sanity, then go get 'em Asmon.

    • @JN.0_o
      @JN.0_o 3 часа назад +10

      Man, their spiral was an absolute rollercoaster 😅

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +11

      You either die the hero, or live long enough to become the villain.

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 3 часа назад +12

      It is unreal how far they fell. I seriously thought Jim was making a joke but nope. What's more hilarious is that I unsubscribed from him YEARS AGO, before he transitioned, I found his content got more annoying as time went on, he kept using the same visuals and music to the point it got repetitive and annoying. His "solutions" were also a joke because he kept repeating the same thing again and again non-stop

    • @frankieb9444
      @frankieb9444 2 часа назад +9

      @@Arcademan09 Same, many years ago he sited a Kotaku article and that was the moment I unsubbed.

    • @RC-go2kl
      @RC-go2kl Час назад

      Jim was already a nut case before his transitioning. He exhibited it through his body language for a long time

  • @mehukattti
    @mehukattti 2 часа назад +6

    I blame the government. State department specifically

    • @yunusgokcen174
      @yunusgokcen174 2 часа назад +2

      Trump will change it.

    • @jeast9648
      @jeast9648 Час назад

      ​@yunusgokcen174 Let's hope so. Let's hope he doesn't get stone walled again. There are plenty of rinos in office that will side with the dems just to stick it to trump. The maga movement isn't republican. Trump just had to run that way to win. The libertarians are running the show now.

  • @askel6498
    @askel6498 3 часа назад +109

    Journalists pull out gun:"We no longer asking you to love woke games!"
    Gamers:"Good. Cause we ain't doing it!"

    • @Zhtrik
      @Zhtrik 3 часа назад +8

      Thankfully journalists can’t aim

    • @tobbe1980
      @tobbe1980 3 часа назад +3

      Exactly. And when I think about it and the real power we have not buying a game. The gaming industry have alot to think through...

    • @Justadonkey
      @Justadonkey 3 часа назад +1

      ​@@Zhtrikor jump

    • @WolfekingAlex
      @WolfekingAlex 2 часа назад +1

      ​@@Zhtrikjust throw in a jump dash and they'll never make it out of the tutorial level.

  • @Ex_impius
    @Ex_impius Час назад +3

    My god this article is full of PROJECTION

  • @Lancelot-stealyourqueen
    @Lancelot-stealyourqueen 3 часа назад +94

    - It's your fault as a youtuber/streamer to tell the truth
    - It's your fault as a gamer to agree with the truth
    1984 is supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook

    • @hungrymusicwolf
      @hungrymusicwolf 2 часа назад +4

      A warning is a step by step guide to a predator.

  • @motton9716
    @motton9716 2 часа назад +3

    If anyone that worked on veilguard is credited in mass effect, I’m not getting it. Veilguard is the most shallow game I’ve ever played 46 hours in and I can’t bring myself to play anymore.

  • @KumarMitra-u8k
    @KumarMitra-u8k 3 часа назад +57

    Stop. Noticing.
    - Thanks from the ADL

    • @DeadMenTNT
      @DeadMenTNT 2 часа назад +3

      Hard to notice some one thinks pepe is hateful conduct..

    • @davidknekkerbrood9547
      @davidknekkerbrood9547 2 часа назад

      well well well

    • @rollerr
      @rollerr 2 часа назад +3

      Every single time

    • @Nyet-Zdyes
      @Nyet-Zdyes Час назад

      I would say that this is far more likely the types at SBI and their ilk... the reign bow maphia and especially the femma-not-sees.
      In fact, the *actual* small hats would be quite opposed to a lot of this crap, too.
      This is coming from exactly the kind that you'd expect to see with strangely colored hair... and others with very... ah... flexible wrists... and attending "pallie" demonstrations... and hosting The View... or programs on the MSNPC channel.

    • @diabolusabsconditus
      @diabolusabsconditus 57 минут назад

      @@Nyet-Zdyes youre clueless mate. not-sees? hilariously out of touch

  • @lastpringle8904
    @lastpringle8904 2 часа назад +4

    You wanna know why anime games typically have a lot of fanservice scenes where the girl gets her clothes melted off?
    Because the Devs know that the people buying it wanna see that.
    Look at any anime game during PS3 and 360 era, heavy fanservice, there's usually a bikini outfit for each girl. Because again, the Devs know what the players will pay for and so they give It to them.
    Majority of people here probably know Senran Kagura. Tits the game. It's the best example of that.
    And, the games are kinda fun.
    But now what's basically happening is you're ordering a steak, the waiter brings you a salad and says it's your fault because you should have ordered the salad and then you wouldn't be disappointed
    I get game development is hard and coming up with new ideas is even harder, but making a game no one asked for or cares about and expecting people to pay money for it is dumb

  • @mhep9367
    @mhep9367 3 часа назад +34

    Eventually, the coffers will dry up, and relaity will hit them when it's too late.

  • @blazingmonolith4323
    @blazingmonolith4323 Час назад +1

    Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 sold more copies than DA Veilguard. And that is a much much smaller community of players.

  • @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242
    @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242 3 часа назад +32

    I just love it how much influence I have over things I never knew existed.

  • @flolobi
    @flolobi Час назад +2

    “Truth is what it is and you must bend to its power or live in a lie” Musashi Myamoto

  • @Official_RetroMania
    @Official_RetroMania 3 часа назад +27

    Blame the gamers for not supporting something that doesn't speak to them, blaming companies and journalist? Nah they are the good guys LUL.

  • @2dumd2live
    @2dumd2live Час назад +1

    Literal "Am I out of touch? ....No, it is the people who a wrong!" moment for game journalists

  • @MojiMikato
    @MojiMikato 3 часа назад +32

    Its okay to be man and masculine.

  • @snoobcat
    @snoobcat 2 часа назад +4

    48:01 WHAMEN SHOW YOURSELF

  • @trajanz9557
    @trajanz9557 3 часа назад +32

    Harambe -> Gamer gate -> Trump -> attack gamers to change political landscape -> fail. That's pretty much the logic they are operating on

    • @dogdie147
      @dogdie147 2 часа назад +2

      Peanuts -> Gamer gate 2 -> Trump 2025 (electric bungaloo) -> attack gamers to change political landscape (DLC: identity politics expansion) -> fail again. These people never learn

    • @starrk7158
      @starrk7158 Час назад

      We vote with our wallets.

  • @ShrimpOfDeath
    @ShrimpOfDeath 2 часа назад +1

    21:13 Yeah, it's reactionary all right. Like an immune system reacts to infection.

  • @The_Phoenix_Saga
    @The_Phoenix_Saga 3 часа назад +31

    "Why treat adults like children and control what content is available" to paraphrase your question about 29 mins in.
    And i answer - its all control. They dont want people's opinions they want obediant compulsion. They want you eager to snap up what they make and agree to their message and not be inclined to ask questions or challenge the agenda.
    Theres much more sinister implications in all this... hence they look to cancel and shut down any form of commentary that controverts their agenda.

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 2 часа назад +1

      Its a COMMAND designed as a choice-

    • @sungahymn
      @sungahymn 2 часа назад +5

      "Don't ask questions, just consume product."

    • @araamahasla555
      @araamahasla555 Час назад +1

      To loosely quote a youtuber Pilgrim'sPass on his video about types of dystopias: "The reason you need twitter creature with blue hair and 7 degrees in bulshitology to tell you what a woman is, is the desire to strip control from the individual even on something as basic as their everyday interactions."

    • @micturner8193
      @micturner8193 Час назад

      @@sungahymn Now start doing 'voting' :)

  • @mrturbo84
    @mrturbo84 2 часа назад +1

    Nathan Grayson is the dude who started Gamer Gate 1.

  • @taumctauface1886
    @taumctauface1886 3 часа назад +25

    Journalists of all types seem to have forgotten they are supposed to be reporting what people are thinking not how people should think.

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +7

      well the modern mantra of journalism and communication is literally to "influence and change behaviors" not to simply report or review.

  • @xWhackoJacko
    @xWhackoJacko 2 часа назад +2

    They STILL don't see the difference between Failguard and BG3. That's part of the problem right there, game journos.

    • @roxyquinn1960
      @roxyquinn1960 2 часа назад

      This!!!! They shouldn't even compare!

  • @notYisan
    @notYisan 3 часа назад +20

    i really really hope failguard win the game of the year. once it win youtube could dismantle it entirely and shows that the whole gaming journalism thing is a fraud and remove any trace of credibility it had left basically stringing it up to dry.

    • @Kittysune12
      @Kittysune12 3 часа назад

      with SOTE might be hard but possible with how journalist glazing on flopguard really hard

    • @garvielloken8494
      @garvielloken8494 2 часа назад

      Didn't it already happen with TLoU2? Though i guess today more people opened their eyes.

  • @dotfflan
    @dotfflan 26 минут назад +1

    6:25 The guy writing that is like Lionel Hutz imagining a perfect world full of peace then shuddering

  • @Official_RetroMania
    @Official_RetroMania 3 часа назад +55

    Only 10% of gamers fans voices matter in "The Game Awards" or how I like to call them: "The Journalist and Game Company Awards".

    • @NVNNN
      @NVNNN 3 часа назад +2

      If a gamer is in that 10%, he automatically loses the status or a gamer

    • @Habib-I
      @Habib-I 3 часа назад +1

      Worse part is game awards couldve easily shut that down by putting wukong but damnn its way more corrupt than i thought

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +3

      Like the Oscars, its just an industry congratulating itself. Nothing more.

    • @Official_RetroMania
      @Official_RetroMania 3 часа назад +1

      ​@@christianalanwilson434 Yes, it reminds me of that one Obama giving himself the gold medal MEME 😂

    • @Hozasaru
      @Hozasaru 3 часа назад

      @@Habib-Ithe nominations haven’t been announced yet.

  • @BocchiTheBox
    @BocchiTheBox 20 минут назад +1

    "Let's imagine a world without video game outlets. No IGN, no Kotaku, no Polygon"
    Don't threaten people with a good time. That is a dream scenario for many people, not a dystopia.

  • @spit782
    @spit782 3 часа назад +15

    Remember,they are making games for the critics,not for the user players

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 44 минуты назад

      Then why are they having to pay off the critics with gifts?

  • @OrsotarBarr
    @OrsotarBarr 2 часа назад +1

    Normal is a point on a bellcurve not an ideal in a someone's head.

  • @reyhart4315
    @reyhart4315 3 часа назад +9

    This is the situation of the current gaming industry, instead of creating good game, they focus more on manipulation.
    Those include woke agenda, hiring biased reviewer, virtue signaling, gaslighting, victim blaming, etc.

  • @andrewkelley3434
    @andrewkelley3434 2 часа назад +1

    Nathan Greyson was one of the 'journalists' that was caught with his fingers in Zoe Quinn's pie at the beginning of the original Gamer Gate controversy. He denied that having a sexual relationship with a game developer might bias his opinion of the product that she was making and attacked the people that pointed it out. Crazy, right?!

  • @Sai86377
    @Sai86377 3 часа назад +33

    We just can't keep getting away with it boys 😞

  • @fightclubmiqo
    @fightclubmiqo 2 часа назад +1

    "The ideas they're trying to put out there can only exist whenever they're protected. They're like an endangered species, like you can't have these opinions out in the wild, they need to be protected in their own reservation and not have any other predators attack them."
    And that's one of the driving factors for Bluesky and people trying to recreate their echo chambers over there.

  • @t.ok.9261
    @t.ok.9261 3 часа назад +9

    Yeah, 08:45 -- 5/10 mario and Luigi -- 9/10 Dragon Age; enough said

    • @jeast9648
      @jeast9648 Час назад +1

      Nintendo knows how to make fun games. But they don't cater to dei so of course the "journalists" are going to give it low scores. They are scoring on inclusivity.

  • @ashael6894
    @ashael6894 2 часа назад +2

    Its interesting watching the pendulum swing back and forward across the decades of progress that corrects itself. Human conscious is fascinating

  • @FINNIUSORION
    @FINNIUSORION 3 часа назад +7

    They think people are so stupid they just buy and play whatever RUclipsrs tell them to play. They really think their game failed because of RUclipsrs. Its crazy.

    • @eastbow6053
      @eastbow6053 Час назад

      They are correct. I have seen many dumb people buying games without watching youtube reviews and regret it later imagine if youtubers didnt exist

  • @cincinnatidrones8979
    @cincinnatidrones8979 2 часа назад +1

    Yeah we get lied to on a daily basis. If you tell a lie long enough, often enough and loud enough the people will believe it.

  • @adampomeroy9463
    @adampomeroy9463 3 часа назад +6

    It’s amazing to me out of all these companies, Nobody tried to make something like Skyrim. first person with magic and weapons

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 3 часа назад

      Dragon age inquisition was skyrim 2.0 with fundamental differences with 4 companions instead of 1 and no one else tried-

    • @adampomeroy9463
      @adampomeroy9463 2 часа назад

      @ that’s why I use Skyrim as an example. First person open world. I am concerned that the woke will affect the new elder scrolls that will be coming out and it will be trash.

    • @spk1121
      @spk1121 Час назад +1

      ​@@adampomeroy9463: Zero doubt in my mind about that. The only question is, how much will they influence it? That's why I always laugh and say "No, you don't!" when someone says they want a sequel or even a remake nowadays. Maybe the tide is finally starting to turn, but the odds are still overwhelming that the producers will crap all over the beloved IP for the sake of the supposed "modern audience."

  • @Monstylicious
    @Monstylicious 33 минуты назад +1

    "The necessity of my profession"
    What an article!

  • @Bloodangel921
    @Bloodangel921 3 часа назад +5

    AAA Publishers and Developers: It’s your fault for not buying this game and making it more widespread.
    My brother and sister of Christ, you created the game for us, and the customer is always right to buy or refund it.

  • @klaede9666
    @klaede9666 2 часа назад +2

    Gamers taking a page out of Gaben's playbook: Do absolutely nothing, win anyway.

  • @utmostsubmarine2914
    @utmostsubmarine2914 3 часа назад +5

    The difference between bg3 and dragon age is that in dragon age its a scripted plot. In bg3 you create the plot according to your own choice.

    • @James-u1y
      @James-u1y 3 часа назад

      Its also one reason I'm not a fan of people saying BG3 is an activist game that forces ideas on you, because it actually lets you decide what's in front of you. Does it have some shortcomings? Of course, all things do. The difference here is that Larian is likely to improve on those things and make something better with options for everyone that are quality rather than cycling through the same weird dialogue and what feels like forced ideas into awkward in-game situations.

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 3 часа назад +1

      Yep, having the option to go down alternate paths is perfectly fine, it should even be encouraged because player agency is king in any RPG. But when you're railroaded into something because the plot (and dev) demands it, then player choice is taken away and you're handicapped by someone else making your decisions for you, which is fundamentally anti-RPG.

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 3 часа назад

      Both are choose your own adventure except veilguard it doesn't have choice of any kind-

  • @UltraFlea
    @UltraFlea 2 часа назад +1

    Talented creators know quality creates demand and respect for what they create.
    Modern creators demand you like and respect what they create regardless of quality.

  • @soldieroftongasione9851
    @soldieroftongasione9851 3 часа назад +48

    17 seconds ago is sexually irritating

  • @giantWario
    @giantWario 11 минут назад +1

    The funniest thing is seeing people say that ''600k sold copies sounds good''. Anthem sold 5 millions copies. It was considered a commercial failure. So yeah...

  • @robflynn5682
    @robflynn5682 3 часа назад +4

    Opinion journalism is not independent journalism. But independent reporting is exactly the kind of information that people want from news and magazines with test content...

    • @SauceAppleEater_2885
      @SauceAppleEater_2885 2 часа назад

      Opinion journalism can be independent and be fine, as long as you clearly mark it as an "Opinion Piece". But you are correct that journos no longer do investigative work by and large nowadays. Journalism has become an intellectual human centipede.

  • @GhostLink92
    @GhostLink92 38 минут назад

    It's literally the scene where Lionel Hutz says "can you imagine a world with no lawyers?" And everyone's living in peace and harmony.

  • @jhonatanjhs
    @jhonatanjhs 3 часа назад +6

    Let them get mad and keep losing money.

  • @shadowevil240
    @shadowevil240 2 часа назад +1

    "If you don't like it ,don't buy it."
    That's what my GRANDMOTHER said.
    What? Don't they have one?

  • @MrLilredmachine
    @MrLilredmachine 3 часа назад +4

    It's our fault that the devs are adding jiggle physics to First Descendant. I wholeheartedly stand up as being one of the many respinsible for this awful, awful, brilliant decision.
    I also look forward to being higher up the leaderboards as 80% of people playing will now be playing with one hand, rather than 50%.

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 3 часа назад

      Thats about to be "corrected" as shift up is moving to California for some reason-

    • @MrLilredmachine
      @MrLilredmachine 2 часа назад

      @vergillives9890 I'm not so sure that the US is going particularly safe for extreme leftism for at least the next 4 years at least. Direct targeting of favoured hiring and behind door payments for particular viewpoints/world views being pedalled is going to be occuring.

  • @Menky90
    @Menky90 Час назад +1

    Hey 800,000 copies is still better than Concord

  • @tronjavolta
    @tronjavolta 3 часа назад +4

    0:22 spiritbox 🎶

  • @TheNobleExile
    @TheNobleExile 2 часа назад +5

    I hope Bioware gets shutdown so they don't have a chance to ruin Mass Effect