a point about the barrage balloons: they were actually the most effective form of anti-air during WWI. Less effective in WWII with the higher altitudes of planes
SPAA only could be possible with mission score target instead of kills then since assists, caps and repairs also count. Survival would be a lot harder tho.
to answer your question in the video: M60s and M46s weren't deployed in Vietnam - the M46 had already been mostly superseded by the M48, while the M60 was seen as too valuable and too new to deploy in Vietnam, and was kept on the border in Europe instead. meanwhile, the ARVN (south vietnamese) made use of shermans and M41s. M46s /were/ used in the korean war, however
By the time of the Vietnam war the Sherman had been phased out. It was used in the war in Indochina in the 50s, but by the time of US involvement it had been replaced so ARVN never used it
@@BDP0408 The ARVN was still using the Sherman while the US was involved and even after it, but it wasn't in the same sorts of numbers that they were at the beginning. They mostly moved to a rear-line / support role, in part because they started to run out of ammunition and spare parts for them (especially after the US pulled out). The M48 and M41 were simply more effective for what the ARVN wanted. The ARVN couldn't really afford to throw out a perfectly good tank (considering who they're fighting) like the Sherman. They had to use all of the assets they had at their disposal, and so they did.
@@BDP0408 the issue with finding images on the sherman is that most of them looked pretty much the same as the american ones from the second world war in vietnamese service. i remember reading in the past that it /was/ used in a supportive capacity, but i don't remember where. i'll see if i can find a proper source and get back to you. but, yes, they were mostly phased out by the time of the vietnam war - just clarifying i'm not meaning to deny that.
Hmmmm, I think not counting deaths to aircraft as the full penalty, but rather taking a 500pt hit is a smart idea. To my mind at least, a challenge like this is about tank on tank warfare, and being attacked by aircraft just sort of spoils the fun. I'd also consider treating deaths to artillery similar. That said, as trade for these leniencies of the rules, I'd maybe consider having it to where you're not allowed to use artillery or airstrikes either, as to make it truly tank vs tank. I don't think you used artillery or airstrikes in this anyways, but I'm just thinking if you do similar going forward. That's my suggestions anyways.
They used to. But too many tanks were getting it even when they didn't have NVDs/Thermals unlocked. So instead of just unlocking them by default, night maps got removed.
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it or not yet, 90% of the tanks you see driving with their turret facing the rear are players who have set the cruise control on max, pointed themselves at the cap...and tabbed out. For some reason tabbing out of the game turns your turret 180 degrees.
@@PanzerPaw Happens every time I do, even if its just for a few seconds to mute a video or something. When I tab back in my turret is turning back to face the front. If it's a fixed gun TD or something then it will be jacked all the way to the right.
I bet you get this a thousand times a second. I’ve played with a lot of my subscribers and I’ve played with a lot of my favorite RUclipsrs. You are quickly growing and I’d love to get back into War Thunder but I have nobody to play with. So I’d love to play some rounds with you. If you’d like to just tell me in reply’s.
The barrage balloons works to a degree as it forces CAS out of action as they increase the flying height by alot which lowers their effective chances for a strike as the lower you go, the more risk you get yourself entangled or cut in half by the steel cables and for high altitude bombers, it too forces them to fly higher which made their aiming worse due to the extra height.
Barrage balloons were actually incredibly effective, if you hit the cable, you were pretty much screwed. Plus, big heavy bombers aren't going to be doing lots of ducking and weaving around cables. With that said, I've seen some reports that say they actually downed more friendly aircraft than hostile aircraft, although it should be noted that by and large over any given period there would be more friendly aircraft in our airspace than hostile.... so..... make of it as you will.
Pershing did serve in Korea but America replaced it with the Patton line of tanks. M48 and M60 were in Vietnam but the latter wasn't suited for muddy terrain Vietnam had.
There is another idea for you, Challenge: Play only on third person view. No binoculars or no sniper mode. No limitations for using zoom on the third person view. And optionally, if you want a little bit more challenging, use the bullets that have less than 750 m/s muzzle velocity.
"I made this rules set to challenge my self and to make interesting content. Oh I lost? Let me just disregard my own rules and remake on the fly so I don't have to deal with the consequences that are the entire premise for the aforementioned content" Okay dude.
It's a kind of warning before the shells hit. But they're just too much as they are right now. They tried removing them completely but then you just end up randomly dying to the shells instead. So, it just wasn't really fun either
Yea the lightning in the game is a big issue, sometimes you cant even see tanks because of it and it gives a big advantage over the other team, I leave the games asap if i dont have a booster on
maybe next time, for excess points (anything not going up a teir) allows for a certain upgrade or something, so that you arent leaving a waste of points not allocated to something
CAS doesn't count. If fact, each time you die by CAS Gaijin should send you a bunch of flowers as an apology. Actually, that rule should be general for all players in every WT match. Except CAS players of course... They should be sent a bomb letter.
you die -> you reset... it is a weapon in the game and it killed you :P but that opinion just might be me^^ i also prefer to nuzlocke every first playthrough of each new pokemon, before playing it normally :P so i might be a a fan of torturing me xD
Yo panzerpaw you might wanna turn off "join already active battles" in the settings. It'll take a bit more time to get a match but you'll spawn at the start of the battle and not midway through
I'm sorry but I do think CAS kills should reset you. 1. Overhead cover and / or concealment is a thing that should be considered when selecting BP as a former Abrams commander I would get my dick smashed in the field if I didn't find any. By my 1SG and CO 2. Someone could easily avoid Tank death by running and getting purposely killed by aircraft because I'm going to replicate this challenge, and I want a Souls type pain. Look, the more difficult, the less easy it is for someone to copy for their own channel.
I'd agree but the game makes it difficult to avoid. At top tier especially. Early tanks would be too slow to run away, modern tanks face ATGMs that you won't see coming. And I'm not really concerned about someone "copying" the idea. It's not really that original an idea anyway lol. I'd welcome more people to try these kinds of challenges anyway. It's fun! :D
Warthunder if the Tank Gunner and Driver survived an entire war.
Fr
KERTZ!
@@angryeliteultragree6329 its over müller 😔
a point about the barrage balloons: they were actually the most effective form of anti-air during WWI. Less effective in WWII with the higher altitudes of planes
i dont know if thats real or not, but makes so much sense, that i wouldnt be surprised if itsthe most effective
getting killed by Cas shouldnt count because you cant really do anything to avoid it
agreed
choose the aa tree to go up?
yes but then it would be hard to make any progress unless he is counting only kills and deaths by planes@@biedawo
SPAA only could be possible with mission score target instead of kills then since assists, caps and repairs also count. Survival would be a lot harder tho.
@@PanzerPaw that would work and be really fun to watch
Only use of Pershing in Vietnam I’m aware of was training. Otherwise it was the US T54 and M48. M60 entered service in final months of the war
Dankeschön for answering this
I'd say cas death is -500 to -1000, so maybe -750?
Ya know what? If you do it again, go for AA.
Yes!
@@Bonk996 No
Terrible idea, I love it.
Always great when panzer uploads a vid
I love to see more like this.
Maybe try a minor nation instead for some more unique vehicles
to answer your question in the video: M60s and M46s weren't deployed in Vietnam - the M46 had already been mostly superseded by the M48, while the M60 was seen as too valuable and too new to deploy in Vietnam, and was kept on the border in Europe instead. meanwhile, the ARVN (south vietnamese) made use of shermans and M41s.
M46s /were/ used in the korean war, however
By the time of the Vietnam war the Sherman had been phased out. It was used in the war in Indochina in the 50s, but by the time of US involvement it had been replaced so ARVN never used it
@@BDP0408 The ARVN was still using the Sherman while the US was involved and even after it, but it wasn't in the same sorts of numbers that they were at the beginning. They mostly moved to a rear-line / support role, in part because they started to run out of ammunition and spare parts for them (especially after the US pulled out). The M48 and M41 were simply more effective for what the ARVN wanted.
The ARVN couldn't really afford to throw out a perfectly good tank (considering who they're fighting) like the Sherman. They had to use all of the assets they had at their disposal, and so they did.
@@azellaaaaa I couldn't find a single source showing that the sherman was present at all, let alone used. If you could show me that would be great
@@BDP0408 the issue with finding images on the sherman is that most of them looked pretty much the same as the american ones from the second world war in vietnamese service. i remember reading in the past that it /was/ used in a supportive capacity, but i don't remember where. i'll see if i can find a proper source and get back to you.
but, yes, they were mostly phased out by the time of the vietnam war - just clarifying i'm not meaning to deny that.
I absolutely would like to see you attempt to make it through with this challenge on more nations
Cas shouldn’t count for the sake of you sanity.
Hmmmm, I think not counting deaths to aircraft as the full penalty, but rather taking a 500pt hit is a smart idea. To my mind at least, a challenge like this is about tank on tank warfare, and being attacked by aircraft just sort of spoils the fun. I'd also consider treating deaths to artillery similar.
That said, as trade for these leniencies of the rules, I'd maybe consider having it to where you're not allowed to use artillery or airstrikes either, as to make it truly tank vs tank.
I don't think you used artillery or airstrikes in this anyways, but I'm just thinking if you do similar going forward.
That's my suggestions anyways.
Just found you last night through your AC6 video. Never played War Thunder but love your commentary
Glad to hear it! Also more armored core coming very soon!
Man, you actually give me challenges to try to play for myself,good stuff !!
This was such a cool video!! I’d love to see u try other tank branches and how well u do with them
I think when thermals start appearing night maps should start appearing too
They used to. But too many tanks were getting it even when they didn't have NVDs/Thermals unlocked. So instead of just unlocking them by default, night maps got removed.
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it or not yet, 90% of the tanks you see driving with their turret facing the rear are players who have set the cruise control on max, pointed themselves at the cap...and tabbed out. For some reason tabbing out of the game turns your turret 180 degrees.
I've tabbed out loads of times and never seen that myself but that's still interesting to find out. 🤔
@@PanzerPaw Happens every time I do, even if its just for a few seconds to mute a video or something. When I tab back in my turret is turning back to face the front. If it's a fixed gun TD or something then it will be jacked all the way to the right.
Yep, I love night maps more than nuclear sun. In fact I prefer night maps. You can adjust it so that it's not that dark.
I bet you get this a thousand times a second. I’ve played with a lot of my subscribers and I’ve played with a lot of my favorite RUclipsrs. You are quickly growing and I’d love to get back into War Thunder but I have nobody to play with. So I’d love to play some rounds with you. If you’d like to just tell me in reply’s.
Love ur content. Keep it up 👍❤️
The barrage balloons works to a degree as it forces CAS out of action as they increase the flying height by alot which lowers their effective chances for a strike as the lower you go, the more risk you get yourself entangled or cut in half by the steel cables and for high altitude bombers, it too forces them to fly higher which made their aiming worse due to the extra height.
Did you know that the W in the Shermans means that the ammo is being ‘protected’ and reduced chance of exploding when hit or set afire
You should try this challenge with SPAAs lol
Damm some tiger players carry way to much ammo with them
quick point, the barrage balloons are there to stop dive bombing, not normal bombing
5:56 the absolute coincidence of the teams' nations being on the right sides
The M46 is an upgraded pershing with a different engine and transmission it has the same gun but with access to HEAT-FS
7:10 I've flied planes into those cables by accident, they 100% work.
Would be cool seeing this again with another tank line, maybe the heavy line next time?
Barrage balloons were actually incredibly effective, if you hit the cable, you were pretty much screwed. Plus, big heavy bombers aren't going to be doing lots of ducking and weaving around cables.
With that said, I've seen some reports that say they actually downed more friendly aircraft than hostile aircraft, although it should be noted that by and large over any given period there would be more friendly aircraft in our airspace than hostile.... so..... make of it as you will.
Pershing did serve in Korea but America replaced it with the Patton line of tanks. M48 and M60 were in Vietnam but the latter wasn't suited for muddy terrain Vietnam had.
Artillery smoke gets me killed so many times they need to get rid of it maybe just show you a grid square kill zone on the map.
18:13 Nope, Pershings did not participate in Vietnam War, it was M48
They could tone down the sun but i love mornings and evenings, they look the best
There is another idea for you, Challenge: Play only on third person view. No binoculars or no sniper mode. No limitations for using zoom on the third person view. And optionally, if you want a little bit more challenging, use the bullets that have less than 750 m/s muzzle velocity.
This has to be the best challenge ever bro !! Good job
With the m2 medium there's 2 fixed mgs in the hull front so that's 4 sponson 2 hull and 1 coaxial with the 2 spares
somebody: how many machine guns you have?
me: yes.
I really miss playing Ground Zero, it was the one good night map.
5:10 is a bloody blind German main moment😂
Do this with United Kingdom tech tree
1:10 i only just noticed the 52 mgs on that tank lmao
Poor M3, anyway good video
Nice vid the m3 lee is offended😂
"I made this rules set to challenge my self and to make interesting content. Oh I lost? Let me just disregard my own rules and remake on the fly so I don't have to deal with the consequences that are the entire premise for the aforementioned content"
Okay dude.
I've watched gameplay for years, but never played. That being said, I remember when there was no arty smoke and I question why it needs to exist.
It's a kind of warning before the shells hit. But they're just too much as they are right now. They tried removing them completely but then you just end up randomly dying to the shells instead. So, it just wasn't really fun either
bit sad you skipped the M3 Lee as its a sleeper in my experience, its surprisingly good when done right
Aint no one..talking about the 19k silver lions 💀
This was funny and enteraining to watch while watching my dinner man-
there should be a ground RB where there is no CAS
Yea the lightning in the game is a big issue, sometimes you cant even see tanks because of it and it gives a big advantage over the other team, I leave the games asap if i dont have a booster on
"put it in reverse terry" i noticed you sneaky editor
maybe next time, for excess points (anything not going up a teir) allows for a certain upgrade or something, so that you arent leaving a waste of points not allocated to something
I would definitely say CAS doesn’t count but you have to minus 500pts which you did so good one😂
No planes shouldn't count because you cannot avoid it with 1 life.
They didn’t get rid of night maps, its just a setting that is off by default now.
This a pretty neat video idea
5:00 i mean he is a german main so it explains why he didnt see the shot honestly
The two top mounted machine guns on the M2 don’t count, there are two fixed ones in the front
As a tank nerd I believe it’s ceased service in 1950 and was replaced by the Patton
I want you to do a thing where you play every single Sherman in the game you have
The front of the turret of t-34’s is really easy to pen even with a bofors 40mm
*Hits commander and gunner*
Oh I didn't get the gunner
This was a cool idea and fun to watch. I'd like to see you try it in arcade :)
Hey panzer is APFSDS MEAN ARMOR PIERCING FIN STABILISED DISREGARDING SABOT
The m2 has 7 machine guns the 2 on the turret don't count but the 4 under the turret, 2 on the Hull and 1 on the turret
Poopie and I can stress this enough doo
the 500point should go up every BR.
Yeah I might play around with the score number requirements for the next one.
German main moment at 5:07
CAS deaths shouldnt count. You can have matches where you just get bombed more than you kill tanks
M26 and M46 are actually the same tank, their only difference is the M46 has a slightly different gun and a different transmission
5:16 avg German main😂
Very cool vid
Love u yellow guy 💛
How do you do that sight thing for shotting far
i miss the good old times when the m4a1 76 was actually good at 4.7 because at 5.3 it is armorless and in my opinion i dont like the gun
My brother in christ, use HE on the face of the achillies or the m36b.
nice video:)
The pershing was used late ww2 and all the way to early veitnam
if you see anyone with a reversed turret they're afk/tabbed out
What if you do a challenge with only redeemed rewards like the Russian badger lvt
What Tank did u serve in when u where a Tank Commander?`i think i have heard u say Leopard
Leopard 2 :)
9 minutes ago? It feels illegal to be so early
CAS doesn't count. If fact, each time you die by CAS Gaijin should send you a bunch of flowers as an apology. Actually, that rule should be general for all players in every WT match. Except CAS players of course... They should be sent a bomb letter.
you die -> you reset... it is a weapon in the game and it killed you :P but that opinion just might be me^^ i also prefer to nuzlocke every first playthrough of each new pokemon, before playing it normally :P so i might be a a fan of torturing me xD
Why not do this with every nation
17:15 dude ...
Someone should try doing this in arcade
Why do you have so much ping in every video?
m26 was used in vietnam
dying to cas should just make the game not count in higher tiers
I say its valid no cas kill count
day 2 of asking, can you do a light tank only challenge you ca make your own rules.
nuslock would be fun
I had to look up what this meant and yes, it really is. Something like that might be up next for a video.
Bro I couldn’t dream of doing this I suck 😂
how i can set the rage ?
Under controls, the mouse wheel axis setting for camera zoom can be swapped for range adjustment.
thx@@PanzerPaw
bro you can't die and just say it doesn't count just because it's to CAS
Yo panzerpaw you might wanna turn off "join already active battles" in the settings. It'll take a bit more time to get a match but you'll spawn at the start of the battle and not midway through
I leave it on so I can get into battles quicker since I sometimes play at random times. It's still pretty rare that I get a super late match anyway
maybe change a country next time is a good idea :D
I bet this guy has a lot of classified documents.
Please leak🥺
I'm sorry but I do think CAS kills should reset you.
1. Overhead cover and / or concealment is a thing that should be considered when selecting BP as a former Abrams commander I would get my dick smashed in the field if I didn't find any. By my 1SG and CO
2. Someone could easily avoid Tank death by running and getting purposely killed by aircraft because I'm going to replicate this challenge, and I want a Souls type pain. Look, the more difficult, the less easy it is for someone to copy for their own channel.
I'd agree but the game makes it difficult to avoid. At top tier especially. Early tanks would be too slow to run away, modern tanks face ATGMs that you won't see coming. And I'm not really concerned about someone "copying" the idea. It's not really that original an idea anyway lol. I'd welcome more people to try these kinds of challenges anyway. It's fun! :D
do dis agen but ussr version