Starting the Kodiak without destroying the engine in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2022
- Following an update recently, the Kodiak has become much more realistic. You must now follow real-world starting procedures in order to avoid destroying the engine. In this video I walk through both how to destroy the engine, and how to start it without destroying it, before taking the aircraft for a quick circuit.
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You had it right the first time: once NG has reached 14, you push it to the low idle, not high. And you should really leave it in low idle during taxi. You only push it to high idle just before you enter the runway. You can watch just about any of Missionary Bush Pilot's videos for this.
Cheers for the tips :)
I almost thought I made a bad purchase because I've only watched pre-patch start up videos on this plane and always blew it or had no thrust so this video saved me! Thank you so much!!!!!!
Welcome aboard!
Thank you for this guide I managed to start the Kodiak first time without destroying the engine 😂. I have only had some short test flights in the Kodiak so far but WOW what a truly fantastic add on. The sense of immersion flying this has far exceeded my expectations. The way it handles on the ground and in flight is truly off the scale from any other flight sim add on I have tried so far.
Glad it helped
This is the aircraft I love to use. I have arguably better or more entertaining or better performing aircraft, but this is the one that feels right, particularly when I go exploring (usually because I underestimated terrain or weather!).
I really hope this can be updated to study level someday. Thanks again, JB.
The Kodiak is on sale this weekend, so the temptation was too much for my credit card. After wiping out 3 engines, I found this video - THANK YOU!! Subscribed! :)
It's a great aircraft - and yes - the realistic start-up procedure is fun :)
Just got this plane today. Looking forward to learning the specifics about it. Slowly getting my favorites in each class together.
Airliner is fenix a320. Bizjet is Cessna Longitude. Bush plane is kodiak 100. Still havent decided on a small plane, but likely just the cessna 172. The first three will keep me busy for awhile. Lol
Absolutely ❤ the explanation! Made me buy the plane, learn the aircraft, and now touring all the countries in the world
i wondered what was happening and what that awful sound was, why i wasnt getting thrust lol. thanks its just what i needed. really glad to see it becoming even more realistic.
Cheers :)
Hi Jonathan, got the Kodiak a few months ago & haven't flown it yet. So thank you for the start-up. All the best, Con
You're welcome :)
Great Video! I was having issues starting but you have cleared that up for me. By far my favorite plane. My favorite real life flight channel is Missionary Bush Pilot.
Jonathan, you're costing me a fortune with these reviews!
Just flown her for the first time - wow, she bites! :O
Glad you like them!
I love your videos! Enjoyable and informative.
Thank you for this video! Helped me out a lot, this plane is a lot of fun to fly
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for sharing this info. This plane was on my to buy list for quite sometime and i just bought it. I struggled with it for a couple hours (mostly cold and dark starts and also low engine power after starting) and wondered if it was buggy at first. NO, this was certainly not the case it is not buggy, it was ME that was buggy.😂 Turns out, it is a very realistic and detailed aircraft and the developers put a lot of effort into it and it shows. Definitely one of the best deals on the spring sale right now. I just took a flight in it out to the great barrier reef. No doubt, I'll be putting a lot of flights on this one.
Great aircraft, one of the best ! I appreciate the amphibian version as well, so you can land on the water…not much extra to pay. Thx for sharing your knowledge Jon !
You're welcome :)
Something I’ve always wanted to know ! Thx Jon
You're welcome :)
Many thanks!! I broke down a couple of Kodiaks before seeing your video 😁
No problem 👍
Not something you hear every day..."we're going to blow the engine up" ... i giggled hard. Thanks for the info!
Glad to help lol
Again you are saving me, thank you sir!
Happy to help!
I agree with you its a very good addon. Immersive 100%
Love the Kodiak :)
yes yes the procedures must be followed propperly and Thank You
Absolutely :)
Thanks a lot, very nicely explained
Most welcome!
Thanks, you helped me not to destroy the engine!!!
thank you very much! excellent content!
You're welcome :)
Finally found a solution!! Thanks a lot!
Glad it helped!
Very very helpful! Thank you much. Love this airplane.
Its slight backwards, I thought. In some you don't turn on avionics untill after engine start.
The guages are in the G1000 though - so you need the screen on to see them.
@@jonbeckett I knew that. 🤣
as soon as ATR comes out im waiting a how to start video from you Beckett :)
Can't wait!
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
I enjoyed this more than I should have...
Boooom :) lol
I just made this mistake again lmfao 😂my cat basil said I was dumb and had to watch this video again
Just saw your video, and I have a veto.
The reason for the Hotstart is NOT that you forgot to start the fuel pump. It even starts with fuel pump in the standby position very nicely.
The true reason is, when you switch the red cutoff-left to early from off to low (or high) position!
This gets the famous Hotstart, because you inject fuel before you have a proper airflow thru the engine.
This burns your turbine instantly, which is maybe half a million to repair for the Kodiak.
Ouch :) Great info!
Yes nice that the accuracy is improving. Fairly new to turbines and being the keeno to do it right that I am I download the POH before searching RUclips. The TBM POH is over 900 pages!
3rd flight I ended up flying the trip manually as AP wouldn't engage. When I landed and was going through shut down procedure I realised I had forgotten to engage the AP auto trim switch!!
With regard to hot start - haven't seen a POH yet that doesn't insist you check throttle quadrant for emergency power lever, throttle, prop lever and fuel condition lever all being in right place as part of before start procedure. Should be standard for all turbines
The fun thing is that each aircraft differs slightly in terms of procedure, because the hardware and systems are always different. And of course we jump between aircraft, and often struggle to remember "how does this one work again?" :)
@@jonbeckett yep exactly! Tbm starter switch goes off automatically. Caravan you have to switch off yourself. Like you say - it is great when they model failures accurately. Loving this sim just want the flight models to be more accurate on stock aircraft. Can't wait to test flight model on xplane 12
Lol 😂 ok, thank you I was wondering what was wrong with it. The milviz porter was doing the same. Again thanks.😂
No problem 👍
Thanks!
Thankyou!!
Interestingly the Pilatus porter POH has you engage the starter before you turn ignition on to make sure you get oil pressure Only when you see oil pressure do you turn ignition on Thought that was quite interesting
Yes, you watch engine oil pressure come alive when you are on the starter, but you want the engine turning on a PT6 when you turn the igniters on. You don't want to turn the igniters on if the engine isn't turning in case there is fuel in the engine. You always want an turbine engine turning when you do this. Some turbines with fadec just require you to hit the start button, and the computer takes care of everything, and I have to assume some of the newer PT6 variants, specifically those in helicopters have this. I have run PT6's in ag airplanes, and have flown some Air Tractors with a Walters turbine conversion on them as well.
Thank you 👌👌
You're welcome
Great video buddy. Do you recommend the avionics update. ? I’ve bought the Kodiak 100 just not flown it yet on the Xbox series X.
Sim Update 10 included the G1000 update - so it's kind of non-negotiable now :)
Despite how nicely this plane turns, I find it difficult to taxi. It's very similar to the Cessna 208B which Microsoft has improved over time but this is plane is worth the price especially after the last two updates.
Absolutely - the flight modelling is great.
Don't put propeller and conditioner on max. Taxiing don't need much prop 🤙
Fuel conditioning on low.
Hiya John
Firstly love your channel and all the GA videos. Soft question, could help me out how to configure my tca trust controller to use the second lever for the prop. Have tried and just can't get it right. Thank for the kodiak videos ya had the engine problem thanks again
All you need to do is remove the existing prop assignments, then add the correct one by choosing the axis - don't bother wiggling the levers to detect them - it will get it wrong. L Axis X is the left stick, L Axis Y is the right stick.
If you search for everything assigned to L Axis Y, you can remove throttle etc from it too.
Thank!!!!!
You're welcome
I still find this the most infuriating aircraft to start. Even following what you go through in this, I have only managed to get it to actually start once or twice out of 30 attempts.
It starts for me every time :) You must be doing something odd? The only real trick is not to introduce fuel for a few seconds.
Hi Jonathan! For me it is too difficult to use as an aircraft in msfs. I have seen your videos and others, to inform me. I wanted to buy it, but I gave up. But it is a very beautiful and detailed aircraft. It would be nice if they also developed the Kodiak 900 for msfs.
Once you get your head around starting it up, it's not too bad :)
now wonder. I was thought what is wrong with the kodiak. I thought the program was got some error. So it become more realistic now. thanks for the tutorial.
You are welcome!
@@jonbeckett Could share me the link where I can get the NXi for G1000 because the advisory keep blinking white
@@LinardyJourney it's built into Sim Update 10 - and is available in the marketplace (or at least it was)
Great video ..thanks 👍
Just a quick question....which airfield is this? 😀 ...looks good
It's the Wycombe Air Park / Booker airfield made by PilotPlus.
nice Video and nice information. Would you mind sharing the settings of the Airbus Throttle? Thank you in Advance
When I get a chance I'll do it :) Fiddling with the axis sensitivity for aircraft that don't allow you to calibrate seems to confuse a lot of people.
I’ve blown a few engines lately, so I’m revisiting this tutorial :) Should be good now :) I’ve been editing sound.xml file, to stop annoying lower the gears message in the amphibian version of Kodiak, unsure if successful…time will tell
Hah - I haven't had a go in the amphibian for ages!
@@jonbeckett If/when you do, please let me if you’re getting that annoying audio alert about the landing gear
Great advice on the engine start, but you don’t need to go to main menu, you can just select restart flight which will be a bit quicker and you won’t need to recreate the flight plan.
You're wrong - if you cause an out-and-out engine failure, there's a quirk in the programming of flight simulator - that a restart won't fix - especially with the Kodiak.
The SWS forums are full of people asking about it.
@@jonbeckett worked for me, so maybe it wasn’t totally broken.
@@jonbeckett ok I tried this again this morning, did exactly as you did and broke the engine. Everything identical and just using restart flight, the plane started correctly using the same procedure you provided. No need to go back to main menu, I am on Xbox series X so maybe behaviour isn’t the same as PC. So, I’m not wrong for Xbox at least! 😉
I've seen some people start the engine with the propeller at high RPM. Would that damage the engine?
From what I've read, the reason you don't want to introduce fuel too early is that there wouldn't be enough air moving through the engine and thus cause a hot start.
It's crazy how finicky and unforgiving a turbine engine is compared to a piston engine.
If you introduce fuel too early, it will build too much pressure when it ignites. If the engine is turning over, the fuel that gets injected and combusted is burnt and gone.
I’m using the same controller, you might have config for thrust and propeller on previous videos ?
I'm not sure - I just configured the controller as per the plane - so I ended up with left stick for throttle/reverse, and right stick for pitch.
I’ll configure the same way. Blew the engine 🔥 last night, it’s back to the drawing board. Good startup video ! Haven’t flown Kodiak for 1/2 year and it shows
Hi! Excuse me but restart with hot engine it’s the same procedure?
Ouch! Right in the wallet.
Thank goodness this a simulation.
Right!
I wrote down this essential list... let's see. everytime I have to try a couple of times before a succesful crash during takeoff. anyway, g1000nxi has A LOT of options to configure it as you wish ;) hsi map as well. check it out.
Please tell me what is ignition for? I just saw a 2 min video showing " how to start engine" and that guy started this engine without using ignition why?
It depends on the situation in which you are starting the engine. If you read the documentation that comes with the aircraft, it goes through the various scenarios and when you should and should not use ignition.
i rl wish they could add an option in msfs to enable collision with other aircrafts npc and player ones.
It would be good fun, wouldn't it :)
Frustrating that developers don't actually include the procedures in the manual.
How do you restore pitch trim back to neutral after takeoff?
Erm... by trimming the pitch back to neutral ? :)
@@jonbeckett sure but at what rate? Starting after takeoff or only after flaps are back to 20? Etc.
Any tips for starting the Kodiak at high altitude airports such as SLLP?
Use longer runways, and take off fast :)
@@jonbeckett Don't seem to be able to get the engine to tick over at that airport presumably due to the high altitude. I'll ask ground crew if they can give me a push 😉
I have both Kodiak & Sim updated but I cant get engine started. The ITT is too low - 8° and does not increase. I have set everything correctly, even the BEACON lights and required bypass... Still nothing.
If you've previously damaged the engine, you have to re-start I think - because of a bug in the sim.
@@jonbeckett Actually not. Now I managed to correctly start the engine several times in a row, even from a saved flight. So I guess something was wrong in my first attempt.
6:08 This is LOW Idle ;-)
Hi, can anyone help? No matter what I do, including going back to the main menu and creating a brand new flight, my previously cooked engine keeps starting hot from cold and dark. The SWS site now mentions "residual" engine behaviour, but not after completely going to main, I hope???? Needless to say, I follow the proper starting procedure.
As far as I understand, there is a problem with the simulator itself with certain types of aircraft failure, where the only solution is to go right the way back out to the main menu.
@@jonbeckett Hi I did, but even that is not working. Wondering if this "just me".
Hi, to my delight it wasn't "just me", a patch was released to fix the "residual ITT" issue and I'm back in business. What a great aircraft.
Yep. Not working for me ): Not red line, the engine is not blowing. ITT gets at up to 415 C and NG% gets up to 21.2 and stays there.
when will they add the smoke and fire to the engine?
That's down to the aircraft developer to do that. In most cases, MSFS does not model damage for the same reason that Gran Turismo doesn't model damage. The licensed aircraft won't want their product shown in a bad light, and modelling damage properly is potentially more difficult than the entire rest of the simulator.
@@jonbeckett Ok, thanks for the quick reply. DCS makes it pretty spectacular, like in VR, once you explode into flames you are taken on a ride above your smoke and flames to about 2000 ft. or higher , which is breathtaking. It just adds to the experience but I totally get what you are saying. Crashing and burning are not high up on their to-do lists.
oh you move it to low idle
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Ignition at OFF when engineering run
The checklist and procedures for the Kodiak 100 can be found here sv.flightsim.to/file/25247/kodiak-100-jaydee-s-checklist-procedures-pdf
WHAT IS WITH THIS PLANE 😂. I've graduated from the blown engine phase but now for some random reason, the aircraft loses oil pressure after about an hour of flight at 13K feet. I did an emergency landing and turned everything off and started cold and dark. Everything went off without a hitch. WHY did it lose oil pressure at random?
Very probably temperature.
I never get the Taws system test ok only once and also no TOD messages = Vertical Speed
It depends if you have the NXI installed (from the marketplace) - the default G1000 has bugs :)
@@jonbeckett I have NXI but ok and OBS setting it for landing will freeze the sim on the Kodiak.
easily the most difficult aircraft to fly properly in this game, and it is all because it flies like the actual plane. once the plane is in trim it handles pretty much like a real ga plane should. It is extremely difficult to get this plane into trim, and to keep it there. the under 70 torque is a little overdone. if you watch the flight portion here you will see it is out of trim most of the flight. you winged over and stalled because you needed a ton of rudder. I love the modeling, love the dynamics but this is not for beginners. it takes real work to fly properly
I don't think it's difficult to fly at all - if anything, in my opinion being more accurate makes it easier, because it behaves as it should. It's not on rails. All planes with proper flight models should require trimming all the time. Something you can't see in the video is me trimming it - because I use a hardware control for that.
Thanks for the feedback :)
If you blow the engine -- you CANNOT just "restart flight" -- you MUST exit to main menu. This cost me a good hour!
Excellent! I can fly the upgraded plane without the BOOM....Kodiak is like a girlfriend I had....Super sexy and fun to play with, but always trying to kill me. Also anyone notice that after MS SU12 - Landing lights don't work?
Not used it recently - will have to take a look!
Its okay folks, its not real 😉😉
Hah.