4.5 MILES HIGH WITH A 2000ft SEPARATION

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • Click-baiters or a dumb Journo would probably headline this something like ‘Are our skies becoming unsafe! Look at these two planes nearly colliding’! And probably somehow relate it back to a door blowing off a 737 🤷🏼‍♂️
    But in reality, this is nothing to be concerned about. These two aircraft, a Finnair A321 and Iberia A321 are separated by 2000ft. The regulations clearly state ‘minimum vertical separation for IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) is 1000 ft (300 m) below FL290 (29,000ft) and 2000 ft (600 m) above FL290’.
    Both jets (IB3148 and AY1672)were above 29,000ft with the ‘one on top’ being the Finnair jet at 34,000ft. So IFR is clearly being observed.
    So next time you look up and see this, it’s merely an optical illusion that they look so close.
    Nothing to see here, scroll on..,

Комментарии • 109

  • @egpx
    @egpx Месяц назад +44

    Great capture there. Back in the 90s Reduced Vertical Separation Minima (RVSM) was introduced and gradually adopted throughout the world. 1000ft vertical separation is now used up to FL410 so in this instance there was twice the required separation between the aircraft. As they were both flying in the same direction they would likely have been allocated levels 2000ft apart, FL320 and FL340 in this instance. Aircraft flying in the opposite direction would be allocated FL310, FL330, FL350 etc.

    • @aw4968
      @aw4968 Месяц назад

      Considering the size of the sky's, being those close still seems like an unnecessary risk, especially if there was a mismatch in size between aircraft (e.g. an A380 and a business jet).
      I think 4,000 ft should be the minimum

    • @davee9506
      @davee9506 29 дней назад +1

      I worked on the RVSM program for EuroControl back in the 90s, specifying some of the equipment used for establishing that the altimetry systems were up to the job, ground-based radar not being quite adequate. Fun times travelling around Europe!

    • @egpx
      @egpx 29 дней назад +2

      @@aw4968 1000ft separation is a tried and trusted standard that has proven perfectly safe for many years. Even RVSM has been around for nearly 30 years now. Altimeters are incredibly accurate at recording the pressure gradient. Increasing vertical separation minima would reduce the amount of usable airspace available and there's no way ATC systems could handle anything like the amount of traffic we see today.

    • @egpx
      @egpx 29 дней назад +1

      @@davee9506 I remember the transition period. Having to route aircraft over various monitoring waypoints to ensure compliance with the more stringent requirements. Also, the introduction of RVSM airspace was done in stages. Oceanic airspace came first as the air is generally 'smoother' over oceans. For a while there was an arbitrary line down the middle of Scotland where RVSM could be used to the west of it, non-RVSM to the east. Occasionally we would vector aircraft to the west of the line just so we could use 1000ft vertical separation rather than climbing or descending one of the aircraft. We obviously had to know that both aircraft were RVSM compliant, which was marked on the flight progress strip. It became a lot more straight forward when the whole airspace became RVSM and compliance was mandated for civil aircraft. Those extra usable flight levels came in very useful when the traffic levels began to increase.

  • @robertrushbrooke1028
    @robertrushbrooke1028 Месяц назад +15

    What a great capture. Imagine the view for the crews.

  • @mileshigh1321
    @mileshigh1321 Месяц назад +30

    Love "American" Jerry lol OMG !🤣

    • @DarthFurball
      @DarthFurball Месяц назад +2

      American Jerry wants to speak to your manager 😆

  • @jonathanbeale3978
    @jonathanbeale3978 Месяц назад +12

    Amazing catch Jerry . Shall we call that a Super Funky Shot. This is why we love man.😊

  • @Ian-xq4rt
    @Ian-xq4rt Месяц назад +5

    Click bait? I clicked! Great shot

  • @richardtheroadie7493
    @richardtheroadie7493 Месяц назад +8

    Sometimes in life, you're in the right place at the right time . Brilliant filming. Top job Jerry. [camera operator] edited by Gilly [gallery director]....lol

  • @jillblakeney8238
    @jillblakeney8238 Месяц назад +4

    If there is 2000 feet between the two planes. Will the passengers feel turbulence from each other? Great shot Jerry.✈️✈️

  • @mrsfloofage1349
    @mrsfloofage1349 Месяц назад +3

    😮 👀 😮

  • @lizmatthewman4039
    @lizmatthewman4039 Месяц назад +5

    Wow jerry bigjet forever ✈️♥️♥️

  • @pennyhaskins7952
    @pennyhaskins7952 Месяц назад +2

    That was incredible Jerry ! Well done for filming it

  • @aidancampbell78
    @aidancampbell78 Месяц назад +4

    I saw that live. They were so close on FR24 but obviously separated in reality.

  • @henrys.6864
    @henrys.6864 Месяц назад +1

    Probably the best "funky shot's" I've seen you capture! Awesome! 🎥✈️👍

  • @paulskilling6637
    @paulskilling6637 Месяц назад +13

    Amazing shot Jerry another fantastic capture by u

  • @barbarabeagley6650
    @barbarabeagley6650 Месяц назад +2

    I grew up here in south central Kansas, and we seem to be a great place for training in-air refueling. I've seen it happen quite a few times. It's pretty cool.

  • @Billybobble1
    @Billybobble1 Месяц назад +2

    And people worry about satellites colliding when there's more space, more altitudes, and similar numbers to planes in the sky on any given day. Great capture Jerry, kinda mad they are the same plane, so far apart, but look almost the same size despite their distance from each other.

  • @thechipman2473
    @thechipman2473 Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant footage!

  • @philiplowrie9912
    @philiplowrie9912 Месяц назад +8

    It's the best funky shot ever!

  • @TheBootleLad
    @TheBootleLad Месяц назад +4

    Definitely a Funky shot🎉

  • @trinity72gp
    @trinity72gp Месяц назад +3

    Jerry you're hilarious 😂

  • @RohitSharma-pr9lb
    @RohitSharma-pr9lb Месяц назад +4

    *"Quickly make the click bait out of it"*
    😂😂

  • @scoottyscott7845
    @scoottyscott7845 29 дней назад

    It’s pure magic watching this aviation is so special ❤

  • @JacksAviationUK
    @JacksAviationUK Месяц назад +10

    Now that’s something you don’t see everyday

  • @RomNYC
    @RomNYC Месяц назад +1

    Oh my gahhhhh! That's next-level Flippin Heck 😂

  • @nigelarmstrong252
    @nigelarmstrong252 Месяц назад +1

    Nice catch Jerry, I missed it on live.
    Wonder if the pilots spoke to each other ?
    DRS for aircraft.

  • @hammersteve2746
    @hammersteve2746 Месяц назад +1

    A great capture....and tremendous mockery of the world we live in...😅

  • @KyllanMan
    @KyllanMan Месяц назад +3

    Great footage!

  • @mostlydollshelicopters4799
    @mostlydollshelicopters4799 Месяц назад +3

    I love it !!! Nice catch!😊✈️✈️

  • @supsnail
    @supsnail 29 дней назад

    Beautiful!

  • @penelopebailey4531
    @penelopebailey4531 Месяц назад +2

    Wow great capture Jerry 😀

  • @youdoyouplayer8529
    @youdoyouplayer8529 Месяц назад +1

    Second best eclipse of the year.

  • @nickyhurle4682
    @nickyhurle4682 Месяц назад +1

    What a film, gee whizz American Jerry, good one !

  • @janetkennedy5940
    @janetkennedy5940 Месяц назад +1

    Great capture just before the clouds.

  • @DancingCat999
    @DancingCat999 Месяц назад +1

    Absolutely incredible

  • @tinabenfield3541
    @tinabenfield3541 Месяц назад +4

    Amazing shot

  • @bethf1111
    @bethf1111 Месяц назад

    I swear I thought those two planes were doing something questionable 🤣 glad I clicked on the link hahaha

  • @steveread7372
    @steveread7372 Месяц назад +1

    Amazing shot Jerry ❤️❤️❤️

  • @peterlee6745
    @peterlee6745 Месяц назад +2

    Had this Was on a 767 at 34 k feet When a 350 came past us no more than a Mile apart Both going the Same way /Awesome to See

  • @a7m4sum
    @a7m4sum 29 дней назад

    Amazing Capture! Awesome! 💯💯💯

  • @CompleteCretin
    @CompleteCretin Месяц назад +4

    Haha so right about the headlines. Actually I wouldn't put it past the Daily Fail to actually run it as a 'near collision' story now with this video 🤣

  • @Rasscasse
    @Rasscasse Месяц назад +1

    This was a real good one to get !
    Go you Jerry
    Will I see you in Monte Carlo at the weekend ?
    Second last corner yeah 😜

  • @barbaraseagle8693
    @barbaraseagle8693 Месяц назад +1

    So cool!!!

  • @Pirate-Scorcher-1998
    @Pirate-Scorcher-1998 Месяц назад +1

    Would that be rare to see ? That was awesome

  • @jcmanc72
    @jcmanc72 Месяц назад +2

    That’s nuts right there

  • @kevin19358
    @kevin19358 Месяц назад +1

    Wow.

  • @jasonrichardson2950
    @jasonrichardson2950 Месяц назад +1

    Hi...I'll be landing an A350 (CX239) in LHR tomorrow afternoon (22 May 24)...any chance you'll be recording landings? Would greatly appreciate the chance to show my future grandkids what I used to do for kicks!

  • @rickgrear8270
    @rickgrear8270 23 дня назад

    That happened over my house once, I almost hyperventilated 😅

  • @AndrewLumsden
    @AndrewLumsden 29 дней назад

    Evidently these two pilots knew precisely that Jerry was below them and just wanted to show off!

  • @swills4772
    @swills4772 Месяц назад +1

    It was a near total eclipse

  • @miked9958
    @miked9958 Месяц назад +1

    awesome!

  • @widk2
    @widk2 Месяц назад +3

    Very good camera

  • @AndrewLumsden
    @AndrewLumsden 29 дней назад

    No question that the pilots in the plane catching up to the first would have seen it but knew there was no need to change their course.

  • @keiths3895
    @keiths3895 Месяц назад +3

    Looks awesome - the rear plane must have had such a great view

  • @Speedbird9L
    @Speedbird9L 27 дней назад

    Perspective can play weird tricks. I saw a plane almost crash into the moon yesterday!

  • @eloisebrynlee
    @eloisebrynlee Месяц назад +2

    😅 Telling it like it is lol.

  • @richardo4878
    @richardo4878 29 дней назад

    Jerry did you hear about SG321 emergency landing in BKK! Very sad!

  • @marcusianaviation9372
    @marcusianaviation9372 Месяц назад +3

    Hahaha your commentary 😂

  • @moreheff
    @moreheff 28 дней назад

    Superb shot

  • @andrewhickinbottom1051
    @andrewhickinbottom1051 Месяц назад +1

    Far funky shot!

  • @sabira2274
    @sabira2274 Месяц назад +1

    Wow ❤

  • @Parr4
    @Parr4 Месяц назад

    That was a great catch!

  • @scottw4336
    @scottw4336 Месяц назад

    Nature's birds chirpin....man's birds flying high

  • @uptake2
    @uptake2 Месяц назад

    So true… perspective is such a fickle thang!

  • @corradoparris9679
    @corradoparris9679 28 дней назад

    What is this an air show. 😂😂😂 Cool video!!

  • @BLODKI2160
    @BLODKI2160 29 дней назад

    I saw two Ryanair's flying 1000ft above each other

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 27 дней назад

    Very cool

  • @danj9519
    @danj9519 Месяц назад

    Amazing

  • @Judess89
    @Judess89 Месяц назад +1

    Hello BIG JET TV.

  • @russellallen5523
    @russellallen5523 Месяц назад

    In the blue sky,two aeroplanes quickly mate,

  • @MileHighFlyer
    @MileHighFlyer 26 дней назад

    Great footage and commentary 😂

  • @bestcrazyboy8487
    @bestcrazyboy8487 Месяц назад +1

    Wow 🙄🥱

  • @31Alden
    @31Alden Месяц назад

    WOW

  • @kristapple
    @kristapple 29 дней назад

    I wonder if they did an ‘airdrop’ photo share 😂

  • @24084009
    @24084009 25 дней назад

    excellent.

  • @joshowenaviation
    @joshowenaviation 29 дней назад

    Nice

  • @stuartnaylor6472
    @stuartnaylor6472 28 дней назад

    If these hit turbulence like sq321😮

  • @PP-ob8zr
    @PP-ob8zr Месяц назад

    OMG!

  • @Wheels-Wheels-Wheels
    @Wheels-Wheels-Wheels Месяц назад +1

    So cool! Actually a rather beautiful moment I reckon.

  • @zeeshanqureshi3413
    @zeeshanqureshi3413 Месяц назад +1

    TECHNOLOGY

  • @MrTrevglyon
    @MrTrevglyon Месяц назад +1

    PMSL

  • @MrCafc69
    @MrCafc69 Месяц назад +1

    Superb

  • @tropicalpalmtree
    @tropicalpalmtree Месяц назад

    Oh maa gaaaad

  • @ellischernoff8603
    @ellischernoff8603 Месяц назад

    RVSM allows 1000 ft vertical separation. Look out!

  • @daveelliott5855
    @daveelliott5855 26 дней назад

    Right let's see how my aircraft ID is progressing? The higher one looks to me to be a Airbus A330-300 or A350-900 as I'm sure I can make out the sharklets, the lower one looks to be a Lufthansa going on the tail wrap, cannit see any pronounced sharklets/winglets so guessing a Boeing 787-8/9? Didn't see it live so if anyone did and know how close am I or do I need to go back to aviation ID school and study more 😂.

  • @juliearis8224
    @juliearis8224 Месяц назад

    Pretty mad and very awesome 👌

  • @grahambeyer6254
    @grahambeyer6254 Месяц назад

    I thought the minimum safe distance was 2km.

    • @fxhomie
      @fxhomie Месяц назад +2

      Vertical separation is 1000ft at lower altitudes and generally 2000ft at higher. Horizontal separation (same altitude) varies but is generally 5 miles.

  • @jaydix3974
    @jaydix3974 27 дней назад

    Was a great video untill about 0:38

  • @susiemartin3144
    @susiemartin3144 Месяц назад

    Lol

  • @nikolauswolff5791
    @nikolauswolff5791 Месяц назад

    700 meters. 500 are required. Enough. Besides that they know where the other one is ( TECAS ).

  • @fletch61
    @fletch61 Месяц назад

    😂😂

  • @wattster71
    @wattster71 Месяц назад

    Oh my GAAAAAAAHHHDDDD!!!

  • @CoyoteMTB77
    @CoyoteMTB77 Месяц назад

    Clickbait worked, nice one Jerry 🤣👊

  • @pushingtim
    @pushingtim Месяц назад

    There are airways between Europe and South America that are unidirectional and the seperation is 1000 feet. How close must that look!?

  • @earnshaw5
    @earnshaw5 Месяц назад

    Daily mail in the morning “Boeing planes in near miss in UK airspace”

    • @Speedbird9L
      @Speedbird9L 27 дней назад

      “Boeing planes full of cancer-causing illegal immigrants in near miss in UK airspace”!

  • @NQY-flyer
    @NQY-flyer Месяц назад

    It’s about 2KM if it’s horizontal separation I think

    • @egpx
      @egpx Месяц назад

      Horizontal separation varies according to surveillance factors but in this case would have likely been five nautical miles. They were of course nowhere near that far apart horizontally but were separated vertically instead.

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 Месяц назад

    When you are using any sort of zoom, the scene will be compressed and make objects like these aircraft seem closer together. So, yes, click bait it is.

  • @A380_Flyer
    @A380_Flyer Месяц назад +2

    Really dangerous. Hope whoever authorised that from ATC was fired.

    • @happycanayjian1582
      @happycanayjian1582 Месяц назад +2

      😂🤣😂 Sure, ok, fraidy cat.

    • @andyb2515
      @andyb2515 28 дней назад +1

      Not dangerous at all, RVSM has been about for many years

  • @kevinparsons1281
    @kevinparsons1281 Месяц назад +1

    ❤.

  • @adobe8708
    @adobe8708 11 дней назад

    又不是飞碟,你那么激动干什么?