I see a lot of people, including content creators, being confused by the 6th change here, specifying that they (USAP) don't want any particular shot or paddle to dominate the sport. I feel like this is simply a guiding principle that will illuminate any future changes to paddle specifications. It totally makes sense to me because if there was a particular paddle or brand that was just crazy insane to play against, it would fundamentally change the sport and tip the playing field. Just like the bats in baseball have limitations that keep them from excessive power, paddles need to be regulated at a more fundamental and consistent level. I believe they have already been communicating to paddle manufacturers the new allowed limits, so newer paddles will be within those specifications.
I definitely see what you are saying. That said, it is the "rule book" not the "guiding principles book" They need specifics on RPM's and power so paddle manufacturers and us have something to look at. This rule should specifically point us to their list of paddles that are approved. That would make a lot more sense to me.
@@pickleballplaybook I get that it feels odd for a rule book, but I think because pickleball is such a community sport, they want people to understand why the rules are made, and that it is in an effort to preserve the essence of the sport people love so much. They probably need those guidelines for themselves as they make rules. Because if the goal was to explore the reaches of human potential in a small space, they would have kept all the spin serves and wouldn't be looking at limiting paddle power, etc. Pickleball would become more like dodgeball, and we'd lose the essence of the game.
This is for the hard to understand rule: The new rule for 2025 refers to addressing an inconsistency between two important documents: the USA Pickleball Rulebook and the USA Pickleball Equipment Standards Manual. Rulebook: This document outlines the rules for playing pickleball, including gameplay, scoring, and regulations for equipment. Equipment Standards Manual: This manual provides the specific technical standards and requirements for pickleball equipment, like paddles, balls, and nets. The inconsistency likely means that some equipment rules were being interpreted differently or were conflicting between the two documents. The new rule is intended to clarify or correct this discrepancy, ensuring that both documents align on equipment-related regulations for a more consistent and clear understanding of the rules. In short, the proposal aims to make sure that the equipment standards mentioned in the Rulebook match those in the Equipment Standards Manual. Simpler: The new rule for 2025 is fixing a mismatch between two documents: the Pickleball Rulebook and the Pickleball Equipment Standards Manual. The Rulebook explains the rules for playing the game. The Equipment Standards Manual gives the rules for the equipment (like paddles and balls). This rule change will make sure both documents agree on the equipment rules, clearing up any confusion. I'm sorry this is long, Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the vid!
Love the breakdown but PLEASE clarify which rules these reference (usap). Most people still don't understand that ppa and usap have different rules....
Rule 5 "Other then a Service or NVZ or Foot Fault" So can Opponents still enforce Service and NVZ Foot Faults when The "Faulter" and their Partner disagree (Non- Refereed Match)
Great question! So in non officiated matches players can call service foot faults and kitchen faults on their opponents. If there’s a disagreement, they have to replay the point. In non officiated matches, players can call faults on the opposing team (not including kitchen faults or serve foot faults because this would result in a replay if there’s a disagreement). So if your opponent said the ball bounced twice before you got to it but you disagree with them, you get the point if they stopped play or you ended up winning the point. You don’t get the point and instead do a replay if the disagreement is about a kitchen fault or service foot fault. Please let me know if that makes sense! Very hard to explain
@@pickleballplaybook So in a rally; where both teams are at the NVZ; if player A hits an overhead and wins the point, then player B calls foot fault. Player A and Player B disagree; this is a replay?
@ sure thing! So companies like Titleist have to make their driver faces adhere to the 1.5 efficiency ratio, which means that if you have a fly head moving at 100mph, then the ball speed will be 150mph. This could be applied to pickleball with a different ratio of sorts. I don’t see any discussion of how fast the paddle is moving in relation to the speed of the ball, so I’m not sure how efficient they are.
Actually I think the bike analogy was spot on. The rule writer’s copy editor needs a talking toAnother great vid! Except for the truck(?) that’s in the background sometimes, they are very helpful!
The rule writer likely had no copyeditor. My guess is that they didn’t ask a fellow employee or even a spouse or friend to look at it. If I was a pro, I’d lobby to have the writer fired.
Love your comments about grammar around the 7:00 mark! 😄 My day job is being a QA tech/inspector. I've looked at sooo many parts and proof-read sooo many documents. Some people need to go back to writing 101! 😆 My sister has a coffee mug that says, "I'm silently critiquing your grammar." I'm thinking about getting one too, lol! Your final comments are good too about rules/techniques that a lot of people just don't always understand. I've played for nearly 15 years now and my top two pet-peeve nuances are: forehand taking the middle, and ratings.
RULE 5 , you should of added and be more clear on this, if there is disagreement you redo the point? or they say no i wasnt in and win the point? says they have the final decision? no one admits they were in huge confusion always here as to what the rule is. as written in the video , what one is it? person who faulted decides or disagreemnt redo????
Great question! So in non officiated matches players can call service foot faults and kitchen faults on their opponents. If there’s a disagreement, they have to replay the point. In non officiated matches, players can call faults on the opposing team (not including kitchen faults or serve foot faults because this would result in a replay if there’s a disagreement). So if your opponent said the ball bounced twice before you got to it but you disagree with them, you get the point if they stopped play or you ended up winning the point. You don’t get the point and instead do a replay if the disagreement is about a kitchen fault or service foot fault. Please let me know if that makes sense! Very hard to explain
You completely missed what changed on #5. Nvz faults were already allowed to be called by the opponent and if the player disagreed with the call, the result was a replay. What changed is removal of the word foot and the stipulation partners must agree on the call or it is not a valid fault call.
@ I’ve had opponents not look at their feet when they volley. This can become conflict if someone won’t call a fault of themselves who do know that they are on the kitchen line.
Wasn’t there a new rule for 2025 about serving the ball. If taken out of the air the ball must drop from your hand without your hand moving slightly up. Something along those lines.
There is. You can now toss the ball from your paddle face. This is one that was created for people that only have one arm. I didn’t share all the new rules, just the ones I found most interesting if that makes sense!
You can’t apply spin when you toss the ball. But that was already a rule. You can toss the ball from your paddle now. That might be what you’re referring to.
Could you address the rumor that in 2025 if a doubles teams ON A VOLLEY, hits paddles, touches one another in any way, it's a fault. Can you video this?
If a doubles team touches while making contact with the ball and the player that didnt hit the ball falls in the kitchen, its a fault. Does that make sense?
There is. This is one that was created for people that only have one arm. I didn’t share all the new rules, just the ones I found most interesting if that makes sense!
I think you misinterpreted rule 5. You gave an example of you being called for a foot fault then went on to explain the part of the rule that "excludes foot faults" You can still call a foot fault on your opponent.
Yeah I probably didn’t explain that very well. What I was trying to say is that that used to be the rule where your opponent could call a foot fault on you and you had no say. Now you replay the point of you don’t agree, which I still think is pretty dumb. Your opponent could at any time cheat this rule and say you foot faulted
Never seen a player who foot faulted actually believe they did lol. They are in the worst position out of anyone on the court to make that call. Should be up to their partner to go against it.
Rule 6 is crazy, not only does it limit paddle innovation more than it already is but according to the wording it also limits unique play styles that people might develop, "type of play" that could mean anything, let's ban dinking because it has dominated the sport! Why? because the rules say so! Absolutely no forethought. My main concern is why was "type of play" even included, that broad of wording feels either ignorant or malicious and my ape brain is auto locking onto the malicious vibes
As a relatively new sport, game play will continue to evolve. There are always counters being developed for new shots and plays. Remember just a couple years ago, an ATP was nearly indefensible, now they are easily countered or even counter attacked. Same story for equipment,
I get that there some lack of clarity, but pickleball is different from all other racket sports due to the kitchen. Gen 3 paddles are changing this completely, it makes the kitchen play not effective and forces higher level players to exclusively play with those types of paddles. I understand that pickleball has changed and in the 4 years I’ve been playing I’ve seen the changes and I’m happy, but for a paddle to dominate the game and change the style of play so much, it’s ridiculous. If you wanna exclusively drive and speed up go play paddle tennis, paddles should not dictate to such an extent how a game is played. I’ve seen so many lower level players with such weak kitchen game become 4.5+ players in weeks due to gen 3 paddles, that’s ridiculous. There’s only so quick your reaction time can be, and with such high velocity shots being hit 7 feet away, it makes this sport more dangerous, this danger leads to a decline in a sport, racket ball is a perfect example of this.
I like the spin cap and the speed cap just not everything else, as long as the paddle doesn't break and exceed those caps then I don't see why it matter how the paddle achieves it's stats
It's amazing how many grammatical errors we're seeing from influential corporations. I blame it on the DEI staff not being the best man for the job. Connor/Enhance PB highlighted a couple more worth mention... definition of volley being point of contact & the requirement to call your partner for a NVZ fault
Blaming grammatical errors on dei is quite a stretch. Maybe the decades long defunding and attacking of the public education system might have something to do with it.
@@EliWurth I have four decades of QA, management, education, and experience. What's obvious to me, is the best man for the job isn't important in today's woke culture. What is painfully clear, however; DEI, ESL, stupidity, influence by liberal governments, pressure from radical movements, bean counters cutting corners, nepotism, and corruption are (oooops, corrected a minor grammatical error)... with that said, I best add 'not giving a sht' to my list... take your pick, you're welcome to your own opinion, I voiced mine
I see a lot of people, including content creators, being confused by the 6th change here, specifying that they (USAP) don't want any particular shot or paddle to dominate the sport. I feel like this is simply a guiding principle that will illuminate any future changes to paddle specifications. It totally makes sense to me because if there was a particular paddle or brand that was just crazy insane to play against, it would fundamentally change the sport and tip the playing field. Just like the bats in baseball have limitations that keep them from excessive power, paddles need to be regulated at a more fundamental and consistent level. I believe they have already been communicating to paddle manufacturers the new allowed limits, so newer paddles will be within those specifications.
I definitely see what you are saying. That said, it is the "rule book" not the "guiding principles book" They need specifics on RPM's and power so paddle manufacturers and us have something to look at. This rule should specifically point us to their list of paddles that are approved. That would make a lot more sense to me.
@@pickleballplaybook I get that it feels odd for a rule book, but I think because pickleball is such a community sport, they want people to understand why the rules are made, and that it is in an effort to preserve the essence of the sport people love so much. They probably need those guidelines for themselves as they make rules. Because if the goal was to explore the reaches of human potential in a small space, they would have kept all the spin serves and wouldn't be looking at limiting paddle power, etc. Pickleball would become more like dodgeball, and we'd lose the essence of the game.
Thanks for the update!
You're welcome!
This is for the hard to understand rule:
The new rule for 2025 refers to addressing an inconsistency between two important documents: the USA Pickleball Rulebook and the USA Pickleball Equipment Standards Manual.
Rulebook: This document outlines the rules for playing pickleball, including gameplay, scoring, and regulations for equipment.
Equipment Standards Manual: This manual provides the specific technical standards and requirements for pickleball equipment, like paddles, balls, and nets.
The inconsistency likely means that some equipment rules were being interpreted differently or were conflicting between the two documents. The new rule is intended to clarify or correct this discrepancy, ensuring that both documents align on equipment-related regulations for a more consistent and clear understanding of the rules.
In short, the proposal aims to make sure that the equipment standards mentioned in the Rulebook match those in the Equipment Standards Manual.
Simpler: The new rule for 2025 is fixing a mismatch between two documents: the Pickleball Rulebook and the Pickleball Equipment Standards Manual.
The Rulebook explains the rules for playing the game.
The Equipment Standards Manual gives the rules for the equipment (like paddles and balls).
This rule change will make sure both documents agree on the equipment rules, clearing up any confusion.
I'm sorry this is long, Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the vid!
Oh interesting! I need to look into the equipment standards manual. Thanks for the helpful info
@@pickleballplaybook Thank you! Your videos are really helpful to me as a 15 yr old pickleball player🔥
Love the breakdown but PLEASE clarify which rules these reference (usap). Most people still don't understand that ppa and usap have different rules....
Good point! Will do
Rule 5 "Other then a Service or NVZ or Foot Fault" So can Opponents still enforce Service and NVZ Foot Faults when The "Faulter" and their Partner disagree (Non- Refereed Match)
Great question! So in non officiated matches players can call service foot faults and kitchen faults on their opponents. If there’s a disagreement, they have to replay the point.
In non officiated matches, players can call faults on the opposing team (not including kitchen faults or serve foot faults because this would result in a replay if there’s a disagreement). So if your opponent said the ball bounced twice before you got to it but you disagree with them, you get the point if they stopped play or you ended up winning the point.
You don’t get the point and instead do a replay if the disagreement is about a kitchen fault or service foot fault.
Please let me know if that makes sense! Very hard to explain
@@pickleballplaybook So in a rally; where both teams are at the NVZ; if player A hits an overhead and wins the point, then player B calls foot fault. Player A and Player B disagree; this is a replay?
Just like for Golf, there is an efficiency ratio that club manufacturers have to adhere to. I believe this is what Pickleball should adopt.
Would love to hear more. Don’t quite understand what that means?
@ sure thing! So companies like Titleist have to make their driver faces adhere to the 1.5 efficiency ratio, which means that if you have a fly head moving at 100mph, then the ball speed will be 150mph. This could be applied to pickleball with a different ratio of sorts. I don’t see any discussion of how fast the paddle is moving in relation to the speed of the ball, so I’m not sure how efficient they are.
Wow that would make perfect sense for pickleball!
Actually I think the bike analogy was spot on. The rule writer’s copy editor needs a talking toAnother great vid! Except for the truck(?) that’s in the background sometimes, they are very helpful!
The rule writer likely had no copyeditor. My guess is that they didn’t ask a fellow employee or even a spouse or friend to look at it. If I was a pro, I’d lobby to have the writer fired.
Yeah the laziness of these rule writers is very apparent. A change definitely needs to be made.
You know you love the truck! 😁
Love your comments about grammar around the 7:00 mark! 😄 My day job is being a QA tech/inspector. I've looked at sooo many parts and proof-read sooo many documents. Some people need to go back to writing 101! 😆 My sister has a coffee mug that says, "I'm silently critiquing your grammar." I'm thinking about getting one too, lol!
Your final comments are good too about rules/techniques that a lot of people just don't always understand. I've played for nearly 15 years now and my top two pet-peeve nuances are: forehand taking the middle, and ratings.
Yeah I don’t care if someone has bad grammar 99% of the time. But when you are writing a rule book, it needs to be pretty close to perfect!
RULE 5 , you should of added and be more clear on this, if there is disagreement you redo the point? or they say no i wasnt in and win the point? says they have the final decision? no one admits they were in huge confusion always here as to what the rule is. as written in the video , what one is it? person who faulted decides or disagreemnt redo????
Great question! So in non officiated matches players can call service foot faults and kitchen faults on their opponents. If there’s a disagreement, they have to replay the point.
In non officiated matches, players can call faults on the opposing team (not including kitchen faults or serve foot faults because this would result in a replay if there’s a disagreement). So if your opponent said the ball bounced twice before you got to it but you disagree with them, you get the point if they stopped play or you ended up winning the point.
You don’t get the point and instead do a replay if the disagreement is about a kitchen fault or service foot fault.
Please let me know if that makes sense! Very hard to explain
So on line calls can your opponents call it in or out or is it still the receiving teams call if the ball is in or out
You decide if your opponents balls are out and they decide if yours are out, just like before 👍
@ I thought if you are returning their shots though only the receiving side can make the call
Which has a bigger sweet spot the power air or the new 007
You completely missed what changed on #5. Nvz faults were already allowed to be called by the opponent and if the player disagreed with the call, the result was a replay. What changed is removal of the word foot and the stipulation partners must agree on the call or it is not a valid fault call.
Interesting!
Rule 5 is not fair since even at the higher levels I see opponents not aware of their shoe even on the NVZ line.
Can you elaborate on what isn't fair about it?
@ I’ve had opponents not look at their feet when they volley. This can become conflict if someone won’t call a fault of themselves who do know that they are on the kitchen line.
Wasn’t there a new rule for 2025 about serving the ball. If taken out of the air the ball must drop from your hand without your hand moving slightly up. Something along those lines.
There is. You can now toss the ball from your paddle face. This is one that was created for people that only have one arm. I didn’t share all the new rules, just the ones I found most interesting if that makes sense!
@ when I get a chance I’ll send you a video of what I was talking about. It’s not the one arm rule.
No music pks
Noted!
Isn't one of the rule changes for 2025 about ball spin during the serve??
You can’t apply spin when you toss the ball. But that was already a rule. You can toss the ball from your paddle now. That might be what you’re referring to.
Could you address the rumor that in 2025 if a doubles teams ON A VOLLEY, hits paddles, touches one another in any way, it's a fault. Can you video this?
If a doubles team touches while making contact with the ball and the player that didnt hit the ball falls in the kitchen, its a fault. Does that make sense?
@@pickleballplaybook no that's not the question
I think fast servers are some of the rudest players. I never serve until I know my opponent is ready.
Yeah if you have to cheat to try to win, you are not very good haha.
actually didn’t know some of these
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I thought there was a rule that you can toss a ball up with your paddle as you're about to hit a serve?
There is. This is one that was created for people that only have one arm. I didn’t share all the new rules, just the ones I found most interesting if that makes sense!
I think you misinterpreted rule 5. You gave an example of you being called for a foot fault then went on to explain the part of the rule that "excludes foot faults" You can still call a foot fault on your opponent.
Yeah I probably didn’t explain that very well. What I was trying to say is that that used to be the rule where your opponent could call a foot fault on you and you had no say. Now you replay the point of you don’t agree, which I still think is pretty dumb. Your opponent could at any time cheat this rule and say you foot faulted
Hi Austin
Hi Deb! Hope you’re well and playing lots of Pickleball!!
Yes I am playing every chance I get❣️
That’s what I like to hear!
Never seen a player who foot faulted actually believe they did lol. They are in the worst position out of anyone on the court to make that call. Should be up to their partner to go against it.
Exactly. Great points. It should be up to their partner probably.
Rule 6 is crazy, not only does it limit paddle innovation more than it already is but according to the wording it also limits unique play styles that people might develop, "type of play" that could mean anything, let's ban dinking because it has dominated the sport! Why? because the rules say so! Absolutely no forethought. My main concern is why was "type of play" even included, that broad of wording feels either ignorant or malicious and my ape brain is auto locking onto the malicious vibes
I didn’t even notice it said type of play just cause how stupid type of paddle is haha. That’s absolutely wild. Thanks for pointing that out.
As a relatively new sport, game play will continue to evolve. There are always counters being developed for new shots and plays. Remember just a couple years ago, an ATP was nearly indefensible, now they are easily countered or even counter attacked. Same story for equipment,
it's not a rule though, it's a "guiding principle"
I get that there some lack of clarity, but pickleball is different from all other racket sports due to the kitchen. Gen 3 paddles are changing this completely, it makes the kitchen play not effective and forces higher level players to exclusively play with those types of paddles.
I understand that pickleball has changed and in the 4 years I’ve been playing I’ve seen the changes and I’m happy, but for a paddle to dominate the game and change the style of play so much, it’s ridiculous. If you wanna exclusively drive and speed up go play paddle tennis, paddles should not dictate to such an extent how a game is played.
I’ve seen so many lower level players with such weak kitchen game become 4.5+ players in weeks due to gen 3 paddles, that’s ridiculous. There’s only so quick your reaction time can be, and with such high velocity shots being hit 7 feet away, it makes this sport more dangerous, this danger leads to a decline in a sport, racket ball is a perfect example of this.
I like the spin cap and the speed cap just not everything else, as long as the paddle doesn't break and exceed those caps then I don't see why it matter how the paddle achieves it's stats
It's amazing how many grammatical errors we're seeing from influential corporations. I blame it on the DEI staff not being the best man for the job. Connor/Enhance PB highlighted a couple more worth mention... definition of volley being point of contact & the requirement to call your partner for a NVZ fault
You're spot on, a lot of it was poorly written. I hope they clarify it soon!
Blaming grammatical errors on dei is quite a stretch. Maybe the decades long defunding and attacking of the public education system might have something to do with it.
Oh piss off, can you not even comment on a pickleball video without whining about "herp a derp DEI WOOOOKE" lay off the Alex Jones videos, clown
@@EliWurth I have four decades of QA, management, education, and experience. What's obvious to me, is the best man for the job isn't important in today's woke culture. What is painfully clear, however; DEI, ESL, stupidity, influence by liberal governments, pressure from radical movements, bean counters cutting corners, nepotism, and corruption are (oooops, corrected a minor grammatical error)... with that said, I best add 'not giving a sht' to my list... take your pick, you're welcome to your own opinion, I voiced mine
USAP should reference USTA The Code Section of the Friend at Court.
Can you explain?
Rule 6 shows the rules committee is clueless. Ridiculous.
Haha it makes no sense 😂. “Hey let’s write a rule to say people can’t make paddles that dominate the sport but not clarify what that means”
That on and off loud music was very annoying and made it difficult to hear what you were saying.
Noted 👍
Rule 6 is vague and incomprehensible. Its impossible to enforce ultimately a waste of the ink it took to write it.
Exactly! Haha great way to put it 🖊️
no the first rule should be: hop off my tip
Rule 6 is terrible. Vague rules are bad rules. Get specific or gtfo.
Exactly, let’s get some specific rules out there, or don’t write them at all imho.
Clickbait thumbnail much?
Powerful paddles can’t dominate the sport. That Joola paddle was banned 👍