@@hibad9843 English is my 3rd language. When in situation of conflict, stress, I do mess up my sentences and something go silent but that lady right there lacked any thoughts. I can bet that she was just trying to save face. And her expressions and actions that followed guarantee that. - She looked shaken - She asked the audience to jump in. People usually do that when they are embarrassed and want to share it with other so as to make it normal.
If anyone is toxic - regardless man or woman, just don’t deal with them. You can’t control anyone except for your own thoughts. So move it towards something that serves you and is worth your time. Life is short, save your time.
Hmm, I just realized that I wasted too much mental energy on such thoughts and attempting to debate on these topics. Your comment is a refreshing reminder ! We should focus on more important matters.
@@saihinadir Maybe it's not wasted.. There must be a reason why you have these thoughts and why you focus on these thopics. If you could step aside yourself and make an effort to countiously look for this reason, for what is behind these interests of yours, that would make you understand something more about yourself and your motives. Thats always good and not a waste of time imo.
@@szymongrabarczyk3561 I admit the reason for me spending energy on these topics is probably due to my ego, my ardent desire to be right... It sounds weird I know, but I am growing aware of the "dark side" of me. This dark side of mine is toxic, and egoistic; and the internet environment only makes it easy for that bad side to come up to the surface.
@@saihinadir Doesn't sound weird to me. I would add that lot of these YT videos are tendentious/bias. Sometimes even the title already suggest you which side of the argument is "right". Creators present the material in such a way, that theres a clear, binary good and bad side, like in fairy tales. Sometimes it's hard not to jump on the hate bandwagon with the sense of "doing the right thing".
Rule 2 of debating Jordan. You have to know what debating means. Rule 3 of debating Jordan. Since you are not well about debating somebody like that because you will put in the light of day you own mediocrities that you don't want to think about and have to put thought in the things that aren't safe for you go to comment section on the internet.
I'm sick of hearing about toxic masculinity, as if masculinity is somehow toxic. Peterson is correct in calling it 'sinful behaviour', i.e. transgressional- in other words: a violation of boundaries. Toxicity is gender neutral.
@Kai McCook Being overly sensitive, totally irrational and overly emotional behavior could be viewed as toxic femininity if we wanted to go down that road.
@dobermann I'd concur that 'toxic males' usually display attributes which are said to be more feminine. In fact, men are usually toxic to the degree in which they lack masculine qualities.
‘I struggle with english’ - sure, was perfectly fine before you were actually asked to define a stupid claim. Look how relieved she was when she thought she didn’t have to answer the question.
in all fairness, is not the same to listen than to speak a language. I have around 15 years of daily experience with the English language. but that all reading and listening, as well as some writing comments on the internet. but outside class and tests, I have less than 5 minutes of overall experience speaking it. last year a tourist talked to me in English and I struggled to think fast how to talk, for I sounded like a three-year-old trying to have a conversation.
@@elessal maybe she should have through on how she defined the term though, as JP rightly points out, definitions are important. She literally had no clue as she had to call for the audience to 'help her out'. She would have done well to think on it before lobbing her partisan attack question.
@@elessal Yeah, a tourist talked to you out of nowhere, but this was not the same case at all. It was that girl that made the question to Jordan who struggled to talk, and let me presume that she was aware of this Q&A thing a while ago. So the fact that she can't suddenly define something that is the main topic herself brings on the table… come on. Not a single excuse possible on that.
Even the moderator knew what was coming for her, he tried to help giving a her a way out, “We are out of time, next question!”, but she decided to keep going. Bad choice.
i love this man. absolutely cuts through all the bullshit and speaks eloquently and precisely and dissects every aspect of what’s asked or discussed clearly. and doesn’t show bias in anything whatsoever. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@fauxhawkboy109 That tide will turn . It wont happen overnight and it will take time to get there but if you look you will start to see the signs that its turning. The first sign was when women said they were not comfortable identifying as feminists. The tide will turn eventually.
HER: "I want to know what's your take on Toxic masculinity"? JP: What precisely do you mean by Toxic Masculinity"? HER: I really want to know how you would describe Toxic Masculinity" HER: blah blah blah .............I lost my sentence" ME:: Seriously???????? this is a joke. you just want to be seen and pride yourself in the fact that you actually tried to challenge JP , the problem is, he cannot be easily challenged.. Neeext........
I LOVE how every 'self-assuming smart but pre-conceived bias' person (WOMAN) starts questioning JP with a specific look of pride, fieryness, almost righteousness till he starts answering...then it immediately turns to a look of WTF is happening...where's my mommy...I want my mommy...🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I was lol so hard when the camera went back to her trying to understand him answering 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I was at the event! The funny thing is, this woman had messaged me before the event since she was an intern for a Dutch journalist. She asked me whether she could interview me, saying that she wanted to talk to me because I look good. Very ironic that she is the one to talk about toxic masculinity at the event itse
All of a sudden she struggles with English, these people are amazing. I guess that could explain why she has no idea what she is standing up for, or against after reading those tumblr posts she skimmed over that got her outraged and inflamed!
Toxic Masculinity is simple but troublesome.. its the behaviour of a male individual or group that is found to be offensive, disruptive, uncomfortable and inappropriate to others. But there is a problem here because all of those responses are subjective to the individuals' belief system which is not only defined by a unique set of circumstance (historical and current experiences) but is actually on a continuum and will change over time. Now, if an individual has belief systems that adheres to their peers then you have a community of belief and a subsequent collective that feel the need to protest. This is quite normal tribal human behaviour and does not usually need to be justified or defined if the tribe are a large minority of self professed 'victim culture'. It is therefore quite possible that the many of the members of the tribe are in fact completely unaware of any explicit definition that clarifies the perspective and position of the protest. This is problematic as the boundaries of tolerable behaviour are as blurred as the definition itself.
I don't want to assume that she's not a nice or a good person, but she doesn't think for herself and it's dangerous to even have this discussion about something that isn't real, because it gives people the sense that it is real and valid. If the shoe were on a different foot and we were to ask why women are inherently bad, or why a particular race is inherently bad, that would not be considered acceptable. I'm just glad that we have people like Jordan Peterson addressing it. If she were to ask Shapiro that question, he'd just ridicule her and she wouldn't hear anything he said.
Considering the fact that she lost the 'discussion' the moment she asked her question, she should do her research and try to do something about her goddamn ego.
If someone is kind enough to understand your question/problem and tries to provide you with a response to the best of his/her capacity, at least one can be thankful by putting a basic effort to understand the point. Here, Jordan went ahead to explain with an example, but the questioner already knew the answer she wanted.
Toxic masculinity defined: behavior exhibited by an individual which is associated with traditional masculine attributes that causes harm to the individual and or others such as domineering behavior, aggression, sexual objectification of women, emotional repression, and over reliance of oneself.
OMG!! Man when he said, “it’s more of SINFUL behavior”…and smiled, I think him and I connected on a personal level at that moment. Shoutout to the man JP. Real recognize real my G!
There’s a woman to the left of the girl asking the question that made me laugh when Jordan asks what is toxic masculinity. She makes his face that says “ Yes try to define it. Bet you can’t.”
I have no doubt that some people use the term without knowing what it means. But as a man who grew up in a western country, I don't have to think very hard to find an example of what probably does fall into the category of toxic masculinity. For instance, when a bunch of guys make a comment about a women's body in a public setting. I've witnessed this myself, and it can be really uncomfortable. Is that representative of all men, no. But from my own experience, it's probably common enough to be considered a masculine tendency. I have been in groups where that's not only accepted, but encouraged. I suppose what may be difficult for some is defining when something is masculine, or when we say something is masculine purely because it's done by a man.
People just hear other people say things or explain things and then they jump on bandwagons and associate themselves wit things that they dont understand. Proof
0:09 ...Right off the bat, she's not even looking to have her question answered or to better understand his opinion. Just the opportunity to challenge and/or mock him. Why go to events like this if you're unwilling to take a few moments to just listen patiently when the speaker is attempting to answer YOUR Question!?
the look on her face around 1:20 is priceless, she knows she's stepped into a bear trap. what is toxic. well it's subjective and besides that we are all interconnected so for anyone to judge someone as toxic is defining yourself and the environment around as such. how about healing and changing general perspectives of one another and then perhaps some harmony can happen
there is no such thing as toxic masculinity. It is said that this describes a misconception of masculinity that, when acted out, has a negative impact on others. But that doesn't describe toxic masculinity, but a misconception about masculinity. A wrong idea about a thing is not the thing itself, but remains an idea. The term could therefor be "toxic notion" about masculinity. This means that it is no longer masculinity that is toxic, but the misconception of a person is toxic. Just as many feminists like to portray men as something bad per se, I would rather say that these feminists have toxic ideas about men. The battle term is then illogically transferred to masculinity in order to be able to attack men in general. That itself is toxic. Masculinity is not.
I like the face expression of the girl behind of the speaking girl - she was sooo happy about the question at first, she was doing this thing with her tongue, but when it came to the definition part, she was as lost... I say it not from haha point, it is cute to look at, of course, but it is wonderful to discover, that there are other points of view, and life is not so damn easy.
Jordan Peterson is a Canadian clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology. Let me repeat. A clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology. He is not bluffing, and his powers of reasoning reflect his commitment to learning.
What is sad most of all is the fact he has to use a simple game with his granddaughter to prove his point,but it was the only way to explain it to her that she could understand. But honestly ,explaining it in such a simple way still baffled her.
I think she meant: “Toxic masculinity involves cultural pressures for men to behave in a certain way.” For example the the cultural pressure of requiring men to hide their sad emotions which eventually could eventually turn into aggression, the expectation on men needing to behave non-effeminate way or that if they do they need to say “no-homo” as though men are not supposed to express their admiration towards other men’s beauty or good physical appearance etc, or when men are expected to be working long hours or sleeping less or have scars or not to go to spa in order to appear more “manly”. But I think that could apply to toxic femininity or toxic humanity as well. The antidote here is kindness, trust, and responsibility. JP did answer it. I think was referring to that toxic masculinity’s cure. Sorry, English isn’t my first language either.
I love the guy in the back realizing JP’s point in real time. Seeing that all people behave in toxic behavior not just men, it is sometimes just more obvious, more violent with more men. The smile on his face when he realizes JP places her in her spot is hilarious!!!!!
Jordan makes such a good point that most of the people that throw around the toxic masculinity phrase around also object to strict definitions of gender. If someone is born, say, a man and feel they are, for example, a woman trapped in a man's body then that is entirely up to them, and they should be allowed to live that life. It is not my business. Of course I am aware that the gender self-definition is much more nuanced than the example I gave. The reason, IMHO, that it appears that all the toxic humans in, say, public life are male is due to historical imbalance that has not been addressed fully yet. Personally, I feel that 99% of politicians are toxic, regardless of gender identity. I understand that Jordan's problem originally, that lost him his job at Toronto University, was a free speech issue. In his case, I think he is being sincere, as opposed to a noisemaker like Ben Shapiro, whose objection is informed by his ultra-conservative religious beliefs. For me, personally, if I met someone and they asked me to use a certain pronoun, I would out of respect for their feelings. Not sure what Jordan's position on this is. However, he is right in that it should not be set in law, as that indeed can lead to 1984's Newspeak. A paucity of vocabulary inevitably leads to a lesser human experience. Sorry for going on.
She really rubbed him the wrong way when she didn't accept his gentle response. He had to turn aggressive and a person who's full of shit is rarely ready for that
I like how English became her second language when she was asked to define it
@Shreyas Misra you're right.
English is my second language too but if i was volunteering to debate JBP I'd prepare myself at least
Excellent observation
😂😂I’m dead 💀
So true. Asked about Toxic Masculinity like she grew up in Canada. When asked to define, suddenly she just arrived from Stuttgart.
@@hibad9843 English is my 3rd language. When in situation of conflict, stress, I do mess up my sentences and something go silent but that lady right there lacked any thoughts. I can bet that she was just trying to save face. And her expressions and actions that followed guarantee that.
- She looked shaken
- She asked the audience to jump in. People usually do that when they are embarrassed and want to share it with other so as to make it normal.
If anyone is toxic - regardless man or woman, just don’t deal with them. You can’t control anyone except for your own thoughts. So move it towards something that serves you and is worth your time. Life is short, save your time.
It's great to see a like minded outlook on this topic. Great input ! I agree wth you 100% and the world needs more logic like this
Hmm, I just realized that I wasted too much mental energy on such thoughts and attempting to debate on these topics. Your comment is a refreshing reminder ! We should focus on more important matters.
@@saihinadir Maybe it's not wasted.. There must be a reason why you have these thoughts and why you focus on these thopics. If you could step aside yourself and make an effort to countiously look for this reason, for what is behind these interests of yours, that would make you understand something more about yourself and your motives. Thats always good and not a waste of time imo.
@@szymongrabarczyk3561 I admit the reason for me spending energy on these topics is probably due to my ego, my ardent desire to be right... It sounds weird I know, but I am growing aware of the "dark side" of me. This dark side of mine is toxic, and egoistic; and the internet environment only makes it easy for that bad side to come up to the surface.
@@saihinadir Doesn't sound weird to me. I would add that lot of these YT videos are tendentious/bias. Sometimes even the title already suggest you which side of the argument is "right". Creators present the material in such a way, that theres a clear, binary good and bad side, like in fairy tales. Sometimes it's hard not to jump on the hate bandwagon with the sense of "doing the right thing".
Rule 1 of debating Jordan. Don't .
wally west HAHAHA!!! 👌
Rule two dont take thhe piss
Rule 2 of debating Jordan. You have to know what debating means.
Rule 3 of debating Jordan. Since you are not well about debating somebody like that because you will put in the light of day you own mediocrities that you don't want to think about and have to put thought in the things that aren't safe for you go to comment section on the internet.
Wally West aren’t you stuck in the speed force?
Why ...that’s exactly the mark for well minds??? He would want this Hehe
I'm sick of hearing about toxic masculinity, as if masculinity is somehow toxic. Peterson is correct in calling it 'sinful behaviour', i.e. transgressional- in other words: a violation of boundaries. Toxicity is gender neutral.
@Kai McCook Being overly sensitive, totally irrational and overly emotional behavior could be viewed as toxic femininity if we wanted to go down that road.
@Tera Hunter Damn, nice. Very accurate.
@dobermann I'd concur that 'toxic males' usually display attributes which are said to be more feminine. In fact, men are usually toxic to the degree in which they lack masculine qualities.
Process you didn't get anything from the video
both genders have ways of deception
‘I struggle with english’ - sure, was perfectly fine before you were actually asked to define a stupid claim. Look how relieved she was when she thought she didn’t have to answer the question.
So true. Dishonesty at its finest
in all fairness, is not the same to listen than to speak a language. I have around 15 years of daily experience with the English language. but that all reading and listening, as well as some writing comments on the internet. but outside class and tests, I have less than 5 minutes of overall experience speaking it. last year a tourist talked to me in English and I struggled to think fast how to talk, for I sounded like a three-year-old trying to have a conversation.
@@elessal maybe she should have through on how she defined the term though, as JP rightly points out, definitions are important. She literally had no clue as she had to call for the audience to 'help her out'.
She would have done well to think on it before lobbing her partisan attack question.
If she struggles with English, she doesn't understand the answer.
@@elessal Yeah, a tourist talked to you out of nowhere, but this was not the same case at all. It was that girl that made the question to Jordan who struggled to talk, and let me presume that she was aware of this Q&A thing a while ago. So the fact that she can't suddenly define something that is the main topic herself brings on the table… come on. Not a single excuse possible on that.
Even the moderator knew what was coming for her, he tried to help giving a her a way out, “We are out of time, next question!”, but she decided to keep going. Bad choice.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true. I literally got disappointed when I thought she had got out of that scott free, only to triumph in seeing her flounder.
Moderator was a pussy then.
"I'll explain toxic masculinity"
"I struggle in English"
"I lost my sentence"
"No No No ha ha ha"
Feminism, 21st century.
They are a disgrace to the humanity
Is that all you got to fight equality?
Laura Lexi ???? feminism isn't a synonym of equality
You forgot to put "maybe someone help me... in the audience".
when a feminist is crying then another feminist tells her don't cry or Jordan Peterson will come and then the feminist dies
I'm tired of hearing the term "toxic masculinity" .... hey guys let's band together and talk about "toxic femininity" next and see what happens
It's been tried. The result is usually crickets. Sometimes it's a shitstorm.
Femininity isn't toxic. Neither is masculinity.
@@wonjubhoy of course it is and the effects of toxic masculinity have shown over centuries in various forms.
We win ! Lol
Have you ever worked in an environment of women and compare it to men environment lol drama drama drama 😛
"Definitions actually matter."
If you mess with a sword, expect to get cut.
4:45 She just described feminism perfectly.
i love this man. absolutely cuts through all the bullshit and speaks eloquently and precisely and dissects every aspect of what’s asked or discussed clearly. and doesn’t show bias in anything whatsoever. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I like how she interrupted Jordan Peterson and asked after not to be herself interrupted. Is this toxic feminity?
Yes but no one would dare talk about "Toxic feminity" as its not trendy
@@fauxhawkboy109 That tide will turn . It wont happen overnight and it will take time to get there but if you look you will start to see the signs that its turning. The first sign was when women said they were not comfortable identifying as feminists. The tide will turn eventually.
Toxic hypocrisy
Toxic delusion 😂
HER: "I want to know what's your take on Toxic masculinity"?
JP: What precisely do you mean by Toxic Masculinity"?
HER: I really want to know how you would describe Toxic Masculinity"
HER: blah blah blah .............I lost my sentence"
ME:: Seriously???????? this is a joke. you just want to be seen and pride yourself in the fact that you actually tried to challenge JP , the problem is, he cannot be easily challenged.. Neeext........
neeeeeeeext
Neeeeeeeeext
I Love that Guy , he really meade my life better
when a feminist is crying then another feminist tells her don't cry or Jordan Peterson will come and then the feminist dies
Made *
I LOVE how every 'self-assuming smart but pre-conceived bias' person (WOMAN) starts questioning JP with a specific look of pride, fieryness, almost righteousness till he starts answering...then it immediately turns to a look of WTF is happening...where's my mommy...I want my mommy...🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I was lol so hard when the camera went back to her trying to understand him answering 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
eye want my bubby....
Santtosh Arya you found this uncomfortably funny
shorty was like let me phone a friend. Ole I need help for 200 face ass.
This was painful
Peterson taking the role of Sadist.... and the SJW that of the Masochist. I think she probably "got off" on the verbal drubbing a little.
When JP hits you with "Let's do it! " and gives you this look at 4:23 You know you opened up a can of worms that you shouldn't have lol
Bleeh- haha
This is one of the most brilliant answers that I've ever heard him provide.
She was last seen playing on the freeway.
hahaha
I didn't get the joke. I'm sorry English is not my first language. I do get the meaning though, just not the joke.
It was so brutal and hilarious at the same time
Typical playing the "victim" card😑
Women lob the grenade of “toxic masculinity” into a conversation, yet just like a grenade, they can’t tell you technically how it actually works.
It places all responsibility on men to be perfectly virtuous, while denying any real responsibility of women to do the same.
Funny how quickly that proud look she had when she asked the question went away 😆
You could see how uncomfortable she got when Peterson asked her to define it
I was at the event! The funny thing is, this woman had messaged me before the event since she was an intern for a Dutch journalist. She asked me whether she could interview me, saying that she wanted to talk to me because I look good. Very ironic that she is the one to talk about toxic masculinity at the event itse
I think we could say that the way she interrupted a very thorough answer to her question is what we can call "toxic".
Why someone would doubt or try to label this man is beyond me.
All of a sudden she struggles with English, these people are amazing. I guess that could explain why she has no idea what she is standing up for, or against after reading those tumblr posts she skimmed over that got her outraged and inflamed!
So many people don't deserve to be there
I absolutely love when people try and outsmart Jordan Peterson.
it's like watching a cat readying to pounce on a Lion, the cat simply doesn't know any better.
"Lets doit!!" That was sharp!
"You must grow up and help yourself and not make people bend over backwards"
"Can I get some help from the audience duhh"
On ya Jordan.
Toxic Masculinity is simple but troublesome.. its the behaviour of a male individual or group that is found to be offensive, disruptive, uncomfortable and inappropriate to others. But there is a problem here because all of those responses are subjective to the individuals' belief system which is not only defined by a unique set of circumstance (historical and current experiences) but is actually on a continuum and will change over time. Now, if an individual has belief systems that adheres to their peers then you have a community of belief and a subsequent collective that feel the need to protest. This is quite normal tribal human behaviour and does not usually need to be justified or defined if the tribe are a large minority of self professed 'victim culture'. It is therefore quite possible that the many of the members of the tribe are in fact completely unaware of any explicit definition that clarifies the perspective and position of the protest. This is problematic as the boundaries of tolerable behaviour are as blurred as the definition itself.
I don't want to assume that she's not a nice or a good person, but she doesn't think for herself and it's dangerous to even have this discussion about something that isn't real, because it gives people the sense that it is real and valid. If the shoe were on a different foot and we were to ask why women are inherently bad, or why a particular race is inherently bad, that would not be considered acceptable.
I'm just glad that we have people like Jordan Peterson addressing it. If she were to ask Shapiro that question, he'd just ridicule her and she wouldn't hear anything he said.
So what is "Toxic Femininity?" Could it be the overwhelming desired to be cared for by others and a rejection of individual responsibility?
That suggested definition fits into both childishness and narcissism.
Interesting similarities.
This segment is GOLD!!!!
3:57 watch the guy in the blue shirt and black hair. He’s having the time of his life
Wish that was an emoji 😂
It's like a movie for him 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guy had just put 100 euros on JP sinking a three-pointer in the next minute.
“So maybe on to the next question” sips water lmao drops mic. Beast mode
1:53
"What was I thinking??"
His answer was way too long for her attention span
Exactly
Hide under a rock and cry...cry a lot I would if I was her.
Considering the fact that she lost the 'discussion' the moment she asked her question, she should do her research and try to do something about her goddamn ego.
A nice respectful conversation. A great way to persuade others of a better stream of thinking on a matter.
If someone is kind enough to understand your question/problem and tries to provide you with a response to the best of his/her capacity, at least one can be thankful by putting a basic effort to understand the point. Here, Jordan went ahead to explain with an example, but the questioner already knew the answer she wanted.
She just wanted validation that all the problems in her life are due to men and are not a product of her own shortcomings.
Cringe 🤣
These women dont want solutions to their problems but solutions to men they dont like
4:24 who was that guy who tried to skip her demise?
Toxic masculinity defined: behavior exhibited by an individual which is associated with traditional masculine attributes that causes harm to the individual and or others such as domineering behavior, aggression, sexual objectification of women, emotional repression, and over reliance of oneself.
The smile of possession.
Her question itself is toxic with the toxic thought process. We need to be careful with these kinds of toxic females
Woman to her friends: Jordan was mansplaying his toxic masculinity when he asked me to define it which was why I couldn’t answer it.
OMG!! Man when he said, “it’s more of SINFUL behavior”…and smiled, I think him and I connected on a personal level at that moment. Shoutout to the man JP. Real recognize real my G!
There’s a woman to the left of the girl asking the question that made me laugh when Jordan asks what is toxic masculinity. She makes his face that says “ Yes try to define it. Bet you can’t.”
I have no doubt that some people use the term without knowing what it means. But as a man who grew up in a western country, I don't have to think very hard to find an example of what probably does fall into the category of toxic masculinity. For instance, when a bunch of guys make a comment about a women's body in a public setting. I've witnessed this myself, and it can be really uncomfortable. Is that representative of all men, no. But from my own experience, it's probably common enough to be considered a masculine tendency. I have been in groups where that's not only accepted, but encouraged. I suppose what may be difficult for some is defining when something is masculine, or when we say something is masculine purely because it's done by a man.
2:23 High AF
Before asking a question, please be prepared for the answers even if you don't like them or at least be prepared for an intelligent argument.
.
Everything about her shows that she was not pursuing content, but a moment in fame.
People just hear other people say things or explain things and then they jump on bandwagons and associate themselves wit things that they dont understand. Proof
she was so not ready for that level of reply
0:09 ...Right off the bat, she's not even looking to have her question answered or to better understand his opinion. Just the opportunity to challenge and/or mock him. Why go to events like this if you're unwilling to take a few moments to just listen patiently when the speaker is attempting to answer YOUR Question!?
kinda of uh kinda of uh kinda of uh uh uh I lost my sentence.
This man...
*chefs kiss*
the look on her face around 1:20 is priceless, she knows she's stepped into a bear trap. what is toxic. well it's subjective and besides that we are all interconnected so for anyone to judge someone as toxic is defining yourself and the environment around as such. how about healing and changing general perspectives of one another and then perhaps some harmony can happen
Typical. Throw a buzzword around to judge others, but never be accountable for your own actions and beliefs.
Her: How would you fix this problem?
Him: Define what problem you're talking about.
Her: . . .
"Uhh uhhh uhh my english is good no bad speeky lost place no speeky good"
02:23 when the shrooms kick in.
We had a wooden spoon 'game' in my house growing up, too.... It was quite different to that, though.
This man brings rocket launchers to little fist fights
there is no such thing as toxic masculinity. It is said that this describes a misconception of masculinity that, when acted out, has a negative impact on others. But that doesn't describe toxic masculinity, but a misconception about masculinity. A wrong idea about a thing is not the thing itself, but remains an idea. The term could therefor be "toxic notion" about masculinity. This means that it is no longer masculinity that is toxic, but the misconception of a person is toxic. Just as many feminists like to portray men as something bad per se, I would rather say that these feminists have toxic ideas about men. The battle term is then illogically transferred to masculinity in order to be able to attack men in general. That itself is toxic. Masculinity is not.
I like the face expression of the girl behind of the speaking girl - she was sooo happy about the question at first, she was doing this thing with her tongue, but when it came to the definition part, she was as lost... I say it not from haha point, it is cute to look at, of course, but it is wonderful to discover, that there are other points of view, and life is not so damn easy.
He is a great teacher indeed
When your friend begs you to go up and ask a question for them.
She was about to cry 😀.
Jordan Peterson is a Canadian clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology.
Let me repeat.
A clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology.
He is not bluffing, and his powers of reasoning reflect his commitment to learning.
“I lost my sentence now”. I don’t think you ever had it darling..
Yes Jordan 💪
So rude to speak over him as he was answering her question.
A teachable moment.
PhD in Victimhood on lock
She brought a popular liberal one liner to the table of a master philosopher expecting to stoke emotion but received logic.
I strive to be as good as a debater as him
I could listen to Jordan Peterson discuss developmental stages of children all day. Incredibly fascinating
What is sad most of all is the fact he has to use a simple game with his granddaughter to prove his point,but it was the only way to explain it to her that she could understand.
But honestly ,explaining it in such a simple way still baffled her.
Perfect example of how to make fool of urself instead of making fool of person you are pointing finger at.
The inquirer is actually brilliant
I think she meant: “Toxic masculinity involves cultural pressures for men to behave in a certain way.”
For example the the cultural pressure of requiring men to hide their sad emotions which eventually could eventually turn into aggression, the expectation on men needing to behave non-effeminate way or that if they do they need to say “no-homo” as though men are not supposed to express their admiration towards other men’s beauty or good physical appearance etc, or when men are expected to be working long hours or sleeping less or have scars or not to go to spa in order to appear more “manly”.
But I think that could apply to toxic femininity or toxic humanity as well. The antidote here is kindness, trust, and responsibility. JP did answer it.
I think was referring to that toxic masculinity’s cure. Sorry, English isn’t my first language either.
I love the guy in the back realizing JP’s point in real time. Seeing that all people behave in toxic behavior not just men, it is sometimes just more obvious, more violent with more men. The smile on his face when he realizes JP places her in her spot is hilarious!!!!!
5:36 wtf is the guy in a white shirt doing 😂
It *looks* like he's squeezing a facial zit and eating it. Talk about toxic masculinity...!
well said sir 😃😁
Jordan is so eloquent.
His final speech literally smack, slap and punch that girl pride, ego whatever with his words
Ladies and gentlemen..........
We got em
The background whispering is so creepy lol
Yeah I'm wondering what that's about
He said I will not heel and I’m dying on this hill unapologetically. And rightly so. The term is ridiculous.
Jordan makes such a good point that most of the people that throw around the toxic masculinity phrase around also object to strict definitions of gender. If someone is born, say, a man and feel they are, for example, a woman trapped in a man's body then that is entirely up to them, and they should be allowed to live that life. It is not my business. Of course I am aware that the gender self-definition is much more nuanced than the example I gave. The reason, IMHO, that it appears that all the toxic humans in, say, public life are male is due to historical imbalance that has not been addressed fully yet. Personally, I feel that 99% of politicians are toxic, regardless of gender identity. I understand that Jordan's problem originally, that lost him his job at Toronto University, was a free speech issue. In his case, I think he is being sincere, as opposed to a noisemaker like Ben Shapiro, whose objection is informed by his ultra-conservative religious beliefs. For me, personally, if I met someone and they asked me to use a certain pronoun, I would out of respect for their feelings. Not sure what Jordan's position on this is. However, he is right in that it should not be set in law, as that indeed can lead to 1984's Newspeak. A paucity of vocabulary inevitably leads to a lesser human experience. Sorry for going on.
She really rubbed him the wrong way when she didn't accept his gentle response. He had to turn aggressive and a person who's full of shit is rarely ready for that
I love Jordan Peterson :)
Don't take anyone seriously having "toxic masculinity" in their vocabulary
She clearly brought a knife to a gun fight.
In her mind he just defined toxic masculinity.
Brought this upon herself when she interrupted him in his idea.
They don’t have a clue what he’s talking about you can see it in their faces 😂