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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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    This documentary revisits the controversial history of the battle of the Plains of Abraham and its key generals, Wolfe and Montcalm, when the English empire expelled the French from North America.
    Directors: Olivier Julien, Brian McKenna
    Stars: Noel Burton, Arthur Holden, Marcel Jeannin
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Комментарии • 170

  • @brucebisbey9554
    @brucebisbey9554 Год назад +14

    Brilliant piece of history brought to life. Well told and acted out. Cheers from a Yank whose people came from Sandwich, England on the HMS Hercules in 1635 at Plymouth and were rebels in the revolution.

  • @aliciagee6840
    @aliciagee6840 2 года назад +12

    I was just given a book on my families genealogy, and found out that James Hamilton (my ancestor) fought with Wolfe, I am absolutely enthralled with this battle now. I have so many questions.

    • @marcafterdark1003
      @marcafterdark1003 Год назад +1

      The French handed Quebec over to the British so many things just don't make sense

    • @jeremiebernatchez5494
      @jeremiebernatchez5494 3 месяца назад

      R you serious, we didn’t hand over shit

  • @kwd3109
    @kwd3109 2 года назад +8

    Really need to do something about the background music and battlefield noise drowning out the narration.

  • @geraldmiller5260
    @geraldmiller5260 8 месяцев назад +5

    Excellent presentation!

  • @geraldmiller5260
    @geraldmiller5260 8 месяцев назад +4

    The worst pain imaginable to any many are kidney stones. I am surprised Wolfe could even stand.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 8 месяцев назад

      ​@user-sc3ts6lf8rhow could you possibly know that you ridiculous person 😂😂😂

  • @georgejenkins3371
    @georgejenkins3371 2 года назад +22

    Too bad the people who did this did not have sense enough to lower the background noise/music when the narrator is speaking. They also seem to forget that not all Indians fought with the French. The Iroquois were English allies.

    • @Templarspartan
      @Templarspartan 2 года назад +2

      It's kinda funny how it gets painted when we learn about it in history class today, we're always taught that because of the different ways the British and French went about colonizing the new world, the Natives saw the French as less intrusive... which may be true relatively speaking, since Napoleon had no problem selling massive amounts of french territory in the new world. Kinda suggests they didn't put down roots too deep. However, the Iroquoise almost never get mentioned and you're almost forced to guess they sided with the French, without knowing any better.

    • @gchambs
      @gchambs Год назад +3

      @@Templarspartan Louis XV was King of France during the twilight years of New France (Quebec) and Acadia (New Brunswick and Cape Breton), Napoleon became Emperor after the French Revolution which happened a couple decades after the British had control of upper and lower Canada. The French being outnumbered by the British colonies in North America went to greater lengths to secure native allies. The Iroqouis confederacy weren't particularly fans of the British but absolutely hated the Huron, who where allied with the French

    • @flintandball6093
      @flintandball6093 Год назад +6

      The Iroquois traded either the English but for most of the time were neutral when it came to war.
      The French most definitely were better to the Indians. The integrated with them in settlements and ways of life. Because they didn't seek to conquer by the time of the Seven years War, they were outnumbered by the English something like 20:1.

    • @georgejenkins3371
      @georgejenkins3371 Год назад

      @@flintandball6093 , you need to go look up the facts instead of just giving opinions that suit your agenda. One of Champlain's first adventures was to go with the Hurons and Algonquins in an attack on the Iroquois in 1609, just one year after he founded Quebec. This laid the foundation for the alliances thereafter. Nice attempt at setting up a strawman argument. The facts that the English out numbered the French has nothing at all to do with what I wrote.

    • @marcafterdark1003
      @marcafterdark1003 Год назад +1

      Well I'm sure they learned real quick when they got slaughtered few years later by the English they should have stay with the French and not turned on them for money🤔 💵

  • @JohnPartyka
    @JohnPartyka 3 года назад +10

    I found this historical clip very informative and interesting, yet when we learned about this significant battle at school 60 tears ago, it was so full of indoctrination that most of us kid's hated history... and the rote memorizing of dates & names. Hopefully by now, people like those who produced this excellent video have changed all that.

  • @jean-louislalonde6070
    @jean-louislalonde6070 Год назад +8

    This story takes serious shortcuts with reality. Looking back it is easy to say that this battle was the turning point that gave North America to England. It was not. Quebec surrenderred five days later. There was another battle fought almost on the same premises the following spring, a battle won by the French led by chevalier de Lévis. Moreover, the Seven Years War was fought on various continents (India, West Africa, the West Indies, Europe). The fate of New France could have been way different had the French negociators decided to keep it. But then France would have had to cede something else somewhere.

  • @rickjohnson9558
    @rickjohnson9558 Месяц назад

    I'm heading to Quebec in October (2024). Thanks for posting!

  • @georgejcking
    @georgejcking 2 года назад +8

    Excellent documentary!!!!

  • @sebastiansuarez2378
    @sebastiansuarez2378 2 года назад +8

    I really like that they do a lot of scenes with the highlanders.

  • @Bronislaavv
    @Bronislaavv Год назад +5

    The script has the participants using the term "guerrilla warfare" . That term was not yet coined at that time ; not until Napoleonic Wars. Perhaps it might have been more accurate to have them using the term "Indian Style" warfare.

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад +1

      The fact the term 'guerilla war' was not invented in the 1700s does not mean it cannot be used today to describe the use of this method of fighting. A 'skulking way of war' might be a term to use as well, as this style of war was not unique to the 'Indians' of the New World.

  • @outpostraven
    @outpostraven 2 года назад +6

    Great documentary

  • @Jubilo1
    @Jubilo1 Год назад +9

    Only the British ( Capt. Cook), could have achieved such a feat !

  • @brian-d-berentsen
    @brian-d-berentsen 4 месяца назад

    Bravo! Great rendition of an important piece of the history of the Americas.
    What would have been nice to see are the gardens and magnificent statue of Saint Joan of Arc, where the Plains of Abraham border the City of Québec.

  • @augustuseuropa410
    @augustuseuropa410 2 года назад +7

    Brilliant

  • @davidvaughn4406
    @davidvaughn4406 Год назад +6

    Music louder than narration.

  • @frederickmagill9454
    @frederickmagill9454 Год назад +6

    The British Empire - - - not the English Empire, who wrote the introductory speel?

  • @douglasdog1
    @douglasdog1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @AdrianArthurBray
    @AdrianArthurBray Год назад +1

    William Pitt the Older, not the Younger, was politician in charge of British efforts in the war.

  • @Jubilo1
    @Jubilo1 Год назад +8

    Wolfe gave them hot stuff !

  • @billythedog-309
    @billythedog-309 2 года назад +4

    Pitt the elder or Pitt the younger - a 50/50 choice which this documentary got wrong. lf only there were some history book the makers could have consulted.

  • @MHG571
    @MHG571 Год назад +3

    Well, a very fine vid nice. I love this time of period. And if you guys know that the British at the start of The French and Indian War were losing battles and sieges. The war that a young Virginian named George Washington and his militia, actions started and saw later British commander Major General Edward Braddock died in Monongahela in 1755 ambushed by the French and their Indians allies (Native Americans) and soldiers, such the "Braddocks massacre" and a lot of redcoats died that day and Washington was brave and lucky and managed to escape, at 1754 - 1755 campaign. Then the Siege of Fort William Henry in 1757 and the Massacre of the British soldiers' men women and children from the Indians allied to the French was another win of Moncalm's. Montcalm was in Ticonderoga in 1758 and his victory against all odds then the tide of the war changed and we have Wolfe at the siege of Louisbourg 1758 won and took the city and then the final battle at Quebec Montcalm's mistake to go and faced the British out in the battlefield and not to stay in the walls and the errors in the battlefield were a lot and that's all of the major battles of the war in America back then the British won the war the French lost the war. Some thoughts and info from my favorite period of wars and heroes and more again awesome vid!👍👍

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад +2

      The final battle was not at Quebec. It took another year with the fall of Montreal to finally subdue the French in New France.
      It is such an American myopic idea that "George Washington and his militia, actions started" the French and Indian/Seven Years War. It is odd as well, as it almost seems like this is stated with pride.
      Clearly there is little to no understanding of the interlude of détente that took place between the end of the War of the Austrian succession and the opening of the French and Indian War/Seven Years War. During this period there were episodes of open conflict and efforts at destabilisation between France and Britain. Washington's little fracas was just one of these.

    • @MHG571
      @MHG571 Год назад +1

      @@EdinburghFive Yeah you have a point I missed that about Montreal I just read in Wikipedia. All that I posted are from reading books and I have not read anything about Montreal before but yeah as you said it was the final battle at 1760 good point.

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад

      @@MHG571 A lot of the history books focus on Quebec and forget the rest.

  • @marijumanji
    @marijumanji 10 месяцев назад

    8:30 Sounds like he says William Pitt the Younger here... He means Elder, right? The Younger would've been 3 months old during the Battle of the Plains of Abraham.

  • @themightywookie351c3
    @themightywookie351c3 6 месяцев назад

    Where are the cannons? They had cannons.

  • @TheSlider535
    @TheSlider535 9 месяцев назад +4

    I being Scottish decent, would have stood with Montcalm, for what Wolf did at Culloden , to Hell with Butcher Cumberland !

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 8 месяцев назад

      You ridiculous wannabe victims of nothing invaded England just before that battle, you Scots slaughtered whole towns on the way to London until you realised the English were coming for a fight then ran back to Scotland, you got your butts kicked and it was justified. It was the Irish and Scottish who for hundreds of years used to invade England and slaughtered many innocent people and took thousands of slaves too but then the tables turned and you got a taste of your own medicine ( then you play the little victims) so don't give me the English are bad crap you ridiculous hypocrite.

  • @rpalmer274
    @rpalmer274 2 года назад +3

    I think this is Canadian made definitely not made in America and I'm Canadian

  • @gchambs
    @gchambs 6 месяцев назад

    Britain won North America at the naval battle of Quiberon Bay, from that point on France could no longer reinforce any of her overseas holdings

  • @bluetocop
    @bluetocop 11 месяцев назад

    very good....................i could have ancestors on both sides

  • @hippo762
    @hippo762 Год назад +3

    The Act of Union was in 1707, why does this narrator keep calling the United Kingdom "England"?

  • @darthroden
    @darthroden Год назад +3

    Did Wolfe commit war crimes?
    Well, I suppose it depends on your perspective. From mine all war is a crime, but that's only because I hold strong anti-war views.
    The burning of homes and farms, while giving explicit orders not to harm civilians, might seem like just a good strategy -- and it is in much the same way that the Indians scalping people as a terror tactic is.
    Consider that, back in the 1700s, people didn't just go to the store and get food the way we do today. People had to grow and store their food and the basic necessities of survival. Burning down someone's farm and homes, leaving them with nothing but the clothes on their backs (if that) is practically condemning people to slow starvation. The fact that it is mentioned that winter would be coming soon, and you can add exposure as another certain hardship.
    Is that a war crime? You tell me.

  • @QuietManUK
    @QuietManUK Год назад +9

    At 47 minutes, the British advance flying the later union flag, at this time the Irish state was not part of the union and the diagonal red strips were not part of the British flag.

    • @marcafterdark1003
      @marcafterdark1003 Год назад +2

      Irish Catholic fought with the French and Irish Protestant fought with the British

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад +1

      @@marcafterdark1003 This does not explain the wrong flag being used in the video reenactment.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@EdinburghFiveit wasn't wrong actually, please do your research properly.

  • @egonhaslebacher7082
    @egonhaslebacher7082 7 месяцев назад

    what is with the stupid music, one can hardly hear what is spoken.

  • @bertwormington133
    @bertwormington133 2 года назад +4

    A 30-minute battle that changed the course of history in North America. Unfortunately, the war for independence among individuals and countries rages today just check the latest news on January 6th, 2020 in Washington D.C.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 9 месяцев назад

      Dumb democrats and leftist woke types and the pathetic hypocrite race hustlers vs the sane Americans. My money is on the sane Americans who are waking up in huge numbers like in Europe too nowadays.

  • @user-jf9yh9bb3s
    @user-jf9yh9bb3s Месяц назад +1

    🇬🇧イギリス 杉本全充すぎもとまさみち 🇫🇷フランス 滝川雅美たきがわまさみ

  • @helloworldRR
    @helloworldRR 2 месяца назад

    This day will go dOwn in infamy. ..

  • @fload46d
    @fload46d Год назад +20

    Too bad entirely that the British won this war. France would have been a far better master for Canada and the native peoples. For the most part I think they understood this.

    • @frederickmagill9454
      @frederickmagill9454 Год назад +14

      Yes Joseph you are correct, Algeria has shown us that.

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад +3

      @@frederickmagill9454 Yes indeed, French administration of Algeria was a great model (sic) for the administration of colonies. Such a kind and loving imperialism.

    • @PeteCourtier
      @PeteCourtier Год назад +1

      @@EdinburghFivewell said.

    • @nativegerry335
      @nativegerry335 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@frederickmagill9454that was a different french regime. Algeria was under french Republic. New France was under the Kingdom of France. Actually if the French won the war. The american revolution would have never happened thus preventing the French revolution.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 9 месяцев назад

      Give me a break 😂😂😂, France is falling apart from immigration and the corruption of the EU which the rest of the world is laughing at. France voted for a globalist banker who destroyed France who are now the bank of Europe now Britian has left the unelected unaccountable greedy corrupt thieving traitorous EU for many reasons. Your comment is hilarious and desperate 😂😂😂 no wonder the British always kicked the french arses in battle alot more often than not. Enjoy your new movie Napoleon 😂😂😂 that fake history load of nonsense. 🇬🇧🇺🇲🇬🇧🇺🇲🇬🇧🇺🇲🇮🇱

  • @geraldmiller5260
    @geraldmiller5260 8 месяцев назад

    Why did the French not stay behind their walls? They had every advantage.

    • @bobvila1010
      @bobvila1010 19 часов назад

      There was no wall outside the city!

  • @Hellbillyhok
    @Hellbillyhok 8 дней назад

    I wish these foolish narrators or scriptwriters or whatever they call themselves would stop reffering to british redcoats as English,there were troops from all over the " British Isles" this is an insult to Scots,Irish & Welsh who were definitely not "English" , basic stuff guys ffs

  • @brandonmireles3249
    @brandonmireles3249 8 месяцев назад +1

    French being cowardly

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian 2 года назад +9

    I’m glad the British won.

    • @angusyates828
      @angusyates828 Год назад +8

      I'm not.

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian Год назад +5

      @@angusyates828 Too bad.

    • @peterchessell28
      @peterchessell28 Год назад +3

      @@angusyates828 Are you an apologist its the fashion now.?

    • @BlackFlameOfHatred
      @BlackFlameOfHatred Год назад +1

      Why ? U must be british then...

    • @BlackFlameOfHatred
      @BlackFlameOfHatred Год назад +7

      British : “You French fight for money, while we British fight for honor.”
      French: “Sir, a man fights for what he lacks the most.”

  • @marcafterdark1003
    @marcafterdark1003 3 года назад +9

    What a great movie and it validates my thoughts moncalm was a incompetent general moncalm had the biggest and best fort of all of America's and he fought outside its walls thats incompetent all he had to do was hold the British and wait for reinforcements a few hours away the French gave that win to the British on purpose

    • @BlackFlameOfHatred
      @BlackFlameOfHatred Год назад +1

      Also show how coward Wolf was

    • @user-us4fz1kv8i
      @user-us4fz1kv8i Год назад +1

      @@BlackFlameOfHatred Quite the opposite, Wolfe was clearly a competent general and strategist who outsmarted Montcalm, that is fact, not the fiction from your statement...Doh!

    • @BlackFlameOfHatred
      @BlackFlameOfHatred Год назад

      @@user-us4fz1kv8i sorry but 8.7 million person disagree with you !

    • @BlackFlameOfHatred
      @BlackFlameOfHatred Год назад

      @@user-us4fz1kv8i yeah he was all british are coward!

    • @artm1973
      @artm1973 Год назад +1

      Montcalm didn't lose on purpose, he made a bad decision by attacking and not waiting for reinforcements. If he had held his position and waited for Bougainville, Wolfe's position would have been untenable. Alas it was not to be.
      My ancestors (and sympathies) were all on the French side but I find it incredibly sad that the British graves are lost and under a road or parking lot. This dishonors both sides treating them like this.

  • @paulwusteman9963
    @paulwusteman9963 Год назад +3

    The sad impression you get from this is a sort of sulking resentment by many of the French that a force (administrative, navy, army, marines, etc) superior in each and every respect achieved its objective. Canadians can only be grateful that the British won. What would Canada be like if the French had won? As successful and attractive as it is today? (obviously, like all countries, with its own faults). Thankfully, there is no need to even consider the question.

    • @jean-louislalonde6070
      @jean-louislalonde6070 Год назад +4

      And with that kind of reasoning, the British can only be sorry that the Grande Armée was unable to cross the Channel and that the RAF won the battle of Britain, making it impossible for Hitler's army to do the same. What would Britain be like if the French or nazi Germany had won?

    • @EdinburghFive
      @EdinburghFive Год назад

      @@jean-louislalonde6070 Can you just imagine the Nazis hand over Quebec to the Vichy French to govern. I suspect the Quebecois would not have willing gone along with that.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@jean-louislalonde6070you still crying 😭😭😭 grow up crybaby 😂

    • @jeremiebernatchez5494
      @jeremiebernatchez5494 3 месяца назад

      Quebec would be free

  • @peterneijs387
    @peterneijs387 3 года назад +8

    God Bless Wolfe

  • @royalisteenjoyer2201
    @royalisteenjoyer2201 3 года назад +11

    wolfe was the biggest coward he was so scared of Montcalm, therefore, he burned villages killed innocent natives, children's and women. Le Marquis de Montcalm was a great general even with 10 times lesser soldiers than the Brits

    • @bensingleton2798
      @bensingleton2798 2 года назад +13

      Shhhh, go back to playing with your crayons 🖍

    • @fairuzskinanti8350
      @fairuzskinanti8350 2 года назад +3

      Appreciate his struggle, ok? I'm an Indonesian but i love Wolfe

    • @georgejcking
      @georgejcking 2 года назад +5

      What matters is....who won?

    • @matthewcarey3148
      @matthewcarey3148 2 года назад +7

      I don’t know a ton about this, but…Wolfe won and Montcalm lost. What else matters?

    • @mikeglazer6676
      @mikeglazer6676 Год назад

      The French and Natives had been burning, looting and killing at New England homes and settlements for decades.
      Learn history.

  • @britishpatriot7386
    @britishpatriot7386 9 месяцев назад

    Britian are just too good 👍 they were the most successful army in the world and throughout history, France comes second though imo and Russia too.

    • @DelapazTotong
      @DelapazTotong 7 месяцев назад +1

      Too bad the Americans screwed the Brits.Brits are bad in guerilla warfare.

  • @cardboardempire
    @cardboardempire 5 месяцев назад

    A whiff of grapeshot and 264 years of Quebec cope.

  • @user-us4fz1kv8i
    @user-us4fz1kv8i Год назад +3

    General Wolfe was clearly a great general and strategist, despite how his faults are emphasised here three fold. Also disappointing how the French graves have statues, grave stones, inscriptions etc plus a building holding Montcalm's supposed bones (now confirmed not his), but the British graves are under a roadway. This shows how the French Canadians have tried to erase the true happenings at Quebec...very sad !

    • @jean-louislalonde6070
      @jean-louislalonde6070 Год назад

      You don't honor the memory of a man who ordered the raping of women and burning of villages and whose conquest threatened your very own survival. Last time I was in London I didn't see any Adolf Hitler statue, and I am certain there are none either anywhere in the former Soviet Union.

    • @britishpatriot7386
      @britishpatriot7386 9 месяцев назад

      They are soft crybaby losers.

    • @jeremiebernatchez5494
      @jeremiebernatchez5494 3 месяца назад

      The signs of Quebecs loss have been everywhere and is everywhere, we do not hide the history of our country