This is the best C10 review on youtube. Clear visual and clear explanation! Thanks! Helps me make a decision between the C10 and the G15 pro. I would have loved to see you do the leg extension and the leg curl as well.
The 200-degree adjustable upright pulleys deliver a 2:1 cable pulley ratio with a 220 lb max. Connecting both upper pulleys gives a 1:1 ratio with a 220 lb max while using one changes it to 2:1 with a 110 lb max. For the lower pulleys, connecting one pulley gives a 1:1 ratio with a 220 lb max, and connecting both pulleys shifts it to 1:2 with a 440 lb max.
This is great. It is an evolution of Tytax's approach and the even lesser known Body Force. This could work great with the new Unitree Pump Max and a rack where you can rig up a foot plate.
I purchased the c10 and just set everything up. The weight covers do not have exercise charts. I dont need them, but it would be nice for my wife and daughter to glance at for reference. Was it supposed to come with those? Was that extra?
@@ashleytheamazing I emailed Forceusa regarding the exercise placards and they said they don't come with the unit. Probably need to change the review showing they don't come with it. I'm a little disappointed but oh well. I'm unsure why. Some videos online show them others don't. It seems we should be able to at least order them. Defintely not a deal breaker. I'm very happy with the machine.
Definitely one of the most versatile options on the market! Although, that hack squat + leg press plate looks pretty small, might not be large enough for some people, especially if you need/prefer a wider stance. Also, do you know what gauge steel, hole size, and spacing is on the front uprights? You mentioned it's 2" x 2" uprights, but I don't believe the other specs were stated. I feel like the upright sizing & holes is probably one of the slight downsides since it's not using the 3" x 3" with 1" or 5/8" holes sizing and 4-way holes that's becoming more the standard to have the widest selection of attachments available from many different places. For that reason, I'd probably still pick the MAXUM Fitness SX2 as it has similar functionality with the rack + smith + dual functional trainer combination AND it uses more standard 3" x 3" 11-gauge steel. It even includes the articulating functional trainer arms and leg press (via smith machine & removable foot plate - no special bench needed) while costing basically the same for the rack setup or less if you factor in the sliding bench price. But ultimately each has its pros and cons so it's a tough choice. Ashley you should definitely check out the SX2! There hasn't been much coverage on it and on paper it seems like one the best options out there so I'd love to see how it stacks up!
@@ashleytheamazing Understandable. Not sure how MAXUM handles things or if they do affiliate marketing or send out review units or anything, but would love to see some coverage of their stuff in general. But do you happen to have the specs for the uprights on the C10? Don't see them on Force USA's website and would really like to know what gauge steel, hole size, and spacing it uses!
@@scottskimtv I like them both but C10 offers an all in one for everything home gym with added perks like the increased range of degrees on the cables (functional trainer)over the ares as well as a sliding bench for more exercises. It also has a smith machine too and the Ares does not . I personally find smith machines a great added tool for training .
@@scottskimtv If you’re more into functional strength, “crossfit” I think ares is the way. If you are into strength, hypertrophy, and an all in one that will last for years throughout the lifes stages, C10. I LOVE it has a smith. I think a smith is a phenomenal addition for home gym training. It offers sooo many advantages in training.
@@ashleytheamazingthis is a great response. I would agree as well. The c10 offers sooo much more than an Ares. But, if you just want the cables for a few supplemental exercises and mainly do barbell movements than the ares is the way to go. Just remember, the only thing the C10 doesn’t do great is barbell squatting as it doesn’t have a full rack for safety. Short of this, it does everything else you need even standard barbell bench press. I would argue that a smith machine incline press is superior to a barbell incline press but it’s a matter of preference. Nice review!
@@terryreeves2302 This is what I was told by Force USA: “We use a range of steel thicknesses, from 6 to 14 gauge, in strategic areas of the design. The uprights themselves are 14-gauge steel with 5/8” holes and 2” spacing, but our engineers incorporate heavier-gauge steel in key areas like supports and braces. This allows us to deliver strength and performance comparable to 11-gauge racks, while keeping costs down and making the unit easier and more cost effective to ship.”
@@Hail_Chris.27 Correct. I contacted Force USA and they got back to me today, and said “The current C10 has 3mm ABS nylon pulleys, the exact same materials used in commercial gym .” and are looking into aluminum in the future.
@@ashleytheamazing thank you for the reply! that would certainly be a game changer for lots of people. For me personally, nylon pulleys don't bothered me at all, as long as the movement is smooth like it should be. May I ask you how about the fluidity of the pulleys on that C10? Cause I'm seriously considering it for my new house, But I've already read someone's opinion that it's not as smooth as the G15 or G20, and there's also a short video here on YT in which the movement of the pulleys is extremely noisy compared to what it should be for a machine with weight stack, which leads me to believe that the opinion I read has a point. I can't understand that in your review because of the music.
@@Hail_Chris.27 If you give em an email, I can send you some clips of me using the c10 without the music . I thought it was smooth and had no noise issues.
This is the best C10 review on youtube. Clear visual and clear explanation! Thanks! Helps me make a decision between the C10 and the G15 pro. I would have loved to see you do the leg extension and the leg curl as well.
@@soulsearch1234 thank you for watching!! Next time I will have to add leg extensions and leg curl in. Good suggestion
THANK U for the great review @ashleytheamazing. Bought it, Love it!
@@BRoss-vy8rf yay!!! Enjoy !!
Curious was your pulley system sticky after assembly? Got my first workout on it and pulley, specifically the dual just aren't smooth at all.
@ No, they were not sticky. Super smooth
Awesome video Ashley!
@@56icefire Thank you for the positive feedback
the bottom pulleys are actually 1:1 each, and 1:2 when combined. So you can get a combined 440 pounds.
@@dgfreshx yes I misspoke !! You are correct. thank you for stating that.
The 200-degree adjustable upright pulleys deliver a 2:1 cable pulley ratio with a 220 lb max. Connecting both upper pulleys gives a 1:1 ratio with a 220 lb max while using one changes it to 2:1 with a 110 lb max. For the lower pulleys, connecting one pulley gives a 1:1 ratio with a 220 lb max, and connecting both pulleys shifts it to 1:2 with a 440 lb max.
This is great. It is an evolution of Tytax's approach and the even lesser known Body Force. This could work great with the new Unitree Pump Max and a rack where you can rig up a foot plate.
I just started selling this piece so thanks for the training session Ashley
@@DT-kl7uf You are welcome!
This review was fantastic. Thanks.
I wonder if you could use the bottom sliding bench bar, with an inclined seat along with the bottom pulleys to create a chest supported row?
@@dgfreshx that might work ..! that’s a great idea
great review
@@TheXILLR thank you for watching and commenting!
Want to see other companies copy that functional swivel arm. Really good concept for mini-Freemotion style arms
@@BrandonSchwartz1 It’s so nice to have such a large degree of motion !
GetRXD just came out with one as well
@@itsjrbro Oh really?? what is it called? I need to look this up
I purchased the c10 and just set everything up. The weight covers do not have exercise charts. I dont need them, but it would be nice for my wife and daughter to glance at for reference. Was it supposed to come with those? Was that extra?
@@kenconlon1812 I thought they came with it. But Maybe I’m wrong .
@@kenconlon1812 I would reach out to force usa (email?) and ask.
@@ashleytheamazing I emailed Forceusa regarding the exercise placards and they said they don't come with the unit. Probably need to change the review showing they don't come with it. I'm a little disappointed but oh well. I'm unsure why. Some videos online show them others don't. It seems we should be able to at least order them. Defintely not a deal breaker. I'm very happy with the machine.
@@kenconlon1812 Oh good to know! thanks for informing me
Definitely one of the most versatile options on the market! Although, that hack squat + leg press plate looks pretty small, might not be large enough for some people, especially if you need/prefer a wider stance.
Also, do you know what gauge steel, hole size, and spacing is on the front uprights? You mentioned it's 2" x 2" uprights, but I don't believe the other specs were stated.
I feel like the upright sizing & holes is probably one of the slight downsides since it's not using the 3" x 3" with 1" or 5/8" holes sizing and 4-way holes that's becoming more the standard to have the widest selection of attachments available from many different places.
For that reason, I'd probably still pick the MAXUM Fitness SX2 as it has similar functionality with the rack + smith + dual functional trainer combination AND it uses more standard 3" x 3" 11-gauge steel. It even includes the articulating functional trainer arms and leg press (via smith machine & removable foot plate - no special bench needed) while costing basically the same for the rack setup or less if you factor in the sliding bench price.
But ultimately each has its pros and cons so it's a tough choice.
Ashley you should definitely check out the SX2! There hasn't been much coverage on it and on paper it seems like one the best options out there so I'd love to see how it stacks up!
@@killerkhatiby009 I would love to cover that . I go to companies where I am
invited or easy to drive to.
@@killerkhatiby009 and thank you for your comment and thoughts!
@@ashleytheamazing Understandable. Not sure how MAXUM handles things or if they do affiliate marketing or send out review units or anything, but would love to see some coverage of their stuff in general.
But do you happen to have the specs for the uprights on the C10? Don't see them on Force USA's website and would really like to know what gauge steel, hole size, and spacing it uses!
@@killerkhatiby009 No, I didnt see them on the website either. I looked at a couple websites on the C10.
@@killerkhatiby009 PS. I’ll find out!
Thank you for the thorough review. Do you prefer Aries 2 or C10?
@@scottskimtv I like them both but C10 offers an all in one for everything home gym with added perks like the increased range of degrees on the cables (functional trainer)over the ares as well as a sliding bench for more exercises. It also has a smith machine too and the Ares does not . I personally find smith machines a great added tool for training .
I ended selecting the Ares because my ceiling was only 83 inches. The C10 is 87 inches and a tiny bit too tall 😢
In the same boat , not sure should I go with Aries 2 or this c10 , I like the c10 has the smith … hard decision
@@scottskimtv If you’re more into functional strength, “crossfit” I think ares is the way. If you are into strength, hypertrophy, and an all in one that will last for years throughout the lifes stages, C10. I LOVE it has a smith. I think a smith is a phenomenal addition for home gym training. It offers sooo many advantages in training.
@@ashleytheamazingthis is a great response. I would agree as well. The c10 offers sooo much more than an Ares. But, if you just want the cables for a few supplemental exercises and mainly do barbell movements than the ares is the way to go. Just remember, the only thing the C10 doesn’t do great is barbell squatting as it doesn’t have a full rack for safety. Short of this, it does everything else you need even standard barbell bench press. I would argue that a smith machine incline press is superior to a barbell incline press but it’s a matter of preference. Nice review!
What gauge steel, what size holes, what size frame?
@@terryreeves2302 This is what I was told by Force USA: “We use a range of steel thicknesses, from 6 to 14 gauge, in strategic areas of the design.
The uprights themselves are 14-gauge steel with 5/8” holes and 2” spacing, but our engineers incorporate heavier-gauge steel in key areas like supports and braces.
This allows us to deliver strength and performance comparable to 11-gauge racks, while keeping costs down and making the unit easier and more cost effective to ship.”
Will rhere be a c10 pro?
@@sphan6949 there is a c10 pro
Just preordered one but the thing I can’t tell if the pullies are aluminum or not. It doesn’t look like it is, could you help answer??
@@andrewfranzen6474 did you use my code to save $?? I will find out about that pulleys .
None of the force usa machines have aluminium pulleys.
@@Hail_Chris.27 Correct. I contacted Force USA and they got back to me today, and said “The current C10 has 3mm ABS nylon pulleys, the exact same materials used in commercial gym .” and are looking into aluminum in the future.
@@ashleytheamazing thank you for the reply!
that would certainly be a game changer for lots of people. For me personally, nylon pulleys don't bothered me at all, as long as the movement is smooth like it should be.
May I ask you how about the fluidity of the pulleys on that C10? Cause I'm seriously considering it for my new house, But I've already read someone's opinion that it's not as smooth as the G15 or G20, and there's also a short video here on YT in which the movement of the pulleys is extremely noisy compared to what it should be for a machine with weight stack, which leads me to believe that the opinion I read has a point.
I can't understand that in your review because of the music.
@@Hail_Chris.27 If you give em an email, I can send you some clips of me using the c10 without the music . I thought it was smooth and had no noise issues.
So, basically the bench from a Bowflex PR1000 ..