Hi. I wanted to say thank you for the help, training, making me feel welcome, and making the Arctic trip a reality for me! I appreciate the time you took, the helpful suggestions, and the camaraderie. Thank you!
I don't like that the Antarctic workshop page doesn't have any information about price. I mean, don't get me wrong, I DEFINITELY can't afford it, but I wanna know HOW poor I am compared to the trip
You just have to press the 'register here' link and all the prices are on that page - to save you two clicks: "Balcony Stateroom Category C from $14,299 pp (USD) twin share*!" He's not trying to hide it.
Prices start at around 1 healthy kidney 👍🏻 In all seriousness it depends on the cabin you pick etc, but prices start at around $14k. So yes, very expensive and typically a once in a lifetime kind of thing.
My first sling was a WANDRD Rogue 6L and I'm absolutely sold on it. Sturdy, weatherproof and expandable for a tripod, jacket or waterbottle. I even started using it as my go-to bag without a camera if I don't have to carry a laptop. Plus I look like a cool hipster.
Agreed. I have it since day one, fantastic quality and versatility. Not cheap but easily one of the best purchases ever, with or without photography gear.
I've been using a Wotancraft for over a year now. I've had a Peak Design, LowePro, Bellroy and many other camera bags and the Wotancraft simply crushes them. It's more durable, velcro dividers let me configure the way I like, the magnetic clasp is a joy and its price makes it an incredible value.
Totally agree. It’s a brilliant bag. Carry’s small tripod, small water bottle, and coat. I also have the other strap which is brilliant when as it stops the bag from moving when you bend over for macro.
I switched to a Peak Design 6ltr sling in January and haven’t looked back. It was the only camera bag I took for a three week trip to Australia. It comfortably held a Sony A1, 20-70f4, 70-200f4, 2x teleconverter, two spare batteries and some cleaning cloths. I also strapped a Peak Design travel tripod to the bottom. It’s changed my whole photography life. Oh and it’s black
I love the Wotancraft Pilot 7L for it's functionality and style. Doesn't look like a "techie" bag. I've been using the Billingham Hadley Pro Small for the past few months and it's probably my favorite camera sling. Great size, style, and functionality...and the front pockets have actual usable depth to them, unlike a lot of other camera slings.
I found a Tenba in a local camera shop here in town, it was on sale for $20 and by far is the most well-thought out product I own in any category. It's the old version of the Tenba DNA messenger bag, I imagine the closest version is the DNA 9. It's so clever.
I’m now on my fourth Peak Design sling and have loved all of them. The 6L is for day shoots and holds everything I need. I Don’t carry a tripod because I also dislike and rarely use them, but I can strap my coat to the bottom if I need to. I also have a 10L sling which is my airplane bag for longer trips. It will hold my Fuji XT5 along with a couple of zooms, one or two small primes, and lots of assorted pieces. Both are far more comfortable than the backpacks and messenger-style bags I’ve had over the years. And, like James, I also appreciate that the smaller size forces me to make choices in the gear I take.
Thanks for a good and concise comparison. I have owned a PD 3l sling for over a year now and I love it. Most of the time my camera is out and I use the bag for other stuff or an extra lens. It does have its limits due to size and was looking around for something slightly bigger. My main criteria was to hold a camera (maybe a spare lens), bits and bobs and most importantly a water bottle. That turned out to be a challenge, I only found one that had a dedicated water bottle slot: the Wander Rogue 6l. Looks like a good bag all in all but I am a woman with a small frame and the bag is very bulky. Ended up ordering another PD in 6l. I can actually fit a 21cm tall water bottle standing up in the bag and not worry about it spilling. Works well and with the camera out of the bag I still have space for an extra lens, and a light jacket.
I became a big fan of the Billingham sling bags. Yes they have a very distinctive look - either you like it or not. And they are absurdly expansive. But I have tried 3 of the bags on your list and still find the Billingham bags to be the most practical and also most comfortable for me.
I got a Retrospective 5 v2.0 myself. Green. And I have decorated it using textile markers with flowers and rainbows and stuff. So hopefully most people won't know it is a camera bag but will think I am a hippie or something. Much safer for my camera gear I'm thinking. I fit one camera and two lenses plus some odds and ends like batteries and lens brushes and the occational map. Have used it for over 5 years and will probably never get another bag.
Got a Retro 5 too and using for for the last 1,5 Years. I like the expandable outside pocket (drinking bottle, extra Tele, Umbrella etc..) It comes with a Raincover, but you rarely need it, because it withstand rain without it very reasonably. I like the Size, but it could be a little too small, depending on the Body/Lensens you are using. My Fuji Gear fits perfect.
Just one thought on the compagnon, if you have the top section full, the zip on the backside does make more sense as the bulk will open away instead of into the chest. If you had the zip on the front, you wouldn't be able to open the lid.
Once again, James comes out with a video that is appropriate for the dilemma I have in my life right now. My zipper broke one one of my camera bags and I decided to look into getting a sling bag on top of getting a full camera bag. Thanks for the recommendations and a glimpse into my future if I keep going down this road🤣🤣🫠
I actually love my 10L peak design sling bag, because it is my daily bag for work and I love to take my camera everywhere, even for work. And there is still room for more without being a large backpack
I must have bought a dozen different type camera bags. Now I use a waterproof roll top ruck sack with a small padded camera case to hold my M43 camera and 4 filters. I carry additional lenses in padded neoprene lens pouches and stuff my travel tripod down one side. The pouches are all lens labeled so easy to pull out. Most convenient system I have tried.
I have the Temba DNA 11. They have smaller versions I believe a nine and a six along with bigger versions 13 and 16. The design is so useful I’m very happy with them. They have a removable insert which makes them very versatile.
I got the Peter McKinnon/Nomatic sling earlier this year. I HATED it at first, but quickly realized it was because I was trying to cram my backpack into it. Once I stopped doing that I fell in love. It's also taught me that I can accomplish 90% of my photography needs with one lens and a filter or two.
One thing I don’t like about Peak Design bags is the outer fabric used. While good for all weather conditions and sturdy, I noticed they caused my t-shirts/cotton based garments to bobble quite badly.
My perfect bags for my Canon VT and VT Deluxe rangefinder cameras are the Domke F803 Ruggedwear bags. Perfection. For my Nikon F and Nikomat FTN I enjoy two leather Ona Prince Street bags. Ive been photographing for over 50 years and have owned countless bags. These are my favorites.
For 45 years Camera bags have been trouble makers for me, I have owned and tried MANY bags ! Right NOW there are not ANY bag, shoulder/sling bag or backpack of all the hundreds of bags on the markets that I want ! I use a very old Messenger slim shoulder/sling bag from Lowepro and an old Messenger sling bag from Crumpler. I want a simple, rugged bag with a lit that cover the inside well, I do not want a lot of zippers or a lot of rooms that I cannot use, the inside should be very easy to use with excellent dividers that can be placed anywhere. My dream bag it a bag where the lid opens away from the body and at the same time when the lid is open, it will form a secure shelf, so it is easy to place my camera, lens, battery, memory card or what ever. I saw a bag like this some years ago, but I forgot the name of the brand and I cannot find it again. For a backpack I use a old Lowepro.
I still like my "Lowepro slingshot 100AW" sling bag because It comes with an extra strap so it can be balanced on the center of my back, when hiking or biking. I have to be careful not to overload it though. Thanks.
My Domke F2 has all that I need and the look is great as it can be. I would argue that there is not a more beautiful option than the Domke F2, dirty, some blood, well aged wachsed canvas. However. I find myself using the Peak Design sling every single day. It is just...a well designed bag that somehow makes it super easy to carry stuff, is durable and never ever gives me the feeling that something from the bag is in the way.
James always goes hard with the camera bags. Great photography and useful tips in each video, these videos are a valuable resource for photography lovers.
I kind of love my Thinktank Retrospective 5 V2.0, unless it rains. I like it, because it does not screem "camera gear inside" but the fabrik gets soaking wet quickly. Yes, it comes with a rain cover, which I had to use more often than with other bags. But I still like it a lot.
i've literally packed the kitchen sink into my peak design 10L - body + 70-200 + 18-35 + 85mm - capture clip on on side, water bottle holder on the other - i firmly support all these choices- slings are fantastic to have
I have a Domke F-5XB and I love it, but it doesn't come with padded sides, which was pretty lame. Luckily I had some leftover ones from a different bag.
With the changing photo market it must be hard to come up with interesting things that grabs peoples attention. A video on how the landscape is changing and how that impacts vloggers such as yourself would be interesting to me at least.
I have the Wotan craft 7L and it’s phenomenal! It is everything I could want and need in a bag. It even can fit (barely) a 12.9in iPad. If I need to I slide a jacket into the front pass-through. It’s my daily driver. Highly highly recommend to everyone.
I have about 6 or 7 slings of varrying sizes but simply cannot get away from the WANDRD 7 liter sling. While having a pretty modest main pouch the main reason I keep coming back to it for everyday carry is because of the level of comfort and the organization. I put EVERYTHING in my bag because i dont like carrying things in my pockets. Something like the bellroy sling is great if you have alot of stuff and dont mind just dumping it into the main pouch (I used it like this in Japan, it expands ALOT, dont let the size fool you), but when you inevitably need to pull something out of that bag, it can very quickly turn into a game of pulling everything out until you find what you need. Not to mention the bag swings very freely away from your body especially when its at or above full capacity, my unit in particular does not retain the shoulder strap length and needs to be constantly readjusted. The WANDRD on the other hand has so many compartments that I can very easily separate things I need quick access to like my wallet and keys while still being able to fit a decent amount of gear. Because of the design it also sucks the bag rather flat to your body in a good way, strap length retention is very good even when fully packed and padding is excellent for all day carry. Another excellent feature is that it can be used one handed almost exclusively, with handles and straps strategically placed very conveniently so it can be handled from any position on your body. It does have tripod straps if you want or need to use them, these can also be used to quickly store jackets too by just rolling them up and strapping them down. The ONLY thing it lacks is a luggage passthrough but it is frankly so comfortable to wear that its the last thing on my mind.
When I started doing photography there were no photography backpacks or sling bags. Just shoulder bags. I carried those for years. But, when backpacks and slings came along, I tried them. I tried enough to fill two cabinets in my house. What do I use today? Tenba messenger bags.
I try to stuff a camera body, SD cards, spare battery, and as many lenses as I can in a peak design 3L sling…it’s a game I like to play especially when I rent new lenses for the first time when going on a trip.
Mine is Ulanzi 6L, it has everything I need and the design is also very cool so I can style it easily, attach x-10 + 70-300mm, + 33mm f1.4, and 16mm f2.8/ 14mm/ 10- 24mm (still haven't decided which lens to buy but I used a vintage lens with the same diameter to try and it worked) I bought and sold my top design 3l 6l, thinktank restrospective 7M. *I used 2 divider from my old camera bag* this is the only bag that can fit 3 lens and a camera and can still make me feel comfortable, the others just too big, and too weird on me (normal Asian guys, 5ft6)
After owning a lot of sling-bags I got stuck to my Bellroy sling-bag. It doesn't look like a tech bag, has a clever and quick adjustment of its strap. Also there are two handy pockets on each side...
I like my PD 10L sling. I can fit my 2 lens travel combos. I take my Sony a7iii and two lenses. For family/tourist stuff I take the Tamron 28-200 and the Tamron 17-28. For wildlife/sports I use the 28-200 and my Tamron 150-500. I can fit some filters and still have room for other stuff. You are correct that a small sling forces you to make choices.
So, how does it work? Do you get up in the morning look at all the bags, decide which One to use for the day and then move your gear into that? Or do you maybe have a favourite you stick to over a period of time?
Great video James! I have the 10lt Peek Design, and so far it’s been the best one I’ve ever had a chance to use! I like how compact it is compared to other bags carring the same amount of gear in the past, but I have only one thing that I didn’t like about it: The strap, although it has some threads at the end to make it thicker and prevent it from slipping out if it reaches the edge, it’s not thick enough, and throughout the past couple of years that I had it, it slipped twice and my bag was dropped to the ground! I was really not happy about it as you can imagine. I sawed on top of the threds at the edge with a thicker thread, and the problem was solved, but this was the weakest link of that bag. Before I did that, I had to always be aware that the straps aren’t slipping and reaching the edges.
I think James may change his mind about the Mckinnon bag after more use. The clamshell opening looks great until you try and put items inside it. It only takes very thin items, try putting even slightly thicker items in like filters and the bag will not shut properly...a hopeless design error. Also, due to the way the top opens and curves sharply at the ends, the end compartments are very hard to get items in and out of the bag and I found it impossible to get a small Fuji XT into the end spaces - another design error. I sent mine bag to Amazon as it was awful.
I just spent two weeks in London with the Wandrd Rouge 6 liter. It has a water bottle pouch on the bottom and you can strap a jacket to the underside of the bag.
I like my 8L Hex Ranger bag, been using it about 9 months now. It's less than half the price of most of the bags featured in this video and has a very basic elongated design that makes it easy to spin around, open, and swap lenses on the fly without worrying about accidentally dumping everything on the ground. My two complaints that keep it from being perfect: 1. would be nice to have a crossbody strap to save by back a bit on longer walks, 2. the zippers and zipper tabs are a little loud if you're trying not to upset wildlife. The tabs can be remedied with paracord easily enough, but not so much the former.
You should take a look at the DB Journey Ramverk Pro Sling Bag plus camera insert. Hated sling bags until i took a chance on it. Best feature is the ability to thread a waist strap/belt to it, makes the bag much more secure when hiking up mountains. I carry a Hasselblad 500cm with 50mm lens attached in mine, as well as a 150mm.
I settled on a small backpack and a small shoulder bag. Both by thinktank. The backpack is the backlight sprint and the shoulder bag is the mirrorless mover 20 v2. Selling my bellroy 10l venture sling. It’s too heavy if you fill it up and it’s too big if you only want to carry a small amount of kit.
I remember that transition from bikes and backpacks slogging up and down the peaks to the dapper grey sling bag and grey jacket. I still haven't quite recovered.
Bungie cord or paracord your jacket to the tripod section of your bags. Keeps everything small and lets you have a rain jacket or light jacket for fall
The nomatic bag also feels great slung around the front when you are wearing a backpack. For me, I think they could have widened the handle on the backside to double as the luggage passthrough and used that whole cartoon skull panel as another pocket.
that is how i came across your channel years and years ago, i was looking for the perfect camera bag...you were back then complaining about your camera bag addiction hahaha....love the consistency man... and being 46 i m now looking for a sling bag...again perfect timing
I’d recommend taking a knife to one of the inserts in the Belroy sling. It became so much more useful and it now fits an iPad Pro 11inch. Which is kinda defeats the point of being limited to what you can carry ahaha
Love my Peak Design 6L, and also a big fan of the WANDRD Rogue 6L in this weight class as well, mostly because it has a stabilizing strap for biking, and an expandable pocket for a small laptop if needed too.
Last week, I tested strapping my tripod (Gitzo GT1555T + ballhead) to my Peak Design 6L sling. I was pleasantly surprised at little I noticed the extra weight. The bag still sat well on the small of my back and didn't impact bag use at all. Your mileage may vary, of course 🙃
I think, if they change the zipper on the 4th bag, you can't open it when you have stuff in the expanded storage. It has to move somewhere when you open it up, and it can't move through your body. It can however move away from your body.
I've had 4 or 5 different slings and the one I've stuck with is the Nomatic/McKinnon as well. Do wish it was a tiny bit bigger and slightly better balanced (tips itself over when not on-body), but otherwise it's great.
I recently was in the market for a sling bag, but found a lot were either too small or silly money. Eventually I decided on a K&F alpha 10l sling and it's been absolutely superb. I do like the look of that McKinnon one, but can't justify that price tag 😅
The Wotancraft is really great. The additional pouches can be used as stand-alone slings, they deliver straps for them as well. I use this when I just carry my RX100.
I like my Wandrd Rogue Sling 6l very much. It was a decision between that and the Peak Design bag but I found the small zipper compartment in the front of the Peak Design bag very infuriating, it doesn't open widely enough to even get my cell phone in and out comfortably... And I don't have a large phone. The Wandrd bag also has the option of attaching a tripod or water bottle PLUS a jacket. And the expandable laptop sleeve in the back can also be used as an extra compartment for other stuff when not carrying a laptop. Very versatile all in all 😊
First came across Popsys when I stumbled across his super scientific cheap vs expensive camera bag video in the back garden, as I had just bought my first dslr. Glad to see things don't change that much.
The best camera bag I use is a Tesco shopping bag with a padded camera insert . It’s cheap, water proof, breathable , light weight, inconspicuous , easy to replace.
I have the Peak Design 6L stuffed with a GX85 and three lenses, plus a 500ml water bottle that's a bit wider and thus shorter than most, because I like to stay hydrated and live dangerously, I guess. The side opening holder flappy bits are used as battery and other thin-longish-bits storage. I find the tabletflap in the back of the bag a bit useless because as soon as you got stuff in the bag it's practically unreachable to me without unloading the bag. The front zipper pocket is also very tight, especially when you have to fish something out again, so I barely ever use it. I like that I can leave the bag open without worrying about stuff falling out of it unless I'm a massive doofus and turn it over. Otherwise solid bag, and I like the firmness.
Before you advocate any genre of camera bag, you might ponder what kit, for which type of photography, it's actually capable of accomodating. My mainstream photography is twofold ; surfing & fast-action generally, and wildlife. Both of these activities demand the use of long focal lengths so, as well as generic landscape lenses, I generally have to carry a 150-600mm (preferably with body attached for rapid deployment). Try getting that in a sling bag.
Billingham has a stranglehold on my wallet. I have 5 different billingham bags (4 camera bags 1 weekender bag). I love the waterproofing and ease of opening plus they’re so classy looking
FYI fly fishing brands like Simms, Orvis and Fishpond all have waterproof sling packs. Of course they won't be compartmentalized the same way a camera bag would be but if you need durable and waterproof, they're worth a look.
Facts! Shimoda bags are SO good. Got the Action X30 and Urban Explore 25 and they are both so well built and so comfortable to use. Would buy their sling/shoulder camera bag in a heartbeat.
Wotancraft FTW! I was recommended it by a friend and couldn’t be happier… but getting one in the uk can be spendy. Personally I pronounce it wo-(like low)-tun-craft, but I suspect it’s a moveable feast.
I've used the 3L Peak Design sling the past few years. First with an X-T3 and now with a Nikon Zf. With the latter I can get the Zf with mounted 40mm plus the 28mm or visa versa or a mounted 24-120mm only. Just the single 40mm only leaves a glasses/sun glasses space. My only real complain is that the front zip box is all but useless as it is so tight.
I am very happy with my two Think Tank Bags which are the smaller Retrospective 5 V2.0 and slightly larger Retrospective 7 V2.0. They have nice top loading zipper closures with velcro flap should you wish not to zip. Interchangeable interior dividers. Many front pockets with specific purposeful designs such as card holder. They also have a rain cover. The 5 is a good walk through town bag. I use it for a body with lens and two additional lenses. It can hold a fourth lens external or a water bottle. The 7 is the same design but larger for more junk. I still use it for three + four lenses (althought larger zooms). It is nice for woodland hikes. I have not found a good solution for attaching a tripod to either bag. However, I seldom use a tripod. I have a Lowepro sling and a Domke bag. They see little use.
Hey James - also highly recommend the Think Tank Retrospective 7 V2! I actually revove the dividers and use various inserts depending on my camera setup which I can then easily transfer to another bag ie backpack.
I've been super happy with my Wotancraft 7l bag. Dragged it around Spain and Portugal, shot weddings with it, take it on photo walks all the time. I like that it carries water bottles which is essential for travel really. Has great pockets including a sneakier overs that are great for stashing passport, wallet, etc. Also love the look of it, sort of a sweet spot between tech and fashion with almost a military nod. Thinking I might get the 3l for simple one lens photo walks around town.
I have 3 of these 5 bags, and there's something else worth mentioning about the Bellroy. It isn't 10 liters. They call it a 10 liter bag, but *by their own website's internal measurements* it is only a 7 liter bag. It's such a silly thing for them to be inaccurate about, but there it is. It's otherwise a great bag, but I wouldn't have bought it if I knew they were lying about the storage volume. So, if the size matters to you, buyer beware!
I've got the Peak Design 10L sling that I bought a wild after seeing you talk about yours when you did hot first video using it, I also bought the 13L messenger bag which has the same clasp closure as the everyday bag v2 30L that I also hedge.
lol I "lost" an extra OEM camera battery in the Peak Design bag, there's a zippered pouch on the inside of main opening, placed it in the outside most slot and forgot it was there. Went nuts looking for it, in my other bags, yes I too have a bag collection, and storage cubes.
Peak design FTW , good for combining cycling and photography at the same time . Would love an xpac bag that combines both biking and photography needs like me
Be careful with the peak design sling, it wore a hole in my rab puffer jacket, right on my back where it sat, looked like the friction off the material the bag is made from rubbed the material of my coat and looked like it had melted the fabric 😳, got the gomatic sling instead and I’m very happy with it, bit more versatile as well, front pocket on the peak is an absolute waste of time.
James, we're photography gear nerds: of COURSE we enjoy hearing your thoughts on slings! 😅 Your video about the PD 6-litre Every Day Sling got me into the sling habit, away from the bring-everything-backpack groove, and my back thanks you.
Hi James. Thanks for the video. The most important feature of a sling, for me, is zip towards the body. I do street photography and zip towards helps prevent people helping themselves to your gear. Im not sure any of those in the video would work in my environment 😂
Nobody would ever see it, it's against your body. what in the bloody hipster is that excuse? just get it if you want to, i got it and the problem with is that you can't really pack a bit bulky stuff like wallet(big one), powerbank(slim) in the front tray without facing problems to close it properly! that's it, other than that it is by far the most smart design for a camera bag ever.
The problem I am seeing here, is that these are for the camera kit only, with a convienent car, hotel room or cabin to hand in which to deposit non-camera items. For me a couple of days away also includes carrying the clothes, chargers/USB stuff, iPad/Laptop and other gubbins, along with the camera and a couple of lenses. I normally use a small (ish) 30L rucksack with three compatments, and the faff begings when finding the lens I want to swap to, which somehow, is never in the part I thought I'd put it in, and is eventually found wrapped in yeterdays t-shirt and I never did get *that* shot of the Herring Gull when in Sunderland last week.
Would like the Wotancraft. I have the Peak Design 3L and 6L. Great bags. But the zipper... Even if the opening on the PD is great and wide, I have managed to scratch both my Leica M10 and SL2-S after pulling them in an out from the bag so many times. I really try not to hit the zipper. But I sometimes fail. So no zippers on my next bag...
I have two camera sling bags and one camera backpack, and I'm still unhappy :'D I really need clever supply co to make a 9L quicklike, because the 6L doesn't fit my Zf with my iPad without feeling like it's going to crack the screen. The wandrd 9L is as close as I've gotten to the perfect bag, but it's not my favorite aesthetic. I've also considered the Wotancraft Lightning Rider, but haven't picked it up yet.
I really love your taste and style always so chic. My faves would be the kislux leather backpack and the Swarovski pave diamond ring so gorg. Thank you for your recommendations.
Hi. I wanted to say thank you for the help, training, making me feel welcome, and making the Arctic trip a reality for me! I appreciate the time you took, the helpful suggestions, and the camaraderie.
Thank you!
200! that is insane!
200 is absolute insane😵
I don't like that the Antarctic workshop page doesn't have any information about price. I mean, don't get me wrong, I DEFINITELY can't afford it, but I wanna know HOW poor I am compared to the trip
Thought it was around £10.000
@@ekevanderzee9538it depends.on the room you book. Past trips ranged from £10,000 to around £30,000 per person with shared rooms.
You just have to press the 'register here' link and all the prices are on that page - to save you two clicks: "Balcony Stateroom Category C from $14,299 pp (USD) twin share*!"
He's not trying to hide it.
@@ekevanderzee9538 Completely missed read that then, thought you had put £10.00
Prices start at around 1 healthy kidney 👍🏻
In all seriousness it depends on the cabin you pick etc, but prices start at around $14k. So yes, very expensive and typically a once in a lifetime kind of thing.
My first sling was a WANDRD Rogue 6L and I'm absolutely sold on it. Sturdy, weatherproof and expandable for a tripod, jacket or waterbottle. I even started using it as my go-to bag without a camera if I don't have to carry a laptop.
Plus I look like a cool hipster.
I have their 9L with laptop Sleeve
Agreed. I have it since day one, fantastic quality and versatility. Not cheap but easily one of the best purchases ever, with or without photography gear.
I've been using a Wotancraft for over a year now. I've had a Peak Design, LowePro, Bellroy and many other camera bags and the Wotancraft simply crushes them. It's more durable, velcro dividers let me configure the way I like, the magnetic clasp is a joy and its price makes it an incredible value.
Totally agree. It’s a brilliant bag. Carry’s small tripod, small water bottle, and coat. I also have the other strap which is brilliant when as it stops the bag from moving when you bend over for macro.
Amy recommendations on the size? For example if I just wanted to carry a compact full frame camera (Nikon zf) and a lens?
@@larsingrainthe 7litre should be fine. I carry a Panasonic G9ii with lens attached and another lens
Could also put lens in the drink pockets if needed.
+1 I carry the 7L every day
I switched to a Peak Design 6ltr sling in January and haven’t looked back. It was the only camera bag I took for a three week trip to Australia. It comfortably held a Sony A1, 20-70f4, 70-200f4, 2x teleconverter, two spare batteries and some cleaning cloths. I also strapped a Peak Design travel tripod to the bottom. It’s changed my whole photography life. Oh and it’s black
I love the Wotancraft Pilot 7L for it's functionality and style. Doesn't look like a "techie" bag. I've been using the Billingham Hadley Pro Small for the past few months and it's probably my favorite camera sling. Great size, style, and functionality...and the front pockets have actual usable depth to them, unlike a lot of other camera slings.
I found a Tenba in a local camera shop here in town, it was on sale for $20 and by far is the most well-thought out product I own in any category. It's the old version of the Tenba DNA messenger bag, I imagine the closest version is the DNA 9. It's so clever.
I’m now on my fourth Peak Design sling and have loved all of them. The 6L is for day shoots and holds everything I need. I Don’t carry a tripod because I also dislike and rarely use them, but I can strap my coat to the bottom if I need to.
I also have a 10L sling which is my airplane bag for longer trips. It will hold my Fuji XT5 along with a couple of zooms, one or two small primes, and lots of assorted pieces. Both are far more comfortable than the backpacks and messenger-style bags I’ve had over the years. And, like James, I also appreciate that the smaller size forces me to make choices in the gear I take.
Thanks for a good and concise comparison. I have owned a PD 3l sling for over a year now and I love it. Most of the time my camera is out and I use the bag for other stuff or an extra lens. It does have its limits due to size and was looking around for something slightly bigger. My main criteria was to hold a camera (maybe a spare lens), bits and bobs and most importantly a water bottle. That turned out to be a challenge, I only found one that had a dedicated water bottle slot: the Wander Rogue 6l. Looks like a good bag all in all but I am a woman with a small frame and the bag is very bulky. Ended up ordering another PD in 6l. I can actually fit a 21cm tall water bottle standing up in the bag and not worry about it spilling. Works well and with the camera out of the bag I still have space for an extra lens, and a light jacket.
I became a big fan of the Billingham sling bags. Yes they have a very distinctive look - either you like it or not. And they are absurdly expansive.
But I have tried 3 of the bags on your list and still find the Billingham bags to be the most practical and also most comfortable for me.
I got a Retrospective 5 v2.0 myself. Green. And I have decorated it using textile markers with flowers and rainbows and stuff. So hopefully most people won't know it is a camera bag but will think I am a hippie or something. Much safer for my camera gear I'm thinking. I fit one camera and two lenses plus some odds and ends like batteries and lens brushes and the occational map. Have used it for over 5 years and will probably never get another bag.
Got a Retro 5 too and using for for the last 1,5 Years. I like the expandable outside pocket (drinking bottle, extra Tele, Umbrella etc..) It comes with a Raincover, but you rarely need it, because it withstand rain without it very reasonably. I like the Size, but it could be a little too small, depending on the Body/Lensens you are using. My Fuji Gear fits perfect.
Just one thought on the compagnon, if you have the top section full, the zip on the backside does make more sense as the bulk will open away instead of into the chest. If you had the zip on the front, you wouldn't be able to open the lid.
Once again, James comes out with a video that is appropriate for the dilemma I have in my life right now.
My zipper broke one one of my camera bags and I decided to look into getting a sling bag on top of getting a full camera bag. Thanks for the recommendations and a glimpse into my future if I keep going down this road🤣🤣🫠
I actually love my 10L peak design sling bag, because it is my daily bag for work and I love to take my camera everywhere, even for work. And there is still room for more without being a large backpack
I must have bought a dozen different type camera bags. Now I use a waterproof roll top ruck sack with a small padded camera case to hold my M43 camera and 4 filters. I carry additional lenses in padded neoprene lens pouches and stuff my travel tripod down one side. The pouches are all lens labeled so easy to pull out. Most convenient system I have tried.
Wotancraft Pilot 7L is my favvvv sling. I have their 18L backpack as well. They were the perfect combo for travel.
I have the Temba DNA 11. They have smaller versions I believe a nine and a six along with bigger versions 13 and 16. The design is so useful I’m very happy with them. They have a removable insert which makes them very versatile.
I got the Peter McKinnon/Nomatic sling earlier this year. I HATED it at first, but quickly realized it was because I was trying to cram my backpack into it. Once I stopped doing that I fell in love. It's also taught me that I can accomplish 90% of my photography needs with one lens and a filter or two.
One thing I don’t like about Peak Design bags is the outer fabric used. While good for all weather conditions and sturdy, I noticed they caused my t-shirts/cotton based garments to bobble quite badly.
My perfect bags for my Canon VT and VT Deluxe rangefinder cameras are the Domke F803
Ruggedwear bags. Perfection.
For my Nikon F and Nikomat FTN I enjoy two leather Ona Prince Street bags. Ive been photographing for over 50 years and have owned countless bags. These are my favorites.
For 45 years Camera bags have been trouble makers for me, I have owned and tried MANY bags ! Right NOW there are not ANY bag, shoulder/sling bag or backpack of all the hundreds of bags on the markets that I want ! I use a very old Messenger slim shoulder/sling bag from Lowepro and an old Messenger sling bag from Crumpler. I want a simple, rugged bag with a lit that cover the inside well, I do not want a lot of zippers or a lot of rooms that I cannot use, the inside should be very easy to use with excellent dividers that can be placed anywhere. My dream bag it a bag where the lid opens away from the body and at the same time when the lid is open, it will form a secure shelf, so it is easy to place my camera, lens, battery, memory card or what ever. I saw a bag like this some years ago, but I forgot the name of the brand and I cannot find it again. For a backpack I use a old Lowepro.
I still like my "Lowepro slingshot 100AW" sling bag because It comes with an extra strap so it can be balanced on the center of my back, when hiking or biking. I have to be careful not to overload it though. Thanks.
I have the AW250 and used it successfully for many years. I find it is good for airport travel as it has additional non-camera storage options.
My Domke F2 has all that I need and the look is great as it can be. I would argue that there is not a more beautiful option than the Domke F2, dirty, some blood, well aged wachsed canvas.
However. I find myself using the Peak Design sling every single day. It is just...a well designed bag that somehow makes it super easy to carry stuff, is durable and never ever gives me the feeling that something from the bag is in the way.
James always goes hard with the camera bags. Great photography and useful tips in each video, these videos are a valuable resource for photography lovers.
I kind of love my Thinktank Retrospective 5 V2.0, unless it rains. I like it, because it does not screem "camera gear inside" but the fabrik gets soaking wet quickly. Yes, it comes with a rain cover, which I had to use more often than with other bags. But I still like it a lot.
i've literally packed the kitchen sink into my peak design 10L - body + 70-200 + 18-35 + 85mm - capture clip on on side, water bottle holder on the other - i firmly support all these choices- slings are fantastic to have
Don't forget the Domke F-2!! I love that bag!!
I have a Domke F-5XB and I love it, but it doesn't come with padded sides, which was pretty lame. Luckily I had some leftover ones from a different bag.
@@BenjaminLeeds I didn't even think of using old padding! Great tip!
With the changing photo market it must be hard to come up with interesting things that grabs peoples attention. A video on how the landscape is changing and how that impacts vloggers such as yourself would be interesting to me at least.
I have the Wotan craft 7L and it’s phenomenal!
It is everything I could want and need in a bag. It even can fit (barely) a 12.9in iPad. If I need to I slide a jacket into the front pass-through.
It’s my daily driver.
Highly highly recommend to everyone.
I have about 6 or 7 slings of varrying sizes but simply cannot get away from the WANDRD 7 liter sling. While having a pretty modest main pouch the main reason I keep coming back to it for everyday carry is because of the level of comfort and the organization. I put EVERYTHING in my bag because i dont like carrying things in my pockets. Something like the bellroy sling is great if you have alot of stuff and dont mind just dumping it into the main pouch (I used it like this in Japan, it expands ALOT, dont let the size fool you), but when you inevitably need to pull something out of that bag, it can very quickly turn into a game of pulling everything out until you find what you need. Not to mention the bag swings very freely away from your body especially when its at or above full capacity, my unit in particular does not retain the shoulder strap length and needs to be constantly readjusted. The WANDRD on the other hand has so many compartments that I can very easily separate things I need quick access to like my wallet and keys while still being able to fit a decent amount of gear. Because of the design it also sucks the bag rather flat to your body in a good way, strap length retention is very good even when fully packed and padding is excellent for all day carry. Another excellent feature is that it can be used one handed almost exclusively, with handles and straps strategically placed very conveniently so it can be handled from any position on your body. It does have tripod straps if you want or need to use them, these can also be used to quickly store jackets too by just rolling them up and strapping them down. The ONLY thing it lacks is a luggage passthrough but it is frankly so comfortable to wear that its the last thing on my mind.
When I started doing photography there were no photography backpacks or sling bags. Just shoulder bags. I carried those for years. But, when backpacks and slings came along, I tried them. I tried enough to fill two cabinets in my house. What do I use today? Tenba messenger bags.
I try to stuff a camera body, SD cards, spare battery, and as many lenses as I can in a peak design 3L sling…it’s a game I like to play especially when I rent new lenses for the first time when going on a trip.
Mine is Ulanzi 6L, it has everything I need and the design is also very cool so I can style it easily, attach x-10 + 70-300mm, + 33mm f1.4, and 16mm f2.8/ 14mm/ 10- 24mm (still haven't decided which lens to buy but I used a vintage lens with the same diameter to try and it worked) I bought and sold my top design 3l 6l, thinktank restrospective 7M. *I used 2 divider from my old camera bag* this is the only bag that can fit 3 lens and a camera and can still make me feel comfortable, the others just too big, and too weird on me (normal Asian guys, 5ft6)
After owning a lot of sling-bags I got stuck to my Bellroy sling-bag. It doesn't look like a tech bag, has a clever and quick adjustment of its strap. Also there are two handy pockets on each side...
Slings work for a short stay out but otherwise are uncomfy to wear for a long time. You feel the weight imbalance quickly...
I like my PD 10L sling. I can fit my 2 lens travel combos. I take my Sony a7iii and two lenses. For family/tourist stuff I take the Tamron 28-200 and the Tamron 17-28. For wildlife/sports I use the 28-200 and my Tamron 150-500. I can fit some filters and still have room for other stuff. You are correct that a small sling forces you to make choices.
So, how does it work? Do you get up in the morning look at all the bags, decide which One to use for the day and then move your gear into that? Or do you maybe have a favourite you stick to over a period of time?
Great video James! I have the 10lt Peek Design, and so far it’s been the best one I’ve ever had a chance to use! I like how compact it is compared to other bags carring the same amount of gear in the past, but I have only one thing that I didn’t like about it: The strap, although it has some threads at the end to make it thicker and prevent it from slipping out if it reaches the edge, it’s not thick enough, and throughout the past couple of years that I had it, it slipped twice and my bag was dropped to the ground! I was really not happy about it as you can imagine. I sawed on top of the threds at the edge with a thicker thread, and the problem was solved, but this was the weakest link of that bag. Before I did that, I had to always be aware that the straps aren’t slipping and reaching the edges.
I think James may change his mind about the Mckinnon bag after more use. The clamshell opening looks great until you try and put items inside it. It only takes very thin items, try putting even slightly thicker items in like filters and the bag will not shut properly...a hopeless design error.
Also, due to the way the top opens and curves sharply at the ends, the end compartments are very hard to get items in and out of the bag and I found it impossible to get a small Fuji XT into the end spaces - another design error. I sent mine bag to Amazon as it was awful.
I just spent two weeks in London with the Wandrd Rouge 6 liter. It has a water bottle pouch on the bottom and you can strap a jacket to the underside of the bag.
I like my 8L Hex Ranger bag, been using it about 9 months now. It's less than half the price of most of the bags featured in this video and has a very basic elongated design that makes it easy to spin around, open, and swap lenses on the fly without worrying about accidentally dumping everything on the ground. My two complaints that keep it from being perfect: 1. would be nice to have a crossbody strap to save by back a bit on longer walks, 2. the zippers and zipper tabs are a little loud if you're trying not to upset wildlife. The tabs can be remedied with paracord easily enough, but not so much the former.
You should take a look at the DB Journey Ramverk Pro Sling Bag plus camera insert. Hated sling bags until i took a chance on it. Best feature is the ability to thread a waist strap/belt to it, makes the bag much more secure when hiking up mountains. I carry a Hasselblad 500cm with 50mm lens attached in mine, as well as a 150mm.
I settled on a small backpack and a small shoulder bag. Both by thinktank. The backpack is the backlight sprint and the shoulder bag is the mirrorless mover 20 v2. Selling my bellroy 10l venture sling. It’s too heavy if you fill it up and it’s too big if you only want to carry a small amount of kit.
I remember that transition from bikes and backpacks slogging up and down the peaks to the dapper grey sling bag and grey jacket. I still haven't quite recovered.
The variety of textures in the kislux pack is impressive. From smooth leather to textured suede, there's something for everyone.
Bottom straps are perfect for carrying a lightweight jacket. Don’t need a special space for it.
Bungie cord or paracord your jacket to the tripod section of your bags. Keeps everything small and lets you have a rain jacket or light jacket for fall
Great rundown. I've always been a fan of sling/shoulder bags. Mine is a Lowepro 11L.
Carry on. 👍🥂
The nomatic bag also feels great slung around the front when you are wearing a backpack. For me, I think they could have widened the handle on the backside to double as the luggage passthrough and used that whole cartoon skull panel as another pocket.
that is how i came across your channel years and years ago, i was looking for the perfect camera bag...you were back then complaining about your camera bag addiction hahaha....love the consistency man... and being 46 i m now looking for a sling bag...again perfect timing
I have the Peak Design 6L sling. I actually bought it due to a previous video of yours. I absolutely love it.
I’d recommend taking a knife to one of the inserts in the Belroy sling. It became so much more useful and it now fits an iPad Pro 11inch. Which is kinda defeats the point of being limited to what you can carry ahaha
Love my Peak Design 6L, and also a big fan of the WANDRD Rogue 6L in this weight class as well, mostly because it has a stabilizing strap for biking, and an expandable pocket for a small laptop if needed too.
Last week, I tested strapping my tripod (Gitzo GT1555T + ballhead) to my Peak Design 6L sling. I was pleasantly surprised at little I noticed the extra weight. The bag still sat well on the small of my back and didn't impact bag use at all. Your mileage may vary, of course 🙃
My mom bought one kislux and she loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when she went out with it.
Love my nomatic/peter mckinnon sling. Yes i also hate the branding. I added shock cord to the loops along the front so now i can strap in a jacket.
I think, if they change the zipper on the 4th bag, you can't open it when you have stuff in the expanded storage. It has to move somewhere when you open it up, and it can't move through your body. It can however move away from your body.
I've had 4 or 5 different slings and the one I've stuck with is the Nomatic/McKinnon as well. Do wish it was a tiny bit bigger and slightly better balanced (tips itself over when not on-body), but otherwise it's great.
I recently was in the market for a sling bag, but found a lot were either too small or silly money. Eventually I decided on a K&F alpha 10l sling and it's been absolutely superb. I do like the look of that McKinnon one, but can't justify that price tag 😅
The Wotancraft is really great. The additional pouches can be used as stand-alone slings, they deliver straps for them as well. I use this when I just carry my RX100.
I like my Wandrd Rogue Sling 6l very much. It was a decision between that and the Peak Design bag but I found the small zipper compartment in the front of the Peak Design bag very infuriating, it doesn't open widely enough to even get my cell phone in and out comfortably... And I don't have a large phone. The Wandrd bag also has the option of attaching a tripod or water bottle PLUS a jacket. And the expandable laptop sleeve in the back can also be used as an extra compartment for other stuff when not carrying a laptop. Very versatile all in all 😊
First came across Popsys when I stumbled across his super scientific cheap vs expensive camera bag video in the back garden, as I had just bought my first dslr.
Glad to see things don't change that much.
The best camera bag I use is a Tesco shopping bag with a padded camera insert . It’s cheap, water proof, breathable , light weight, inconspicuous , easy to replace.
I have the Peak Design 6L stuffed with a GX85 and three lenses, plus a 500ml water bottle that's a bit wider and thus shorter than most, because I like to stay hydrated and live dangerously, I guess.
The side opening holder flappy bits are used as battery and other thin-longish-bits storage. I find the tabletflap in the back of the bag a bit useless because as soon as you got stuff in the bag it's practically unreachable to me without unloading the bag. The front zipper pocket is also very tight, especially when you have to fish something out again, so I barely ever use it.
I like that I can leave the bag open without worrying about stuff falling out of it unless I'm a massive doofus and turn it over. Otherwise solid bag, and I like the firmness.
Before you advocate any genre of camera bag, you might ponder what kit, for which type of photography, it's actually capable of accomodating.
My mainstream photography is twofold ; surfing & fast-action generally, and wildlife.
Both of these activities demand the use of long focal lengths so, as well as generic landscape lenses, I generally have to carry a 150-600mm (preferably with body attached for rapid deployment).
Try getting that in a sling bag.
Billingham has a stranglehold on my wallet. I have 5 different billingham bags (4 camera bags 1 weekender bag). I love the waterproofing and ease of opening plus they’re so classy looking
I really love my F stop bag because it is waterproof and the 11 liter bag allows me to stuff a light jacket in it as well.
FYI fly fishing brands like Simms, Orvis and Fishpond all have waterproof sling packs. Of course they won't be compartmentalized the same way a camera bag would be but if you need durable and waterproof, they're worth a look.
fYI the Peak Design sling has straps you can add to the bottom to hold a jacket, jumper, shirt or small tripod.
Great bags! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on them!
I'd love to see Shimoda Designs make a sling. It's not really their space (adventure sling?), but whatever Shimoda makes is 100%
Facts! Shimoda bags are SO good. Got the Action X30 and Urban Explore 25 and they are both so well built and so comfortable to use. Would buy their sling/shoulder camera bag in a heartbeat.
Yeah, suggested that like 2 years ago and Ian (the founder) said they won't make one. :(
@@sashinger5230 I can see that. Maybe now that Peak Design just announced an adventure sling, Shimoda will reconsider.
@@MichaelSeneschal I hope so, too. Already have an Action X30 and an X50 and they both rock. Would be cool!
Wotancraft FTW!
I was recommended it by a friend and couldn’t be happier… but getting one in the uk can be spendy.
Personally I pronounce it wo-(like low)-tun-craft, but I suspect it’s a moveable feast.
I've used the 3L Peak Design sling the past few years. First with an X-T3 and now with a Nikon Zf. With the latter I can get the Zf with mounted 40mm plus the 28mm or visa versa or a mounted 24-120mm only. Just the single 40mm only leaves a glasses/sun glasses space. My only real complain is that the front zip box is all but useless as it is so tight.
I am very happy with my two Think Tank Bags which are the smaller Retrospective 5 V2.0 and slightly larger Retrospective 7 V2.0. They have nice top loading zipper closures with velcro flap should you wish not to zip. Interchangeable interior dividers. Many front pockets with specific purposeful designs such as card holder. They also have a rain cover. The 5 is a good walk through town bag. I use it for a body with lens and two additional lenses. It can hold a fourth lens external or a water bottle. The 7 is the same design but larger for more junk. I still use it for three + four lenses (althought larger zooms). It is nice for woodland hikes. I have not found a good solution for attaching a tripod to either bag. However, I seldom use a tripod. I have a Lowepro sling and a Domke bag. They see little use.
I used the magnet on mine and when putting it in the car, it tipped and dropped my camera out😢
I have owned a lot of quality slings and the NOmatic 😉 sling is by far the absolute best in terms of both design as well as quality.
Hey James - also highly recommend the Think Tank Retrospective 7 V2! I actually revove the dividers and use various inserts depending on my camera setup which I can then easily transfer to another bag ie backpack.
Must have been a great day when a new James Popsys video came out
I've been super happy with my Wotancraft 7l bag. Dragged it around Spain and Portugal, shot weddings with it, take it on photo walks all the time. I like that it carries water bottles which is essential for travel really. Has great pockets including a sneakier overs that are great for stashing passport, wallet, etc. Also love the look of it, sort of a sweet spot between tech and fashion with almost a military nod. Thinking I might get the 3l for simple one lens photo walks around town.
And the book is purchased. Seems only right after weekly viewings. Thank you.
I have 3 of these 5 bags, and there's something else worth mentioning about the Bellroy. It isn't 10 liters. They call it a 10 liter bag, but *by their own website's internal measurements* it is only a 7 liter bag. It's such a silly thing for them to be inaccurate about, but there it is. It's otherwise a great bag, but I wouldn't have bought it if I knew they were lying about the storage volume. So, if the size matters to you, buyer beware!
I've got the Peak Design 10L sling that I bought a wild after seeing you talk about yours when you did hot first video using it, I also bought the 13L messenger bag which has the same clasp closure as the everyday bag v2 30L that I also hedge.
lol I "lost" an extra OEM camera battery in the Peak Design bag, there's a zippered pouch on the inside of main opening, placed it in the outside most slot and forgot it was there. Went nuts looking for it, in my other bags, yes I too have a bag collection, and storage cubes.
Peak design FTW , good for combining cycling and photography at the same time . Would love an xpac bag that combines both biking and photography needs like me
I own the Compagnon Sling myself and I liked it but the zip annoys me. I'm thinking about buying the Peak Design Sling.
Can you give us a description of what you usually put in your sling bags so as to give us an idea how much fits into them? Thanks.
Be careful with the peak design sling, it wore a hole in my rab puffer jacket, right on my back where it sat, looked like the friction off the material the bag is made from rubbed the material of my coat and looked like it had melted the fabric 😳, got the gomatic sling instead and I’m very happy with it, bit more versatile as well, front pocket on the peak is an absolute waste of time.
James, we're photography gear nerds: of COURSE we enjoy hearing your thoughts on slings! 😅 Your video about the PD 6-litre Every Day Sling got me into the sling habit, away from the bring-everything-backpack groove, and my back thanks you.
One problem of the peak design sling is that if it's loaded up, like more than 7kg, the strap starts to be really uncomfortable
That Nomatic x PM bag is looking gorgeous
Hi James. Thanks for the video.
The most important feature of a sling, for me, is zip towards the body. I do street photography and zip towards helps prevent people helping themselves to your gear. Im not sure any of those in the video would work in my environment 😂
Can vouch for the Wotancraft, Definitly not cheap but my goodness is it a well made camera beg.
That's funny, I was looking at the Nomatic McKinnon sling and wanted to buy it but decided not to because of the pirate swords and skull, lol!
Ditto here ... love the Nomatic sling features, but refuse to touch it with the ugly skull & crossbones!
Nobody would ever see it, it's against your body. what in the bloody hipster is that excuse? just get it if you want to, i got it and the problem with is that you can't really pack a bit bulky stuff like wallet(big one), powerbank(slim) in the front tray without facing problems to close it properly! that's it, other than that it is by far the most smart design for a camera bag ever.
The Wotancraft has a pass through slot so you can slide your jacket. Very handy.
The problem I am seeing here, is that these are for the camera kit only, with a convienent car, hotel room or cabin to hand in which to deposit non-camera items. For me a couple of days away also includes carrying the clothes, chargers/USB stuff, iPad/Laptop and other gubbins, along with the camera and a couple of lenses. I normally use a small (ish) 30L rucksack with three compatments, and the faff begings when finding the lens I want to swap to, which somehow, is never in the part I thought I'd put it in, and is eventually found wrapped in yeterdays t-shirt and I never did get *that* shot of the Herring Gull when in Sunderland last week.
Would like the Wotancraft. I have the Peak Design 3L and 6L. Great bags. But the zipper... Even if the opening on the PD is great and wide, I have managed to scratch both my Leica M10 and SL2-S after pulling them in an out from the bag so many times. I really try not to hit the zipper. But I sometimes fail. So no zippers on my next bag...
I have two camera sling bags and one camera backpack, and I'm still unhappy :'D I really need clever supply co to make a 9L quicklike, because the 6L doesn't fit my Zf with my iPad without feeling like it's going to crack the screen. The wandrd 9L is as close as I've gotten to the perfect bag, but it's not my favorite aesthetic. I've also considered the Wotancraft Lightning Rider, but haven't picked it up yet.
I’ve settled on think tank…..❤
I really love your taste and style always so chic. My faves would be the kislux leather backpack and the Swarovski pave diamond ring so gorg. Thank you for your recommendations.
I’m sure you’re aware of Wandrd and I’m sure it’s been mentioned but I really like my Wandrd sling
I’d really like to see you use a cheap Amazon basics bag or something similar. Compare it to some of the more expensive bags? Could be interesting.