DEBATE! Was The Prophet ﷺ Poor Or Rich? Ft. Ustadh Yasin Munye || Righteous & Rich
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- Ustadh's Yasin Munye and Imran Ibn Mansur discuss whether the Prophet ﷺ was poor or rich. If one should focus on acquiring wealth, and how to do so in worship of Allah Azzawajal.
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You should say 30 day's of robering people honestly you are a waste of time 🤦♂️
I love this focus of money and wealth recently. Muslims are lacking this massively, and it hurts our ability to practice our deen. Keep up those kind of content !
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The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “By Allah, it is not poverty that I fear for you, but rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world, just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it, and it will ruin you just as it ruined them.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3158, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2961
@@AArradsubhanallah may Allah reward you for this reminder
Best commen I agree with is there were rich Sahaba and poor Sahaba, rich prophets and poor prophets. Just focus on your good deeds and make sure the money doesn’t become your priority
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The most beneficial thing I have ever heard recently
Jazakh Allah khayr
There’s a good book that actually supports imrans argument. The book is called
أموال النبي كسبا وإنفاقا وتوريثا
It shows what wealth and how much wealth the prophet
صلى الله عليه و سلم had
I’m all for making money . But mixing it with dawah and making it all about wealth it’s kind of suffocating for me as a viewer. But good on you may allah increase you
making money isn't bad
@@user-xi5im3hu4pHe literally said he is all for making money. And then you skipped the rest that followed? Read it again
Only one or two podcasts about money. And you’re already feeling suffocated? Brother there are plenty of other podcasts that arnt about money.
Exactly what i was saying.
Imran tryna push hard lol. I get both sides, but it's not really necessary to push it. Either way, the prophet (saw) was the richest in all ways in terms of spiritually and was the most beloved to Allah (swt). This is the greatest thing.
MA amazing podcast May Allah SWT reward all the presenters.
Akhe this is a missing link, Muslims are not being taught about the importance of wealth because some people confuse laziness and poverty as being closer to ALLAH and this is fake faith. Money wealth is very very important and a source of success for believers.
صلى الله عليه وسلم
Anas reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The son of Adam grows old but remains young in two matters: greed for wealth and greed for long life.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1047
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
I'm not saying muslims shouldn't work hard to make halal income and provide. But don't lose the religious perspective and become obsessed with money instead. Be a true slave of Allah, not a slave to £€$.
making money to provide for your family isn't greed
@@user-xi5im3hu4p where did I say it was?
@@user-yf5je1dn1q theyre not promoting greed. you need wealth to provide as a man. use ur brain
@@user-xi5im3hu4p the hadith doesn't say providing for your family is haraam. It's discussing the topic of GREED when it comes to wealth. Read my comment below my original comment. No-one said a halal income to provide for your family is haraam. You shouldn't be getting defensive at the mention of a sahih hadith warning us about the nature of mankind
Ignore all the hate I really benefited from this.
Prophet ﷺ was rich in the sense he was content at all times. When he had physical money and when he didn’t.
I ask Allah to reward that you are pushing the Muslims to become more wealthy for the sake of Allah. Make sure it is always lillah. Not just jetski, cars and mandem on tour.😂
I don’t agree with all of ustadh Imrans point of view. But alhamdullilah I really benefited. And made my love for chasing money and being worried about my future finance less.
May Allah keep us firm and be forgiven in ramadan.
Hope I’m not being rude - but when a host speaks more than a guest, then it’s just not right
I agree, even worst to argue with the host to push their agenda.
This video was set up as a debate where one side would argue that the prophet was rich and the other would argue the prophet was poor. By doing this, viewers will learn the deen and about the prophet and come to their own conclusion. This video wasn't to learn from just ustadh Yasin Munye but to learn from both and it was set up brilliantly as rather than argumentative debate it was highly educational.
@@alisquared3730 this is not the way to learn the Deen. What you wrote is just in your mind brother. The channel owner has decided the topic because he has this objective of “motivating the Muslim men to earn more money and explore businesses”. They did not disagree to teach people, they disagree because they actually believe the points they made not because it was stage so that people can learn.
I think and may Allah guide me, that being rich and a zahid ist the best combination of both. Being a productive, disciplined, pious and wealthy man but at the same time not spending the money for useless stuff. Buying a nice car or going for a vacation here and there is no problem at all, the problem lies in exaggeration. Why do you need to go and eat out at restaurants every single day, why do you need to buy a new phone every 6 months, why do you need to buy a pair of sneakers every 3 weeks? Get yourself some nice pair of clothes, sneakers, accessories but don't OVERDO it. If you live on a minimum wage you shouldn't be punching above your weight to begin with. Food is another example, eat healthy nutritious simple food so that you can exceed others in worshipping Allah and seeking knowledge because of the bodily strength and health you gain by consuming these types of foods. No need for golden steak every 2 days if dates, water and homemade pasta do the job too.
By Allah i have seen brothers spending mad amounts of money on stupid stuff like phone bills just because they couldn't go a day without snapchat.
Time is precious and we will be asked about it.
What about the hadith which states the poor will enter paradise 500 years before the rich and the hadith where the prophet saw said he had a chance to look into paradise and found most of the people to be poor
That hadith is weak
@@ananas4264 Not the 2nd one
@@bobthebuilder6412 I know hahaha I meant the first.
@@ananas4264 also that hadith is not daeef either it's tirmidhi 2354 saheeh by Albani and Hasan by darussalam
muslims need to have wealth. The Prophet ﷺ said: "Begin with yourself, then the members of your household." "Reported by al-Bukhāri (5355) and Muslim (1024) and its wording is: "The best charity is that given in which the giver remains enriched. The upper hand is better than the lower hand. Begin with the people of your household." This is the wording of Muslim."
The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “By Allah, it is not poverty that I fear for you, but rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world, just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it, and it will ruin you just as it ruined them.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3158, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2961
Muslims need wealth, but they also need to learn their dean and come closer to Allah before anything else.
May Allah protect us and guide us all.
@@AArrad and the prophet ﷺ said the best charity is which the giver remains enriched. don't copy and paste one narration without looking at the others. the prophet ﷺ had wealth, the sahabah had wealth, the salaf had wealth and used it for zakah, charity, providing for their families, hijrah, hajj, etc. it's obligatory for men to go and seek wealth on the earth.
@@user-xi5im3hu4p I said in my comment “Muslims need wealth” brother
@@AArrad everyone knows that putting wealth over the religion is bad. a lot of ppl don't know that its good to seek wealth to spend it for Allāh's sake.
Beneficial back and forth
I was just reading about this haha
If u dont want to use the word poor the more approprate thing would be to say is that even when he did have wealth he gave it away and went without. He didnt have this millionaire minset and hoard wealth but he was content. If u see a person who has stones wrapped around his stomach out of hunger. Your not going to say that person is rich.
I think too much of an effort here is being made to say the Prophet was rich. Examine what the scholars have said and from what it seemed generally he was not known to be a prophet of riches - its a simple issue where a debate is not even in question. A lot of playing with words here.
والله أعلم
the scholars said the prophet ﷺ was poor?
2 or 3 months no food would be cooked in his home. Tell me how he was rich.
@@elafzal5866 "And He found you poor and made you rich" 93:8
The Phrophet Muhammed PBUH
Used to tie a rock around his stomach in the battle of the trenches as Ford was scarce since the quraish had besieged medina countless narrations shows he’s humble way of living do not paint the the same brush as other leaders with our beloved phrophet muhammber May peace and blessings be upon him
Muslims these days will hear their local imam say Prophet was poor, and then be content and happy with relying on UK and Europes governments for council money and live completely dependent on the kuffar for their daily needs. Or they wi be happy working under a kafir employer who doesnt even let them pray during work hours or take eid off for his family. Its a mentality that has plagued us. Yes, prophet might have not been wealthy during some points of his life, but why dont yall ever mention the times he was wealthy ? He was never poor in the sense if being reliant on someone giving him aid and basic living necessities , which is what modern day poor means.
true, but he wasnt modern day rich either, spending on designer clothes and mansions and luxury cars and holidays.
@@haroon4330 A good horse or a camel was the equivalent of a luxury car back then, and Im sure he had a good horse since he was the leader of Muslims. Holiday is a modern concept, but he did use to travel for business reasons with a caravan all the way to sham with his uncle during childhood. Why are you making it seem like having a good car or house as a practicing muslim is somehow a bad thing ?
@@rostam40 not a bad thing but people often give up their souls trying to attain these things. The dunyah is a blink of an eye compared to the akhirah
at 27.14 ustaad mentions a hadeeth , can anyone find the reference for it ??
بارك الله فيكم
أسند ابن الجوزي في (العلل المتناهية) من حديث عمر مرفوعا: أتاني جبريل فقال: يا محمد! ربك يقرأ عليك السلام ويقول: إن من عبادي من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا بالغنى، ولو أفقرته لكفر، وإن من عبادي من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا بالقلة، ولو أغنيته لكفر، وإن من عبادي من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا بالسقم، ولو أصححته لكفر، وإن من عبادي من لا يصح إيمانه إلا بالصحة، ولو أسقمته لكفر.
ثم من حديث أنس بأطول منه، وفيه: إن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا بالغنى، ولو أفقرته لأفسده ذلك، وإن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا الفقر، فلو بسطت له لأفسده ذلك، وإن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا الصحة، ولو أسقمته لأفسده ذلك، وإن من عبادي المؤمنين من لا يصلح إيمانه إلا السقم، ولو أصححته لأفسده ذلك، إني أدبر عبادي بقلوبهم، إني عليم خبير. ثم قال: هذا حديث لا يصح. اهـ.
وضعفه كذلك ابن رجب في (جامع العلوم والحكم) والألباني في (السلسلة الضعيفة).
وحديث عمر عزاه السيوطي للخطيب البغدادي، وعزى حديث أنس لابن أبي الدنيا في كتاب الأولياء، والحكيم، وابن مردويه، وأبي نعيم في الحلية، والبيهقي في الأسماء، وابن عساكر . وأورد رواية أخرى بمعناها من حديث ابن عباس مرفوعا، بلفظ: ربما سألني وليي المؤمن الغنى، فأصرفه إلى الفقر، ولو صرفته إلى الغنى لكان شرا له، وربما سألني وليي المؤمن الفقر، فأصرفه إلى الغنى، ولو صرفته إلى الفقر لكان شرا له. وعزاه للطبراني.
وقال الهيثمي في (مجمع الزوائد): فيه جماعة لم أعرفهم. اهـ.
وهذا المعنى ذكره غير واحد من أهل العلم.
قال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية في (مجموع الفتاوى): قد يكون الفقر لبعض الناس أنفع من الغنى، والغنى أنفع لآخرين، كما تكون الصحة لبعضهم أنفع كما، في الحديث الذي رواه البغوي وغيره
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جزاك الله خيرا
from all the names which in the hadith of our Prophet peace be upon him in my limited knowledge, poor or rich is not one them
he was offered to a king Prophet but he declined
yet he was more generous than the fast wind in Ramadan
the world had no value in his eyes
I have a question for Imran.
What’s the next step after making all your money? Giving it away. So why not give away all the wealth you made?
The prophet saw gave away the war booty.
Abu bakr gave away all his wealth.
Umar gave away half his wealth.
Why not emulate them and give away at least half of ur wealth that you made?
Great episode! Thank you all. So much better than your content on women. This should be your niche. 😊
It's so funny how Imran always makes an awkward intro for Abu Bakr.(You can see the pain in Imran's eyes)
Sad but funny at the same time
O Muhammad, your Lord has sent me to you and He says: Shall He make you a Prophet-king or a Messenger-slave? Jibreel said: Be humble before your Lord, O Muhammad. He said: “Rather a Messenger-slave.”
Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in as-Saheehah, 1002
Imran gon defend his point no matter what loool these men hilarious
the messenger of Allahs SAAWS income was the spoils of war.
''my provision is under the shade of my spear''
''my provision is under the shade of my spear''
Reference?
@@MAli99923 It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (sa) said: “I have been sent ahead of the Hour with the sword, until Allah alone is worshipped with no partner or associate, and my provision has been placed beneath the shade of my spear.”
Narrated by Ahmad, 6/129; classed as saheeh by al-‘Iraaqi in Takhreej Ihya’ ‘Uloom ad-Deen, 2/352. Also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami‘, 5142.
Wasn't he (SAW) rich but lived very nomadically?
He ﷺ lived modestly, since he gave most of his wealth away.
@oa6551 they agreed upon this in the podcast, that he lived nonadically because he chose to be content with that which is little despite having the ability to make dua and change that whenever he wanted ﷺ.
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The Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad ﷺ is the richest amongst all creation.
Very condescending from abu bakr @ 46.17
I think Imran clearly displayed he had a definition of “rich” and “poor” which simply doesn’t apply to the average believer, rather his definitions only apply to the Prophet ﷺ.
Ok cool, no problem, but this is not a valid way to refute the saying “Poverty is piety.”
I completely disagree with the saying as well, but this is just a delusional way of trying to refute it. Just makes one look silly.
Please don’t try to paint picture prophet was rich with money he was not he actually picked to live a modest life prophet said this umar after he cried seeing the prophet sleeping in bad date “O son of Khattab, are you not pleased that they are for us in the Hereafter and for them in the world?” He also lived at times in bad hunger …. Abu Talhah reported: We complained about hunger to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and we lifted our garments to reveal stones tied to our stomachs, so the Messenger of Allah lifted his garment to reveal two stones.
Alhamdulilah the prophet also had lots of money, he ﷺ just gave it all away. For example, 1/5 of the spoils of war was given to him. So technically he was rich.
The prophet wanted nothing to do with wealth only time he used money was for the good of the ummah he could of lived like a king but didn’t want that someone who had money wouldn’t be starving for days countless Hadith back my point the prophet lives a modest life and didn’t want wealth
There was times he had money and times he didn’t , he was always content aka truly rich.
theres nothing wrong with being rich lol give a hadith where the prophet ﷺ said he was poor
Umar saw the prophet in poor state sleeping on floor with marks on his back and cried
Imran really did disrespect to the brother across him, bruh u dont have to agree but dont push ur opinion on your guest who is there to talk, and u are trying to proof your point bcz yall all seeing money now? Wallah shame on u, seek Allah’s forgiveness
there's rich prophets, there's rich sahabah who were promised jannah. you need to have wealth in order to give zakah and sadaqah and make hajj. you're ignorant if you discourage muslims from making money and encourage them to be poor. backwards mindset. nothing wrong with promoting halal wealth as long as you're using it correctly.
You need money, wealth is a plus. Nobody is discouraging Muslims to not have money off course you should but akhi you should not be obsessed by this
@@ochoocho9655 encouraging men to make halal money isn't obsessing over it. live in the real world
It’s really sad seeing imran pushing the idea the prophet has wealthy and rich( not true at all) you could see the love these guys have for money why is the brother Yasin not correcting him ? So many Hadith’s showing that the Prophet was not rich and lived like a traveller.
Allah says … ask … I will give you more
you have no knowledge of the religion
@PrisonerOfWar99push all you want but dont use the prophet peace be upon him was rich narrative because he wasn't.
Imran and Abu Bakr are trying to make out Prophet saw was rich. He wasn't.
In this discussion they are trying to make out he Salalaho wassalam had worldly wealth.
They are trying to justify their actions using semantics of how our beloved Rasool had wealth but he was Zuhud.
From Dawah to Dunya! May Allah swt humble these guys.
he ﷺ was rich
Have good thoughts of your brothers
To have 13 wifes,you have to bee rich
What’s with all this money talk? What happened to the lectures? I might actually stop watching every other day money money money,
keep the Dean and money different. Literally keep this page to Dawah and keep your business endeavours separate, it’s becoming worrying
This brother might need to focus on that ayah in Surat Kahf instead of his interpretations of whatever Hadith he thinks making money is most important
Ahki what happend to you, I believe your intentions are good but mostly everything you talk about is money now lol teach us how to be steadfast not how to make $1000000 please bring the old imran back 🤲🏾
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing
he already has videos on that. stop complaining
@PrisonerOfWar99he got wealthy off RUclips not everyone can do that
This man has utterly changed. What a deceitful and conniving conversation trying to strong hand and manoeuvre the shaykh into agreeing with his stance of the prophet being rich. To which he admits was to ensure it aligns with what he is peddling to the youth of the idea of being righteous and rich…
Dawahman trying to corrupt people but alhamdolillah the Sheikh stood his ground. Dawahman seems obsessed with wealth. Allah offered to turn a mountain to gold for Prophet SAW and He SAW refused it. Dawahman needs to check himself for wahn
This obession with wealth from imran and abu siyaraa and the naseeha sessions team is alarming. What happened to calling to tawheed and beneficial ilm this channel was known for? Look everyone likes wealth but since the badr club stuff i feel like its money money money. With all due respect i get you want the youth to follow but not everyone cares for this live fast halal version. Cars, thobes, holidays. 😅
This kind of mentality is why we muslims are WEAK in this world right now. Muslims are the laziest students. The most dishonest workers. Zero in terms of contribution to scientific advancement, benefiting of mankind and acquiring wealth. Its important for people who do dawah to instill this in Muslims, its been neglected for too long. Actions speak louder than words. If Muslims were successful in this dunya alongside being obedient Muslims, this would be the greatest form of dawah.
I shouldn’t even respond akhi, but it’s not befitting to name call someone then try to give them naseeha in the same comment.
If you genuinely want to give him advice then there are better ways in sha Allah.
@@BxFree it wasn't even intended as naseeha if this forex crypto bro style dawah is what the people want then i guess this is what is trending nowadays. Just thinking out loud. May Allah swt may forgive me if i offended anyone or the naseeha sessions team, ameen ya raab.
@@AbuSawsan what’s wrong with him promoting others to get their finances up?
Deen is always first but they are not mutually exclusive.
Ive been thinking the same. I love these brothers and an occasional video about money is fine but now the majority of the vids are about money which is much different than his past dawah
Hahah honestly this darwa men is a joke is obsessed by money this is is not darwa men is money men seriously
How is this guy a sheikh coming here and lecturing Muslims around the Prophet SAW and insulting him by claiming he was poor?
Are you kidding me?
How does a man who conquered city after city, was offered riches (from the same people who conquered) NOT be abundant in wealth?
The middle answer is the Prophet SAW CHOSE a life of humility and rejected materialism, but had the choice of wealth.
Sheikhs like these are the reasons Muslims in the west are at the bottom of the barrel, having to work for Kuffar out of necessity, unable to provide for their family, and wondering where Allahs 'barakah' is.
Great rebuttals from Dawah man & Co - I'm glad to see a shift in the attitude towards money in the Muslim world.
@PrisonerOfWar99 That’s what he was insinuating if you read past the lines. Watch the video.
@PrisonerOfWar99 You're being hypocritcal because in your first comment, you slandered me by saying I should watch the video with a heart that's not sick, implying that my heart is sick.
Maybe take some of your own advice in the last 10 days eh?
@oa6551 i dont think @PrisonerOfWar99 insulted you, but you did the brother in the video. Yes a muslim is allowed to make loads of money, but in this day of age look at what the money is doing to the muslims they go buy fancy cars etc... they arent giving it away as the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
Also its a Hadith stating, that the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم didnt fear poverty for his ummah it was wealth
@@oa6551the problem is that Muslims lose themselves in the pursuit of wealth, whereas in poverty you may remember him. Don’t get me wrong as their are poor people who are wretched and rich people who pray in the mosque 5x a day.
Although I see the asceticism of poverty, I myself want to retire so I can pray in the mosque 5 times a day and travel stress free while formulating other plans that aren’t just money focused. I want to make money to forget about money. Not make money just to make more until it engulfs me entirely and becomes my purpose in life.
@@mr.t.1237 that’s exactly the same sentiments as me bro but you can’t do any of that without money which is what we both need to reach the life we want
Good convo, but Imran is saying the verse is general but adding a specific meaning to it(?)!! Alarming. Plus this lie he’s peddling that poverty = piety is not something the majority of Muslims even say.