What the Xbox & Activision Deal Means for PS6, Xbox Series Consoles - Next-Gen Console Watch

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @4uanC
    @4uanC 2 года назад +193

    One of Microsoft's best decisions was making the Series S. Even if one decides to go with PlayStation as their main console, the S allows them to also enjoy Xbox for a much lower price.

    • @ninadganore
      @ninadganore 2 года назад +32

      games at a lower price and consoles at a lower price. They just made gaming more affordable.

    • @Rob7274
      @Rob7274 2 года назад +18

      For now they offer gaming at a lower price.
      Until they have control of the industry.

    • @iTrustInTheMusic
      @iTrustInTheMusic 2 года назад +5

      Or just buy a budget pc that you can upgrade down the line..

    • @sparoc3
      @sparoc3 2 года назад +30

      @@iTrustInTheMusic You'll not get a new GPU for $300 that matches the series S.

    • @cb863
      @cb863 2 года назад +26

      @@iTrustInTheMusic just stop with this dumb argument. Most casual gamers who are budget conscious has zero interest in getting a PC. They care about consoles and mobile gaming!

  • @dotty1774
    @dotty1774 2 года назад +282

    Personally fell off COD since MW3 back in the day. But still a loss for Playstation. Hopefully both Xbox and Playstation can remain competitive so we consumers can reap the benefits.

    • @dotty1774
      @dotty1774 2 года назад +32

      @Armando Aranda They're pretty slippery 🤣

    • @stevenstone9863
      @stevenstone9863 2 года назад

      Always one

    • @HumbleStudent0023
      @HumbleStudent0023 2 года назад +13

      Monopolies are not beneficial to consumers just corporations.

    • @zubinchadha6489
      @zubinchadha6489 2 года назад +36

      @@HumbleStudent0023 yeah but what about sony making spider-man and wolverine exclusive which were always multiplatform

    • @sebastianpizxa1553
      @sebastianpizxa1553 2 года назад +9

      @@zubinchadha6489 those were different developers for games not a whole dev

  • @Eatfreshguy407
    @Eatfreshguy407 2 года назад +108

    Microsoft/Xbox is thinking 5-10 years ahead and beyond, and has been for 20 years. Sony builds an elegant 2 lane road up and around a mountain with sweeping vistas and turns, microsoft blows a hole through the mountain to put in a bullet train.

    • @americafkyeah8695
      @americafkyeah8695 2 года назад

      Organics better

    • @TheNivektube
      @TheNivektube 2 года назад

      MS leaving console industry here. CoD will remain on PS5

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL 2 года назад +3

      Not the best comment ever.
      MS buys the freeway, it doesn't build anything

    • @DarkAnomaly
      @DarkAnomaly 2 года назад

      Hololens wants a word with you.

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL 2 года назад

      @@DarkAnomaly
      That's not for the gaming industry. And the presentation gives a false impression of its abilities.

  • @Storming360
    @Storming360 2 года назад +137

    you got to remember that Activision is not just one of the largest third-party publishers, it is the first one. They were in gaming before Nintendo.

    • @ShadyDBZ4
      @ShadyDBZ4 2 года назад +3

      Microsoft buys Nintendo confirmed?

    • @krishansharma.47
      @krishansharma.47 2 года назад +17

      @@ShadyDBZ4 they actually tried. Nintendo declined and here we are.

    • @gamerforlife3946
      @gamerforlife3946 2 года назад +3

      @@ShadyDBZ4 Yeah not happening as it will monopolise them 100% now

    • @mhm6
      @mhm6 2 года назад +7

      @@gamerforlife3946 why would it? It’s not like Nintendo is doing bad. Why would it give Xbox their IP? When it can continue to make money from it with 0 competition to steal its profits

    • @MariNate1016
      @MariNate1016 2 года назад +7

      @@krishansharma.47 the Japanese would never allow a foreign company to own their shining jewel.

  • @343ishill
    @343ishill 2 года назад +115

    Xbox have cornered both the FPS and RPG genre by acquiring Bethesda and ActiBlizz.
    Nevermind that means Xbox also has marketing rights for the Call of Duty, Overwatch and Halo Esports Leagues.
    That's 3 of the prominent FPS Esports watched by millions worldwide.
    This is a huge shakeup to the "Console War".
    Forcing Sony to innovate and partner up with other studious to fill the gaps left in their games lineup now.

    • @oror3751
      @oror3751 2 года назад +18

      They also cornered the RTS....(mostly important on PC ...)

    • @kellz1703
      @kellz1703 2 года назад +16

      It so crazy to think that 3 of the most played and popular ffps is now own by Microsoft. DOOM, Halo, and now COD

    • @nuno3887
      @nuno3887 2 года назад +17

      Well, sony did took street fighter 5 from everyone else, final fantasy 7 remake too for some reason? Poetic justice maybe?

    • @kobainage
      @kobainage 2 года назад +22

      ‘Western’ rpg genre. PlayStation is still the console for jrpgs.

    • @rokmare
      @rokmare 2 года назад +7

      @@kobainage nope Nintendo has that title

  • @oltv942
    @oltv942 2 года назад +86

    Impossible to get the ps6 with all these scalpers 😤

    • @ExploringWithMike69
      @ExploringWithMike69 2 года назад +1

      Switch over join the winning side

    • @saikopsychiatry
      @saikopsychiatry 2 года назад +4

      @@ExploringWithMike69 Xbox is the same issue with scalping bro

    • @jfitnesshealth
      @jfitnesshealth 2 года назад +1

      @@saikopsychiatry excepted you wont need an xbox console to play their games. thats how they win

    • @saikopsychiatry
      @saikopsychiatry 2 года назад +3

      @@jfitnesshealth what

    • @saikopsychiatry
      @saikopsychiatry 2 года назад +3

      @@jfitnesshealth ah, it doesn't matter though bc pc parts are scalped too

  • @PhinneusPrune
    @PhinneusPrune 2 года назад +139

    Wow ... Jonathan had a look of defeat when Ryan said, "Soon to be the only podcast being Microsoft is buying everyone"
    Jonathan Dornbush's happy demeanor has significantly changed since the first episode of NGCW

    • @JUSTJEREMY25
      @JUSTJEREMY25 2 года назад +15

      Been waiting to see how he felt about this lol

    • @Noe-fs5ik
      @Noe-fs5ik 2 года назад +37

      It's been a hilarious process through out the year

    • @Man1ak730
      @Man1ak730 2 года назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Corrupted16348
      @Corrupted16348 2 года назад +22

      "Beyond" defeated

    • @THE_DEEZLE
      @THE_DEEZLE 2 года назад +7

      What a beautiful thing it is

  • @gingainfinity1034
    @gingainfinity1034 2 года назад +121

    Aah yes the ps6 a console currently available to the public

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k 2 года назад +3

      the PS5 did not hit the 6-8 years mark yet ...

    • @xdjrunner
      @xdjrunner 2 года назад +4

      @@notoriousbig3k this is just window dressing for IGN to now secretly become an Xbox fanboy channel because everyone else complained it was a "Pony" channel
      No r/Kap

  • @gameimprovements4347
    @gameimprovements4347 2 года назад +46

    Damn. Why don't we figure out what a PS5 is before talking about the PS6!

    • @metallicafan416
      @metallicafan416 2 года назад

      Microsofts acquisitions will have the biggest effect in the next gen, it's relevant in the conversation

    • @mickeymoose2583
      @mickeymoose2583 2 года назад +2

      @@metallicafan416 that’s not necessarily true

  • @MichaelSharratt
    @MichaelSharratt 2 года назад +44

    Maybe the fact that a lot of us haven't been able to get our hands on a new console yet - not for want of trying - this is incredible timing.
    Makes Playstation users (like me) think about our next purchase.
    Great business move from Xbox

    • @anelibrahimovic7787
      @anelibrahimovic7787 2 года назад +3

      You make it sound like its PS fault you cant get a console lol. More PS5 out there than PS4 in this time frame. So yeah try harder

    • @irbisae4964
      @irbisae4964 2 года назад +24

      @@anelibrahimovic7787 lmao m8 he didn't say that. You just mad bro. Wtf u implying lol

    • @Kevintuminski
      @Kevintuminski 2 года назад +7

      @@anelibrahimovic7787 No one said it’s PlayStations fault. It’s hard to get a PlayStation or Xbox right now. People who haven’t gotten either yet might go with Xbox this generation because of the acquisition.

    • @gamerforlife3946
      @gamerforlife3946 2 года назад

      Playstation user saying this coincidence comment? Yeah don’t buy it. You aren’t a ps user.

    • @TypicalBlakk
      @TypicalBlakk 2 года назад

      @@anelibrahimovic7787 Btw Sony Said They Making A Millon More PS4 This Year😂😂😂

  • @techknow9237
    @techknow9237 2 года назад +43

    It means XB will have more exclusives, more games, more games for Gamepass and now less of the digs and cheap shots at MS from Sony.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 2 года назад

      At the end of the day, it's a win for the gamers.

    • @Shaker1000
      @Shaker1000 2 года назад +1

      @Xapa you don't remember the game share commercial by Sony? That was a low blow

    • @caos024
      @caos024 2 года назад +4

      @@Shaker1000 TBF, MS deserved that. That was extremely anti-consumer.

    • @DarkAnomaly
      @DarkAnomaly 2 года назад

      We'll see. Microsoft has acquired many studios before only to close them down or something else that wasn't in our favour. Whether it happens here only time will tell.

  • @Coloradocaliber
    @Coloradocaliber 2 года назад +64

    Phil already answered this too. He said with Disney and Netflix it doesn’t matter the device. You use them to interact in an ecosystem. FB, IG, Disney +, etc. Xbox wants to be in the same position. Any device. When you want to game you prefer to just play In the Xbox ecosystem. He always tells you guys what he envisions and then you guys report it months later. Watch Phil’s interviews with the business channels. Where he has money analysis asking him questions. He answers this stuff way more clearly.

    • @MariNate1016
      @MariNate1016 2 года назад +12

      This. He wanted gamepass on PlayStation and switch

    • @nickming8738
      @nickming8738 2 года назад +3

      @@MariNate1016 not going to work unless Xbox can benefit off of ps games

    • @bihimtheman
      @bihimtheman 2 года назад +3

      Apple doesn’t wait 10 years for the next iPhone, Development for the next systems starts soon as the one is released. It only makes sense.

    • @jtchal320
      @jtchal320 2 года назад +6

      @@nickming8738 wouldn’t putting gamepass on PlayStation work towards Microsoft’s benefit? They’d take in even more subscribers on even more platforms. And they wouldn’t have to worry about pushing consoles since it’s the software they’re selling. (Edit: corrected would to wouldn’t)

    • @schrom1
      @schrom1 2 года назад +1

      @@jtchal320 Exactly, best thing playstation could do would be to allow gamepass on the PlayStation hardware. Same with the switch. Microsoft can forget about hardware and just become a cloud/services company. If they really want to go up against the likes of Facebook and amazon and google it makes perfect sense to double down on the incumbent players and not care as much about hardware, That way they can even make deals to include playstation games on gamepass. Next 5 years will totally transform the industry.

  • @serialkiller77
    @serialkiller77 2 года назад +78

    I’d rather Microsoft buy them than Facebook or Google or Tencent so I’m happy with this

    • @KewlkatNDahat
      @KewlkatNDahat 2 года назад +5

      You forgetting Amazon which owns twitch...lol

  • @aztronomy7457
    @aztronomy7457 2 года назад +51

    Considering it's still nearly impossible to get a console due to supply chain shortage and scalpers....cloud gaming, making older consoles forward compatible, and cross platforming with PC seems to be the near future. You just can't depend on people to be able to get their hands on consoles in order to buy your products. This generation has completed stagnated "next gen" gaming.

    • @22antricha
      @22antricha 2 года назад +10

      This Xbox has sold more copies than any other Xbox in this timeframe. There’s just more demand than ever before. If you want a pc that can run as well as these new systems it’s just as hard to get the parts right now.

    • @SoraFinalForm47
      @SoraFinalForm47 2 года назад

      That don’t make sense lol everything is hard to find you just sound like you listened to microsoft

    • @TypicalBlakk
      @TypicalBlakk 2 года назад

      @@22antricha W I Got My Series X 2 Weeks Ago

    • @matthewjones5169
      @matthewjones5169 2 года назад +1

      Most people don't have a next gen console yet, so they could just buy an xbox instead.

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 2 года назад

      @@matthewjones5169 for 900 from a scalper on Ebay.

  • @angelicemperor2686
    @angelicemperor2686 2 года назад +55

    Really hope MS can help make Diablo 4 really great. Looking forward to it.

    • @jackd6148
      @jackd6148 2 года назад

      That will be a great exclusive

  • @astralisoffthechain8588
    @astralisoffthechain8588 2 года назад +16

    Let’s start this gen first.

  • @MrMisterJW
    @MrMisterJW 2 года назад +4

    Anybody have the restock information for the PS6?

  • @garyalvarado2155
    @garyalvarado2155 2 года назад +65

    Feel like Microsoft will force Sonys hand and not making Activision games exclusive as long as Sony makes their games available for xbox too. If they don’t that’s when they’ll change their minds and making it exclusive

    • @cliffarthur6549
      @cliffarthur6549 2 года назад +6

      Unless sony replies by buying Rockstar and EA.

    • @darkshat3077
      @darkshat3077 2 года назад +3

      @Padre Vojko they can easily buy them

    • @kenroyforrester156
      @kenroyforrester156 2 года назад +11

      @@darkshat3077 Easley ? What do you call Easley?

    • @EliteScentsOnly
      @EliteScentsOnly 2 года назад +23

      @@cliffarthur6549 rockstar and Ea aren’t selling 😂

    • @sylis3428
      @sylis3428 2 года назад +32

      Microsofts is looking at the future right now, none of this is going to really benefit us for a few years.
      Microsoft isn't competing with Sony, they're competing with FB, Amazon, Google.
      Sony is fighting themselves

  • @Gartimus_Prime
    @Gartimus_Prime 2 года назад +14

    Iron man didn’t go looking for the stones. Thanos did. Phil is Inevitable.

    • @lordxeno8270
      @lordxeno8270 2 года назад +1

      And iron man died at the end, meaning that….

    • @Gartimus_Prime
      @Gartimus_Prime 2 года назад

      @@lordxeno8270 and Thanos died in the end, meaning that…

  • @magicmark1035
    @magicmark1035 2 года назад +6

    If your a massive cod fan on ps, we all know 80% of the people will buy an Xbox anyway, so it’s a W for MS.

  • @NPK476
    @NPK476 2 года назад +24

    Future children in 10 years "what's a play station?"

    • @billoverbeck3784
      @billoverbeck3784 2 года назад +6

      Correction: u got salty as hell by that comment

    • @DowuerSup
      @DowuerSup 2 года назад +2

      Correction: Future children in 10 years "What's a console?"

    • @zubinchadha6489
      @zubinchadha6489 2 года назад +7

      @@Michael-sm3xg correction: Future children in 10 years "what's sony"???

    • @ktdagoat1289
      @ktdagoat1289 2 года назад +2

      @@Michael-sm3xg Kids in 10 years answer on Xbox: The place of COD Overwatch Hellblade WoW Halo Fallout TES Avowed Perfect Dark Doom Quake and all those other games right??
      Vs answer of: Huh?? Those guys about to release Spidey part 12 followed by the GOW reboot?? Heard they making the 13th TLoU 1 remaster yeah ima get it day and date on PC 😂..

    • @zubinchadha6489
      @zubinchadha6489 2 года назад +1

      @@Michael-sm3xg it's the company which will sell spider-man movie rights to disney and will lose to microsoft in console wars , and sony is super poor in comparison to microsoft the tech giant.
      And don't forget sony made the female ghost buster movie

  • @MrGhostjr12
    @MrGhostjr12 2 года назад

    Where is the poll? They never put a link….

  • @matthewhardwick8208
    @matthewhardwick8208 2 года назад +21

    If Sony wants a similar type of announcement they got to get Square Enix. They are the only mega publisher that makes sense for the history they've had together.

    • @pax_sxprano
      @pax_sxprano 2 года назад +16

      Microsoft will aquire every gaming company

    • @chrisd8458
      @chrisd8458 2 года назад +11

      If Sony wants to be on equal ground...
      They NEED to buy Capcom, Konami, and Square ASAP.
      We all know what happens with Capcom and Square.... but getting Konami would be a massive deal. It would mean Metal Gear,.Castlevania and Silent Hill being used the way they should be. People by the millions shouldn't have to beg for what should be obvious.

    • @santhoshmanickavasagam2467
      @santhoshmanickavasagam2467 2 года назад +7

      @@pax_sxprano That will invite anti-trust lawsuits.

    • @tuantranthai6521
      @tuantranthai6521 2 года назад +12

      Japanese publishers don't like sell themselves for money

    • @resulnaki
      @resulnaki 2 года назад +28

      Enix no where near the level of Activision, hell not even Bethesda. Anything less than EA won't cut it and they can't do that

  • @laucha324
    @laucha324 2 года назад +21

    Can't wait for Sony to restock the PS6 already

  • @adonis3085
    @adonis3085 2 года назад +22

    Microsoft really got tired of being the butt of the jokes when it came to their lack of exclusives last generation. They’re not playing around no more

    • @Streifen1911
      @Streifen1911 2 года назад +1

      it’s a about time they started hitting back

  • @hiimbooper8550
    @hiimbooper8550 2 года назад +8

    People calling Xbox a monopoly, while they only own like 10% of the game industry.

    • @UndisputedNerd
      @UndisputedNerd 2 года назад +4

      Sadly most people don't understand what a monopoly is, Microsoft could buy ubisoft,EA, and take two and they still wouldn't be considered a monopoly.

  • @OtherNation
    @OtherNation 2 года назад +26

    MS just bought the infra structure and IPs because it would take them too long create them by themselves. It is a necessary step for Game Pass to be more successful. But you know people can leave all the time and open new Studios. We will see what happens

    • @pherron7471
      @pherron7471 2 года назад +4

      Yes. Why are people panicking? People do open new studios and want to be independent.

    • @gamerforlife3946
      @gamerforlife3946 2 года назад

      Exactly funny that people are panicking about this.

    • @pherron7471
      @pherron7471 2 года назад

      @@kato093 They don't have a monopoly. There are still plenty of game developers out there. Once you get past the current hit games, production for some of those studios is lackluster.

    • @pherron7471
      @pherron7471 2 года назад

      @@kato093 Yeah. It'll be okay.

  • @pHixiq
    @pHixiq 2 года назад +30

    If there is ANYONE I’d want to have control over big gaming companies, it’s Phil and Microsoft by a big mile

    • @AmirLiberty
      @AmirLiberty 2 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @MrKrishnadevotee
      @MrKrishnadevotee 2 года назад +1

      Yeah the value they give, they make gaming affordable and fun.

  • @GMAN-tc8vf
    @GMAN-tc8vf 2 года назад +18

    Have 2 of each of XBOX SX & PS5 in my Living Room and Theatre Room. Sadly to say the PS5 does not get turned since Miles Morales. With this recent acquisition by MS it’ll collect even more dust.

    • @WillOnCode
      @WillOnCode 2 года назад +4

      Well you got HZD2 NEXT LOL that's when ima turn on mines

    • @MrKrishnadevotee
      @MrKrishnadevotee 2 года назад +2

      Facts Microsoft strategy is the future, they so in tune with gaming community. They should be the future, they put gamers pockets and desires first

    • @caos024
      @caos024 2 года назад +1

      @@MrKrishnadevotee you do realize that 100% incorrect right?

  • @CyberDemon1
    @CyberDemon1 2 года назад +19

    Microsoft realizes that we’re in the end game of console enthusiasm. Consoles have peaked in terms of improvement and in the future it will be a hard sell to get someone to upgrade from a PS5 or Xbox X because they can’t get much better anymore. Future profit is in software and they are cementing their future in gaming revenue by adapting early.

    • @trentp1993
      @trentp1993 2 года назад +8

      If you think consoles have peaked you’re a moron.

    • @Brazillianboi69
      @Brazillianboi69 2 года назад

      Consoles can definitely still get better as long as their are better Pc’s. These consoles cannot push past 120 fps and if it does, it’s at the expense of the quality.

    • @marsoblivi0n945
      @marsoblivi0n945 2 года назад +1

      @@trentp1993 I’ve skipped buying kit playing the past 3 generations because they’re wasn’t any real improvements in graphics until this generation. I’m also into tech and hardware and sound engineer. My brother is a game developer and I’m here to tell you your wrong.

    • @trentp1993
      @trentp1993 2 года назад +3

      @@marsoblivi0n945 you’re* wrong

    • @marsoblivi0n945
      @marsoblivi0n945 2 года назад

      @@trentp1993 your easily amused

  • @casieryback8932
    @casieryback8932 2 года назад +6

    I’ve owned PS 1-5 and never even considers an Xbox…, just picked up a Series s. So the shift is real.

  • @CrazyMikey86
    @CrazyMikey86 2 года назад

    Cant find this poll anywhere ????

  • @DannyrckZ
    @DannyrckZ 2 года назад +27

    Imagine microsoft saying if ps users want to play cod, they have to subscribe to gamepass lmao

    • @jayevans20
      @jayevans20 2 года назад +14

      Imagine? Lmao. That's going to be real in a year and half. Lmao.

    • @mikem2253
      @mikem2253 2 года назад

      Or just buy a Series X. By the time it becomes exclusive, Series X/S will be dirt cheap (2024+).

    • @shanelambert6985
      @shanelambert6985 2 года назад +1

      They will literally lose 150 million ps4 and ps5 users and that will drop the cod franchise incredibly low.

    • @BigFresh37
      @BigFresh37 2 года назад +5

      @@shanelambert6985 Doesn't matter.

    • @TheJoker1904
      @TheJoker1904 2 года назад +3

      @@shanelambert6985 your telling us that those 150 million will not want to subscribe to Gamepass to get cod 🤔...

  • @Suhadisgood
    @Suhadisgood 2 года назад +7

    Xbox is better then PlayStation they deserve to own Activision.

  • @Blazer-RPT
    @Blazer-RPT 2 года назад +20

    Once the deal is finalized Call Of Duty Franchise will be exclusive to XBOX ecosystem and others & the COD Warzone will be multiplat

  • @Donodabet
    @Donodabet 2 года назад +2

    Xbox/Activision Blizzard franchises:
    call of duty
    crash bandicoot
    diablo
    tony hawk
    spyro
    world of warcraft
    overwatch
    guitar hero
    prototype
    tenchu

  • @PricefieldPunk
    @PricefieldPunk 2 года назад +18

    It means Sony finally has to make create a new IP to fill the multiplayer FPS

  • @gamintrucker1016
    @gamintrucker1016 2 года назад +2

    The Microsoft Ecosystem is great and all but many people still can't access high-speed stable internet.

    • @NickRants
      @NickRants 2 года назад

      get an ethernet cable

    • @gamintrucker1016
      @gamintrucker1016 2 года назад

      @@NickRants That's gonna work well with satellite internet service?

    • @gamintrucker1016
      @gamintrucker1016 2 года назад

      @@NickRants CenturyLink

    • @NickRants
      @NickRants 2 года назад

      @@gamintrucker1016 well why you got that for

    • @gamintrucker1016
      @gamintrucker1016 2 года назад +1

      @@NickRants I'm in a bad service area. Some people have to move for great service options.

  • @bannequins
    @bannequins 2 года назад +9

    This isn’t the last company Microsoft/Xbox will purchase.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 2 года назад +1

      Anything is possible with Microsoft.

  • @Shashi1222k
    @Shashi1222k 2 года назад +20

    To the guys who are saying this is monopoly. You don't know the reality.
    Activision wanted themselves to be sold. They approached many companies but at last MS bought them by outbiding FB.
    Now imagine Activision being sold to FB.💀

  • @dayv31
    @dayv31 2 года назад +11

    Already talking PS6? You weren't kidding when you named this show Next-Gen Console Watch 😂

  • @cousinchris5851
    @cousinchris5851 2 года назад +23

    Sony has great exclusive single player narrative driven games. If you like FPS and RPG's then invest in Xbox ecosystem

    • @gnoclaude7945
      @gnoclaude7945 2 года назад +6

      And racing, platformers, TPS, RTS, strategy games, 3rd person adventures, MMOs, oh and dungeon crawlers. But yes they do have the best fps and rpgs as well. Why buy a ps for 1 or 2 story games a year that are 8 hrs long. Half the 3rd party games just left PS now Bethesda, Activision, and the 10 other studios MS aquired. If Sony is smart they will let gamepass on so you could have the 1 to 2 Sony games a year and 10-12 MS games a year on one system. MS wants 200 million subs and Sony wants to lock people into it's plastic where they can charge for online, ask $70 a game, and take a 30% cut with no competition as they do not allow digital codes sold anywhere but PSN. Just my thoughts.

    • @CheezeRat
      @CheezeRat 2 года назад +4

      Exactly, this changes nothing for me. Still prefer the PlayStation because of the exclusives.

    • @david_alfonso1
      @david_alfonso1 2 года назад +2

      Don't forget platformers, after this buy out Microsoft will officially own Crash, Spyro and Skylanders. just look at the list Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Skylanders, Ori, Banjo Kazooie, Conker, Psychonauts. The studio 'Toys for Bob' will do more Crash Bandicoot, Spyro and Skylanders going forward and it won't surprise me if they also work on Banjo Kazooie and Conker.

    • @aminzarei8078
      @aminzarei8078 2 года назад +1

      Xbox desperately need 3ed person story driven games
      Plz Microsoft plz

  • @abdel1143
    @abdel1143 2 года назад +10

    Call of Duty will be Xbox exclusive when the contracts end. With Game Pass you save up to $600 every year. With that money buy every console and everyone can stop bashing

    • @Köennig
      @Köennig 2 года назад

      Cod sells monstrously in playstation, not to mention in game purchases. They're not throwing that money away.

    • @sheffield8184
      @sheffield8184 2 года назад +5

      @@Köennig they want you to buy an xbox of course its going xbox exclusive

    • @Köennig
      @Köennig 2 года назад

      @@sheffield8184 "of course is going exclusive"? What did Phil Spencer just said about it? Did he say it's going exclusive or that they will continue to have those games on the Sony platform? Inform yourself

    • @alexandrecl4331
      @alexandrecl4331 2 года назад +3

      @@Köennig Sony is not needed, Phil already said that. If they keep CoD multiplatform that will be because Microsoft wanted it, not because they had to. Everything will be on Xbox terms now.

    • @Mo-eh1bq
      @Mo-eh1bq 2 года назад

      @Always have been they're going to keep warzone on ps which makes sense but they're gonna make mainline cod a 2 year thing instead of annual and they're gonna be xbox console exclusive once sonys contract ends

  • @SpartanPR787
    @SpartanPR787 2 года назад +9

    Sony should buy Bandai Namco, Ubisoft, Capcom or Square Enix any of those companies to rise market rates

    • @DvdHwr
      @DvdHwr 2 года назад +4

      And Konami

    • @r9ckyru40
      @r9ckyru40 2 года назад +6

      Ubisoft has an exclusive deal with Xbox already

    • @sauceseji
      @sauceseji 2 года назад +3

      no not Ubisoft please.

    • @stevepoirier7174
      @stevepoirier7174 2 года назад

      sony cant afford any of those

    • @_NeverLate_
      @_NeverLate_ 2 года назад +2

      Microsoft will probably have an eye on ubisoft, ea and take two

  • @The_Champ97
    @The_Champ97 2 года назад +41

    This is the perfect time for PlayStation to comeback with PlayStation home!. This will keep them in the game and make a ton of money off of in game purchases

    • @Underthegun897
      @Underthegun897 2 года назад +6

      The PSONE group has a private server and a discord for these old games. PS Home is currently being worked on. They already have Motorstorm, Killzone 2, SOCOM Confrontation, Warhawk, Twisted Metal Black, WipeOut HD on their server up and available to play for free.

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k 2 года назад +5

      @@Underthegun897 not too many games on Home ...

    • @vavlixtu5232
      @vavlixtu5232 2 года назад +1

      but theres not too many games that people enjoy on ps home

    • @The_Champ97
      @The_Champ97 2 года назад

      @@vavlixtu5232 that was the old home. There's tons of ideas for a new and fresh ps home

  • @DanHey08
    @DanHey08 2 года назад +2

    Having all consoles, it’s nice to just sit back and enjoy ALL the content.

    • @d4rkrises807
      @d4rkrises807 2 года назад

      Even better just having a pc

    • @DanHey08
      @DanHey08 2 года назад +1

      @@d4rkrises807 got a PC too. All the love.

  • @ATOR9369
    @ATOR9369 2 года назад +6

    Maybe losing COD will push PlayStation to bring back Killzone. Give themselves an exclusive high performance MP FPS that can rival Halo and even COD.

    • @Lunacy_Phoenix
      @Lunacy_Phoenix 2 года назад

      Killzone is a DEAD franchise, and bringing it back would only read as a desperation move. Sony is a Japanese company, and the Japanese way of doing business is to save face and never admit a mistake or defeat. Also Killzone is just an INFERIOR FPS, Not just to CoD or Halo, but in general. Killzone games are Clunky, poorly balanced and designed dumpster fires. And a new entry wouldn't even be worth a tenth the hard drive space.

  • @karateffekt1106
    @karateffekt1106 2 года назад

    You should link the Poll in the description of these videos.

  • @DerrickL23
    @DerrickL23 2 года назад +11

    My dude is reaching for things to say about Sony content. Xbox with their Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard purchases have a slew of multimedia content in the pipeline. He mentioned Halo but failed to mention Fallout has a show coming out on Amazon while also failing to mention the Minecraft movie back by Warner Bros. Pictures coming out this year. They also now own Activision Blizzard Studios which was solely created to take their ips and turn them into film and tv hence the World of Warcraft movie, Skylanders academy Netflix show and the announced Call of Duty Film. This is not even mentioning the Gears movie thats been in development hell. To make it seem like Sony is distinguishing themselves that greatly from Microsoft by turning their games into multimedia is fools gold.

    • @jaynordiaz4609
      @jaynordiaz4609 2 года назад

      Eh, the difference is the fact that sony is doing it internally at their film studio. Microsoft has to go out and shop around for others to work on the project... so its not necessarily a 1 to 1.

    • @DerrickL23
      @DerrickL23 2 года назад

      @@jaynordiaz4609 Where was is stated it was 1 to 1 comparison and why would that difference even matter when the end result is the same ? The topic at hand is turning ips into multimedia and that is a forefront Microsoft has been exploring.. Hell Quantum Break had a full fledge show attached to it was big actors how many years ago ?

    • @MrKrishnadevotee
      @MrKrishnadevotee 2 года назад

      @@jaynordiaz4609 your argument is meaningless, Microsoft is just outplaying them at all angles

    • @jaynordiaz4609
      @jaynordiaz4609 2 года назад

      @@DerrickL23 the reason it matters is because sony doesn't have to shop around and sell rights to the films/share profits from the shows and movies like Microsoft does

    • @suryasishtalukdar210
      @suryasishtalukdar210 2 года назад

      @@jaynordiaz4609 well Microsoft isn't a media company

  • @brucejrfreeman7844
    @brucejrfreeman7844 2 года назад +7

    Ps5: Barely exists.
    Ign: Whats possibly going to happen to Ps6.

  • @migii820
    @migii820 2 года назад +6

    To that infinity gauntlet analogy. If iron man had the stones outside of the MCU circumstances with the snap. Guarantee you he would have made some dangerous choices with that power

  • @sickcarnagerequiem
    @sickcarnagerequiem 2 года назад +11

    Already talking about the ps6? The ps5 hasn’t even gained traction yet

    • @DoomTurkey83
      @DoomTurkey83 2 года назад +9

      @@Michael-sm3xg That nobody can get.

    • @Miguel-fo8lo
      @Miguel-fo8lo 2 года назад +2

      @@Michael-sm3xg guess ONE person got it...

    • @arjunpathak4582
      @arjunpathak4582 2 года назад +3

      @@Michael-sm3xg no need to be salty mate, its common knowledge that there is a mass ps5 shortage.

    • @t.o.p6849
      @t.o.p6849 2 года назад

      @@Michael-sm3xg With the majority of consoles being sold to scalpers.

    • @jeremyj7157
      @jeremyj7157 2 года назад +1

      There won't be a PS6, Playstation/Sony is done for.

  • @ModestMouseTrap
    @ModestMouseTrap 2 года назад +1

    Johnathan It’s Deviation games not Demolition.

  • @Ichsukatanuka
    @Ichsukatanuka 2 года назад +18

    The console war is already over, fair play to Phil and Microsoft on a giga chad move.

    • @86lanzo
      @86lanzo 2 года назад +8

      Microsoft not competing with Sony...they competing with Amazon,Google and tencent

    • @Donodabet
      @Donodabet 2 года назад

      @@Michael-sm3xg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @UNFITTED1
      @UNFITTED1 2 года назад

      Yes the console war is over....Microsoft just effectively made the Xbox series X irrelevant because gamepass is on many platforms making purchasing a Xbox unnecessary. Sony has sold way more consoles this next gen on limited supply than series S and X combined.

    • @roninenlightened6350
      @roninenlightened6350 2 года назад +1

      @@UNFITTED1 It doesn't matter if Microsoft sells its consoles. Their goal is to have as many gamepass ultimste subscribers for consistent long term profits.

    • @new-gengd2644
      @new-gengd2644 2 года назад

      @@Michael-sm3xg You failed to understand that Microsoft is not competing with Sony anymore you sound like a spoiled brat

  • @refracc
    @refracc 2 года назад +1

    People acting like COD is gonna be exclusive.

  • @yfndorsey1582
    @yfndorsey1582 2 года назад +6

    Neither of them asked themselves, wtf does Sony have up their sleeves for xbox to acquire a $68.7 billion acquisition.

    • @jmastah2375
      @jmastah2375 2 года назад +1

      Probably Spartacus. Microsoft wants to burry Sony's Subscription service before it's even here to make Game Pass the only viable option. Who knows? we might even see Game Pass in PlayStation in the future if Spartacus flops.
      Edit: Also at least half of the reason why Microsoft bought Activision at this time is because of the sickening things going on over there at Activision and it's the only way to push Bobby Kottick out of this industry.

  • @heisenbergwhite00
    @heisenbergwhite00 2 года назад +4

    Nintendo should be worried, they just lost most of the very little third-party support they had.

    • @ShadyDBZ4
      @ShadyDBZ4 2 года назад

      Nintendo will be just fine. I’m XBOX first, but I’ve been playing my Switch OLED a lot lately. Mainly for Metroid Dread. That bright vivid screen is a beast.

    • @DowuerSup
      @DowuerSup 2 года назад

      Yeah the problem with the Switch is that is Pure indie and Nintendo exclusives, That isn't a problem if you have a pc or other console thought.

    • @Adam-yi7gg
      @Adam-yi7gg 2 года назад

      Why should they?? People buy the switch for its exclusives and they sell millions. They dont buy it tonplay cod.

    • @heisenbergwhite00
      @heisenbergwhite00 2 года назад

      @@DowuerSup doom, spyro, crash were great sellers for the switch, it does present a big problem now that MS owns most of the third party games the switch had, doom, diablo, wolfestein, Overwatch, Skylanders, Tony hawk, spyro, crash Bandicoot and many others.

    • @heisenbergwhite00
      @heisenbergwhite00 2 года назад

      @@ShadyDBZ4 Nintendo should be worried, you playing the switch isn't going to change that

  • @gandhisan
    @gandhisan 2 года назад +9

    Just as reference Microsoft stock was ~30 in July 2012 vs ~300+ today.

  • @draken5379
    @draken5379 2 года назад +1

    Why do you think they renamed the pc version of game pass to PC game pass.

  • @MarioMadness1
    @MarioMadness1 2 года назад +7

    They'll make 70 billion back in no time !! Call of duty alone will make that in few years

    • @oror3751
      @oror3751 2 года назад +4

      Candy crash is the real money maker here actually

    • @viktorjonsson26
      @viktorjonsson26 2 года назад +2

      @@oror3751 candy crush is garbage

    • @Haters_Gunna_Hate
      @Haters_Gunna_Hate 2 года назад +3

      @@viktorjonsson26 doesn’t take from the fact that mobile games like that generate crazy amounts of money.

    • @prodj.mixapeofficial6431
      @prodj.mixapeofficial6431 2 года назад +3

      @@viktorjonsson26 that garbage beats Sony exclusives sake in any angle

    • @viktorjonsson26
      @viktorjonsson26 2 года назад +3

      @@prodj.mixapeofficial6431 nobody cares game's garbage, sony exclusives is art

  • @richief1957
    @richief1957 2 года назад +2

    Love this show keep it up lads

  • @rajupaari5162
    @rajupaari5162 2 года назад +9

    It is PS5notps6 change the title

  • @bakayaro117
    @bakayaro117 2 года назад +1

    A friend of mine who has never owned an Xbox just bought one the other day.

  • @TheFirstRealChewy
    @TheFirstRealChewy 2 года назад +12

    It will have an impact on Game Pass, and an even bigger impact for PC gaming. There are some great IP in this deal that seemed to have died. We know Xbox wants to improve their offering on PC, and it could mean all these studios can get to create the games they want to make instead of focusing only on Call of Duty. Steam gamers are going to rejoice.

    • @MixedMilk1
      @MixedMilk1 2 года назад +1

      gamepass on pc will be legit.

  • @lime187
    @lime187 2 года назад +1

    Dear IGN clam down on the RUclips adverts

  • @kbubuntu6048
    @kbubuntu6048 2 года назад +12

    The true question is who's going to acquire Sony playstation
    Apple
    Google
    Amazon
    Pick you're winner

    • @TheElitistSavage
      @TheElitistSavage 2 года назад +2

      Apple

    • @pax_sxprano
      @pax_sxprano 2 года назад +7

      Microsoft...?

    • @ShadyDBZ4
      @ShadyDBZ4 2 года назад

      Microsoft will by all those listed and rule the world. 😬

    • @kbubuntu6048
      @kbubuntu6048 2 года назад +6

      @@Michael-sm3xg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep dreaming

    • @ktdagoat1289
      @ktdagoat1289 2 года назад

      Netflix..

  • @sobewisdom
    @sobewisdom 2 года назад

    With so many leaks in the digital age, how did no one sniff this out before the bombshell drop?

  • @blade5883
    @blade5883 2 года назад +5

    Crash and COD Xbox exclusive 🔥🔥🔥

    • @blade5883
      @blade5883 2 года назад +3

      @@Michael-sm3xg ps fanboy spotted lol

    • @blade5883
      @blade5883 2 года назад +3

      @@Michael-sm3xgCry ps fanboy lol COD still sells more than those 2 ps exclusives combined lmao

    • @TheJoker1904
      @TheJoker1904 2 года назад

      @@Michael-sm3xg you realise the GOTY awards have only been going for 8 years and Sony has only won 2 GOTY awards and Activision Blizzard has 2 aswell not to mention Bethesda has 1 aswell.. So saying they won't match PS GOTY games clearly they can match it 😂😂

  • @robato3991
    @robato3991 2 года назад +1

    Without consoles neither xbox or ps would feel like real places to play video games. Imagine christmas without consoles, just redeem cards.

  • @AndreFreitas91250
    @AndreFreitas91250 2 года назад +5

    The next gen is going to be the PS6, since the current gen is already the PS5. So technically the title is correct :P

    • @Dushhh
      @Dushhh 2 года назад +1

      that's still a long way ahead
      they went too ahead in the future XD

    • @pax_sxprano
      @pax_sxprano 2 года назад +1

      Nobody even has ps5 or series x yet

  • @MigoMacayan
    @MigoMacayan 2 года назад

    not really sold on the cloud gaming direction / future, at the current state most people can't even have a stable / proper connection in the majority of multiplayer games, and also look at what happened to stadia

  • @antonc2180
    @antonc2180 2 года назад +5

    The birth of Gamepass announcement arguably changed the industry more than this Activision/Bliz announcement

    • @AllThingsInfamous1
      @AllThingsInfamous1 2 года назад +1

      Nah Nintendo changed the industry more than that rental service did.

  • @stephenirizarry6500
    @stephenirizarry6500 2 года назад +1

    Vanguard had a rocky launch too it’s not cool forcing people to come play on Xbox it should up to the gamer on what platform they want to play on but a lot can change in a year from now

  • @AdelaideBen1
    @AdelaideBen1 2 года назад +9

    Please Dornbush - stop talking about F2P as being a playstation strength. These are multiplat..... its embarrassing

  • @adrianperez4300
    @adrianperez4300 2 года назад +2

    Simple fix without watching the video...buy a ps5 or ps6 if we go that far and a pc...now you can play all the games

    • @danielmoung9098
      @danielmoung9098 2 года назад

      How is that a simple fix when the ps5 is still so hard to find in stores?

  • @maruca3457
    @maruca3457 2 года назад +5

    What's to keep Microsoft and Sony coming to an agreement and allowing Gamepass accessible on Playstation

    • @josht5453
      @josht5453 2 года назад +2

      1. Sony would never allow it
      2. Microsoft doesnt want to? In a few years time everyone in their mother will be switching to xbox.
      Xbox ruled the world from 2003-2012. Playstation took back over the last 10 years. Its gunna switch back.
      Microsoft will be patient and wait for sony players to flock over to their ecosystem and bleed somy dry

    • @thetraveler2224
      @thetraveler2224 2 года назад +5

      @@josht5453 Your claim about every body switching to Xbox in a few years shows arrogance.

    • @haychgaming8326
      @haychgaming8326 2 года назад +2

      @@josht5453 PS2 is the highest selling console of all time and you are saying that Xbox ruled that generation ? Also PS3 sold more units than Xbox 360, so idk where this "Ruled the world" idea is coming from. If Nintendo hasn't been bled dry yet then neither will Sony. They operate in their own lane and cater to a niche audience as much as the mainstream. Even now if you combine Activision revenue and Xbox revenue they are STILL behind Sony and Tencent as far as gaming revenue goes. Sony and Nintendo have an identity to them, Xbox is just the cheapest place to play.

    • @reach5589
      @reach5589 2 года назад

      @@josht5453 pretty sure the ps3 outsold the 360. And the ps2 is the highest selling console of all time

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL 2 года назад +1

      @@josht5453
      Wrong.
      MS absolutely wants gamepass on PlayStation. It's the biggest console audience. Sony won't allow it.
      Xbox did not rule the world 2003-2012. They have always come last.

  • @dextercampbell796
    @dextercampbell796 2 года назад

    Let me just state one thing.. Half of us, if not, most of us haven't even got a hold of the PlayStation 5, and there's already a mention of a PlayStation 6.. I am so weak right now 💀😭

  • @elgreco502
    @elgreco502 2 года назад +4

    As far as the question goes...Everyone in the world that has a gaming pc its pretty much irrelevant what happened.There is no need at all to buy an Xbox if u have a gaming pc.

  • @kordman916
    @kordman916 2 года назад

    Are the guys on the left and right attempting to blink TORTURE in morse code?

  • @cab8887
    @cab8887 2 года назад +6

    Maybe now we will get a world of Warcraft singleplayer 3rd person experience

  • @marcov4190
    @marcov4190 2 года назад +2

    Monopoly of the industry means only one thing... The end of gaming.

  • @solidussnake0079
    @solidussnake0079 2 года назад +7

    Sony needs to buy capcom

    • @sheffield8184
      @sheffield8184 2 года назад

      Not really worth it tho only decent game they make is resident evil songs first party games are a lot better

    • @m.h.4907
      @m.h.4907 2 года назад +2

      @@sheffield8184??? Resident Evil just sold 8 million copies while Monster Hunter World sold 20 million copies....

    • @Mo-eh1bq
      @Mo-eh1bq 2 года назад

      Capcom aren't for sale so no hostile take overs are bad. Zenimax and activision blizzard were selling due to some struggles so Microsoft bought them which is fair

  • @killablue1279
    @killablue1279 2 года назад

    Phil Spencer: ...so I'm assembling a team.
    *cue Avengers theme*

  • @lazyreuvin
    @lazyreuvin 2 года назад +14

    Bethesda managers kicking themselves for not holding out for more money haha 🤣

    • @ktdagoat1289
      @ktdagoat1289 2 года назад +1

      They couldn't have gotten a 3rd of what Acti got even if they released Starfield before acquisition and it was a hit.. They dont have annual or bi annual IP thats 1# in sales every release or a leading MMO like WoW or a multibillion dollar money making mobile company like King..

  • @rayparker7935
    @rayparker7935 2 года назад

    Hopefully they'll fix all call of dutys online glitches

  • @skylerssupercarlife348
    @skylerssupercarlife348 2 года назад +8

    Sony out here trying to force Microsoft to keep COD on there consoles. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @paulrose464
    @paulrose464 2 года назад +1

    half of us still can’t get are hands on a Xbox series X two years later

    • @pNastyy
      @pNastyy 2 года назад +1

      It's easier than a PS5

  • @LuzDaMata
    @LuzDaMata 2 года назад +6

    Activision Blizzard is an amazing acquisition to convert PC players to game pass. It will help their console, but PC players/fps players are going to gather.

  • @moodurr13
    @moodurr13 2 года назад +1

    To answer that question - at the end: no it doesn't but it does make me want Gamepass though

  • @clinthives
    @clinthives 2 года назад +4

    1:51 I've always hate his arrogance. 😒

  • @deandavies8758
    @deandavies8758 2 года назад

    It said dying liggt 2 us out it is not out until 4 feb wtf

  • @blacklightburns100
    @blacklightburns100 2 года назад +27

    We are slowly going to “ Playstation has no games”

  • @athag1
    @athag1 2 года назад

    Do you guys think that the deal will be approved? surely such monopolies would be blocked?

  • @lukeigi7261
    @lukeigi7261 2 года назад +8

    I’m worried since Microsoft can become the Disney of video games buying 3rd party developers and making them exclusives

    • @blade5883
      @blade5883 2 года назад +10

      You a ps fanboy?

    • @johnnymcclain4100
      @johnnymcclain4100 2 года назад +18

      Buy an Xbox. That’s what ps fans told us to do was buy a ps. Don’t be worried now.

    • @skylerssupercarlife348
      @skylerssupercarlife348 2 года назад +3

      You wouldn't be worried if you had game pass 🤷‍♂️

    • @m.h.4907
      @m.h.4907 2 года назад +4

      @@johnnymcclain4100 awesome. Love your response. Years they told everyone to just buy a PS to play the games, now they swallow their own medicine and cry like babies

  • @coreyjackson3462
    @coreyjackson3462 2 года назад

    Ya got a typo in the title.

  • @MariNate1016
    @MariNate1016 2 года назад +3

    Phil Spencer announced yesterday cod will continue to be on PlayStation which makes sense. No matter who plays cod Microsoft will make money. If PlayStation users buy it then they get bread. If Xbox people use gamepass which will have it day 1 for free, they get bread. If pc play it’ll be on gamepass, they get bread.
    My biggest concern is whether or not titles like spyro, crash, prototype and others will be brought back finally. Also hopefully this will push Sony to make some acquisitions like bandai namco, squaresoft, etc

    • @ThePunk01
      @ThePunk01 2 года назад +2

      He said existing titles will stay on playstation and they'll honor the contracts that Sony and Activision had.
      That says nothing about future titles. We have no idea what those contracts are. MW5 or Black Ops 8 (whatever) would most likely be xbox and gamepass only, but Warzone will stay multiplatform.

    • @felipesantos-er4kk
      @felipesantos-er4kk 2 года назад +3

      So inocent, did you forget Zenimax acquisition? 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @MariNate1016
      @MariNate1016 2 года назад

      @@felipesantos-er4kk different situation

  • @NotAsianButFlip
    @NotAsianButFlip 2 года назад

    Guy on the left is basically every playstation lover right now lol

  • @modiddymo
    @modiddymo 2 года назад +3

    The seven of us who enjoy Blizzard games on macOS are like 😢

    • @AwwwBeanz
      @AwwwBeanz 2 года назад +2

      You can stream game pass through a browser, as long as your internet is better than decent.

  • @bruceboristhrash
    @bruceboristhrash 2 года назад

    Is Dorno wearing an A&W uniform??????

  • @patrickmusson4571
    @patrickmusson4571 2 года назад +4

    It's over. Sony will have to be content with the studios they have right now because if there is even a scintilla of interest in an independent studio that they are interested in buying, Microsoft will swoop in and buy it from under Sony's nose. This will happen again and again and again until there are no studios left. After that, Microsoft will probably set its sights on Nintendo. What I'm seeing now makes me really sad, depressed, and sickened.

    • @thetraveler2224
      @thetraveler2224 2 года назад +2

      You know what that creates? A monopoly. They got sued in 2001 because of them becoming a monopoly.

    • @patrickmusson4571
      @patrickmusson4571 2 года назад

      @@thetraveler2224 Precisely! The Netscape fiasco proves that Microsoft has learned nothing and will continue to push the envelope t if nothing more than to see what they can get away with. They have no morals and no business ethics.