Hey! I have a good trick for reviving them. I usually fill up the dried cups with water and let them sit for a day or two. I then mix in the water into the gouache. They tend to be very watery so I let them sit in the sun for a big and they tend to thicken up as the water evaporates. Add some glycerin or gum Arabic so the paints to dry up quicker and they work good as new. No clumping and no weird inconsistencies! ALSO I highly recommend Arteza’s tube gouache. Those are really really really good and they are cheap!
Just pour water (with a drop of alcohol in if you're worried about mould) into the containers. Put the lid on, put it inside a ziplock bag and wait 2-3 days. Come back, stir each one with a tooth pick and voila, you're done. Pro-tip: Store them in the ziplock bag and you'll never have to do this again. The logic of 'now they have 25% water in them' is off because you're forgetting that they're dried up because all the water that was in them has evaporated. You're not adding water, you're putting it back in.
This is a very cheap quality of paint for Chinese art examination. those students finish the whole box in a week, they paint thick layer and the painting dries like plaster. you can add some honey in each color and it won't dry very fast and broken, also easier to reactive.
As a few others have, I would also recommend mixing in a bit of gum arabic/ watercolor binder! It really helps keep the moisture in and gives it more body. I've also seen people use honey for the same thing but also to deter mold? Mine are drying out a bit too and that was my plan on reviving them. Miya also does sell their gouache in tubes!
Love the painting so much! You can't tell just by looking at it that it was such a struggle. About the jelly gouache it really is a hassle. I went from having to spend hours reviving them to then a few months later one of the paints getting moldy. So finally I decided to start investing in tube paints because it just seems so much faster and less complicated to work with them.
I recommend using not much water because if it's too watered down it may be hard to get it very opaque. I also replaced some of the water with glycerin to keep the jelly consistency and added a bit of gardening antimildew agent (a tiny tiny bit per cup)
I feel like I also outgrowed himi miya gouache because I used reeves gouache tube paints. They were so much simpler to use and the colors do not get muddy so fast. Naturally, I abandoned it now overall but I still had fun with it so that counts! 😁😆
okay so I've had my palette for a couple years, at first i was really focused on maintaining it with water and mixing weekly, like the people in the videos do. then life got away from me and i forgot for a while and my palette dried fully, it was solid. now i use it like you would use watercolor half pans, and it's still an enjoyable process, but if i need to do something important (say i just designed a cover for a friend's book) I'll use my arteza tube gouache.
I was also getting tired of my jelly gouache and I love acrylic gouache so I tried the Turner acryl student set (around 35$ for a 24 set of tubes if you get a good deal on Amazon). I find it to be very comparable to Holbein but at a “sketchbook” price. Not sure if they have pure gouache, however… Loved the piece as always!
i've done this and my advice is to put a lot of water on them and leave them overnight, the next day you stir and it's much softer and easier it took me like half an hour to revive them all after that some were dryer than others tho
As far as affordable "sketchbook quality" gouache i kinda like the schminke akademie designer gouache. For higher range ones i really like the lefranc and bourgeois "linel" line. Not sure they're accessible for purchase outside of France but damn is it the best quality paint i ever had the pleasure to work with (at least when it comes to gouache).
I separated a little of that gouache in a small palette, they dried like rocks, it took me a thousand years to revive them, but the main palette as it has a foam seal is still juicy, as prevention, I put a little distilled water mixed with 10% alcohol, to avoid drying and mold, I think it is an option to keep them working as long as possible, also the colors are not contaminated
i got the 12 set of 15 ml holbein gouache which is on amazon for about 60 dollars and wow compared to my W&N gouache they are just smoother and so vibrant
I use W&N, Holbein and da vince gouache. I would recommend Da Vinci gouache though they are more affordable and come in larger tubes they are good quality pretty comparable with W&N and Holbein they might be not as opaque though
Oh I've long been over Jelly Gouache. It's good if you're a beginner but i t's not properly lightfast, its not got a great pigment load and is a bit more chalky for my taste. The "jelly cup" style and quality was originally meant for Chinese art students who sit and paint a ton during exams and actually use the paint up really fast. You shouldn't feel bad for dropping it when it's simply that you've moved beyond the need for low cost, student grade materials and need something better quality. Holbein definitely isn't as cost effective but I cannot recommend it enough - I'm so happy with the quality of it.
i say yay because all the foliage is really well done 😀 yeah they usually go mouldy because the lid is closed before they have a chance to dry i dont have a bike to ride, and even if i did i would fall right on my face lol😝
Imma be honest I rehydrated my set as well I just left them open so some of the water evaporates out but they lose quality over time it really sucks because you have to use them quickly or they go bad.
I’ve seen the artist daixykaren use an electric mixing tool for their jelly gouache paint. (It has like a square whisk thing. Idk how to describe it but it’s on Amazon for like $10) I’ve been struggling with this for the last few months and it didn’t even cross my mind that the paints might have gone bad. I’m saving up to get some prof quality paints. Even with your struggles with this paints, your final painting looks amazing!! 🤩
I use an unbent metal paper clip and I remove the rubber part. I can hold the still bent part and it helps with the cramping. Also, since it's metal, it doesn't absorb paint and you can reuse infinitely .
Heyy, id deffo recommend trying glycerol or gum arabic to help the body of the paint return as ive seen a few ppl do that before... id also say about the mould situation is that it depends on the humidity in where you live i think as the people ive seen with it tend to live in humid areas so if you havent experienced this like me then your area might be fine to house them ( i spray mine with water every 3 weeks) that has worked for me... hope this helps xx Also if youre looking for tube gouache i cannot recommend the arteza ones enough i absolutely love them, for me theyre better than the jelly gouache and the colour range is good too especially as you can make several limited palettes xx
I also tried reviving my jelly gouache! Mine was about as dried out as yours so I thought about rewetting it, but saw the comments about mold. Mold is really bad news for me because of my health issues, so instead of risking it I let the palette fully dry out. It's . . . mostly functional? It works like a giant watercolor pan and you can still get saturated/non watered down color, but I had the same issue with layers reactivating easier. I've been using it mostly for simple landscapes or color studies
hey have you you tired adding some gum arabic or glycerin to help the paints consistently ps I doubt you’ll see this but if you do I do use Winsor Newton, holbein, and uretech(idk how to spell it) gouache & they’re all pretty similar I would recommend uretch gouache if you want some cheap tube gouache they compare really well to other gouache
This is always been the biggest thing keeping me from buying these sets of jelly gouche. Unless you're using it every day and finishing the paint quickly, it's just a hassle and will dry up so quick. I jump around mediums and just know that my jelly gouche would get completely dried and crappy. I use the Lukas Studio tube gouche and even if you don't use it for over a year it stays creamy and nice. Pretty sure that it's a student paint but I haven't got any complaints about it
i feel you!! it has so many great qualities but for some people it just doesn't work, and i feel like i'm getting to that point hahaaha. i will definitely check out the lukas gouache, thank you!!
I personally really like Holbien Acrylagouache and for where I live they're almost always on sale and they have sets that you can buy so they're cheaper per tube. I haven't run into any issues with them but since they are acrylagouache, they don't reactivate once dry. It's more like a matte acrylic
I’ve been using W&N gouache and I quite like it, but I can’t find anywhere that sells it here anymore so I’ll need to look for something different. Jelly gouache looks great and I’ve seen plenty of artists make great things with it, but it takes away most of the easy and practical aspect of the gouache setup I love so much! Anyways, your painting still turned out great, and I have been really enjoying these bonus videos🥰
Kuddos on you for trying to mix them as long as you did! Mine were in a similar dried situation (and also not really working as fun as they were) and I also had to mix like 30 minutes after soaking several for a bit .... I hope you're able ot find a form of gouache you like, maybe combination with the methods described under here
I've seen some people let the water set for multiple days and add a couple drops of glycerin so the paint could slowly absorb the water. Its could be the the pigment isn't properly dispersed in the water.
I never really understood how this method didn't seem to mess up the paint consistency in other videos :D i wonder if adding some gum arabica would change the deal , in my head that makes sense i basically have zero experience with gouache, so i recently got a pack of 12 tubes, Talens Art Creation it was affordable and the reviews were good
All the substances that create the unique qualities of jelly gouache are in the paint, wet or dry. All you're doing is re-adding the water that has evaporated. So you're not changing the consistency, you're reanimating it.
@@Lilstarnerd i heard in a review a long ass time ago, that ( i think) winsor&newton formulated their tube watercolors to perform worse when reactivated with water, than the half pan watercolors, to not make it easy for a substitute. That's where my opinion came from 🤷 makes sense for them monetarily 💸
I was also fooled by PricklyAlpaca’s gouche video… i totally thought “hey, i can do this too”… alas, it was all a lie! That alpaca is trixy and false, I tell ya! It took me DAYS to revive my jelly gouache. I have never questioned my life choices more. Lol. I’m glad you survived. I also use liquitex acrylic gouache and have been longing to try out Holbein Acrylagouche. Thanks for sharing the bonus video - your art is always a pleasure to watch.
I am guessing atmospheres (humidity, temp, dryness) and water quality may contribute to different outcomes when stale?.. I enjoy watching you work! Did you get another gouache palette? How did it go for you?
oh my GOD, i have the same jelly gouache and ive had it for not even 2 years and god they are dry as hell. and i just dread having to revive them lmao. but i still use them and spray them sometimes. but they just end up being like watercolors sort of, cuz of the consistency not being great. OOF
I've tried reviving mine at the same dried-up stage and they were definitely more undead than alive after that 😅 Speaking of cheaper gouache, if it's available in US, have you tried Art Creation\Royal Talens?
Hey! I have a good trick for reviving them. I usually fill up the dried cups with water and let them sit for a day or two. I then mix in the water into the gouache. They tend to be very watery so I let them sit in the sun for a big and they tend to thicken up as the water evaporates. Add some glycerin or gum Arabic so the paints to dry up quicker and they work good as new. No clumping and no weird inconsistencies! ALSO I highly recommend Arteza’s tube gouache. Those are really really really good and they are cheap!
*frantically runs to spray jelly gouache*
Just pour water (with a drop of alcohol in if you're worried about mould) into the containers. Put the lid on, put it inside a ziplock bag and wait 2-3 days. Come back, stir each one with a tooth pick and voila, you're done. Pro-tip: Store them in the ziplock bag and you'll never have to do this again. The logic of 'now they have 25% water in them' is off because you're forgetting that they're dried up because all the water that was in them has evaporated. You're not adding water, you're putting it back in.
This is a very cheap quality of paint for Chinese art examination. those students finish the whole box in a week, they paint thick layer and the painting dries like plaster.
you can add some honey in each color and it won't dry very fast and broken, also easier to reactive.
As a few others have, I would also recommend mixing in a bit of gum arabic/ watercolor binder! It really helps keep the moisture in and gives it more body. I've also seen people use honey for the same thing but also to deter mold? Mine are drying out a bit too and that was my plan on reviving them. Miya also does sell their gouache in tubes!
Love the painting so much! You can't tell just by looking at it that it was such a struggle. About the jelly gouache it really is a hassle. I went from having to spend hours reviving them to then a few months later one of the paints getting moldy. So finally I decided to start investing in tube paints because it just seems so much faster and less complicated to work with them.
I recommend using not much water because if it's too watered down it may be hard to get it very opaque. I also replaced some of the water with glycerin to keep the jelly consistency and added a bit of gardening antimildew agent (a tiny tiny bit per cup)
I feel like I also outgrowed himi miya gouache because I used reeves gouache tube paints. They were so much simpler to use and the colors do not get muddy so fast. Naturally, I abandoned it now overall but I still had fun with it so that counts! 😁😆
okay so I've had my palette for a couple years, at first i was really focused on maintaining it with water and mixing weekly, like the people in the videos do. then life got away from me and i forgot for a while and my palette dried fully, it was solid. now i use it like you would use watercolor half pans, and it's still an enjoyable process, but if i need to do something important (say i just designed a cover for a friend's book) I'll use my arteza tube gouache.
I was also getting tired of my jelly gouache and I love acrylic gouache so I tried the Turner acryl student set (around 35$ for a 24 set of tubes if you get a good deal on Amazon). I find it to be very comparable to Holbein but at a “sketchbook” price. Not sure if they have pure gouache, however…
Loved the piece as always!
regarding moldy pallets, I can recommend using distilled water :)
Or add a drop of alcohol to your water if distilled is unavailable
@@RhomanysRealm does it matter what type of alcohol you use?
i've done this and my advice is to put a lot of water on them and leave them overnight, the next day you stir and it's much softer and easier it took me like half an hour to revive them all after that some were dryer than others tho
use distilled water to avoid the mold issue. the turner gouache both the acryl and regular are excellent quality at a very good price point.
I soaked (soaked) mine for a few days with a combination of water, glycerin, and clove oil. You have to let it sit for a few days until it softens.
As far as affordable "sketchbook quality" gouache i kinda like the schminke akademie designer gouache. For higher range ones i really like the lefranc and bourgeois "linel" line. Not sure they're accessible for purchase outside of France but damn is it the best quality paint i ever had the pleasure to work with (at least when it comes to gouache).
oooh i will definitely look into those, thank you!!
I separated a little of that gouache in a small palette, they dried like rocks, it took me a thousand years to revive them, but the main palette as it has a foam seal is still juicy, as prevention, I put a little distilled water mixed with 10% alcohol, to avoid drying and mold, I think it is an option to keep them working as long as possible, also the colors are not contaminated
If your set was this bad, I don’t wanna even look at mine, it’s been hiding in a drawer for maybe a year now untouched. 😅
Mine is over a year and they looked fine (some were dried af some were fine) and now they are revived and ready to use 💙
i got the 12 set of 15 ml holbein gouache which is on amazon for about 60 dollars and wow compared to my W&N gouache they are just smoother and so vibrant
i love holbein!! that's what i use for seirous paintings and commissions, and they are AMAZING!!
I use W&N, Holbein and da vince gouache. I would recommend Da Vinci gouache though they are more affordable and come in larger tubes they are good quality pretty comparable with W&N and Holbein they might be not as opaque though
ooh great tip, thank you!!
Oh I've long been over Jelly Gouache. It's good if you're a beginner but i t's not properly lightfast, its not got a great pigment load and is a bit more chalky for my taste. The "jelly cup" style and quality was originally meant for Chinese art students who sit and paint a ton during exams and actually use the paint up really fast. You shouldn't feel bad for dropping it when it's simply that you've moved beyond the need for low cost, student grade materials and need something better quality. Holbein definitely isn't as cost effective but I cannot recommend it enough - I'm so happy with the quality of it.
this is great to know, thank you! i’ve always wondered why the packaging design is as is because they dry out really fast even when ‘closed.’
i say yay because all the foliage is really well done 😀
yeah they usually go mouldy because the lid is closed before they have a chance to dry
i dont have a bike to ride, and even if i did i would fall right on my face lol😝
Imma be honest I rehydrated my set as well I just left them open so some of the water evaporates out but they lose quality over time it really sucks because you have to use them quickly or they go bad.
I’ve seen the artist daixykaren use an electric mixing tool for their jelly gouache paint. (It has like a square whisk thing. Idk how to describe it but it’s on Amazon for like $10) I’ve been struggling with this for the last few months and it didn’t even cross my mind that the paints might have gone bad. I’m saving up to get some prof quality paints. Even with your struggles with this paints, your final painting looks amazing!! 🤩
It's an electric milk frother. You can get them for pretty cheap and a lot of people use them for paint mixing.
I use an unbent metal paper clip and I remove the rubber part. I can hold the still bent part and it helps with the cramping. Also, since it's metal, it doesn't absorb paint and you can reuse infinitely .
Heyy, id deffo recommend trying glycerol or gum arabic to help the body of the paint return as ive seen a few ppl do that before... id also say about the mould situation is that it depends on the humidity in where you live i think as the people ive seen with it tend to live in humid areas so if you havent experienced this like me then your area might be fine to house them ( i spray mine with water every 3 weeks) that has worked for me... hope this helps xx
Also if youre looking for tube gouache i cannot recommend the arteza ones enough i absolutely love them, for me theyre better than the jelly gouache and the colour range is good too especially as you can make several limited palettes xx
Some people will spray their palette with a ratio of like 80/20 of water and rubbing alcohol to keep their paint moist and also keep mold away
I also tried reviving my jelly gouache! Mine was about as dried out as yours so I thought about rewetting it, but saw the comments about mold. Mold is really bad news for me because of my health issues, so instead of risking it I let the palette fully dry out.
It's . . . mostly functional? It works like a giant watercolor pan and you can still get saturated/non watered down color, but I had the same issue with layers reactivating easier. I've been using it mostly for simple landscapes or color studies
i definitely don't blame you for wanting to avoid the mold!! using it like a watercolor palette seems like a great idea though!!!!
Reviving my set as I watch this. XD Did you find some tube Gouache that you liked?
these are literally SO SATISFYING! Keep up the good work ❤❤❤
hey have you you tired adding some gum arabic or glycerin to help the paints consistently ps I doubt you’ll see this but if you do I do use Winsor Newton, holbein, and uretech(idk how to spell it) gouache & they’re all pretty similar I would recommend uretch gouache if you want some cheap tube gouache they compare really well to other gouache
This is always been the biggest thing keeping me from buying these sets of jelly gouche. Unless you're using it every day and finishing the paint quickly, it's just a hassle and will dry up so quick. I jump around mediums and just know that my jelly gouche would get completely dried and crappy.
I use the Lukas Studio tube gouche and even if you don't use it for over a year it stays creamy and nice. Pretty sure that it's a student paint but I haven't got any complaints about it
i feel you!! it has so many great qualities but for some people it just doesn't work, and i feel like i'm getting to that point hahaaha. i will definitely check out the lukas gouache, thank you!!
I personally really like Holbien Acrylagouache and for where I live they're almost always on sale and they have sets that you can buy so they're cheaper per tube. I haven't run into any issues with them but since they are acrylagouache, they don't reactivate once dry. It's more like a matte acrylic
oooh thank you!! i know everyone loves that stuff, i have to try it!!
I’ve been using W&N gouache and I quite like it, but I can’t find anywhere that sells it here anymore so I’ll need to look for something different. Jelly gouache looks great and I’ve seen plenty of artists make great things with it, but it takes away most of the easy and practical aspect of the gouache setup I love so much!
Anyways, your painting still turned out great, and I have been really enjoying these bonus videos🥰
himi makes tube gouache too, but it has kind of this same issue of drying to be hard as a rock inside the tube.
was there for the livestream where you mentioned this =D people usually spray them and let them sit overnight to make it easier haha
msgicfly tube guache is very good its what i use and ive never had a problem with it
yeah i definitely figured that out after the first day lmaoooooooo
Kuddos on you for trying to mix them as long as you did! Mine were in a similar dried situation (and also not really working as fun as they were) and I also had to mix like 30 minutes after soaking several for a bit .... I hope you're able ot find a form of gouache you like, maybe combination with the methods described under here
thank you so much!!!
I've seen some people let the water set for multiple days and add a couple drops of glycerin so the paint could slowly absorb the water. Its could be the the pigment isn't properly dispersed in the water.
ooooh thats's smart!!
I never really understood how this method didn't seem to mess up the paint consistency in other videos :D i wonder if adding some gum arabica would change the deal , in my head that makes sense
i basically have zero experience with gouache, so i recently got a pack of 12 tubes, Talens Art Creation
it was affordable and the reviews were good
All the substances that create the unique qualities of jelly gouache are in the paint, wet or dry. All you're doing is re-adding the water that has evaporated. So you're not changing the consistency, you're reanimating it.
idk i feel like i definitely changed the consistency lol. even if you're just re-adding water, you're not guaranteed to get the right ratio
@@Lilstarnerd i heard in a review a long ass time ago, that ( i think) winsor&newton formulated their tube watercolors to perform worse when reactivated with water, than the half pan watercolors, to not make it easy for a substitute. That's where my opinion came from 🤷 makes sense for them monetarily 💸
I just watched your livestream in which you mentioned this video!!
sad I missed the stream, but at least now I'm early lol
I was also fooled by PricklyAlpaca’s gouche video… i totally thought “hey, i can do this too”… alas, it was all a lie! That alpaca is trixy and false, I tell ya! It took me DAYS to revive my jelly gouache. I have never questioned my life choices more. Lol. I’m glad you survived. I also use liquitex acrylic gouache and have been longing to try out Holbein Acrylagouche. Thanks for sharing the bonus video - your art is always a pleasure to watch.
OH GOD SAME!! the entire time i kept thinking "why am i doing this??? i should stop" but i was too far in so i had to keep going!!
I am guessing atmospheres (humidity, temp, dryness) and water quality may contribute to different outcomes when stale?.. I enjoy watching you work! Did you get another gouache palette? How did it go for you?
I use the arteza gouache and I quite like it, but I’m not super experienced with different gouaches
Thank you very much, I should do this whit mine too... bevor they get that kracked
oh my GOD, i have the same jelly gouache and ive had it for not even 2 years and god they are dry as hell. and i just dread having to revive them lmao. but i still use them and spray them sometimes. but they just end up being like watercolors sort of, cuz of the consistency not being great. OOF
I've tried reviving mine at the same dried-up stage and they were definitely more undead than alive after that 😅 Speaking of cheaper gouache, if it's available in US, have you tried Art Creation\Royal Talens?
i haven't, i will look into it!! thank you!!
Wow u just MADE THAT… ☀️✨
I'd buy a new himi gouache set since they're not expensive.