What I really like about your style is that you present information in a very respectful, down to earth, nonjudgmental way. You have your own views on religion after leaving Watchtower, but you don't push your mindset on anyone or come off critical, realizing everyone is different and has the right to choose a path that helps them personally. Thank you for your great content!👏🙏
Thank you for the tips man. I'm 20, a ministerial servant and Its been 3 months since I became PIMO here in the Philippines. I'm already doing my research (thanks to jw facts) and watching your vids (I do agree with you that humour is one of the best ways to heal) This cult has made me socially inept (because of all the fakeness that they're always potraying while socializing with people) and it has been ingrained in me that wordly people are bad influence so I'm feeling a little bit uncomfortable writing this comment but I'm aware that with enough practice, I can make new friends outside of this cult. This is my first time commenting/interacting on exjw videos so I believe this is one step to path of recovery Sorry if my english is bad
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
i am not exjw myself but you are certainly taking great first steps!! the isolation JWs experience seems worse than other high demand religions, as you mentioned it is very discourage to talk to outsiders. you are doing great, keep your mind open
i was in your shoes a few years ago. i just recently started publicly commenting on exjw videos bc i just don’t care anymore and i think it’s more important to talk about my experiences with others in a similar place. i’m proud of you man
You can’t have honest interactions with either JWs or non JWs because if you have questions you’ll be tattled on or abandoned. I’m still trying to find out why JWs hate evolution and the most I ever get from them is that ignorant inaccurate publication you have. I KNOW it’s inaccurate because I’ve actually evolved short lived organisms in the lab myself .
Excellent video Panda 🐼 Thank you!! My mother's favorite thing to say is, "Apostates aren't happy. They're miserable." She doesn't know any apostates... never even watched a video! So, it's a riot she thinks that. 😆 🤣 I know where she got that though. It's not her own thought.
It's amazing what JWs parrot just because WT says it, without ever doing research on their own to determine if what they've been told is actually true.
I have personally never been a JW myself, but I have a lot of respect for ex-JW's. It takes a lot of courage and bravery to leave your religion and be willing to tolerate shunning from your family and friends. I can kinda relate as well, since I was raised Fund. Christian and young earth creationist, although I'm still in the PIMO phase... So I get how difficult it can be to talk about this stuff and go through this questioning phase, especially in a high control group such as JWs. Good luck to all of you on your own journey, and I hope you achieve success and happiness outside this cult
Good luck to you on your personal life journey also. High control is high control, regardless of the faction or denomination, sounds like you need just as much bravery, courage & support as any of us in the xJW community.
I left this religion a year ago today when I almost took my life because of the horrible treatment. Born and raised in it I’m much happier but of course leaving comes with consequences. We all know what I mean.
You’re not alone even though it might feel that way. You’re really brave for living what you believe is true, and not just going along living a lie out of convenience. It might feel like there’s nothing left after leaving but believe me things get so much better you just gotta keep going👍🏽
Si le cose migliorano il tempo e una buona medicina, dopo che sono partito ,ho capito che non sarei piu tornato e che non avevo bisogno di questa religione dopo fatto le mie ricerche i siti apostati mi hanno molto aiutato ,oro vivo benissimo gia da qualche anno ,l'unico mio desiderio e svegliare molti che realmente sono delle brave personi, e vittime della Watchtower. Da L'italia saluti.
Oh dear I give hugs also your not alone either cause I left Christianity for personal reasons. However Vrchat made me heal and made my own religion. I highly recommend Vrchat or any social platforms cause they might help ❤. Remember everything will be ok and leaving religion can be very hard. Hugs from Georgia USA
You are definitely not alone. After leaving (I faded for the sake of my parents, otherwise I would have disassociated), I actually apologised to my DF’d cousin & his wife for participating in their toxic & manipulative shunning techniques. So I’m so sorry you have been treated so badly. It’s just a topic my parents & I don’t mention & I’m pretty sure the rest of my family thinks I’m either still in or just taking some time out to myself. They’re probably going to get a shock when they realise I’ve moved on completely to living my authentic “best life ever”. Wishing you all the best on living your authentic best life ever too.
I left pretty harshly 1997, with very little material around. First and foremost I continued my study of the Bible. The more I read the Bible, the more I doubted it. Final nail in the coffin was Lloyd Evans' videos about the book of Daniel being fake. As for personal improvement, discovering Marie Kondo was crucial. JW stuff does not sparkle, so I thank and take it to the trash bin. I think cleaning is a language all people with JW background appreciate.
I have so much respect for people like yourself that researched enough to leave WT, *but you didn't have the Internet.* That takes real focus and a desire to learn truth. Reading the book, _Crisis of Conscience_ is what woke me up, but the Internet made the process of additional research so much easier.
Im so happy to have one parent that isnt in there and encourages me to believe what i want to believe sadly its isnt the case with my mom- soo she‘ll definitely disown me ٩(ᐛ)و
You're actually pretty lucky to wake up so early and have a normal, non-culty parent. Please enjoy your youth and do all the normal teenager things many of us were denied. It's important for your development. Make friends at school, do extracurriculars, dream about your desired career and don't be afraid to talk to counselors for help/advice! This is your life in the long run and you don't owe anyone blind obedience or complete subjection, especially without your opinions and needs being considered. Good luck with everything and I'm wishing you a fantastic 2024 🎉 Stay safe and knowledge is your strongest weapon.
@@concamon1364 I feel this so much. "Do all the normal teenager things many of us were denied." Hits. I'm 15, and I'm making the most out of my youth currently! My dream is to celebrate Halloween at least ONCE!!! I really want to...
I wish content like this existed many years earlier. I hope that people who need to see this will actually get a chance. I really appreciate how you tell ppl to be understanding and loving even to those threatening you with shunning, disowning, evicting, etc. Still trying to be a good, honest human being to everyone. I hope you, but also your channel will have a great 2024. Wish you all the best. Keep it up, man.
Hey! I'm not an exJW but I've done a crap ton of research about their beliefs and culture. You did a really good job with this video and if it weren't for the chance of bad people hitting me up, I'd happily list my contact info cause I would LOVE to befriend anyone brave enough to leave that wicked religion behind. To all those leaving or considering leaving, keep the faith (no pun intended). Just be patient with yourselves and keep moving forward. You'll do just fine.
For those of us who are xJW’s, comments & messages like this from people who have never been part of the community mean so much. Thank you for caring enough to put in the level of effort you already have.
Between you and other RUclipsr Telltale , I've learned more about JW then I ever have in my life, I recently saved a friend of mine from becoming one , I told her ,you realize become one ,your kids have to become JW or you won't be able to be around them, you can't celebrate birthdays ,holidays ,nothing ...she said HELL NO !!
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Quit copy and pasting the same stupid crap. Nobody cares what the bible says, it is not an authority over anything except the weak-minded.
This is useful info! Thx for sharing, you're doing great work! I doubted as a kid and had to bide my time until I could fade in 1998 when I was 17. I didn't know or have these tools at my disposal and felt super alone. But I figured it out over time, made friends who are my family, and just learned to enjoy life! Once again thx for all you're doing, I know it'll help others escape the watchtower!
I’m a Christian (not exjw btw) and I want to thank you for how kindly you portrayed Christianity because a lot of people don’t view us well thinking we deny science and stuff like that but you said many Christians are evolutionists and scientists so I just wanted to say thanks for how you showed us❤
Some persons when leave the jw org stay mentally ill so someone when leave behing a cult also need mental help for overcome the loss of family or friends
Theramintrees is an actual therapist who deals with religious trauma and narcissistic abuse . I really recommend him if you are or any one else is struggling with the mental abuse due to being in a cult like the JWs
What do PIMO, POMI PIMI and POMO mean? The terms PIMO, POMI, PIMI, and POMO, are abbreviations commonly used within certain communities to describe different states of mind and belief. Here's a breakdown of their meanings: PIMO: Physically In and Mentally Out. This term is often used by individuals who are physically present within a particular group or organization (such as a religious or ideological group) but mentally have disassociated themselves or no longer believe in the teachings or principles of that group. It can be associated with a state of "waking up" to the inconsistencies or flaws within the group's beliefs. POMO: Physically Out and Mentally Out. This term refers to individuals who have both physically left the group or organization and mentally disassociated themselves from its beliefs and practices. It signifies a state of freedom, liberty, and happiness from the constraints or control of the group. PIMI: Physically In and Mentally In. This term is used to describe individuals who are both physically and mentally committed to a particular group or organization. They adhere to its beliefs, practices, and principles, often without questioning or critically evaluating them. It can be associated with a sense of being "enslaved" to the group's ideology or dogma. POMI: Physically Out but Mentally In. This term refers to individuals who have physically left the group or organization but still hold on to its beliefs or mindset. They may have left due to various reasons but haven't fully let go of the group's teachings or ideology. It can be associated with a state of fanatical adherence or being mentally trapped in the group's influence. These terms are primarily used within the context of religious or ideological communities and represent different stages of belief and disengagement. They serve as a way for individuals to express and identify their current mindset and relationship with a specific group or organization. What do PIMO, POMI PIMI and POMO mean? #PIMO = Physically In and Mentally Out = Wake-up #POMO = Physically Out and Mentally Out = Freedom / Liberty / Happiness #PIMI = Physically In and Mentally In = Slavery / Zombification #POMI = Physically Out but Mentally In= Fanaticism / Slavery To get your freedom you must change from PIMO to POMO if you do not want to be a POMI. #Oudjahramalegba #Zanmounda
I was traumatized to learn that the truth i was convinced that it was the only truth, was actually not the real truth. I went to therapy which helps, but listening to chanel like this helps even better. Though I feel bad when the bros & siss try to reach out & check if I'm good & I have to come up with excuses coz my mind is made up 😢 poor victims of indoctrination.
6:49 thank you for this. i was outed by a pomi i confided in bc i thought they were pomo, so its hard to let go of my resentment towards them in general, but this is a good point and something i struggle to keep in mind.
Videos like this make it super clear that you're really doing this to help people. I've been out for a long time but I really appreciate you. You are my favorite XJW youtuber. Thanks for being so incredible.
Awesome content. Exactly best ever recommendations ever regarding research into Jehovah's Witnesses. When we awoke these are sites that helped get us through the pain barrier. It will be a time of great pain so build yourself up by finding out Real truths. But keep things quiet from other witnesses until you make a plan for yiur next steps.
My Grandma tried to convert me to Jehovahs Witness. But because I’m a Non denominational Christian and I’m strong in my faith it literally didn’t work lmaooooo 😂 She even tried to get me to read the “Jehovahs Witness Bible” and when I told my mom she was like “DONT TAKE THAT BIBLE ITS THE WRONG VERSION!” Needless to say I am not JW am a proud, non cultish, non denominational, Christian. Edit: I also want to say that I was taken to Kingdom Hall not knowing it was actually Kingdom Hall. I thought it was really boring church but I was 5 don’t judge me 😭
It's one of the many deceptions of JWs. Publicly, they claim they use all Bibles. Privately, they say that the JW bible is the only one you should read.
As a former believer I realized, those smiles I had like them shown on assemblies was no different from the smiles I see at any cult’s assemblies😅even smiles I see at Disney land, it’s just a smile when people feel happy when all gather in same place with same mind that’s comfortable!
Well..on the interview of the century..... Katt Williams on Club Shay Shay. Katt said he ran away at age 13 from his JW home. He chose homelessness. Nuff said 😂❤
I'm so glad you mentioned Bart Ehrman. Becoming disillusioned with any religion is only part one. One MUST learn the facts about the bible's history and accuracy before even considering subscribing to any other xtian belief.
Feels so warm and so refreshing at the same time to see people like you, who have their own minds made up (not only specifically about this religion, but also Christianity and theism as a whole) who still show a lot of a compassion to those with doubts and anxieties. That’s something I learned quickly to admire about people like you (and something I wish to imitate), that no matter the hurt, the backlash from the people in you don’t stop being empathetic and compassionate 🖤
As a gay cis male exjw, my sequence went something like this: uber-PIMI >> POMI >> PIMI again >> POMI again >> PIMQ >> POMQ >> POMO I was a regular pioneer and ministerial servant, then disfellowshipped twice (about a year and a half each time), then really started questioning, physically left while still questioning (was 26 and living with parents that were desperately trying to "fix" me), and then 8 months later I finally did the *unforgivable* sin of doing research and became fully POMO.
@Ash_38_ Lemme explain: I lived knowing that I was gay yet still very much believing the jw world view, even when I was df'ed twice. I tried so hard to change because I viewed homosexuality like alcoholism. It took covid and the response to being reinstated a second time to make me hit a new low, and I was suicidical. A married couple offered to let me live with them until I could get on my feet, and I took that offer over killing myself. Jehovah is not supposed to test you beyond what you can bear, and that was the first time I really felt lied to. I left thinking that maybe it's just me, but it became apparent to me 8 months later when I finally did the forbidden Google, and then it was like the world was flipped upside down from beneath me. Deep down I always had doubts, but the programming (or grooming, if you will) is that strong. It made me question myself over and over long before I ever questioned it.
Great work presenting such a thoughtful and encouraging video on a really difficult subject. I hope many people reap the benefits of all the information you've compiled. Your heart is so big - and we're all so lucky to have you care so much. 💜
We are allowed to read the entire bible history from Gen. To Apoc. With all nonsense and strange parts. But we aren't allowed to read all full history of the watchtower in their collection of publications. Only from 1950 or 1970 for majority countries. Why? Because the changes... They changed so ostensibly their teachings to the point of Charles Taze Russel being disfelowshiped if he teach his teachings today...
Thanks for making this video,this helps an lot for ppl who dont know what to do(wich btw,im thinking of making an video of this type later on,in case anyone is interesed to see it in the future).
Try Gutsick Gibbon for specifically human evolution and Tony Reed for debunking creationist ideas in general . They’re both on RUclips. Gutsick in particular is an anthropologist/ primatologist. She talks fast and you can slow her down by clicking on the little flower on the upper right of your screen and getting the drop down.
Another great and respectful video panda, love your work. I have started developing content for anybody who is wanting to explore their faith after JW's (or another high control group) and unpack the false biblical teachings that they were indoctrinated with by the Watchtower organisation. I started this channel because I noticed that there was a huge lacking of content available for people who don't want to give up on the bible entirely, and this is often cited by JW's in keeping people from leaving with comments like "everyone who leaves just ends up becoming an Atheist/ anti-God apostate!". By offering people a suite of short-form video's that break down the anti-Christian beliefs and teachings that the Watchtower org has developed, I hope that people are more inclined to entertain an objective exit from the organisation on their own terms.
I didn’t stay a Christian myself (not atheist either), but you are right, helping people work out what feels right & authentic for them is very much needed. I can imagine leaving & seeing a abundance of xJW atheist’s would be very disheartening to someone who is still a believer in biblical teachings.
Thank you so so so much for having that in consideration. For people who genuinely believed a whole set of doctrines and suddenly (or not so much) realized that they were fake, it can be really disheartening to just throw away all faith. Things like this might help them to feel less anxious, to know better how to navigate their fate, slowly but surely. And even if they do become a non Christian or an atheist eventually, it doesn’t have to feel so rushed. After all, you are a work in progress even before getting out. Anyway, I value the compassion for those who don’t want to leave the Bible entirely 🖤 Even if later they change their minds.
I wont say im exjw but at the same time, i haven't been in almost two decades. I told my parents that i just wasnt feeling it at 15, and they said "cool, do you mind if we keep going?" I still talk to some brothers snd sisters, surprisingly they accept that im in the LGBTQIA, and we vibe, they dont pressure me to return or whatever, and we're still family. I feel that its regional to how cultish JWs act. Where im at, they're pretty chill, but in other places the cult hivemind persists
5:45 I’m a POMOF (physically out, mentally out, but fearing [concerned family members]), that is an unbaptized ex-JW living in fear of PIMI family members.
I questioned the teachings, most of it i dont think is biblical anyway, most of the verses they use to warp their teachings they take out of context or change the meaning. This made me atheist and hate God and the idea of there being a creator. Religious trauma is real and can make someone hate God. But God is good, it is the people using his word and warping it into something else that gave these people the idea that there is no God and that if there is one, they do not love them. Jesus Christ is lord and all loving, I have rejected him many times and wanted nothing to do with him. It doesnt matter how many times we betray Christ he will always love us. God bless
There are three types of POMOs: POMON (Physically Out, Mentally Out, Not Fearing), POMOF (Physically Out, Mentally Out, But Fearing), and POMOU (Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Underaged).
The Bible Unearthed was the first book I dived into when I was questioning and did it open my eyes. This book that uncovers historical archaeological evidence will really open your mind and have you looking at the Bible in a completely different light. I recommend this book.
• 3:26 PIMI - Physically In, Mentally In • 3:42 Uber-PIMI - Hardcore Physically In, Mentally In • 3:55 PIMO - Physically In, Mentally Out (most commonly used acronym) - A person who is active in the religion, but no longer believes, but has to be active in fear of being shunned, and cannot leave. • 4:21 PIMQ - Physically In, Mentally Questioning • 4:40 POMO - Physically Out, Mentally Out - A person who is inactive or excommunicated member who no longer believes. • 5:45 POMOF - Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Fearing (describes myself) - An unbaptized and inactive member who no longer believes, but because he or she was never baptized, he or she lives in fear of family members, especially parents, who think they’re entitled to his or her personal life. • 6:02 PIMOU - Physically In, Mentally Out, but Underaged • 6:02 POMOU - Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Underaged - Refers to those who are no longer in the religion and no longer believe, but cannot leave due to being underaged. • 6:30 POMI - Physically Out, Mentally In • ?? POMON - Physically Out, Mentally Out, and Not Fearing - Refers to an inactive, excommunicated, or unbaptized member who no longer believes, and does not live in fear of a JW family member who thinks he or she is entitled to that person’s personal life.
I was never a JW, rather I am an Ex-Catholic. But I find the crazy things JW's believe to be fascinating, and the indoctrination tactics they use as well. I found your channel from people like Tell Tale Athiest. Are yoi also an Atheist, or are you still religious?
@@exjwpandatower No mention, but I suppose the RUclips algorithm saw that you both made videos critiquing Sophia and Caleb videos and it lead me to your channel.
I came here because I was interested to learn about how those unfortunate enough to have been part of this cult manage to get out. JW is banned in my country, but exJWs are doing good work as they expose the cult for what it is. Keep it up.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Thank you. I don't exactly need this anymore, since I left a few years ago, but it was still nice to watch... i love the littlest bit of community with ex-jws I can find.
I left the religion for because i was inconsistent 2 years ago (while still believing in it), and by last year I knew i could never step in it again, due to realizing how queer I am (already knew I was aroace when leaving, now know I'm also agender and might be intersex). Now I have to break the beliefs I build in my childhood in this odd mindset while doing research related to the queer community and hoping to be on edge with the possibility of meeting a jw in town
Hey, Panda thank you so much for this. I am currently a year into having a bible study with 2 jw's. I never had any intention of becoming a jw, I always knew they were a cult, but I had an interest in learning about the scriptures. Unfortunately, it didn't take long for me to realise the study they offer, isn't a bible study at all, but more a watchtower indoctrination program! Still, it's been useful in many ways, as it's made me research the bible via other sources and given me so many opportunities to put forward some extremely (to them) challenging viewpoints, which I hope has them questioning the organisation. I have got to know them so well and genuinely love them and so I'm really desperate to try and wake them up.
Excellent video. I've read most of the books that you suggest before a I officially left the cult 20 years ago. I've read other books also, but I think that the ones that you recommend are the best for someone in the process of leaving the JW and in need of undoing the brainwashing.
For the people that are planning to leave Jehovah witness community and reading this, please hang in there. I may not be in this awful cult but i understand the pain you all are going through. I was gay when i was around 12 or 13. My parents hated the lgbtq community because of their Catholic religion. I was scared to come out in front of them knowing they are dead serious of kicking me out in the streets. What i did was hanging in there. I learned to never give up from cartoons, anime, and video games my parents tried to avoid for me. I felt isolated in my family. All i did was never give up, keep all my notes i learned from school, and plan to move out. Keeping my notes from school helped me so much. And my coworkers who are older than me gave me advice in life, my car, and everything i need to know to live my life. I never felt so free and well cared. And i know the feeling of missing out from your youth. Its ok. You may have missed out but its never too late to experience it. I understand because i missed out alot from my youth but I'm not missing out the opportunities that open up to me. No one to hold me back. I was scared but also excited to finally catch up what i missed out. And i have never felt so happy and free. Just hang in there, be brave once you are ready to leave. And slowly but surely you will feel free. It's ok to ask for help when you're out. You'll learn and finally get to experience with your life only YOU want it to be. And i understand that you still remember the things you went through. It's ok to remember your past. Just remember your past and look where you are at. Just look how far you are at. That's when you know you finally let go of your past, acknowledging it, and head for a brighter future. You'll never know what's out there for you. Which makes it scary but also exciting. And that's what makes it fun. Be smart, hang in there, and be brave. ❤
That is true that religion and science are not mutually exclusive The Reverend Monsignor Georges Lemaître along with be a Catholic priest, was a theoretical physicist, mathematician, astronomer who proposed the concept of the Big Bang. But to those like the Jehovah Witness its, to quote Ned Flanders, No one was ever a monkey! Everything is what it was and always will be! God put us here and that's that.
Hey not a jw. I just find your perspective interesting. Thanks for sharing I had only really known about the uniforms and knocking on doors, never from someone actually involved.
@@exjwpandatower Excluding all scientist in human history before Darwin and focusing on current scientists excluding all religious scientists ,current Muslim scientists as well we're left with only atheist ones and a lot of them don't believe in evolution, the reason for you not to know anyone of them is explained in a documentary of ben stain called Expelled:no intelligence allowed, as an addition for the scientists interviewed in this documentary that their careers were destroyed or heavily damaged simply for doubting or just questioning the principles of this theory, we have other scientists who are rejecting it like Dr.james tour prof of chemistry and computer science in rice university , and there's Dr Michael cremo an Dr Virginia steen- macintyre both professors in geology and the list goes on , it's actually weird that you even asked that question as evolution is just a theory and if there weren't any scientists who reject it , it would be considered a fact . apart from that wouldn't be good for you to react to this one right here : ruclips.net/video/3TrwJOx-kUM/видео.htmlsi=bBfYPu7dDSe7QP0I
11:23 : I'd put Gutsick Gibbon above Forreist Valkai, personally. But that's my taste. There's Professor Stick as well. For broader science there's Martymer81, Professor Dave Explains, as well as the whole flat earth debunking community, because yes it's one thing to see flat earth for the idiocy that it is, it's another thing to be able to explain clearly what is actually going on. CoolHardLogic also had nice content (it's still there, he's just not been active for a very long time). He does the calculations that science deniers won't to show the consequences of claims made by those science deniers, and it's hilarious yet teaches a bit as well. Myles Power is specialized in researching and debunking conspiracy theories, and not just the scientific ones. Very informative too.
Maybe going through their beliefs and comparing with the Bible would be helpful. There's a reason why the Scripture is referred as the Sword of the Spirit. There are many false denominations in Christianity and Jehovah's witnesses is one of them
A tip I would like to add is if the Kingdom Hall has a Library, go check it out. The ones I know of have them. I was able to check out the physical copies of the various literature and confirm for myself what the doctrines used to be.
I love your Videos but there is one thing you have missed out. Respectfully Some of us after 3 decades in a high control cult are Atheists. Some of us do not wish to go on the next religious bus. We or I have decided after leaving 15 years ago that a deep analysis of the bible finds it very troubling. The fact that The Gospels are Pseudonyms and are ONLY stories based on " Oral Tradition" other wise known as Hearsay. There was not as SINGLE Eye witness to Jesus doing anything. Stories are what we have. Devoid of Slavery, Ethnic cleansing, Racism, Misogyny ETC. Of Course An Exodus that never happened various stories of Vocal chords in animals etc. I would respectfully as a young age with a great mind to take your own advice. Don't encourage others to read the bible as it makes you no better. Let them decide. If you live in USA I understand your zeal on this but believe me. Your best friends are who Kipling had. 6 of them . WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHEN, WHY. ... take care now. Great work you are doing. Some is very funny and helpful to leavers.
But he mentioned Aron Ra (Athiest channel!) as something that can help those waking up & also he deliberately does NOT push his own beliefs on anyone. The point is to do your own research, come to your own conclusions & don't judge others for whatever decisions they come to. Each of us has our own path to travel.
i really like your channel personally as a sort of fundamentalist christian. but i dont hold the same beleifs as you, while yes i do belive that evolution does exist in the form of adaptation but i dont belive that 1 cell 5 billion years ago turned into all of the living organisms in the world, in my perspective due to how fine tuned the universe is, i believe there is a creator and i have just chose the God of jacob isaac and abraham to be my God, but i do understand where you are coming from
Okay no longer being a JW is fine. But denying Jesus and no longer continuing your relationship with Christ is completely different. I was never a JW but I am and will always be a follower of Christ because He is the truth. He loves us very much. Repent from your sins🙏🏾
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@beetee6434 Don't try to make sense of it. Mr DC is a rabid WT apologist, and he thinks by posting this random nonsense it somehow proves JWs are the only true religion. He asserts that Jesus is the leader of the JWs, but ignores the fact that WT says the governing body and the elders are the leaders. Mr. DC knows even less about his own religion than he does about the Bible, which is dismal at best.
@@adamantiumbullet9215just ignore them their Greek is incorrect and inaccurate but they won’t debate it if you try to question them. They will also ignore any parts that could contradict their views and can’t understand that the gospels do vary in their interpretations and beliefs.
Collosians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him. John 10:30 I and the Father are one John 14:8 whomever has seen me, has seen the Father John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever And of course John 1:1 Εν άρχη ην ο λόγος, και ο λόγος ην προς τον θεον , και θεός ην ο λόγος
@@adamantiumbullet9215 WHAT A LIAR! You said "WT says the governing body and the elders are the leaders" then post the WT article that the GB says they are the LEADERs in the Congregations. you cannot stop lying don't you. LEADING people to GOD and CHrist is DIFFERENT from being the LEADER in the Congregation who is Christ. Know the difference, LIAR!
What I really like about your style is that you present information in a very respectful, down to earth, nonjudgmental way. You have your own views on religion after leaving Watchtower, but you don't push your mindset on anyone or come off critical, realizing everyone is different and has the right to choose a path that helps them personally. Thank you for your great content!👏🙏
💯 agree
Thank you for the tips man. I'm 20, a ministerial servant and Its been 3 months since I became PIMO here in the Philippines. I'm already doing my research (thanks to jw facts) and watching your vids (I do agree with you that humour is one of the best ways to heal)
This cult has made me socially inept (because of all the fakeness that they're always potraying while socializing with people) and it has been ingrained in me that wordly people are bad influence so I'm feeling a little bit uncomfortable writing this comment but I'm aware that with enough practice, I can make new friends outside of this cult. This is my first time commenting/interacting on exjw videos so I believe this is one step to path of recovery
Sorry if my english is bad
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
i am not exjw myself but you are certainly taking great first steps!! the isolation JWs experience seems worse than other high demand religions, as you mentioned it is very discourage to talk to outsiders. you are doing great, keep your mind open
i was in your shoes a few years ago. i just recently started publicly commenting on exjw videos bc i just don’t care anymore and i think it’s more important to talk about my experiences with others in a similar place. i’m proud of you man
@@bernjobi not discouraged to talk to outsiders, you are lying. it is to antiJWs that we are discouraged to talk
You can’t have honest interactions with either JWs or non JWs because if you have questions you’ll be tattled on or abandoned. I’m still trying to find out why JWs hate evolution and the most I ever get from them is that ignorant inaccurate publication you have. I KNOW it’s inaccurate because I’ve actually evolved short lived organisms in the lab myself .
Excellent video Panda 🐼 Thank you!! My mother's favorite thing to say is, "Apostates aren't happy. They're miserable." She doesn't know any apostates... never even watched a video! So, it's a riot she thinks that. 😆 🤣 I know where she got that though. It's not her own thought.
It's amazing what JWs parrot just because WT says it, without ever doing research on their own to determine if what they've been told is actually true.
Yeah, she's just head that nonsense from the GB. It's one of those things they keep on a loop.
I have personally never been a JW myself, but I have a lot of respect for ex-JW's. It takes a lot of courage and bravery to leave your religion and be willing to tolerate shunning from your family and friends.
I can kinda relate as well, since I was raised Fund. Christian and young earth creationist, although I'm still in the PIMO phase... So I get how difficult it can be to talk about this stuff and go through this questioning phase, especially in a high control group such as JWs. Good luck to all of you on your own journey, and I hope you achieve success and happiness outside this cult
Good luck to you on your personal life journey also. High control is high control, regardless of the faction or denomination, sounds like you need just as much bravery, courage & support as any of us in the xJW community.
What a wonderful guide for anyone leaving any cult. Thank you for making this! Happy belated new years 🎉
I left this religion a year ago today when I almost took my life because of the horrible treatment. Born and raised in it I’m much happier but of course leaving comes with consequences. We all know what I mean.
You’re not alone even though it might feel that way. You’re really brave for living what you believe is true, and not just going along living a lie out of convenience. It might feel like there’s nothing left after leaving but believe me things get so much better you just gotta keep going👍🏽
It must be one of the worst religions on the planet
Si le cose migliorano il tempo e una buona medicina, dopo che sono partito ,ho capito che non sarei piu tornato e che non avevo bisogno di questa religione dopo fatto le mie ricerche i siti apostati mi hanno molto aiutato ,oro vivo benissimo gia da qualche anno ,l'unico mio desiderio e svegliare molti che realmente sono delle brave personi, e vittime della Watchtower. Da L'italia saluti.
Oh dear I give hugs also your not alone either cause I left Christianity for personal reasons. However Vrchat made me heal and made my own religion. I highly recommend Vrchat or any social platforms cause they might help ❤. Remember everything will be ok and leaving religion can be very hard. Hugs from Georgia USA
You are definitely not alone. After leaving (I faded for the sake of my parents, otherwise I would have disassociated), I actually apologised to my DF’d cousin & his wife for participating in their toxic & manipulative shunning techniques. So I’m so sorry you have been treated so badly. It’s just a topic my parents & I don’t mention & I’m pretty sure the rest of my family thinks I’m either still in or just taking some time out to myself. They’re probably going to get a shock when they realise I’ve moved on completely to living my authentic “best life ever”. Wishing you all the best on living your authentic best life ever too.
Thanks for making this video! Also, belated happy new year! I hope 2024 is a great year for you!
Thank you!! Happy new years🎉
I left pretty harshly 1997, with very little material around. First and foremost I continued my study of the Bible. The more I read the Bible, the more I doubted it. Final nail in the coffin was Lloyd Evans' videos about the book of Daniel being fake.
As for personal improvement, discovering Marie Kondo was crucial. JW stuff does not sparkle, so I thank and take it to the trash bin. I think cleaning is a language all people with JW background appreciate.
I have so much respect for people like yourself that researched enough to leave WT, *but you didn't have the Internet.* That takes real focus and a desire to learn truth.
Reading the book, _Crisis of Conscience_ is what woke me up, but the Internet made the process of additional research so much easier.
THE FACT THAT IM IN THE PROCESS TO LEAVE THIS CULT- (i‘ve been born into it and i, quite young- im 13 years old so yeaah quiet young)
Im so happy to have one parent that isnt in there and encourages me to believe what i want to believe sadly its isnt the case with my mom- soo she‘ll definitely disown me ٩(ᐛ)و
You're actually pretty lucky to wake up so early and have a normal, non-culty parent.
Please enjoy your youth and do all the normal teenager things many of us were denied. It's important for your development.
Make friends at school, do extracurriculars, dream about your desired career and don't be afraid to talk to counselors for help/advice!
This is your life in the long run and you don't owe anyone blind obedience or complete subjection, especially without your opinions and needs being considered.
Good luck with everything and I'm wishing you a fantastic 2024 🎉
Stay safe and knowledge is your strongest weapon.
@@concamon1364Thank you so much! I wish you a fantastic 2024 too :D
How'd it go? :0
@@concamon1364 I feel this so much. "Do all the normal teenager things many of us were denied." Hits. I'm 15, and I'm making the most out of my youth currently! My dream is to celebrate Halloween at least ONCE!!! I really want to...
I wish content like this existed many years earlier. I hope that people who need to see this will actually get a chance. I really appreciate how you tell ppl to be understanding and loving even to those threatening you with shunning, disowning, evicting, etc. Still trying to be a good, honest human being to everyone.
I hope you, but also your channel will have a great 2024. Wish you all the best.
Keep it up, man.
Hey! I'm not an exJW but I've done a crap ton of research about their beliefs and culture. You did a really good job with this video and if it weren't for the chance of bad people hitting me up, I'd happily list my contact info cause I would LOVE to befriend anyone brave enough to leave that wicked religion behind.
To all those leaving or considering leaving, keep the faith (no pun intended). Just be patient with yourselves and keep moving forward. You'll do just fine.
For those of us who are xJW’s, comments & messages like this from people who have never been part of the community mean so much. Thank you for caring enough to put in the level of effort you already have.
Between you and other RUclipsr Telltale , I've learned more about JW then I ever have in my life, I recently saved a friend of mine from becoming one , I told her ,you realize become one ,your kids have to become JW or you won't be able to be around them, you can't celebrate birthdays ,holidays ,nothing ...she said HELL NO !!
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Hai agito da vero cristiano ,le hai salvato la famiglia e forse anche la vita da L'ITALIA SALUTI.
Good job! 👍 Thank you for saving your friend from this dangerous CULT!
@@cultytalk another ANTIJW that is so biased and hateful
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Quit copy and pasting the same stupid crap. Nobody cares what the bible says, it is not an authority over anything except the weak-minded.
This is useful info! Thx for sharing, you're doing great work! I doubted as a kid and had to bide my time until I could fade in 1998 when I was 17. I didn't know or have these tools at my disposal and felt super alone. But I figured it out over time, made friends who are my family, and just learned to enjoy life!
Once again thx for all you're doing, I know it'll help others escape the watchtower!
I’m a Christian (not exjw btw) and I want to thank you for how kindly you portrayed Christianity because a lot of people don’t view us well thinking we deny science and stuff like that but you said many Christians are evolutionists and scientists so I just wanted to say thanks for how you showed us❤
Some persons when leave the jw org stay mentally ill so someone when leave behing a cult also need mental help for overcome the loss of family or friends
Theramintrees is an actual therapist who deals with religious trauma and narcissistic abuse . I really recommend him if you are or any one else is struggling with the mental abuse due to being in a cult like the JWs
He’s on RUclips
@@dancingnature really I am talking because myself I was born into the jw org and I am recovering mentally
What do PIMO, POMI PIMI and POMO mean?
The terms PIMO, POMI, PIMI, and POMO, are abbreviations commonly used within certain communities to describe different states of mind and belief. Here's a breakdown of their meanings:
PIMO: Physically In and Mentally Out. This term is often used by individuals who are physically present within a particular group or organization (such as a religious or ideological group) but mentally have disassociated themselves or no longer believe in the teachings or principles of that group. It can be associated with a state of "waking up" to the inconsistencies or flaws within the group's beliefs.
POMO: Physically Out and Mentally Out. This term refers to individuals who have both physically left the group or organization and mentally disassociated themselves from its beliefs and practices. It signifies a state of freedom, liberty, and happiness from the constraints or control of the group.
PIMI: Physically In and Mentally In. This term is used to describe individuals who are both physically and mentally committed to a particular group or organization. They adhere to its beliefs, practices, and principles, often without questioning or critically evaluating them. It can be associated with a sense of being "enslaved" to the group's ideology or dogma.
POMI: Physically Out but Mentally In. This term refers to individuals who have physically left the group or organization but still hold on to its beliefs or mindset. They may have left due to various reasons but haven't fully let go of the group's teachings or ideology. It can be associated with a state of fanatical adherence or being mentally trapped in the group's influence.
These terms are primarily used within the context of religious or ideological communities and represent different stages of belief and disengagement. They serve as a way for individuals to express and identify their current mindset and relationship with a specific group or organization.
What do PIMO, POMI PIMI and POMO mean?
#PIMO = Physically In and Mentally Out = Wake-up
#POMO = Physically Out and Mentally Out = Freedom / Liberty / Happiness
#PIMI = Physically In and Mentally In = Slavery / Zombification
#POMI = Physically Out but Mentally In= Fanaticism / Slavery
To get your freedom you must change from PIMO to POMO if you do not want to be a POMI.
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I was traumatized to learn that the truth i was convinced that it was the only truth, was actually not the real truth. I went to therapy which helps, but listening to chanel like this helps even better. Though I feel bad when the bros & siss try to reach out & check if I'm good & I have to come up with excuses coz my mind is made up 😢 poor victims of indoctrination.
6:49 thank you for this. i was outed by a pomi i confided in bc i thought they were pomo, so its hard to let go of my resentment towards them in general, but this is a good point and something i struggle to keep in mind.
Dude when I quit the JWs i had to go to the library to do research lol
Videos like this make it super clear that you're really doing this to help people. I've been out for a long time but I really appreciate you. You are my favorite XJW youtuber. Thanks for being so incredible.
Awesome content. Exactly best ever recommendations ever regarding research into Jehovah's Witnesses. When we awoke these are sites that helped get us through the pain barrier. It will be a time of great pain so build yourself up by finding out Real truths. But keep things quiet from other witnesses until you make a plan for yiur next steps.
My Grandma tried to convert me to Jehovahs Witness. But because I’m a Non denominational Christian and I’m strong in my faith it literally didn’t work lmaooooo 😂
She even tried to get me to read the “Jehovahs Witness Bible” and when I told my mom she was like “DONT TAKE THAT BIBLE ITS THE WRONG VERSION!”
Needless to say I am not JW am a proud, non cultish, non denominational, Christian.
Edit: I also want to say that I was taken to Kingdom Hall not knowing it was actually Kingdom Hall. I thought it was really boring church but I was 5 don’t judge me 😭
It's one of the many deceptions of JWs. Publicly, they claim they use all Bibles. Privately, they say that the JW bible is the only one you should read.
Thats what i try to tell these lunatics that that the bible is fake but no there like robots qho cant think outside the box
As a former believer I realized, those smiles I had like them shown on assemblies was no different from the smiles I see at any cult’s assemblies😅even smiles I see at Disney land, it’s just a smile when people feel happy when all gather in same place with same mind that’s comfortable!
Well..on the interview of the century.....
Katt Williams on Club Shay Shay.
Katt said he ran away at age 13 from his JW home. He chose homelessness. Nuff said 😂❤
I saw that!! What an excellent interview. Katt is a truth-teller & he's quite brilliant , soooo talented & what a generous heart he has!
I'm so glad you mentioned Bart Ehrman. Becoming disillusioned with any religion is only part one. One MUST learn the facts about the bible's history and accuracy before even considering subscribing to any other xtian belief.
Wow what an amazing n helpful video! Well done panda 🐼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nice one Bro.
Best Apostate of our generation.
Feels so warm and so refreshing at the same time to see people like you, who have their own minds made up (not only specifically about this religion, but also Christianity and theism as a whole) who still show a lot of a compassion to those with doubts and anxieties. That’s something I learned quickly to admire about people like you (and something I wish to imitate), that no matter the hurt, the backlash from the people in you don’t stop being empathetic and compassionate 🖤
As a gay cis male exjw, my sequence went something like this: uber-PIMI >> POMI >> PIMI again >> POMI again >> PIMQ >> POMQ >> POMO
I was a regular pioneer and ministerial servant, then disfellowshipped twice (about a year and a half each time), then really started questioning, physically left while still questioning (was 26 and living with parents that were desperately trying to "fix" me), and then 8 months later I finally did the *unforgivable* sin of doing research and became fully POMO.
You were never PIMO?
@Ash_38_ Lemme explain: I lived knowing that I was gay yet still very much believing the jw world view, even when I was df'ed twice. I tried so hard to change because I viewed homosexuality like alcoholism. It took covid and the response to being reinstated a second time to make me hit a new low, and I was suicidical. A married couple offered to let me live with them until I could get on my feet, and I took that offer over killing myself. Jehovah is not supposed to test you beyond what you can bear, and that was the first time I really felt lied to. I left thinking that maybe it's just me, but it became apparent to me 8 months later when I finally did the forbidden Google, and then it was like the world was flipped upside down from beneath me. Deep down I always had doubts, but the programming (or grooming, if you will) is that strong. It made me question myself over and over long before I ever questioned it.
Great work presenting such a thoughtful and encouraging video on a really difficult subject. I hope many people reap the benefits of all the information you've compiled. Your heart is so big - and we're all so lucky to have you care so much. 💜
We are allowed to read the entire bible history from Gen. To Apoc. With all nonsense and strange parts. But we aren't allowed to read all full history of the watchtower in their collection of publications. Only from 1950 or 1970 for majority countries. Why? Because the changes... They changed so ostensibly their teachings to the point of Charles Taze Russel being disfelowshiped if he teach his teachings today...
Whoa, this is an awesome video. We should translate it, Spanish would be great!
gracias!!
Wow that a lot of money
@@Aleariaa about 7 dollars actually.
Thanks for making this video,this helps an lot for ppl who dont know what to do(wich btw,im thinking of making an video of this type later on,in case anyone is interesed to see it in the future).
I cannot recommend Forest and Aron Ra enough. I'm glad you mentioned them
Try Gutsick Gibbon for specifically human evolution and Tony Reed for debunking creationist ideas in general . They’re both on RUclips. Gutsick in particular is an anthropologist/ primatologist. She talks fast and you can slow her down by clicking on the little flower on the upper right of your screen and getting the drop down.
@@dancingnature I like gutsick gibbon. I'll look up the others
Another great and respectful video panda, love your work.
I have started developing content for anybody who is wanting to explore their faith after JW's (or another high control group) and unpack the false biblical teachings that they were indoctrinated with by the Watchtower organisation.
I started this channel because I noticed that there was a huge lacking of content available for people who don't want to give up on the bible entirely, and this is often cited by JW's in keeping people from leaving with comments like "everyone who leaves just ends up becoming an Atheist/ anti-God apostate!".
By offering people a suite of short-form video's that break down the anti-Christian beliefs and teachings that the Watchtower org has developed, I hope that people are more inclined to entertain an objective exit from the organisation on their own terms.
I didn’t stay a Christian myself (not atheist either), but you are right, helping people work out what feels right & authentic for them is very much needed. I can imagine leaving & seeing a abundance of xJW atheist’s would be very disheartening to someone who is still a believer in biblical teachings.
Thank you so so so much for having that in consideration. For people who genuinely believed a whole set of doctrines and suddenly (or not so much) realized that they were fake, it can be really disheartening to just throw away all faith. Things like this might help them to feel less anxious, to know better how to navigate their fate, slowly but surely. And even if they do become a non Christian or an atheist eventually, it doesn’t have to feel so rushed. After all, you are a work in progress even before getting out. Anyway, I value the compassion for those who don’t want to leave the Bible entirely 🖤 Even if later they change their minds.
Damn, this is like trying to get out of a bad contract.
I wont say im exjw but at the same time, i haven't been in almost two decades. I told my parents that i just wasnt feeling it at 15, and they said "cool, do you mind if we keep going?" I still talk to some brothers snd sisters, surprisingly they accept that im in the LGBTQIA, and we vibe, they dont pressure me to return or whatever, and we're still family.
I feel that its regional to how cultish JWs act. Where im at, they're pretty chill, but in other places the cult hivemind persists
You have given us many resources to check out to make it also easier from those who did not know where to start. Thank you!
5:45 I’m a POMOF (physically out, mentally out, but fearing [concerned family members]), that is an unbaptized ex-JW living in fear of PIMI family members.
I totally understand this!
Thank for video .but watch lates interview of the court winners in Spain exJw
Great job on the guide
I questioned the teachings, most of it i dont think is biblical anyway, most of the verses they use to warp their teachings they take out of context or change the meaning. This made me atheist and hate God and the idea of there being a creator. Religious trauma is real and can make someone hate God. But God is good, it is the people using his word and warping it into something else that gave these people the idea that there is no God and that if there is one, they do not love them. Jesus Christ is lord and all loving, I have rejected him many times and wanted nothing to do with him. It doesnt matter how many times we betray Christ he will always love us. God bless
Jesus loves you so much bro, happy you’ve found peace in God
Great job!
There are three types of POMOs: POMON (Physically Out, Mentally Out, Not Fearing), POMOF (Physically Out, Mentally Out, But Fearing), and POMOU (Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Underaged).
The Bible Unearthed was the first book I dived into when I was questioning and did it open my eyes. This book that uncovers historical archaeological evidence will really open your mind and have you looking at the Bible in a completely different light. I recommend this book.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
• 3:26 PIMI - Physically In, Mentally In
• 3:42 Uber-PIMI - Hardcore Physically In, Mentally In
• 3:55 PIMO - Physically In, Mentally Out (most commonly used acronym) - A person who is active in the religion, but no longer believes, but has to be active in fear of being shunned, and cannot leave.
• 4:21 PIMQ - Physically In, Mentally Questioning
• 4:40 POMO - Physically Out, Mentally Out - A person who is inactive or excommunicated member who no longer believes.
• 5:45 POMOF - Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Fearing (describes myself) - An unbaptized and inactive member who no longer believes, but because he or she was never baptized, he or she lives in fear of family members, especially parents, who think they’re entitled to his or her personal life.
• 6:02 PIMOU - Physically In, Mentally Out, but Underaged
• 6:02 POMOU - Physically Out, Mentally Out, but Underaged - Refers to those who are no longer in the religion and no longer believe, but cannot leave due to being underaged.
• 6:30 POMI - Physically Out, Mentally In
• ?? POMON - Physically Out, Mentally Out, and Not Fearing - Refers to an inactive, excommunicated, or unbaptized member who no longer believes, and does not live in fear of a JW family member who thinks he or she is entitled to that person’s personal life.
I was never a JW, rather I am an Ex-Catholic. But I find the crazy things JW's believe to be fascinating, and the indoctrination tactics they use as well.
I found your channel from people like Tell Tale Athiest. Are yoi also an Atheist, or are you still religious?
I’m an agnostic atheist, but i still love talking about religion. Did Tell Tale mention my channel or did you just found me randomly?
@@exjwpandatower No mention, but I suppose the RUclips algorithm saw that you both made videos critiquing Sophia and Caleb videos and it lead me to your channel.
I came here because I was interested to learn about how those unfortunate enough to have been part of this cult manage to get out. JW is banned in my country, but exJWs are doing good work as they expose the cult for what it is. Keep it up.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
As a former JW I enjoyed the video.
Thank you. I don't exactly need this anymore, since I left a few years ago, but it was still nice to watch... i love the littlest bit of community with ex-jws I can find.
I left the religion for because i was inconsistent 2 years ago (while still believing in it), and by last year I knew i could never step in it again, due to realizing how queer I am (already knew I was aroace when leaving, now know I'm also agender and might be intersex). Now I have to break the beliefs I build in my childhood in this odd mindset while doing research related to the queer community and hoping to be on edge with the possibility of meeting a jw in town
Apostates to jws are like the chaos cultists of warhammer 40k 😂😂😂
Thank you!❤
VERY well done!!!
Hey, Panda thank you so much for this. I am currently a year into having a bible study with 2 jw's. I never had any intention of becoming a jw, I always knew they were a cult, but I had an interest in learning about the scriptures. Unfortunately, it didn't take long for me to realise the study they offer, isn't a bible study at all, but more a watchtower indoctrination program! Still, it's been useful in many ways, as it's made me research the bible via other sources and given me so many opportunities to put forward some extremely (to them) challenging viewpoints, which I hope has them questioning the organisation. I have got to know them so well and genuinely love them and so I'm really desperate to try and wake them up.
Excellent video. I've read most of the books that you suggest before a I officially left the cult 20 years ago. I've read other books also, but I think that the ones that you recommend are the best for someone in the process of leaving the JW and in need of undoing the brainwashing.
Thank you so much I really needed to hear this
At 0:15 the Panda is so adorable!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
For the people that are planning to leave Jehovah witness community and reading this, please hang in there. I may not be in this awful cult but i understand the pain you all are going through. I was gay when i was around 12 or 13. My parents hated the lgbtq community because of their Catholic religion. I was scared to come out in front of them knowing they are dead serious of kicking me out in the streets. What i did was hanging in there. I learned to never give up from cartoons, anime, and video games my parents tried to avoid for me. I felt isolated in my family. All i did was never give up, keep all my notes i learned from school, and plan to move out. Keeping my notes from school helped me so much. And my coworkers who are older than me gave me advice in life, my car, and everything i need to know to live my life. I never felt so free and well cared. And i know the feeling of missing out from your youth. Its ok. You may have missed out but its never too late to experience it. I understand because i missed out alot from my youth but I'm not missing out the opportunities that open up to me. No one to hold me back. I was scared but also excited to finally catch up what i missed out. And i have never felt so happy and free. Just hang in there, be brave once you are ready to leave. And slowly but surely you will feel free. It's ok to ask for help when you're out. You'll learn and finally get to experience with your life only YOU want it to be. And i understand that you still remember the things you went through. It's ok to remember your past. Just remember your past and look where you are at. Just look how far you are at. That's when you know you finally let go of your past, acknowledging it, and head for a brighter future. You'll never know what's out there for you. Which makes it scary but also exciting. And that's what makes it fun. Be smart, hang in there, and be brave. ❤
Grazie ! Ciao dall'Italia
Great very helpful video.
Wonderful video. Thank you for putting it together.
first off before the video starts i got an ad for hallow (praying app)
That is true that religion and science are not mutually exclusive The Reverend Monsignor Georges Lemaître along with be a Catholic priest, was a theoretical physicist, mathematician, astronomer who proposed the concept of the Big Bang.
But to those like the Jehovah Witness its, to quote Ned Flanders, No one was ever a monkey! Everything is what it was and always will be! God put us here and that's that.
Thank you so very much for this video it is very helpful!
I was completely ignorant to some of the teachings (shunning) and abuse that goes on prior to a couple months ago.
great primer for newly freed minds
Happy New Year love thanks for these videos 🎉❤
2:27 Not to mention, the WT happens to modify its old stuff.
Hey not a jw. I just find your perspective interesting. Thanks for sharing
I had only really known about the uniforms and knocking on doors, never from someone actually involved.
beautifully said. And it gives insight to why you use the fart noise 😂
It is probably way worse if you're a kid
11:46 and a lot of scientists don't believe in evolution
which ones?
@@exjwpandatower Excluding all scientist in human history before Darwin and focusing on current scientists excluding all religious scientists ,current Muslim scientists as well we're left with only atheist ones and a lot of them don't believe in evolution, the reason for you not to know anyone of them is explained in a documentary of ben stain called Expelled:no intelligence allowed, as an addition for the scientists interviewed in this documentary that their careers were destroyed or heavily damaged simply for doubting or just questioning the principles of this theory, we have other scientists who are rejecting it like Dr.james tour prof of chemistry and computer science in rice university , and there's Dr Michael cremo an Dr Virginia steen- macintyre both professors in geology and the list goes on , it's actually weird that you even asked that question as evolution is just a theory and if there weren't any scientists who reject it , it would be considered a fact . apart from that wouldn't be good for you to react to this one right here : ruclips.net/video/3TrwJOx-kUM/видео.htmlsi=bBfYPu7dDSe7QP0I
11:23 : I'd put Gutsick Gibbon above Forreist Valkai, personally. But that's my taste. There's Professor Stick as well.
For broader science there's Martymer81, Professor Dave Explains, as well as the whole flat earth debunking community, because yes it's one thing to see flat earth for the idiocy that it is, it's another thing to be able to explain clearly what is actually going on.
CoolHardLogic also had nice content (it's still there, he's just not been active for a very long time). He does the calculations that science deniers won't to show the consequences of claims made by those science deniers, and it's hilarious yet teaches a bit as well.
Myles Power is specialized in researching and debunking conspiracy theories, and not just the scientific ones. Very informative too.
AWESOME VIDEO!
You helped me wake up @ExJw Panda Tower.
The key is leaving the watchtower and the ex watchtower community. If a person can do that then they can get to truth
Clint's reptiles is also a good one for science
Maybe going through their beliefs and comparing with the Bible would be helpful. There's a reason why the Scripture is referred as the Sword of the Spirit. There are many false denominations in Christianity and Jehovah's witnesses is one of them
PIMQ... one the best bro🎊💥
Theres good videos and so well explained by light over dark ministries they have all the topics too
A tip I would like to add is if the Kingdom Hall has a Library, go check it out. The ones I know of have them. I was able to check out the physical copies of the various literature and confirm for myself what the doctrines used to be.
I agree learn a lot from treal sources and share less with in house and in cult members
💰JW💯CULT💰
Look at Katt Williams he's doing good
ExJW Panda Tower, can I email you something I think you will find interesting regarding the Jehovah’s Witnesses?
I will never leave
Check out the art of Naked Pastor or art by David Hayward. thinking and uplifting for Ex JW
I love your Videos but there is one thing you have missed out. Respectfully Some of us after 3 decades in a high control cult are Atheists. Some of us do not wish to go on the next religious bus. We or I have decided after leaving 15 years ago that a deep analysis of the bible finds it very troubling. The fact that The Gospels are Pseudonyms and are ONLY stories based on " Oral Tradition" other wise known as Hearsay. There was not as SINGLE Eye witness to Jesus doing anything. Stories are what we have. Devoid of Slavery, Ethnic cleansing, Racism, Misogyny ETC. Of Course An Exodus that never happened various stories of Vocal chords in animals etc. I would respectfully as a young age with a great mind to take your own advice. Don't encourage others to read the bible as it makes you no better. Let them decide. If you live in USA I understand your zeal on this but believe me. Your best friends are who Kipling had. 6 of them . WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHEN, WHY. ... take care now. Great work you are doing. Some is very funny and helpful to leavers.
But he mentioned Aron Ra (Athiest channel!) as something that can help those waking up & also he deliberately does NOT push his own beliefs on anyone. The point is to do your own research, come to your own conclusions & don't judge others for whatever decisions they come to. Each of us has our own path to travel.
Good point. I recently listened to The Bible For Grown-ups by Simon Loveday again and it highlighted the things you have mentioned.
i really like your channel personally as a sort of fundamentalist christian. but i dont hold the same beleifs as you, while yes i do belive that evolution does exist in the form of adaptation but i dont belive that 1 cell 5 billion years ago turned into all of the living organisms in the world, in my perspective due to how fine tuned the universe is, i believe there is a creator and i have just chose the God of jacob isaac and abraham to be my God, but i do understand where you are coming from
Me watching this being Catholic 👁👄👁
PIMA ( apathetic )
Furry!!!!!!!
Okay no longer being a JW is fine. But denying Jesus and no longer continuing your relationship with Christ is completely different. I was never a JW but I am and will always be a follower of Christ because He is the truth. He loves us very much. Repent from your sins🙏🏾
Would you please stop preaching to me?
You aren't proving your point at all.
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You need to deconstruct YOURSELF!!
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
What?
@@beetee6434
Don't try to make sense of it. Mr DC is a rabid WT apologist, and he thinks by posting this random nonsense it somehow proves JWs are the only true religion. He asserts that Jesus is the leader of the JWs, but ignores the fact that WT says the governing body and the elders are the leaders. Mr. DC knows even less about his own religion than he does about the Bible, which is dismal at best.
@@adamantiumbullet9215just ignore them their Greek is incorrect and inaccurate but they won’t debate it if you try to question them. They will also ignore any parts that could contradict their views and can’t understand that the gospels do vary in their interpretations and beliefs.
Collosians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one
John 14:8 whomever has seen me, has seen the Father
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am
Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever
And of course John 1:1
Εν άρχη ην ο λόγος, και ο λόγος ην προς τον θεον , και θεός ην ο λόγος
@@adamantiumbullet9215 WHAT A LIAR! You said "WT says the governing body and the elders are the leaders" then post the WT article that the GB says they are the LEADERs in the Congregations. you cannot stop lying don't you. LEADING people to GOD and CHrist is DIFFERENT from being the LEADER in the Congregation who is Christ. Know the difference, LIAR!