Pricing has been announce. Starting at 279,900 RMB (~39,250USD) for the smaller battery. And 299,900RMB (~42,000 USD) for the larger pack. So higher than I guessed 🥲
good 1st look ! good title btw, totally agree and i wish i could get my hands on one. About the materials, do you think its easy to clean? especially the floor materials. Could you please let us know more about the practicality? door bin sizes, glovebox, overall storage, does it have a "frunk"? Also it would be really nice to know if they plan to ship it to the EU. If so...an updated price would be very welcomed :) Thanks m8
@@Frosty3k there isn’t an abundance of interior storage and pockets. You have two in the console that are identical. A very small compartment under the Center console armrest. There is a fairly deep glove box. There is no frunk as far as I’m aware.
TBH, BUZZ is not the right comparison but the ID4 or the Golf Sportsvan. From the short bonnet you would expect huge space in the inside for a third row, but there isn't. The Trunk is tiny. Somewhere the coud be space was completely wasted. The VW caddy or VW Touran is also only 4.6m has a longer bonnet and they have a third row. This is not a MPV but a taller Limousine with cool bus doors. Especially the cargo space, is a disappointment, that there aren't at least 2 small seats.
Love this! Love Zeekr ❤️ this reminds me a little of the original Audi A2. As of somone has taken one and put it on steroids and then inflated it a little more 😉
This one was the one that i liked from china motor show - great car with tons of features - sad thing we will not see this in Europe anytime soon - probably. 😢
@ you joking right:) EU already destroyed car industry with Green Energy and high cost of electricity now they try to put high import taxes for China cos they know they cars are OLD compered to Chinese brands:)
toned down voice at the beginning tiny bit bother me until the doors opened in this car! nice touch!👍 Definitely a good MPV which has more utility. The large interior space allows for more movement or leg room if repurposing an EV as a room for anything like office/entertainment or even sleep? Speaking of sleep, I think the only negative for me is the automation of the seats and its added cost. I prefer manually moving the front seats including user removeable passenger seat completely.
I see what you mean. I guess "manual seats" don't fit right with Zeekr's brand positioning as a premium product...maybe we'll get a more manual Geely galaxy version
Awesome video. Just so you know, the new model does have a fairly large tv built into the back of the front seat. It’s a touch screen and comes with lifetime free 5g wireless streaming for music and movies. You can just speak in Chinese and say “play Peppa Pig” and it just works… These cars are updating so quick. Also the center table I saw in the display room is huge. I’m gonna go test drive this thing soon. Just finished test driving the new Zeekr 009 refresh and that was just crazy. Excited to give this a go too and the price is a steal.
cool about the TV. the large table should be the same as the one in the video. it’s made up of the four small tables in an arrangement to be one single large one
Incredible review. Beautiful shots, i love the clips of the chairs and console in action, nice and bright and clear sound. Your script is always good. One of the most polished reviews I've seen in a while. I want one too 🥲
As for now, no 3 row version. Zeekr already have the Zeekr 009 which is a three row EV MPV and there are plenty of three row EV MPVs on the market in China. if the Mix was three row it would lose its seat magic
Looks amazing... But We have small children. They dont need loads of space, we need loads of space in the boot. The ID Buzz in the UK is 20cm longer but has more than double the boot space at 1121 litres. No intention of buying one but I wish the Chinese could build a few more cars with massive boots.
the boot size figure is a little misleading. with kids in the back you could push the seats forwards more to gain more boot space but will still be less than 1100L this is a car really focused on enhancing what you do when you get to your destination. Family day camping has become super popular in China since Covid and has remained popular. This vehicle is aimed at that market
As for overal boot space in Chinese cars. the P7+ and Mona have large boots. But as a rule of thumb Chinese prefer more second row legroom. Hence why their car segment sizes tend to slot between ours being slightly longer with gobs of rear passenger space
@@sa2591-p5d Australia is a market Zeekr are interested in. I’m not sure if this vehicle will go there. Do you think many people would be interested in it?
i would sacrifice some of the funky seat configurations for a 3rd row. they should make one with a very usable 3rd row and bring it to America also make an option for all wheel drive
Nice party trick with the swiveling seats. My question: Can seats be folded flat for camping? If you want to use a car for camping you would want some flat surface to sleep on.
Good presentation of an impressive car. Still wondering how doors would open after a severe crash? .. and how long all these gizmos will work flawlessly? Being a German engineer, I still prefer the less but more solid and conservative Buzz - but for sure the international market does prefer the „wow effect“ of led-text in the head-light-bar 😂
@@wolfgangrehulka6240 when the door close it creates a b-pillar. Each door having a b-pillar inside it. It then latches with huge latches and the top and bottom. There are mechanical releases for the doors. I’m sure there are some videos on Chinese social media of it being side impacted in a crash test somewhere. As for the motors and thing. It’s a good question, I’m sure they’ve been stress tested but only time will tell with these kind of things.
@@Micha_7F if you haven’t deactivated the standard settings. When you park and hit to open the door the car will automatically spin the wheels straight
@@burritoxl6056 ID Buzz SWB is either a 5 or 6 seater. The 7 seater is the LWB version. Bigger than this. Many will agree that the old VW microbus that the Buzz apes on was notable for its “lifestyle” aspects. It was more than just a van. Camping and outdoorsy vehicle. There are plenty of EV MPVs in China with 3 rows. This is something different. Something meant to give owners a way to use their vehicle in a different way. You want a 6/7 seat MPV there are plenty of those on the market.
No plans yet unfortunately. Although Zeekr as a brand is in Europe...so maybe there is hope. But is Europe really going to buy an EV like this do you think?
Chinese designers seem to be bolder than the rest of the rest. I just prefer to use my muscles when I open a door or should turn a chair. All these electrical devices can be a problem later on
Powered doors on a minivan isn't exactly new. It also allows the driver to open and close them for passengers. But I hear you. However, I think nowadays these motors are more robust and gunna last a decently long time, but it is another potential point of failure.
Is good design EU style inside very functional except if upper glass is only for first 2seats for easy adapt to conventional use and that to optional dne to large quantity production and popularity hard roof and camping eq such as shade and above tent that is retro
I was initially excited, but as I kept watching my hopes started to be dashed. Only 5 seats, sooo many electric motors and servos to break and a maddeningly long wait for the door to open so you can get into the damn thing. I think love would turn to hate fairly quickly. The B pillar integrated into the doors is genius though and I like the concept. It’s almost like they started with a brilliant innovation, realised its possibilities and then ruined it by not knowing when to stop. 😊
Auto doors are a pet peeve of mine. I've spoken about how you have to relearn how to open a door. You have to stand differently so you are not in the way of the sensors, but they still a bit slow. I think the servos and motors are a problem for the second or third owner lol As for only 5 seats, in China there are many 6 seat SUVs, and 6/7 seat MPVs. This forgoes a 6/7 seat layout in favour of something different. I like different, keeps things interesting!
I think you mean the turning radius is 4.9m, not turning circle. As a comparison, that is exactly the same as the turning radius of my tiny 2012 Kia Picanto Mk2. That is bonkers. The standard LFP battery pack would be my choice. The chemistry is relatively safe, and is best (and safely) charged to 100%, whereas the NMC chemistry on the long range pack is the chemistry that can self ignite, and charging it beyond 80% isn't recommended (so its claimed capacity and range are instantly less). Moreover, LFP has a 'bounce back' charge. If you are in danger of running down to zero before you can reach a charger, pull over and switch it off for 30 minutes or so. When you switch it back on, the range will have gone up. That is due to balancing (the range of the battery pack is calculated based on the weakest cell. If you stop, the cells re-balance and bring the weakest cells up quite a way, by swapping power from the strongest cells. Do it before the range drops below 10% though.
Yeah it’s pretty slick I seen photos on it just your the first video I’ve seen. It’s cool for sure you probably could camp in it. They’re probably not coming to the USA?
Excellent example what's wrong with VW and other legacy automakers. They are too content with what they have done in the history. Way too slow to bring new ideas to the market. I don't know if they ever are going to figure it out and survive. Chinese manufacturers bring 5 new models per year to production. Legacy makers bring one new car in 5 years.
Amazing how electrification of cars has provided so much fresh inspiration. Makes the ID Buzz look lazy in execution. I want this car. Can we get these brands to the UK ASAP although it will probably retail for £70k + here!
@@badimpulses17 problem is there are about 20,30 or more new EVs in China every year…I assume they drove 0 of them. In fairness most won’t reach European shores but a few will do. And USA has made it clear it doesn’t want any of this heat disrupting their aligning EV sector.
Another great review! The Mix seems to have the B-pillar within the doors which detaches and moves with the door very concept car like. This what I love about new EV start-ups they seem to have some magic which legacy OEMs need to find a way to match. The design seems to have some emotional appeal. How is the space in the third row?
@@jashshukla701 well it has dual b-pillars. They are just built into the doors. You can see the large locking mechanism in the top and bottom of the opening. So Zeekr claim it’s extra safe cos it has even more reinforcement than a traditional b-pillar
@@ChinaDriven I made a very good living from producing control systems for pieces of equipment that in many cases could inflict fatal injuries if they malfunctioned so I know the issues very well indeed. Check out the hacked Jeep video for example.
With the price of EV cars as they are , i definitely want any car to have neck snapping acceleration, plus a sport mode, comfort mode...inotherwords a single car that does everything reasonably well..0-100kmh less than 5 seconds, min .95 cf on skidpad, max 68db at 110k.h, min 100L frunk. Room for 5 adults. Etc etc
The whole "China safety is poor or bad" is outdated. These vehicles are all developed with global sales in mind nowadays. So they are built to US and European safety standards. So even if the Chinese safety test is "easier" it doesn't matter becuase they aren't built to pass that test. They are built to pass ENCAP. And we can see the ENCAP ratings of Chinese EVs in Europe have a spectacular record. Tesla uses Chinese battery for their LFP packs in their European Model Ys...no one says anything about that. It's all a perception thing, based on history. Back in the day China could only really sell very cheap domestic products, because everyone wanted expensive foreign products. How do you make a car cheap or a TV? You use lower level of tech, so car safety was low because they weren't using the latest methods because it would make the products too expensive. Remember that if you take a car that got 5 stars in ENCAP 5 years ago, it probably wouldn't get 5 stars today, every year it moves on, and thats expensive for OEMs. Everyone applauds Volvo/polestar's safety and thats owned by Geely, and no one mentions concerns about Lotus safety even though again owned and developed by Geely. Or in London the black taxi cabs which are all owned, developed and produced by Geely.
@ChinaDriven In this day and age and especially with EVs, it should be simple enough swapping from LHD to RHD and I beleive they would outsell the ID BUZZ which flatters to deceive.
I wouldn't really agree its more like a EV9, it's not an SUV. I think it is a modern interpretation of the VW bus the open space more in line with a micro-camper. I'd like to see, and I think with aftermarket we will do, more camp orientated fixtures. Maybe a camp focused sliding centre console. It's not the same as what the VW Buzz is. But I think in many ways the VW Buzz for all of it's leaning on the VW type 2 styling doesn't really capture what that vehicle was about. This does a better job.
VW buzz … 15years of promise since the first concept. Then it came out. Good exterior, boring interior, rubbish software, and the killer …. Way way overpriced. I actually put a deposit on the Buzz 6 months before launch in UK. Glad I sold it . Can’t wait till this Zeekr comes to uk
Sure, there's a clip of the seats down with the official mattress from zeekr. But I think there may be better solutions from 3rd parties that use the boot and the rear seat area to create a place to sleep.
Too much extra extra gadgets, doesn’t need all of this, it’s all greedy for power and is just more stuff to fail, powered seat tilting, turning … power doors? What a waste of money. Just make a quiet, quick people mover that doesn’t weigh so much you have to spend hours looking for charging stations when you’re on the road
Ahhh nop, people mover? Lol. Im sure you want a car with just the steering wheel and analog everything. The rest 99.5% of us like having options instead of having a standard same old tech.
@@mikosoft “Wasn’t” is kind of key. Nowadays China is producing much better domestic products. Zeekr is part of Geely group along with Volvo and Lotus. And the London Taxi Company. I would t worry too much about durability.
@ I got that, even great ones but for me at least the basic force of an MPV is to host 6-7 persons and their luggage; which is not methere at all; hence I ask: why MPV set up for 5 person?
@ for what they refer to as a “third space.” The open lounge like area. It’s a niche. But a lot of ppl nowadays like to go picnicking with tents and grilles. And this is kind of for those events really. It’s not for everyone. But Zeekr have a big old 3 row MPV the 009. You can also get that with just 2 rear seats. Different strokes for different folks
@@jeffreyr3056 if it had an engine you would have the same amount of interior space. One of the key advantages to EVs is they generally have more interior space.
These are the problems i have with this one: 1/ these doors are stupid. should have rolls royce style doors for less complication and cost cut. 2 too expensive, should have been bellow $35k instead of $40k.
The price was higher than I expected...I hear you about the doors but the sliding doors are pretty normal for MPVs/minvans, at least for the rear ones. The front passenger door sliding is just to get that larger opening. Drivers door isn't sliding.
looks like there are be an awful lot of small motors to drive all of that interior movement....lets hope they are reliable...but properly designed and considered package- shows how out of touch VW has become as it slides downhill.
Pricing has been announce. Starting at 279,900 RMB (~39,250USD) for the smaller battery. And 299,900RMB (~42,000 USD) for the larger pack. So higher than I guessed 🥲
good 1st look ! good title btw, totally agree and i wish i could get my hands on one. About the materials, do you think its easy to clean? especially the floor materials. Could you please let us know more about the practicality? door bin sizes, glovebox, overall storage, does it have a "frunk"?
Also it would be really nice to know if they plan to ship it to the EU. If so...an updated price would be very welcomed :)
Thanks m8
@@Frosty3k there isn’t an abundance of interior storage and pockets. You have two in the console that are identical. A very small compartment under the Center console armrest. There is a fairly deep glove box. There is no frunk as far as I’m aware.
What a beauty!!! it's amazing how cars becoming exciting again. Much like how people used to flip through car magazines, and fantasized.
It really is a pretty exciting time for the car industry right now.
I'd take that over the VW 100%. Great content, love your reviews
Cheers! greatly appreciate the support
Genius. This is what an MPV should be. Now I wish for a 4.95 m long 3 row version :).
@@zorqis I think that's what the Zeekr 009 is but I agree that this is much cooler
Yes, or even 5150mm with a well to store that third row or carry those groceries in style!
What a beautiful design. This is going to be a winner. It makes the VW Buzz look like it was made in the 1980s.
The world still loves „buzzes“ from the 60s - so what?
i subscribed, i like your laid back style, different but informative, keep it up. refreshing
I appreciate that!
Looks awesome - would look even better in right hand drive! 👍🇦🇺
I agree. I don’t know if this will make it our of China...I hope it does!
Be great for camping or down the beach.
Like a Buzz mated with the Canoo EV- seats sliding on tracks is a no brained, surprising how few VW campers employ that
TBH, BUZZ is not the right comparison but the ID4 or the Golf Sportsvan. From the short bonnet you would expect huge space in the inside for a third row, but there isn't.
The Trunk is tiny. Somewhere the coud be space was completely wasted. The VW caddy or VW Touran is also only 4.6m has a longer bonnet and they have a third row. This is not a MPV but a taller Limousine with cool bus doors. Especially the cargo space, is a disappointment, that there aren't at least 2 small seats.
Innovation and engineering at its best. Also a very watchable video. Thank you.
@@iansmith1556 Exciting little MPV in a sea of Business MPV behemoths! Glad you enjoyed watching!
Love this! Love Zeekr ❤️ this reminds me a little of the original Audi A2. As of somone has taken one and put it on steroids and then inflated it a little more 😉
It's a beautifully designed vehicle
Looks awesome, as a family with a wheelchair user I wish it had a larger luggage area for a motorised chair
They can sell these with extra row seats for south east asian market. A 3-row MPV ev should sell well
I too for sure buy this over the VW.
This looks awesome. Want one!
Does it have V2L? - i think this would be a must have feature for any Camping/Recreational Verhicle...
Sure. A 3.3kW V2L outlet. Almost a standard on Chinese EVs nowadays.
Wow! Okay. That van is awesome. I’ll take 2 of them for work vans please. I would rather have this over the ID Buzz.
I think this would be better for a family van hahah. well depends what kind of work you do…
Out class the VW ID Buzz so much that ID Buzz now crying in one corner... and much cheaper too.
This one was the one that i liked from china motor show - great car with tons of features - sad thing we will not see this in Europe anytime soon - probably. 😢
Start an online petition hahahah
@ you joking right:) EU already destroyed car industry with Green Energy and high cost of electricity now they try to put high import taxes for China cos they know they cars are OLD compered to Chinese brands:)
haha! I wish it was a laughing matter but you've summed it up. Shameful really.
toned down voice at the beginning tiny bit bother me until the doors opened in this car! nice touch!👍 Definitely a good MPV which has more utility. The large interior space allows for more movement or leg room if repurposing an EV as a room for anything like office/entertainment or even sleep?
Speaking of sleep, I think the only negative for me is the automation of the seats and its added cost. I prefer manually moving the front seats including user removeable passenger seat completely.
I see what you mean. I guess "manual seats" don't fit right with Zeekr's brand positioning as a premium product...maybe we'll get a more manual Geely galaxy version
40000 USD for this MPV? That will be a bargain man!
obviously in the video I was guessing it would come in a little cheaper. but even at this price it still offers a lot for the money
@@ChinaDriven The prices just came out recently.....RMB 279,900 & 299,900
@@黑暗料理大叔 It's in the pinned comment. The prices weren't given to us on the media drive before launch.
@@ChinaDriven The official ..... Anyway it's bit higher prices than expected
Trump tariffs will mean $80,000 minimum….
when available in Europe?
Start a petition to get Zeekr to send it!
Those doors are cool. We need this in the US!
All Chinese cars are not allowed to sell in us
Awesome video. Just so you know, the new model does have a fairly large tv built into the back of the front seat. It’s a touch screen and comes with lifetime free 5g wireless streaming for music and movies. You can just speak in Chinese and say “play Peppa Pig” and it just works…
These cars are updating so quick.
Also the center table I saw in the display room is huge. I’m gonna go test drive this thing soon. Just finished test driving the new Zeekr 009 refresh and that was just crazy. Excited to give this a go too and the price is a steal.
cool about the TV. the large table should be the same as the one in the video. it’s made up of the four small tables in an arrangement to be one single large one
Bring it to malaysia.. Gheely
@@azmanabas8425 proton
perfect travel rocket
how big is the battery ? du you have dimensions , wieght etc.???
@@dibeerwolf1645 13:06 is battery sizes. The overall dimensions are
Incredible review. Beautiful shots, i love the clips of the chairs and console in action, nice and bright and clear sound. Your script is always good. One of the most polished reviews I've seen in a while. I want one too 🥲
Cheers! I really appreciate it!
Cool review of a cool car - but is such a big car going to be available with 3 rows of seats?
As for now, no 3 row version. Zeekr already have the Zeekr 009 which is a three row EV MPV and there are plenty of three row EV MPVs on the market in China.
if the Mix was three row it would lose its seat magic
This I would really have. Cool
How much would you e willing to pay for one? What's the price of EVs in your home market like?
Please give us the hight of the cargo opening
bloody hell... 😲😲 Europeans and Americans should be *very* afraid. This looks insane...
Looks amazing... But We have small children. They dont need loads of space, we need loads of space in the boot. The ID Buzz in the UK is 20cm longer but has more than double the boot space at 1121 litres. No intention of buying one but I wish the Chinese could build a few more cars with massive boots.
the boot size figure is a little misleading. with kids in the back you could push the seats forwards more to gain more boot space but will still be less than 1100L
this is a car really focused on enhancing what you do when you get to your destination. Family day camping has become super popular in China since Covid and has remained popular. This vehicle is aimed at that market
As for overal boot space in Chinese cars. the P7+ and Mona have large boots. But as a rule of thumb Chinese prefer more second row legroom. Hence why their car segment sizes tend to slot between ours being slightly longer with gobs of rear passenger space
Well presented!
Glad you liked it!
wow! A Camping car??! nice
Oh! Legacy auto is right to be worried. I thought I was done with SUVs and MPVs. This would tempt me back into that market.
That's the beauty of these new EVs, they are changing the game.
Show me how to remove seats and all storage compartment. Crash test?
The seats don't come out. Neither does the central console. They just move on rails
@ChinaDriven So I will not switch from my T6. But not only because of lack of this feature 😉
That’s proper innovation…. Will it come to Australia?
@@sa2591-p5d Australia is a market Zeekr are interested in. I’m not sure if this vehicle will go there. Do you think many people would be interested in it?
@ can’t speak for others but I’d buy one for sure. In an industry where shopping bag hooks in a boot/trunk is considered “innovative”, this is needed.
nice review.
I see you went all bananas about it ;-)
What do you think will be real world range with bigger battery?
Generally you see somewhere between 80-75% of the CLTC range. But do remember in China we are still mostly urban driving.
I wish we could get something like this in the US!
You getting the Zeekr RT for waymo hahaha. Its based on this platform.
Is there any 3-row version of this van?
@@KurniadiPrathomo-sp5zd not as of yet
This yob might prefer a Bedford van or Commer Knocker for quiet family outings.
MIX is the MAX!
5.5c charging is perfect for me!!!
ZEEKR MIX Das Auto 😮😂❤
i would sacrifice some of the funky seat configurations for a 3rd row. they should make one with a very usable 3rd row and bring it to America also make an option for all wheel drive
@@BarryGGould Here in the Chinese EV market there are plenty of 3-row MPVs. This is something a bit different
Nice party trick with the swiveling seats. My question: Can seats be folded flat for camping? If you want to use a car for camping you would want some flat surface to sleep on.
There's a mode that allows you to put in the official mattress
@@AnastassiyaNaas yep, one of the options is a camping mattress
I love it 😍😍😍😍
Good presentation of an impressive car.
Still wondering how doors would open after a severe crash? .. and how long all these gizmos will work flawlessly? Being a German engineer, I still prefer the less but more solid and conservative Buzz - but for sure the international market does prefer the „wow effect“ of led-text in the head-light-bar 😂
@@wolfgangrehulka6240 when the door close it creates a b-pillar. Each door having a b-pillar inside it. It then latches with huge latches and the top and bottom.
There are mechanical releases for the doors. I’m sure there are some videos on Chinese social media of it being side impacted in a crash test somewhere.
As for the motors and thing. It’s a good question, I’m sure they’ve been stress tested but only time will tell with these kind of things.
The sliding doors look cool.
What happens when the front wheels are not straight? Does the door still open fully?
I said in the video. The door just won’t open fully.
@@Micha_7F if you haven’t deactivated the standard settings. When you park and hit to open the door the car will automatically spin the wheels straight
@@ChinaDriven ah thanks mate
Can the VW id buzz be compared with this 1? I mean its a 5-seater vs a 7-seater, it aint the same
@@burritoxl6056 ID Buzz SWB is either a 5 or 6 seater. The 7 seater is the LWB version. Bigger than this.
Many will agree that the old VW microbus that the Buzz apes on was notable for its “lifestyle” aspects. It was more than just a van. Camping and outdoorsy vehicle.
There are plenty of EV MPVs in China with 3 rows. This is something different. Something meant to give owners a way to use their vehicle in a different way. You want a 6/7 seat MPV there are plenty of those on the market.
@ChinaDriven Nice, hope those mpv's get to Europe too. Cause vw software doesn't have the best of rep and I'm not into SUV's.
340 to 430 miles of range is much better than VW's 230.
VW needs to just give up and file for bankruptcy already. They have no intention of competing.
@@KarilSampson 🤔
Amazing!
A cheaper version with manual sliding doors and seats under Volvo brand available in Europe and it would be everything one can ask from a car...
Will it come to Europe?
No plans yet unfortunately. Although Zeekr as a brand is in Europe...so maybe there is hope. But is Europe really going to buy an EV like this do you think?
@ChinaDriven i would take a hard thougt about it. Thinking about to get an ID Buzz. But this Seekr Looks great.
Chinese designers seem to be bolder than the rest of the rest. I just prefer to use my muscles when I open a door or should turn a chair.
All these electrical devices can be a problem later on
Powered doors on a minivan isn't exactly new. It also allows the driver to open and close them for passengers. But I hear you. However, I think nowadays these motors are more robust and gunna last a decently long time, but it is another potential point of failure.
Is good design EU style inside very functional except if upper glass is only for first 2seats for easy adapt to conventional use and that to optional dne to large quantity production and popularity hard roof and camping eq such as shade and above tent that is retro
Is this a 4.5 seater or am I missing something?
It's a five seater. Rear bench sits three across.
Will it be imported into the UK?
@@johnkellett7797 doubt it. If MPV make a big comeback who knows.
I was initially excited, but as I kept watching my hopes started to be dashed. Only 5 seats, sooo many electric motors and servos to break and a maddeningly long wait for the door to open so you can get into the damn thing. I think love would turn to hate fairly quickly.
The B pillar integrated into the doors is genius though and I like the concept. It’s almost like they started with a brilliant innovation, realised its possibilities and then ruined it by not knowing when to stop. 😊
Auto doors are a pet peeve of mine. I've spoken about how you have to relearn how to open a door. You have to stand differently so you are not in the way of the sensors, but they still a bit slow.
I think the servos and motors are a problem for the second or third owner lol
As for only 5 seats, in China there are many 6 seat SUVs, and 6/7 seat MPVs. This forgoes a 6/7 seat layout in favour of something different. I like different, keeps things interesting!
i want the ID Buzz
I think you mean the turning radius is 4.9m, not turning circle. As a comparison, that is exactly the same as the turning radius of my tiny 2012 Kia Picanto Mk2. That is bonkers. The standard LFP battery pack would be my choice. The chemistry is relatively safe, and is best (and safely) charged to 100%, whereas the NMC chemistry on the long range pack is the chemistry that can self ignite, and charging it beyond 80% isn't recommended (so its claimed capacity and range are instantly less). Moreover, LFP has a 'bounce back' charge. If you are in danger of running down to zero before you can reach a charger, pull over and switch it off for 30 minutes or so. When you switch it back on, the range will have gone up. That is due to balancing (the range of the battery pack is calculated based on the weakest cell. If you stop, the cells re-balance and bring the weakest cells up quite a way, by swapping power from the strongest cells. Do it before the range drops below 10% though.
Yes should have been turning radius. Yes in LFP
I’d like to see this as a Volvo in Europe
Anything is possible...I never thought they'd take the Zeekr 009 abroad, then they rebadged it as a Volvo and out it went!
Yeah it’s pretty slick I seen photos on it just your the first video I’ve seen. It’s cool for sure you probably could camp in it. They’re probably not coming to the USA?
I think you’re right, it’s unlikely.
nice review.. so many pluses over the Buzz. How are the back windows?.. do they open, unlike the tiny ones in the Buzz.
LOL. They are normal windows. Actually they are large.
Excellent example what's wrong with VW and other legacy automakers. They are too content with what they have done in the history. Way too slow to bring new ideas to the market. I don't know if they ever are going to figure it out and survive. Chinese manufacturers bring 5 new models per year to production. Legacy makers bring one new car in 5 years.
Amazing how electrification of cars has provided so much fresh inspiration. Makes the ID Buzz look lazy in execution. I want this car. Can we get these brands to the UK ASAP although it will probably retail for £70k + here!
What a pity they didn’t make both sliding doors on both sides
Both rear doors are sliding, but the front passneger door doesn't slide. It is does open electrically though.
Straight Pipes channel said the VW ID is the car of year😂
@@badimpulses17 problem is there are about 20,30 or more new EVs in China every year…I assume they drove 0 of them. In fairness most won’t reach European shores but a few will do. And USA has made it clear it doesn’t want any of this heat disrupting their aligning EV sector.
@@ChinaDriven Tesla is lucky their government is protecting them. But it is inevitable that sooner or later the Chinese EVs will dominate the West.
Nice review. Could use a smidge of ambient environment sound, though. It sounds like you're in an anechoic chamber.
Sorry about that. There was a problem with the audio recording.
Another great review! The Mix seems to have the B-pillar within the doors which detaches and moves with the door very concept car like. This what I love about new EV start-ups they seem to have some magic which legacy OEMs need to find a way to match. The design seems to have some emotional appeal.
How is the space in the third row?
there is no third row…probably its greatness weakness as an MPV lol it only seats 5 in massive comfort
I thought I had seen one… oh well… Speaking of the B-pillar how has it faired in the crash tests?
@@jashshukla701 well it has dual b-pillars. They are just built into the doors. You can see the large locking mechanism in the top and bottom of the opening. So Zeekr claim it’s extra safe cos it has even more reinforcement than a traditional b-pillar
I would be slightly concerned that some joker might be able to hack the thing and send the driver's seat walkabout while it was in motion.
HAHA, the fear with smart tech eh?
@@ChinaDriven I made a very good living from producing control systems for pieces of equipment that in many cases could inflict fatal injuries if they malfunctioned so I know the issues very well indeed.
Check out the hacked Jeep video for example.
Nice car but I don’t like the led lights over the front, it’s not a cheap supermarket.
With the price of EV cars as they are , i definitely want any car to have neck snapping acceleration, plus a sport mode, comfort mode...inotherwords a single car that does everything reasonably well..0-100kmh less than 5 seconds, min .95 cf on skidpad, max 68db at 110k.h, min 100L frunk. Room for 5 adults. Etc etc
HAHAHA. A little unlikely lol
4WD?
@@borobalaguer4660Only RWD
OEMs are "prisoners" of their old ideas. This is proof.
True
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Great video but tech is good, safety concerns of cnn EV are the big issue
The whole "China safety is poor or bad" is outdated. These vehicles are all developed with global sales in mind nowadays. So they are built to US and European safety standards. So even if the Chinese safety test is "easier" it doesn't matter becuase they aren't built to pass that test. They are built to pass ENCAP. And we can see the ENCAP ratings of Chinese EVs in Europe have a spectacular record.
Tesla uses Chinese battery for their LFP packs in their European Model Ys...no one says anything about that. It's all a perception thing, based on history. Back in the day China could only really sell very cheap domestic products, because everyone wanted expensive foreign products. How do you make a car cheap or a TV? You use lower level of tech, so car safety was low because they weren't using the latest methods because it would make the products too expensive. Remember that if you take a car that got 5 stars in ENCAP 5 years ago, it probably wouldn't get 5 stars today, every year it moves on, and thats expensive for OEMs.
Everyone applauds Volvo/polestar's safety and thats owned by Geely, and no one mentions concerns about Lotus safety even though again owned and developed by Geely. Or in London the black taxi cabs which are all owned, developed and produced by Geely.
Volvo quality, right?
The Chinese really are giving the Germans a serious beating, but why aren't their cars getting over here (UK)???
Politics maybe????
Well the UK is ofc RHD so that adds complication. It's unlikely that this would sell very many in the UK at around 45K+ GBP
@ChinaDriven In this day and age and especially with EVs, it should be simple enough swapping from LHD to RHD and I beleive they would outsell the ID BUZZ which flatters to deceive.
Its more an EV9 though, isn't it? the Buzz has lower, taller and wider loading area
I wouldn't really agree its more like a EV9, it's not an SUV. I think it is a modern interpretation of the VW bus the open space more in line with a micro-camper. I'd like to see, and I think with aftermarket we will do, more camp orientated fixtures. Maybe a camp focused sliding centre console.
It's not the same as what the VW Buzz is. But I think in many ways the VW Buzz for all of it's leaning on the VW type 2 styling doesn't really capture what that vehicle was about. This does a better job.
ID.Buzz for that Price and i am happy. But that will Never happen.
The ID Buzz offers in its LWB-Basis 7 seats with plenty of space for everyone. I din‘t think that those two cars have the same audience.
There are plenty of LWB MPVs in China. This offers something different. More inline with the 5-seat SWB ID Buzz, which is a similar size.
VW buzz … 15years of promise since the first concept. Then it came out. Good exterior, boring interior, rubbish software, and the killer …. Way way overpriced. I actually put a deposit on the Buzz 6 months before launch in UK. Glad I sold it .
Can’t wait till this Zeekr comes to uk
Welcab seat
Is it possible to sleep in this car?
Sure, there's a clip of the seats down with the official mattress from zeekr. But I think there may be better solutions from 3rd parties that use the boot and the rear seat area to create a place to sleep.
The front looks like the rear of some other car
haha.
Too much extra extra gadgets, doesn’t need all of this, it’s all greedy for power and is just more stuff to fail, powered seat tilting, turning … power doors? What a waste of money. Just make a quiet, quick people mover that doesn’t weigh so much you have to spend hours looking for charging stations when you’re on the road
Ahhh nop, people mover? Lol. Im sure you want a car with just the steering wheel and analog everything.
The rest 99.5% of us like having options instead of having a standard same old tech.
I agree. Not everything has to be Electric in an electric car.
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这辆车在中国的名字是“宝宝巴士”
你是一个大号的宝宝。🤭。特别适合这辆车。有很强的反差感。
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VW buz for me 100%. That mpv got tomuch bling bling gagets 😅
Old mind set
@@kucinggarong-sg3ex🤡
SO much better looking than the BUZZ. VW you guys sucks.
Hahahaha.
China wasn't known for durability of their products. Is there some kind of benchmark or baseline of how well this car could hold up over time?
@@mikosoft “Wasn’t” is kind of key. Nowadays China is producing much better domestic products. Zeekr is part of Geely group along with Volvo and Lotus. And the London Taxi Company. I would t worry too much about durability.
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VW ID has much larger luggage space, isn't it???
5 seater MPV?!? Plenty of other - way better - options in that club
@@fazekasarpad China has many 6+ seat MPVs. This is just something a little different.
@ I got that, even great ones but for me at least the basic force of an MPV is to host 6-7 persons and their luggage; which is not methere at all; hence I ask: why MPV set up for 5 person?
@ for what they refer to as a “third space.” The open lounge like area. It’s a niche. But a lot of ppl nowadays like to go picnicking with tents and grilles. And this is kind of for those events really.
It’s not for everyone. But Zeekr have a big old 3 row MPV the 009. You can also get that with just 2 rear seats. Different strokes for different folks
The dubbing sounds odd.
Yep it could have been petrol and more would be sold. Simple
@@jeffreyr3056 if it had an engine you would have the same amount of interior space. One of the key advantages to EVs is they generally have more interior space.
These are the problems i have with this one: 1/ these doors are stupid. should have rolls royce style doors for less complication and cost cut. 2 too expensive, should have been bellow $35k instead of $40k.
The price was higher than I expected...I hear you about the doors but the sliding doors are pretty normal for MPVs/minvans, at least for the rear ones. The front passenger door sliding is just to get that larger opening. Drivers door isn't sliding.
@@ChinaDriven it just increase costs with all those opening mechanics and look weird. a rolls royce style door would look cooler and drop cost
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looks like there are be an awful lot of small motors to drive all of that interior movement....lets hope they are reliable...but properly designed and considered package- shows how out of touch VW has become as it slides downhill.
@@global_nomad. Time will tell