Classical Composer Reacts to The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater) | The Daily Doug (Episode 57)
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to The Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater. This performance was performed Live at the Boston Opera House. I have great respect for these incredible musicians!
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Once I've read this about John Petrucci: "John arpeggio's is so clean that kills 99,9% of bacteria" :D
I read that also. It is one of the cleverest reaction comments I have ever come across.
On the new LTE 3 teaser?
Yes
Spat water 😂
Lol, now that's funny!
The guitarist and bassist attended Berklee College of Music. And the keyboardist was accepted to Juilliard at age nine. Not surprising that they are so good.
And Mangini taught at Berklee.
And Mangini was the professor at Berklee
What? Age NINE?! I had no idea Jordan Rudess was that proficient
@@Adixon5 :::::Jordan in 2nd grade::::
Jordan’s teacher-“Your son played the piano very well in class today”
Jordan’s mom: “but my son doesn’t play the piano!”
True story.
Thw drummer of original lineup as well i think.
Reactor: Cant the drummer do something more intersting?
Meanwhile the drummer: playing nested tuplets and through 130 time signature changes
Does he do 130 time signature changes when he does a stale double kick for 4 bars? No? Then stfu cause that's what he means.
@@RAAZR- where u live
@@HerbalistGuybrush Denmark. Totally irrelevant.
@@RAAZR- Fitting self-discription
Don't mind him. He mostly only cares about key progression, different scales played and sometimes what the lyric means.
He had little to none care about the different things the drummer did. About the different time signature and all.
Oh, he did mention the time measure at 14th minute. but strangely he did not mention the drummer that guards it.. 😜
"cant the drummer do something more interesting" ... in Dance of Eternity... bold comment :-D
Finally, finally!!
More like "ignorant comment" than bold.
@@nicholastotoro7721 mangini has raped the song in terms of dynamics, so his technique only shows when displaying raw power
@@yanava
I'm speaking more to the drum parts themselves than Mangini's performance. I'm not particularly a Mangini fan.
He was referring to bass drum line, which is not the most complex relative to the rest of the time signatures...
As a bass player that holds John Myung in such high esteem, I am so happy to finally see a reactor that recognizes Mr. Myung!! I know Petrucci is a beast, but everyone always goes full fanboi on the guitar. Bassists matter too!
Scott King... I'm the bass player in Rush tribute band... I get goose bumps listening to John Myung playing. He has become my favorite bassist...(Sorry, Geddy)...!!!
@@uncletom-e4461 Exactly. First time I heard John Myung's bass work on "Take The Time", I forgot all about Geddy Lee, John Deacon, Dave Hope, and Chris Squire. My current favorites are Myung and Tony Levin.
As a huge admirer of Petrucci, I totally agree that Myung deserves a tremendous amount of praise.
I think the reason the John Myung is so often underappreciated is because he's on stage with a guitarist, a keyboard player and a drummer who are some of the greatest out there. If he were in any other band he would be the outstanding performer by a mile.
@@jeffsirard8234 Especially in light of the fact that he's nowhere near as animated as he was in early 1990s. I think all that head banging he used to do did a number on his neck and shoulders to the point where he literally must stand still to concentrate on his playing as the weight of the bass guitar and the responsibility to the music is excruciating. None of these guys are spring chickens anymore.
Former drummer Mike Portnoy has a video counting out this song a little, it changes time signature over 100 times. The songs a monster and I believe it is a staple on the concert roster.
They are the most technically perfect band I've ever seen live. Like high level orchestra level of precision level. They are incredible.
@Johnny Dong I'm inclined to agree.
Guthrie and Marco would disagree....
Go see Tommy Emannuel live. You'll shit where you sit. I've seen every great metal band imaginable live (my favorite being Maiden and Opeth, many times), and after seeing Tommy, I just couldn't believe what my ears were hearing. Absolutely fucking nuts.
@@aramgaribyan6248 well I've seen Sting live and I've seen DT live and although I am a rock dude, if I am honest the Sting show was kinda better.
To be honest, high-level Orchestra musicians aren't necessarily that rhythmically precise. That has started to change in recent years because of a younger generation that is more exposed to modern R&B styles, Rock/Fusion, or beat-based music (and modern jazz musicians who have become influenced by it). In some ways, the orchestra is really trying to keep up with the band.
*You do realize that Mike Mangini, the drummer, resigned his position as a Professor at Berklee College of Music in order to take the Dream Theater gig?*
Still better Portnoy.
@@mixmixture7049 but still good
@@mixmixture7049 Portnoy wanted to come back to DT, but they stood up to Mangini, because he left his job
@@victorumanzor8984 Who said that? are you just like the other MP fanboy who just made the story up?
jeezzz, plz move on...
@@lambangwidy first let me say I'm a Mangini fan. But it is true that after Pornoy got let go from A7X that he reached out to see if it were a possibility for him to come back. Mangini isn't stupid though. So when he accepted the DT job he has contract stipulations of his own. The things in this contract are meant to protect both parties and cover things like his minimum number of albums, a specific amount of time for things like clinics, equipment endorsement appearances(like NAMM)
and his ability to partake in "side projects". So the guy you were replying to may be a Portnoy fanboy, but he's correct. Not to mention there are interviews with Portnoy himself discussing his attempt to come back.
"Can't the drummer do something more interesting than 16th notes on the double kick?" - Ignores everything else the drummer does in the song.
Changes time signature every few bars
It's pretty obvious this guy doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to drums.
Coz this is not portnoy. ।😂
@@surajitnaskar46 lol Give it a rest buddy
He just doesn't like the style of drumming, he said that...
Clearly he is a keyboard player, he emphasizes a lot on that, but he doesn't need to like the drums
It's just strange to hear someone who doesn't like DT drums, but these people are out there
Cant mangini do anything but 16th notes .....
Mangini: hold my calculator
Hahaa! Yes!
hahahahahaa
Epic comment
Lmao extremely accurate
The fact that he's talking about a portnoy piece
108 time signature changes in one song! No one said so it came down to me i guess lmao. Liquid Tension Experiment - Acid Rain :)
124* wikipedia has it wrong. I counted them in the official guitar tab
@@elBanananas wow
Yes actually it should be more than 108 because in the video where Portnoy shows the time signature changes, it had the last part of the song and it alone was more than 50.
@@shramankeys228 a good portion of track (more especifically the middle sections) is in 4/4 with no changes, that's why its "only" 108 (or 124 as the other guy mentioned).
@@fabioriato Yes you maybe right. Because I just went back and counted on the video I am referring to and so 70 changes in that only. Never the less, in the breakdown before the rag time solo + the rag time solo is on 4/4. So maybe it can exceed 108. But nevertheless, it definitely is the mother of all instrumentals.❤️
7:20 That is incorrect, the iPad is not controlling any mixer.
Jordan Rudess uses his iPad as an instrument, where he plays and does more crazy effects.
One of the apps he uses, is one that he created called GeoShred.
"Double bass drums turns me off". He starts to head bang when double bass drums starts again in the middle of the song.
@Rumble Jungle Why does everything have to be political?
Lolz. I'm sure he likes some of it, just not all double bass parts.
There's a part in 'Honor thy father' that is totally unnecessary to have the double bass. Wish I could specify the part.
I noticed that as well, the headbanging. But as a classical musician, he cant turn his brain off long enough to realize that drums are the groove thing that makes you move and bob your head. He was doing it, but doesnt understand it.
@Rumble Jungle You're making things that you don't like political, you can only be a Republican
@@hannes1734 you think that everyone that disagrees with you is republican, you must be a democrat.
2:58 - "Clap along, guys! QUICK! It's the only part in 4/4 you're gonna hear for a while! 🤣"
Always hilarious at a gig to see the difference between those who know the time change is coming up and all stop nodding or clapping, whereas those who don't are suddenly off the beat and quickly realise they're utterly lost! 😄
Myung is one of the most underrated bass players out there. He is absolutely amazing. A true inspiration.
He's not underrated, his awesomeness is actually very well recognised and acknowledged.
He is not underrated, actually he has been considered as the world's best bassist
A lot of times I wish he were a bit louder in the mix.
With a great hair
We called that "calculator metal" a few days ago. The breaks and changes in tempo and style are so complex, that you nearly need a calculator, to follow this awesome music! One of my favorite bands of all time
The term/genre math metal has been around for years.
My dad growing up in the same neighbourhood as Kevin (James) Labrie in Toronto, they’ve been good friends but have obviously split apart ever since he became the lead singer of dream theatre. As a kid I remember meeting James Labrie at his own house while we were visiting family in Toronto. I was probably about 9, and hadn’t yet discovered my love for music, so i didnt have the faintest clue who he was. All i knew was he was rich and his son had lots of stuff to play with haha. Thinking back on it now, it seems almost unreal that i was actually there
my uncle worked for nintendo
@@olimpicusmy uncle used to be a crab
I noticed the ragtime bit got quite a reaction. This song is from their album Scenes From A Memory. It's a concept album about a guy who goes to see a psychiatrist about recurring dreams he has in which he sees a woman who is murdered and he believes she is trying to reveal secrets about her death and they do past life regression. He discovers through the analysis that the woman in the dream was him in a past life and the psychiatrist...was the man who murdered her in his past life. So the themes bounce around, hence that very cool jangly piano part. And yes, they are outstanding live, as you can see...and hear!
Holy shit thats an awesome plot. I'm still new to dream theater so I don't know the storyline especially behind any of the albums, but that one is really cool.
"Can't the drummer do more than just 16th notes on the double kick" A) He does. B) It's how they're keeping time amongst the 100+ meter changes in the song. They had to simplify something somewhere so their heads don't explode.
+1000000000
Worth acknowledging that they could easily have a metronome in their IEMs if needed. It's not like the drums are the only thing keeping the musicians time.
@@GrandHighGamer they do run a click (when Mangini started playing for them).
IMO if he wants to find more complex double kick patterns from DT, then he should look at the newer songs.
may be because the tone of his kickdrum is really awfull
that´s undestandable, they are not tool
One of the reasons this band is so amazing is because each member is ASTOUNDING at their instrument, and they know the flow of their instrument. So together they are just hypnotising
The drummer is exceptional. To me he is one of the most inventive drummers ever. Ambidextrous to top it all. The double-kick is an acquired taste but it fits the music IMHO. What he does with his hands is stunning. Mangini rules ;-)
He also practices Bruce Lee's 1 inch punch technique which is also how he's so powerful. He's highly gifted.
and he did not write these drum parts.
@@krusher74 For this song, no. However, he wrote just as musical and technically harder parts on the newer songs.
@@krusher74 why do mp fans hate mangini? They are just a different person, style, and influences...
@@demikianlah Who's hating Mangini? He didn't write this song, as simple as that.
There are 108 time signature changes in this song... or said another way, "it's all over the joint".
What was it you said about how interesting the drummer is with his double-kicks?
Metal musicians; we like half-steps almost as much as jazz musicians
Drummer plays literally the hardest song for drums that even created*
' Can the drummer do something more interesting ? '
Love it tho )
"can the drummer do something more interesting than just 16th notes? " -> yes he can, he is mike mangini, try his drum solo on steve vai show "alive in an ultraworld"
9:08 if he played drums he would know it isn't just "16th notes on the double kick" lmao
"He suggested The Dance of Eternity" Well...of course he did.
Went down the rabbit hole of "reactions to" a few days ago and yours are my favorites so far. Knowledgeable and smart points. Cheers
Just can't get over how authentic and enjoyable this guy is. He's really adding to music appreciation and understanding.
My new favorite reaction channel. Thank you Doug, a brazilian fan of your reacts in RUclips.
You have to realize it's a concept album. The title "Dance of Eternity" references a line in the lyrics, not necessarily that the song is a "dance." That's also why the ending seems abrupt, as it leads into the next track of the album. I do love Dream Theater, but their instrumental sections sometimes do meander a lot. This one does that, but it also has a lot of parts that make more sense when you realize they are referencing other parts of the music, in an overture kind of way. One part references an earlier, related piece "Metropolis Pt1," this album as a whole is "Pt2." Cool vid though. I'll give you a sub and check out more.
Also, you could say that:
Dance ~ Movement
Eternity ~ Time
Considering the time signature changes, we could imply that the only thing dancing in the song is Time.
I know! Everytime I watch anyone react to this song, I always imagine the strains of piano from "One Last Time" instead of it ending abruptly like that.
This is what over 140 time signatures sounds like. Absolutely extraordinary
I kept waiting for the revelation that the band shows a heavy influence of Gustav Mahler.
As much as I love Rush and Iron Maiden, I think Dream Theater take the prize for dedication to musical extravagance and knowledge. These guys understand... It... All.
@lunely-muhlennial-mensch the Ist To be fair, I don't KNOW that they are, I just think they are by listening to their music; especially the earlier stuff. Dance of Eternity, Metropolis, etc.
Fast forward 3 years... and Doug is SO STOKED to be going to the DT 40th anniversary tour show in another month. Love the progression!
You're on a roll with the longer pieces lately. Wooooooo! This really shows this reaction channel isn't going for the easy views, but is about pure dedication and unbiased analysis. There is one magnus opus missing though... One which no composer ever dared to dissect: X-Japan's "The Art Of Life".
This heavily orchestrated piece (recorded with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra) comprises several passages of varying speeds and instrumentation, including numerous verses, with no set chorus, several harmonized guitar solos, and eight minutes performed solely on piano.
The music was inspired by Schubert's Unfinished Symphony.
In 2011, drummer, pianist and main composer Yoshiki recalled that he wrote the song in roughly two weeks and that recording took approximately two years (!!). As for the lyrical theme, he said he drew from his own life, particularly from how he felt suicidal when his father died.
"Can't the drummer do something more interesting than 16th notes on the double kick?"
And this is why people hate the critics.
ya. nevermind the stuff he's doing on top of the 16th notes. but i think he's realized by now after seeing some of his other DT reactions after this video lol
Its overwhelming, like a hammer. YES!
Nailed it. *Dad joke intended*
Look up “The odd time signatures of The Dance of Eternity” where the original drummer Mike Portnoy shows the time signature. It’s insane....
but doug would be triggered once it got to the 4/4 bars with 16th notes on the bass drums
Fun facts. There's a ton of connections to Berklee School of Music. Petrucci (guitar) and Myung (bass) went there for a year and a half. Mangini (drums) was an associate professor at Berklee. The orchestra is assembled from Berklee students. Rudess (keys) is the lone except who was a product of Juiliard, but his protege Eren Basbug is the conductor of the orchestra who was also a Berklee student at the time. It's sort of school band kind of situation I guess ;)
i thought this show was Portnoy not Mangini atlest i think it was before Mangini joined?
@@Tommy-5684this is a Portnoy composition but that's definitely Mangini playing.
About the only one of these videos I’ve watched entirely! Appreciate an expert’s opinion.
"Can't the drummer do something more interesting?" Like seriously? More interesting then 108 time signatures in 6 minutes? Omg
Was bout to write just dat... I literally laughed so much when he said dat! 😂😂
@@vitorferreira8899 dat = so gangsta!
Well, its kinda difficult to catch that on the first listen, specially in a live version
He said 'more interesting than 16th notes on the double pedal'. He wasn't referring to the whole piece.
If you do too much something it becomes uninteresting
I just found your channel and I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you so much for sharing!
I would recommend you listen to the whole album "Scenes from a memory" so that you understand the context of Dance of Eternity. Probably a better experience!
I'd recommend listening to Metropolis part 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper directly before the album
I'd recommend this person develop an ear for music
The best possible song by Dream Theater for your style of reaction is definitely Octavarium, it's simply a musical masterpiece. You just have to take into account the context of the album it's on. I'd kill to see you react to this one.
This comment deserves to be upvoted like crazy. That would be a pretty interesting reaction !
He already did
@@Drewhardin96 he didn't at the time of the comment. I'm glad he did, I was certain he would love it !
@@ConkersBFD oh wow I didn’t even realize this was 4 months ago. My b
@@Drewhardin96 Yeah, not 4 months ago when I made this comment, bruh
You: I don't like double kick.
Me: Your opinion no longer matters to me.
I don't think he's been exposed enough to realize that Mangini can play a single kick just as fast.
Very mature of you.
@@Chris-yj2di Please explain what this has to do with maturity.
Hahahaha! :D
@@aaizner847 because you disagree with one thing that is *subjective* you disregard his entire opinion. Making you immature
You make the only reaction videos on RUclips that I truly learn from!!!
This isn’t even power metal or death metal and the double kick already overwhelms you. lol
infant annihilator. That is a thing.
@@landonpeckham7752 *blasphemian intensifies*
@@landonpeckham7752 Someone recommended "The Devil's name is Surveillance" by Meshuggah :) Now that's an anxiety inducing bass drum.
@@Maldito011316 ya think lol
Thank you very much for your scepticism, Doug! It's not easy to keep up real musical virtues amongst all of these freaking fans.
9:03 dude i love this guy but when he said this it kind of took me out of the mindset that he is a very smart appreciator of all music. I understand if you don't like the double bass, but for you to say this and not even comment on everything else he (one of the greatest drummers of all time) is doing just displays that you don't really appreciate the sheer talent and complexity of mangini (and portnoy). I mean really you literally said this and its widely known one of the most complex songs for drumming of all time
Double kick provides energy and drive. If it wasn’t there it would be empty. Get on board with it.
He has. This was early in his metal reactions.
Every time he balks at Mangini God kills a kitten.
Hahaha!! Not everybody enjoys double bass, unfortunately. If it's overused it can be pretty annoying since it'll take a lot of the groove away, but when it's placed correctly it's amazing. Even Mike Portnoy on some tracks off of Black Clouds used way too much double kick in my opinion. Shattered Fortress being a good example.
@@michaelflorczyk1394 haha very true.
Hehehehe :P
Its still an amazing song🤟
"I'm sure it's very, very complex." Yes. Yes it is.
There's a recent violin cover of this song by Unlucky Morpheus that's pretty good.
That was so good
Their cover of "Far Beyond the Sun" by Yngwie is somehow even better. They are a ridiculously talented group of musicians
4:29 the double kick drum is definitory of the metal genre, from Power to Black Metal, it's what we strive for. But I get you... for I can't bear listening to some of Beethoven's simphonies like the 5th or the 9th cause those stacattos all over it create on me the same efect.
HAHA! Taking the double bass onslaught out of heavy metal music would be like telling Beethoven only to write in 4\4 time.
Well he wrote most of the time in 4/4 and 3/4, but mostly in 4/4
Pretty new to the channel, subscribed and loving it! I'm pretty sure there are 108 different time signatures in this song.
Dance of eternety is part of an concept album, you realy have to listen to the whole album to get it..... This song is just a part of a story
Difficult to do this nowadays in Spotify time , there's a cut between the songs...
That's amazing to think about CDs concept's
Not only do these guys know what they're doing, they play the song exactly like it was recorded on the album. Very well practiced. Definitely a band worth seeing live.
Huge respect to the conductor also - conducting an Orchester with that many time signatures is hell of a task!
Seriously dude, you're really funny. Gonna subscribe and watch all the vids on your channel because you have a lot of songs that I like
As a retired drummer, I love DT for their chord changes...
Petrucci was an alumni of Berklee school of music. He has some strong fundamentals.
Ya know when I first was introduced to Dream Theater, I had the same reaction about the "machine-gun" bass drum.. but after listening for a lot longer, I found it fit the dimension and feel of the music.. it's is intensity is immersive.. (imho)
It ends abruptly and goes right to the last song. I appreciate your commentary. I've seen them six times.
I think you should react to Symphony X - The Odyssey. It’s about time
That would fit this channel sooo well.
yeeeeeees
without a doubt. H I G H L Y R E C O M M E N D E D
yessssssssssssssss that song is truly a journey. practically a mini symphony, that song
I second that 👍
Symphony X 👍
The most important thing about this piece for me as a drummer is that this was a response to a challenge; DT changes time signatures so many times and never reuses one throughout the entire piece.
I highly recommend you check out the band Meshuggah. They take the sound of extreme metal and entwine it with incredibly complex yet percussive rhythyms that are both headbangable and mind-blowing. Songs like Bleed, Clockworks, and Dancers to a Discordant system show this off well and they are absolutely masters of polyrhythyms.
He'll probably hate it coz "dOuBlE bAsS"
I'll go back a bit where their "Progressive" side was extraordinary . . . "Future Breed Machine", because of the "change" of mood in the middle, the "Allan Holdsworth" inspired Solo "breath of fresh air," (then suddenly back into the Brvtality! Where its _mandatory_ to headbang!) and all in 4/4 . . . . but its what they are doing _within_ the 4/4 that boggles the mind, and that each switch to Lead to percussion, even Jens the vocalist.
I wonder if Doug could deal with "I" (hehe, especially the INSANE "intro")?
Have your well deserved like sir. Loved your accurate "on the fly" comments on the piece. On a side note, the 16th notes on the bass drums are a standard on power metal music. I think some other youtuber breaks down the meters with a sort of real time "beat box" performance, to something like 106 meter changes throughout the song (correct me if im wrong). Will most definedly follow your channel :)
It's called The Dance of Eternity because it takes an eternity to figure out how to dance to it.
Jparts of you happen upon this thank you for letting me know about this band!
“I went to a G3 concert, I think Satriani was there.” Haha.
I waited a long time to see a classical conductor/composer really dig deep into rock music for what it was and u get it...at the same time teaching about classical as well and how they relate...Thanks...God Bless...J
If you like that, i recommend watching the whole Instrumedley live at Budokan. Thats incredible to the max. And its with their original drummer Mike Portnoy.
Instrumedley is peak Dream Theater.
This was the first piece of DT that I heard in 2007 from Live from Budokon Album. I am a musician, I have played classical paino for 50+ years. I was looking at this and kept saying this is not possible... Not humanly possible... It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen or listened.
"It's like a hammer"... Hmmm... That's the idea, Sherlock. Hehehehe
I love your drummers jabs about the double bass lol!
I actually like this guy's analysis and can appreciate his perspective without him being a fan of progressive drums. Classical music is arranged differently so I am remaining objective. BTW, I love DT! I'm a keyboardist and love every musician and their work.
I love it! This guy listens to music the same way I do! Do more DT!!!
Prodigy keyboardist Jordan Rudess is an absolute monster on the guitar as well.
9:06 I know it must feel hard to hear that double bass but you can't call it boring in a song where there are so many odd time signatures and different styles, I think it perfectly connects the sections together!
For something different, you should do Ayreon's music video for "The Day that the World Breaks Down". I think you'd have a fun byplay with the notes from the songwriter that accompany the music.
Need to react to the official video with Arjen's notes on production. But can't wait for that reaction video.
@@ibd1977 exactly!
Great to see you analyse this, and if you love this or not, and i know a lot of People who doesnt like this, this is so immens difficult and thats makes this so good to watch.
Kudos to you for acknowledging virtuosity regardless genre. For me a whole concert of this “Paganini” stuff would be too exhausting, every song is like a mashup of a whole album of songs.
The comment at 1316 was the best. Catching on to what the keyboard does in that moment was surprising that I was mentioned. However, I appreciate this guy on all levels. Another thing I should add is that he sounds like a major dream theater. Other bands you mentioned that he be a fan of would be, in this order I might add, Spock's beard, transatlantic, liquid tension experiment, Haken. There's more to mention but considering how much he thinks the kick drum when using double bass is this hasteful allows me to stop there. Thank you future Dream Theater fan. Would love to hear what you think of the vocals being that is one thing that most people either like or don't like and no one is in the middle. LOL
Now react to "Liquid Tension Experiment - When the water breaks", they are Dream Theater without the vocalist
and without bassist
Yeah good shout! Just in time for LTE 3 ;)
Glad to see you done Yngwie, their are many more you could do. Love your love I think you have of Dream Theatre!
This piece is part of a much longer concept album, Scenes from a Memory. Dance of Eternity is not a dance, it’s a seduction and sex between two of the main characters, a throwback to a line in Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle and the Seeker about love being the dance of eternity. Highly recommended to listen to that song!
yes, definitely he lacks the context of the song
what the fuck did i just read?
@@increase9896 Prog fans nerding out
I always love watching peoples' reactions when they get to the ragtime piano section.
The Dance of Eternity is all about interesting time signatures.
This guy seems to be much more interested in what DT was doing with it's chord progressions.
I think a better Dream Theater song for him would be "The Ministry of Lost Souls". Great song and I think this guy would find it especially intriguing based on how he reacted to this song.
Edit: Also, almost no double bass, lol.
Amazed I had to scroll so far to see this. A song with 108 time signature changes in in 6 minutes and he is more worried about the bass pedals.
Classical composition is about chords; metal emphasizes polyrhythms.
Kashmir is a classic example. 3 over 4. Brilliant.
Of course DT went WAAAAAAY beyond that! 😅
Doug you are a classical composer and I am sure you will enjoy Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, the live version at Radio City Music Hall. I was there, it was 2006, and on the second part of the concert, after a break, the darkness and silence were broken by something that none of us fans was expecting: an entire orchestra came up from nowhere and started to play it. Pure Magic.
My God i laughed so hard when he said we have this at the Church....hahahahahahaha
There’s a pretty darn good chance the church isn’t using GeoShred 😅
10:02 when they were in college they used to practice TOGETHER for 6 hours or more
The iPad works as an instrument for Jordan, he uses soft synths developed by himself. This song doesn’t feature it in use. You need to get to songs like Shattered Fortress and others, where he switches between the Kronos, the Roli, iPad, etc.
Wow that’s cool I never knew that
@@metaloreo8423 check here, for example, in Breaking all Illusions, at 6:40
ruclips.net/video/-0M21LUg_9E/видео.html
Always someone to recommend your next DT react. I am no different. Illumination Theory or Count of Tuscany. Will fill your cup!
Best Dream Theater vocal ever.
One of the weakest vocalists ever
Have you heard the first 3 albums (Images and Words, Awake, A Change of Seasons)?
I think it was sarcasm.
Watching bands like Dream Theater or RUSH live are like watching the Olympics of music...the best in the world winning gold medal after gold metal for HOURS STRAIGHT. It's incredible.
Mangini can play the song, but he doesn't drive it like Portnoy did.
It's because he didn't write it, and was restricted to perfect recreations of MP's parts. I've been in this position in a couple prog bands, it's very difficult to step into another high level guy's shoes, and have to play his parts, without making them your own. If he were able to cut loose a little more, like on the stuff he has written, it's far superior, but I feel ya... I've know who Mangini is for most of my life, but Portnoy is my dude. He and Nikko McBrain are the guys who got me playing drums over 35 years ago. Well, I was already well into novice beginner territory when I first heard Pull Me Under on the radio. FF 3 years, and I played A Change Of Seasons for an audition for my first touring band lol. They sat and let me play the entire song for over 23 minutes, and just said "alright, you got the gig." when I got done, aaaaand that was it lol. Was with them for several years. But anyway, following after a guy like Portnoy, even if you ARE a guy like Portnoy, it's NEVER going to come across just like it did, no matter how perfectly they're played, and they are played flawlessly perfect, but the soul is different, always will be cuz it's a different soul playing.
The soul just isn't there without Mike, just not the same.
very gracious and astute analysis , cheers
MM is technically awesome... but MP gave the drums and band more soul, check out the earlier live versions
Agreed. I find MM’s playing very robotic.
@@cajunvikingrecords it's weird to me.. even some of the most intricate playing sometimes feels really dull.
@@SeanMitchell4574 Yes. Technically, he is perfect, but there is no heart.
100% agree. I miss Portnoy because of that!
@cajunviking8751 It's weird, because I have heard him play very fluid and groovy, like he did when he was with Extreme. However, with DT he sounds like a drum machine programmed hard on the grid.
dude, the double kicks are a staple of metal in general, and prog too. :)