The Difference Between Every Rank In Rocket League
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2023
- The Difference Between Each Rank In Rocket League. I took one player from each rank and compared them to see the differences, the strengths, weaknesses and what they need to do to get to the next rank up!
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This is the sort of RL content the world needs. Brief analysis at various skill levels and how to improve between those skill levels. I'd love to see this format more but with different players. Because not everyone in a skill bracket performs the same way in various situations, so seeing this sort of breakdown over many different players in each bracket would be such quality content.
Very true but I don't think that will happen soon. Thanovic told me even making this video took a month coz of issues with quality of submitted footage
@@Schoofsrl how long did it take you to get from GC to SSL? I am currently 1700 trying to get SSL and so far it has taken me 5 seasons since I first hit GC to get to this point
@@ryanc9287 it took me from S2 to S8 to get SSL in hoops and until S9 to get it in 2s. I hit GC at 2k hours, and SSL at around 4k.
Bro can y'all tell me why did i instantly get to plat when i started the game and played 10 games in competitive?
@@LuxerggBecause if you win every game in unranked you get placed there but you will most likely go down in rank
As a Diamond player, the main thing I've noticed holding me and my teammates back from higher ranks is how often we hit the ball forward with power, but for no reason, just giving possession away instead of trying to set up a play
That's my teammate in a nutshell, while I'm over here always passing it to them in the center. Like why give away possession.
@@chadantoniosame, i have diamond tm8 s like that and unfortunately thats why i become a ballchaser, because i could do unsaveable stuff from wall even though i don't know how to use airroll properly, but i started to rank up when i stopped letting my teammates bang the ball away.
Don’t worry it still happens in champ, it’s just more consistent touches and quicker
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@@chadantonio
I’m a grand champ, and I have to say that you noticing that is gonna take you places. Keep grinding!
Just wanna say thank you for the opportunity to participate in this video
(edit: for those of you wondering i was the grand champion in this video)
Teach me I'm in champ :P
Yea me too haha
@@sickhcivc i’d be happy to try help
can anyone tell me what the ssl decal is called?
It looks sick
U absolutely smacked up the SSL in the aerial match
when i hit gc2 last season i got to say is when i really believe in myself and had 100% confidence now days i’m not sure as much. i’m around gc1 div3 rn and i know what i need to work on. but something u brought up that soemtimes i forget is the ssl they know their limits what to go for. many times where in the end the ssl was backwards ariel and decide to drop bc he knew he couldn’t reach. everyone that happens to me i decide to stick with it and end up getting beat and score on.
Yup I just forced the opponent to do something, wasted time, and when my team mate got a better angle I went down and let them challenge for me
It's really cool to see how toxic people are at champ cause they think they deserve grand champ but then if you compare the two replays, you then realise that you don't at all and there are lots of improvements, this has really opened my eyes as a hardstuck c1 - c2 for 1 year for what to work on to get gc lol :)
Haha. I‘m hardstuck in diamond for 1 year. Throughout this year I think I have played like 1200-1300 hours becuase I almost have 1500 and got diamond with 122 hours. How do I know? Epic games and photos.
Btw. I reached d2 just the next hour(123) and d3 with 1134 hours
Edit: No the reason for the 1000 hour gap is not that I got boosted. I did that all myself with my goalkeeping skills. The difference between d1-d3 is just crazy big. Bigger than Bronze 1 - p1
Every game I play my tm8 thinks that if he scores a goal he is gc😂😂
@@zhongxina5452i have 1.3k hours and also only every gotten to d3 unfortunately
@@lopsidedanxiety4190lmao i got just under 1k im gc1
Yeah it took me like a year and a half to move from c2 to gc and now I been gc for about 2 years. The difference between someone who recently hit gc to someone who has been there for a while made it to gc2-3 a couple times is miles different too. It’s a grind for sure
The gold was miles better than the plat in the first bit
Plats are just weird man.. most of them play so badly, some of them are mechanical (cuz they practiced them alot), but some of them are actually decent
@@JoshuaGames4076Yes this rank is really strange 😅
I mean it's a sample size of 1. Some golds are bound to be better than plats.
@@Kibannn true.. but we can't forget that Gold 1 & Gold 2 are different ranks despite having the same name. I'm guessing the guy in the video probably are Gold 3 and the other one is Platinum 1 or 2
Agreed
Been wanting something like this and you did it better than I imagined. Great work!
Some great tips, Than, been having fun with those training packs and getting knowledge from your other vids since then. Great stuff and keep rockin' the great content!
Wow, this involved actual research and analysis. Thanks, dude! Normally these videos are not using actual gameplay examples.
Fantastic video and analysis thanovic! I haven’t seen a rank break down quit like this from anyone else. Nice job
I'm commenting about players who don't flip in kickoffs up in plat/diamond (was me) It's due to the consistency you get with the final ball contact and the fact that the other player is often slow as well. It's hard for lower ranked players to be accurate in their first flip so the best way to have a consistent kickoff is just to drive straight at it. Now that I'm in d3-c1 I'm seeing more fast kickoffs . so the plain drive and even frontflip often isnt fast enough. So now working on a good speedflip on kickoff which is a process.
this, I'm a 1's main and at a lower rank I really learned how to read the opponents movement so I could hit the ball in the correct position during the kickoff, speed was never an issue so that's what I got used to, now as a low diamond I'm seeing speedflip kickoffs all the time and while it's still more than possible to read it and hit the ball after they get the first touch, it's really not ideal. I'm trying to get just a normal flip kickoff down so I still keep the consistency and after that work on the speedflip kickoff which is going to take way longer lol
For me it's actually because I lose the kick off on diagonal center. If it's corners I go for boost and take the ball with boost. I win way more this way than speedflipping on the ones I lose
Thanks for letting me be part of this video! The editing and production on this is incredible too :D
what rank were you?
@@Rip_symphy1234he was the ssl
@@Rip_symphy1234 SSL
What for an Decal do you used there, it’s looking pretty good^^
@@user-gq5qs3js4xhere's the whole preset even ;) www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
this helped me from being diamond 1 going to diamond 2 div 3 already just because at recoveries u said boost managment. Thats when i learned about that. Thank you so much Thanovic and great Video by the way ♥
This is the perfect content for me as a Plat 3 that dips into diamond 1 sometimes… Thank you so much this actually helps more than you might realize
Thanks for the tips. I will use them.
thanks for the video, it helps a lot with progressing.
Interesting video ! There's one thing I have come around on, I remember on one of your old kick off tutorial I think you said that you should always try to flip on kick offs, you also were surprised to see lower ranked players not flipping in their gameplay in this video. I used to try to apply this way of thinking to my own gameplay, but I would say that at a C2 level in 2s, a third of the players still don't flip on kick offs, and have found ways to counter most kick offs with different timing on their dodges. I used to think it was stupid, and still think it's not going to help them train on the long run, but with the consistency of most champs players on their flips or speedflips, I have to admit that not flipping, at least at my level, is absolutely viable and can be consistent. My wife, with whom I play 100% of my 2s games, is also C2 and that's the only kick off she does, she's just developed different timings depending on her opponents. I have thus added the run straight at the ball kick off to my arsenal in my 2s ranked games, mixing it with diagonal and speedflips. However, I agree that in 1s if you don't speedflip you're going to be hopeless past D2 !
Thanks for the video
Right, like it's cool n all but I'd rather just not let the ball fly at the goal that's the important part. Or the goalie should wait till after kickoff to leave the net open for a second.
You should do a video on estimating the hapiness of each rank. Overall outlook on game, reactions to great goals. How much they watch videos. What they do to stay happy when not playing. Idk just an idea. Cool video
Stopped playing after 4K hours and hitting GC. Had an absolute blast playing with friends and still watch pro games, but sweating ranked 2s as a solo Q is brutal tbh. When my friends stopped playing, so did I.
This video truly was nice to watch and I can see you put a lot of effort to it, there's just one thing that I think could be improved : when you're trying to teach someone something, it's important to give actionnable advice.
There are points in the video where you advise the players to play faster, think faster, etc., but it's not really something you can work on by itself. Players in higher ranks DO play faster, but you can't really improve by solely trying to do so.
So, pointing out the fact that there is a speed difference between ranks can be a good thing, but you can't really tell someone to play faster or think faster.
Other than that, once again, I enjoyed the video, it was really well put together, and I can't wait to delve even more in your RL content !
Weirdly such a useful video. Currently GC1 but not sure what else there is to do but now I know what my next steps for improvement are.
Really really good video 🔥
Great vid!
Very good video, I enjoyed it a lot. Puts all the ranks in a nice perception. Very low Grand Champ/very high Champ here.
Ty very helpful!
Thank you for your videos I watched your guides and in under 50 hrs of game time I landed in gold 2 in 3v3 ty ty
Thanks for making content 🙏🏼🫵🏽🤌🏼
It's also okay not to rank up or get better, long as you're having fun.
W vid, rlly entertaining
Loving the clarity of this video. What is the name/code of the trainingpack?
LEGENDS BACK WITH A BANGER
@@downpipe9935 ever watch any of his twitch streams they aren’t dead
im hard stuck c3 tbh i know what im lacking but im just lazy to actually practice on it. this game is just crazy that you can dedicate so many hours and still not improve if youre not doing it right
as a fellow c3 hardstuck i feel that XD
Yes sir right there with y’all lol, high c2-c3 feels like a Smurf and a gc since 2003 on every team!
I feel like in champ in OCE, you will see everything between speedflip wave dash kick offs to just driving at the ball
Thank you for letting me participate! These tips are so helpful! Yes, I know, I was a champ that didnt speed flip and I hated it. For some reason I just couldnt get the movement down. But after coming back from Boston LAN Ive had more confidence and have started speed flipping in every game since.
What div are u in champ?
you could just front flip
hijacking this comment to say all big channels won't teach you how to get to the next rank. they make money off of coaching. some small channels aren't so greedy.
i swear if this gets deleted lol
@@Lynix27 I could but my basic kickoff got me all the way to peak GC1 so I didnt see a point to change something that's working. Also if I want to flip on a kickoff I want to do it right with an actual speed kickoff.
@@jaxminute9907 As of right now Im C2 div 3 I believe
Love ur vids
Hey Thanovic , thanks for the video. As a player who just can't seem to get even gold, I wanted to see what they do different. It really helped. By the way, do you know how to get workshop maps? I have a PC, I just don't know how to get them on my computer.
How is the gold better than the plat at speed trials 💀
Plats are weird bro... I use to be plat, but I thank my past self for practicing aerials when I use to be Bronze 3.. aerials and some mechanics such as air dribbles got me out of Plat and into Diamond and Champ.
I created over 10 training packs so I can get good at saves from various angles, and get good at shots from uncomfortable angles
Bro some days I play like a diamond and some days I play c1-2 it really just depends on how much mental energy I have.
@@TheWorldWarrior same
I noticed from watching GC and SSL games that I play around GC2 level but I just can't get up higher than Champion 1 most of the times even though I've been at 1431mmr already and keep dropping from C2 and C3 back to C1 and I honestly think it is because I solo queue. My defense is really good and it is often my teammates that hesitate or go too late
Been stuck in diamond 3 forever so I hope this helps me. Also what we’re those shooting training packs?
I am champ 3 div4 and am trying to reach gc and im not very mechanical but i will say if im just a little bit faster it could be the difference. And less mistakes, i really gotta get that consistency
It's so frustrating how during my climb back to GC this season how many champs could flip reset but not flip on kickoff. Glad this was pointed out 💀
Am I really one of the only champ that do speed kickoffs ?😂 I’ve never realized
@@KillerFox971 You're not the only one bro. It pisses me off so much whenever I see my teammate going straight forward at kickoffs, and it often times, lead to a bad situation for us because they don't know how to hit it either.
I think it's more due to new player base from the game being f2p, where they all want to be flashy and mecha like pros instead of knowing the basics and how usefull they are.
Yeah i cant get that mechanical with my current controller, well my mechs are now 50/50 and still carrying all my tm8s at c2 in 2s and almost got back up to c1 in 1s which i got yesterday
Shoutout to the gc guardians keeping people at champ 3 yall doing gods work
I have a question about the segment in champ gameplay about confidence.
How do i become more confident in my desicions on the pitch? I often have trouble reacting quick enough and i have issues with being confidant enough to do aireals, i often would rather wait for the ball to come down or for the opponent to hit it away.
I'm no coach but this might help:
From fake challenging or challenging you will learn whether your decision was correct or not. If it worked, it was good. If it didn't, you should have done the other. But if you hesitate you won't learn whether you should have challed or fake challed, all you learn is that you shouldn't have hesitated. Make a decision, and go for it. Backing out is what will leave you in no mans land
I alr know this video about to be a W
The only thing holding me back from getting platinum was my confidence in aerials and learning to half-flipping
Great video! But you should probably update this video because players are getting more mechanical. Im a d1 in 2s and plat 3 in 1s and every single person, me included, in whatever gamemode I play can air roll and hit flip resets consistently.
That GC is cracked
I just did the grind to unlock ranked as a new player to the game. Most of my placement matches was 1v2 as the opponents scored a single quick goal and my teammate just leaves. I still won the majority of the games. I placed gold. I’m far from my peak and am getting better with every match and every hit. One beyond truthful thing is that there is no trust at this rank. Everyone chases like there is no tomorrow. Hitting the ball without any care of where that ball will go or who it will go to. So many times my teammates climbs the wall and sets up perfect shots for the opponent then flames without communicating their intentions. I’ll get flamed for passing the ball to my teammates or faking a play to set my teammate up for a good shot because I don’t have the angle and always communicating with my m8s through out.
I feel like with more air practice I would be at least plat. I need a buddy to do this with so I don’t have to resort to being more defensive because my randoms chase and just hit the ball to hit the ball.
I have to say in the 100s of games I’ve played in Champ i have only 10 games maybe that didn’t flip on kickoff. Most can actually speed flip.
Currently I'm c2 on ps4 and a big ahh screen but the next month I'm switching to pc and I'm not stopping until I reach ssl
Can you do a video of how to train hesitation?
Oh yes please! That would actually be a great idea!
Practicing hesitation is quite simple, but it's a long way. I'll copy paste something for you:
From fake challenging or challenging you will learn whether your decision was correct or not. If it worked, it was good. If it didn't, you should have done the other. But if you hesitate you won't learn whether you should have challenged or fake challenged, all you learn is that you shouldn't have hesitated. Make a decision, and go for it. Backing out is what will leave you in no mans land
Hey Thanovic, I'm a player that fluctuates between gold and plat but can speed flip. I'm not very good with aerials but am working on them. I feel like I get good power on the ground and I trust my teammates. Do you have any training packs you would suggest?
I’m a c3/gc1
And I’d do some cas games or a 1v1 and give you some free tips @moryanshponda2007
The ultimate warm up is great
Babe wake up a new Thanovic Rocket leauge vid just dropped 🗣🗣
Brooo this content is Fucking rich in information and advices ! Big up and thkx
I just cant seem to get air rolling down to where I can manipulate my car in the air, thats something that Ive been stuck learning since 2016
i need that ssl preset now
I gotchu www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN
Whats the number of the training pack?
alot of champs and diamonds do flip on kickoff the players that you picked just didnt. Although alot dont either.
Most just flip but not speedflip
Big thank you to the players who give space to other players in 3s💀
So what I learned is be better and faster…sick
I mean is he wrong
That was a good Gold player!
if i compered myself
i guess my skill lvl dia/champ, but my desision making like closely a ssl
and that give me tha champ, but not enought how i keep it
so need to improve my skill/mehanics, how able to made improve my game sance with that desision making
and also not want to go upper ranks, d3-c1 is good place for me(the opponent skilled and enougth fast, how not seens boring)
but i not refuse rank up, if its happaned, i try myself on that rank
On one hand, my decision making is really poor. On the other hand, you can't have decision making at a level that is 6 ranks higher than you, because people will be doing things you haven't seen before so you can't make decisions as well as we can
whats the decal that the SSL is using?
orange syngineer
How do you play that game mode
how can i get this workshop map and the code for traning pack
Is there any tip for ground movements I feel like I turn less the gc/ssl yet we have the same sens or close I know drifting is part of it and yet even I find that I turn less
I drift A LOT, like average 80 seconds of each game I will be drifting. We have the same settings, so I won't be any different to you
Also I might add I use this first trick quite often: ruclips.net/video/NR-PPyu6DbU/видео.html
Unrelated but, is it necessary to learn right/left air roll over the normal air roll
Not necessary but absolutely worth it
Nice 😊❤
Abt the diamond and champ players…. Every opponent from me flips at the kickoff but the other things look like mine😮
Question, i had heard something about them bringing a few of the main workshop maps to console such as leth’s rings to console, anyone know if this is true?
Probably not
Gold is just hitting the ball and praying it goes into the opponent's net
im gc2 and still miss open nets
Some of my SSL friends miss open nets bro trust me.. it still happens in SSL even though it's very rare
@@JoshuaGames4076 ye me2 not that often but sometimes it happens haha
happens way too much xD
what was with the champs kick off
what map was used in the video?
what is the decal of the SSL?
This is the whole preset www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
i feel like the gold was better than the plat but might only be in gold because of something like ballchasing cuz i didn’t rank up from gold for 4 weeks because i used to ball chase
yeah u could see from the games the gold chased a ton (as to be expected at gold)
any1 know what the decal the ssl is using is called
Here's the entire preset even ;) www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
this video taught me as a consistent champ for 3 seasons im really terrible at the game lol
map code? for the movement map?
PLZ SOMEONE TELL ME THAT SSL's PAINT FINISH OR DECAL WHATEVER HE'S WEREING
Orange syngineer www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN
what shooting training pack was used there
42BF-686D-E047-574B
1:09 muscle memory of conserving boost
My biggest flaw as a d3 is hesitation I always overthink the n just get dunked
if u felt u hesitate just go shadow defense or go rotate back to ur net(depend the situation)
the worst think what u can do is only standing or take a try the beat.
@@darius8068 I don't hesitate in those situations my defense is actually quite good its when there's a ball in front of me and I wait too long to challenge
From fake challenging or challenging you will learn whether your decision was correct or not. If it worked, it was good. If it didn't, you should have done the other. But if you hesitate you won't learn whether you should have challed or fake challed, all you learn is that you shouldn't have hesitated. Make a decision, and go for it. Backing out is what will leave you in no mans land
Video idea: Rocket league 1v1 or 2v2 or 3v3 where everyone has name tags disabled and everyone has the same car and color so no one knows who is who
2:00 true diamond can not boost and air roll at the same time
We need a car design vid
I was surprised when the diamond and champ did not flip off kick off
i since d1 always speedflip and dash to the kick off
so i suprise more
being a platinum, ive actually realised i am different to the other people my rank. for some reason, I can control the car better, dribble and flick better and use airroll, boost and turn in the air confortably, but im still in plat 💀💀
must be a gamesense thing lol
does anyone know that fennec decal at 2:55 on the SSL side?
Syngineer painted orange
Go from c2 to gc 2 i dont know what that means but i peaked gc 2 div 4 and the difference in teammate is massive. But my peak is as well. Highly inconsistant player i am
Low GC 1 is my norm
I can speedflip in diamond and the one problem with it is that everybody at this rank does a "delayed" kickoff which always ends up in me losing the kickoff
Try to use your flip a bit later then, it might help
Use your flip once the opponent makes contact
u d in 1v1? do wave dash kick off
kind of delayed kickoff with speed flip
I am at c2-c3 and have been airrolling from d2 sooo I want surpised to see that the champ didn't
That plat was different cus every plat-champ game i used to play(im gc), they always speed flipped alot😅
ngl oce do be like that rn (c1 for 3 seasons)
@@WolfmannGames I've played OCE a fair bit and never saw a speedflip...also the level of play is definitely lower than NA, less people in the region I guess
Whats oce, i have washed memory
@@RRedEdits oceania
@@PantsofVance it was more diamond 1-2ish that i saw a shit ton of mechanics. After that ig ppl realise that just bc they are mechanical doesnt mean they r good.
can someone pls tell me what the ssl's fennec skin is called, pls and thx
Orange syngineer, here's the preset
www.twitch.tv/aztral/clip/FurryMushySkirretJebaited-zM7zoMevSeANAokN
I have been searching through the comments but what is the name of this time trial map?
Speed jump trials 1
I've tried flipping at kickoffs but it's not worth it, it throws me off so half of the time I nearly miss the ball. I imagine it's the same for a lot of other gold/plats too.
Put some more practice in then :D
Not to be a ego but I’m a champ that’s definitely have my Ariel pretty down but ground needing to be worked on
Stuck in 💎..
Love how you emphasized "being used for the sake of being used" such a massive downfall
I’m C1 and speed flip on kickoff, but consistently get beat by someone who doesn’t, and instead just turns slightly. This really makes me want to stop speed flipping lol
flip once your opponent makes contact
@@Schoofsrl I’ll try that tonight 👍🏻
@@joshnickell4503Youre probably speed flipping too late. As soon as you touch first boost pad speedflip and you get more space to dodge into the ball wherever you want.