Will there ever be a Final Fantasy 8 Remake?
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2024
- In today's episode we look at the increasingly discussed and ever fluctuating prospects of an FF8 Remake, the historic fortunes of the title, and the wildly varying opinions that surround it.
The most controversial aspect by far has historically been the junction system which has been suggested as switching out to an affinity system, or an alternative altogether, but nontheless remains integral to the FF8 story and the lore of the game world, so cannot be removed entirely. Here we breakdown the potential workarounds and other issues fans, and now the developers seem to have with the entry. In the episode linked below we recommend alternatives to the junction system:
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0:30 social meteor account? the meteor from ff7 has an account? i still love ff8 tho one of my favorites.
Alleyway Jack. Great vid, as usual from you.
The Junction Crybabies are ridiculous 😅. You have a choice to make a game easier, and you choose to make the game easier, that's on you. No one calls Mario a bad game because they chose to jump into the clouds on the 2nd level and skip to the end.
With the original 8, you had to go out of your way to exploit the Junction system. Whether it's with card conversions, or drawing magic for hours. The fact that a player "chose" to donate hours and hours of their time, rather than just play the game straight through is their choice. I will never understand fans who cry about exploiting a game. They act like Square held them at gunpoint and forced them to exploit the Junction system. They chose to do it😂, then complained the game was too easy.
Well, if you exploit a game, rather than playing it straightforward, of course it's going to be easier.
Fans just complaining just for the sake of complaining.
FF8 is the greatest FF, I don’t care what anyone says
It is. I'm not a high expectation person or comparing others. Ff8 is a great game . The story itself is excellent. This game is so unique in itself
🙌
I agree!! 👍🏽
Hahahahahahahaha
it is the best FF
SE: Squall, we're going to make a remake of your adventures.
Squall: Whatever.
That would be outside voice, inside voice is squeeling with possible excitement
In this English version yeah, other way it would be more interesting lol
English localization insert, Squall never actually said that.
@@blumiu2426 whatever
@@mainstreetsaint36The More You Know.
If you have played FF7 Rebirth demo and go in Tifa’s room, you’ll see a picture of Zell doing his Dolphin Blow limit break, it’s hanging on the wall.
Cool
Dont.... Don't do that.
Don't give me hope...
@@guitaripod don't do what? xD it's true, I can confirm.
@@willxowo whatever you say man
it's just there to distract us from the fact that we didn't get to steal tifa's orthopedic underwear in the remake *pout*
I want an 8 Remake rather than 9. Squall's Lionheart skill was so fun to use. I also liked the story and the school setting.
I agree I felt 9 was pretty perfect save for a few flaws but 8 needs a remake to flesh out certain story elements like the sorcerer war the return of adel. The garden inner war the finding of other gardens etc.
I absolutely loved the story and gameplay 7 - 9 was a 3 peat masterpiece
@@covathetech 7-10 was the golden age of FF
@@Righteous1ist you spelled 7, 8, and kinda 10 wrong.
I already *go* to school, so, got enough of that
I have an astounding level of love for this title as rhis was the one that introduced me to the series 25 years ago . I’m 30 now and have never looked back but this game got hate that i will never understand because to me it was and still is an incredible journey and will always be in my top 3 fc titles ❤
Ditto! This incredible game started my love for FF and it has continued to this day.
Gotta admit it was my first as well. Just blew my mind when I played it very first time
This was my first game too. At 37 now and I'd place it as a top 5 most memorable game for me
@@kspraveen86 Damn. I am 38 years old and I would do exactly the same
Im so glad that i am not the only one who feels like this, this game had everything
We'll be long gone by the time Square decides to remake FF8 😭
I’m 25, I think I may see that game by the time I’m in my sunset years.
I hope I'll be reborn in time when FFVIII Remake comes out.
Im hopelessly waiting for a modern Legend of Dragoon or Chrono Trigger/Cross. Legend of Mana look great tho.
We'll have AI do it for us. No worries
I hope those kids in the far future are able to enjoy this world and characters
I honestly liked the romance with Rinoa chasing Seifer with Squall keeping his distance from her, to her knocking some sense into him that he loved her. That dynamic is why it became my favorite final fantasy.
FFVIII was my favorite game in the series. I liked Squall, especially when I was an angry, confused teenager.
Yessir
FF8 brought me into the world of RPGs. This game will always hold a special place in my heart
I’m 32 now, but I would love to see the day that FF8 gets a remake. It’s the only final fantasy that actually captured my heart. The complexity of the characters and story was so much fun.
FF8 is my personal favorite FF game and still holds up to this day. FF8 is the inception of FF games, in the sense that the story is not only eerie but incredibly mysterious & multi layered. FF8 also has the most interesting fan theories and because the story is filled with so much mystique and eerieness, most of the fan theories can be correct. This doesn't even count the fact that it was way ahead of it's time graphically. The haters back then haven't aged well at all, calling Squall emo from the childhood he had is so goofy & if Squall is emo what is Cloud ? The character designs in FF8 is also so incredibly innovative & unique, the music is insanely innovative as well.
Most of the hate FF8 got simply came imo from the linear FF fans. These are the people that were so hype off of FF7 that when FF8 came out, being worlds apart and totally different from FF7. I believe that linear audience started blindly hating on it & in a lazy artistic way. It's like when fans get upset at a band when they decided to try new things. There is an audience out there that just want the same carbon copy of what they loved over & over again. FF8 is now getting so much love in the same way Andrew Garfield from Spider Man is getting love now, even though FF8 sold very well in its time & the remastered didn't do bad either. I love FF7 to death but Square has been over milking FF7 since the early 2000's lol. If i see a FF8 remake trailer in the next 10 years, i'm going to shed heavy nerd tears lol
100% agreed
I love FF8 but can’t deny it has some serious flaws. Many things don’t make sense about the story, the customisation - while novel and creative - is extremely abusable, leveling up has the literal opposite effect; making you weaker relative to enemies instead of stronger and more.
You can love a game while accepting people do have good reasons to dislike it.
Definitely the most underrated final fantasy game.
I first played FF8 in 2008 when I was 16, can honestly say I enjoyed the game more then 7. I remember back when I was a kid when FF7 was new, this was the first FF game for a lot of people and I remember when 8 came out people assumed it would be a sequel to 7 and when they realized it had nothing to do with 7 they instantly disliked 8 without giving it a fair chance. From memory there was something similar with 10 where it was a first FF game for a bunch of people (with new console gen) that when 12 came along they hated it without giving it a chance.
im already at my early 40's and this is my favorite ff from my teenage days, i hope they do make a remake soon
I love FF8 and the junction system and I will die on that hill. Don't like the lengthy junction tutorial? You could already skip it in the OG. Don't want to learn junctioning? Just use auto junction for everything. Under the premises of "modern gaming" I don't even want a remake. I really loved squalls face in the FMV cutscenes. He was pretty, but not too cute and my dude was rocking a bigger nose. I just loved that kind of individuality. Kinda afraid they would just all look strange to me in a remake somehow. The HD remaster was already kinda wonky with the new models looking kinda anime-y.
You can die on that hill, but you won’t have to die there alone.
“I hate the tutorials and I don’t know how the battle system works” is an extremely weak critique - and as you mentioned, you can easily bypass the whole lot. And I know people don’t know how it works because they so often spam summons and/or draw in battle. Yet, they love the card game and never thought about where the two things intersect…
And this hatred for menus further impacts the players ability to learn more about the world and lore of FFVIII - so few even realize how much there is to be learned from the humble tutorial menus and on the classroom computer. Hell, there’s an entire social media platform that exists in-game!
I can’t really say if I’m in favor of a remake or not - even if I wasn’t, I’d still probably still buy it anyway. And that’s more than I can say about VII.
I’m more than content with VIII as it is, where it is.
The remaster models were based on the dissidia designs, so you’re not far off. That’s why they clash hard with the FMVs and the original designs.
I enjoy junctioning too - but I only discovered you can skip those tutorials by accident on the OG game because I was frustratedly button mashing, I can't remember if it's explicitly stated. I also disliked the remastered character models, FF8 was always appealing to me because of the realistically designed characters - the anime direction was weird and as stated in another comment completely jarred with FMVs.
Character design went in a terrible direction in the remaster. They were happy to apply some Kingdom Hearts infantile vibes over a consistently gorgeous game on its own. A FF8 remake should be done by people who love the original. By the way, I would be happy to see some clever camera angles, like back in the 1990s, instead of having my perspective glued to my main character's neck for 90% of the game. After current tech mastered "open world" design, all worlds started to look the same.
Wait is that really a thing, people think the tutorial is long? I thought people didn't like it just because it was different, I was 8 years old when I played it and don't remember it being lengthy or complicated. Pretty sure the tutorial takes a whopping 3 minutes.
I'm just gonna say it, the Gunblade was so much cooler than the Buster sword
Based!
Straight up!
Buster sword was based on guts's dragonslayer from berserk so its better
Gunblade is just a more original concept than the buster sword, FF8 has the best art design in the series, they were trying to outdo ff7 and they took many risks, and that’s why it stands alone forever
@@jameskozy7254that’s why it’s worse lmao, it’s unoriginal.
I've mostly accepted somewhere deep down that we'll never get an FF8 remake but as a massive 8 fan Im just glad I found your channel. It fills a void that SE aren't filling. Im not sure how much more you may have to discuss about 8 given all the content you've already created on it but if there is more, know I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you. And I don't think I will ever run out of things to say about FF8 😅
You know the word "never" just does not fit here, there is always a slight chance that Squareenix at some point decides *now´s the Time for a FF8 Remake* could be in 10 Years or even later, who knows. Chance is not Zero, it can be Zero as soon as FF8 is found on Abandonware i guess. Or in other Words did anyone ever found a remake of a game that is Abandonware? I didnt so far. (looking at you BoF4!? How dare you become Abandonware!!!)
@@TakahiroShinsaku BoF4 was one of my absolute favourites games when I was little too! Would love to see more things done with it! Shame the series died off after 5. :(
@@riry0kuYea, and i guess many many other Humans also love BoF4, i really do wonder why Capcom literaly throw it in the Trash/ mark it as abandonware? I even told them that everyone can download it on myabandonware(PC Version), and that Capcom is losing money because they dont even want to re-release it. I wonder if the sourcecode is released, someone else could make a remake or remaster.
For me BoF5 was the nail on the coffin of BoF, it was terrible if you came from the masterpieces of BoF3 and 4, 5 felt like they made the game just to kill it off, like if you turn Dragon its Game over in that one.
Turning into a Dragon was that feature that literally was pretty much the *breath* of the Series. Oh and also the Fairys got turned into... Ants(!?), my gosh the disappointment...
I don't think we'll ever get a remake of any other Final Fantasy title in the way of FF7. Sucks because I would love to see a FF6 remake.
For a long time this and FF7 competed for best RPG in my mind. These two along with Legend of the Dragoon.
Yup same for me actually started with Legend, then transitioned to FF7 etc, loved them all. But 8? amazing Music was fantastic, the story was understandable and junctioning was bloody brilliant, used to farm the T rex's in Balomb training center draw shed loads of Quake whack it straight on STR and roll em baby, great fun
Legend of Dragoon needs a remake.
@@Halcon_Sierreno Yup 1st JPRG I ever played
@@izzyroberts5518 I never finished it. What are your top 5 games of all time?
@@Halcon_Sierreno Can only say those I enjoyed the most, everyone will have their own opinions and all are valid. Legend, FF7,8 & 9 and X Com
FF8 is my favorite FF,cool story and best song opening ever
Out of the ps1 series 8 is the one that needs it the most.
Yeah, they decided to work ff9 while they were still working on 8. I feel bad for the game and it was rushed
@@attractivechampplayer6048 How was Final fantasy 8 rushed its 4 disc long like ff9 and longer than ff7 by a whole disc
@@youtubeperson199...i can usually understand text sarcasm, yet honestly can't tell if your being sarcastic or or you're thick as shit
The last disk is literally just the final dungeon
It's the one that needs it the least. Also 9 is a cartoon, not a video game.
The sad part about playing FF7 remake is thinking how much more fun I'd be having playing a FF8 remake. Especially with voices and and vast traveling journeys with high level graphics for the characters and geographical sceneries.
FF8 was my first true love. The story deeply effected me and I have nothing but fond happy memories whenever i think about to that time in my life as a child playing it.
Not sure i'll live long enough to see ff8 split into 5 parts, released once every 5 years.
Really hope it can fit all in one game
@@soku330 story wise, FF8 is a lot shorter than FF7. So I would venture a 2 parts remake at most. Unless they add in a bunch of fillers and side stories.
To be honest, FF6 is the game that needs a remake the most. I say this when FF8 is my favourite game in the series.
I think it is possible that FF8 could get a remake some day, but I don't think it will be in the near future. There's a lot of people who don't like it, but is still has a very strong fanbase even for FF.
bruh, 7 is taking them 3 whole games and almost ten years to complete and FF7 is smaller in scope compared to 6, considerably smaller. 6 is not a feasible project, at least not in the way they approached 7RMK. A less greedy, more honest company would get it done in 5 years in a single delivery, but that's not how Squeenix does things
I wouldn't say the "classic" games are the ones who need a remake, people usually mention it for nostalgia. 2D games age much better than 3D ones in general (particularly early 3D). That, and if you consider a remake as an oportunity to refine gameplay and story elements while using the same basic world and settings (like 7 did) - 8 actually may be the one to benefit from it the most, since its gameplay is usually the most criticized in the franchise (along 2, maybe).
People love the world of FF8 with its school/army setting, the importance of GFs, the rivalry thing and the Laguna parts - and we all know that Squall is one of the most popular characters in the franchise. Updating the mechanics like the juction and the drawing systems to something more modern is actually the perfect reason for a remake.
And to be honest, unlike stuff like Midgar feeling underused in the OG and the whole FF7 compilation leaving many stories untold, the whole FF8 concept being wasted by "poor gameplay" according to many people, or even the entirety of FF15 multimedia project from what I've heard, I don't think older games really feel like they had any unused potential to explore. They are pretty much complete, even if they look outdated from a technical perspective. Maybe a remaster or 2D-HD "remake" would be more than enough for what people who ask for it really want.
@@HemestalTidus laughing here.
Wtf FFVI bigger than VII in scope? What a joke, FF VI in terms of content is much smaller than VII, only thing bigger is the party size, with most of the characters being basically empty shells, closer to Vincent than to Cloud or Terra.
FFVI is amazing and I agree that Squenix is trash, but 6 fans are a delusional bunch…
@@Daniel_Rodrigues_89 I can‘t agree on the point about nostalgia. I played FF6 very late, after 13, and I think a remake, maybe in a sense of FF4 would be a great thing for FF6, more than it would for FF8. The PSX era btw is at his point nostalgia too. There are fans developing demakes of newer games, Bloodborne being the best example I can think of. So these old PSX 3D graphics have their charm too.
I wouldnt be opposed to a remake of ff8 ,but Honestly think ff2 could use a remake more. Could really flesh out plot and characters. Also could fix and improve the progession system.
I would love a FFVIII remake more than anything but it seems fairly unlikely given Square Enix’s history with the game. It’s been like this lost child following its release. It was the last to get a remaster on modern consoles. Let’s hope though with the success of the VII Remake project, they see the potential in doing this.
Indeed we'll see! I know you have your own thoughts on the direction Square's new CEO is going with how they approach projects - it'll be interesting to see whether this has any implications on potential remakes, or creating new IPs.
It’s wasn’t last for a remaster but for it’s 20th anniversary in 2019.
Man this is something I pray for everyday. I love my boy Squall and this is really a game they can just “improve” on and truly make it a masterpiece.
I feel like FF7 and FFX are pretty much the series' favorites to the point where they've reached outside the core Final Fantasy fanbase. I think we'd see a remake of FFX long before 8, but personally, and I'm saying this as someone who has started but has never been able to finish them, FF8 and FF9 would be amazing if they were given the same remake treatment that 7 is getting. I was never able to finish 8, but I remember starting over several times just to watch that amazing intro, which remains the best opening of a Final Fantasy game, in my opinion. It's got the style, that's for sure. I also think FF9 has such a charming art style as well.
Honestly if they just remastered the gardens and some character models and nothing else I'd be happy
Agree it could be so simple. Even some of the Blender/Unity demo's that fans have made on youtube would be good enough standard for me 😅
New here Jack, liked your straightforward thinking and talking. We love FF8, its the best in the series for sure (I've finished them all - bar FF11 and 14s expansions)
Thank you sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it 🫡🙂 and yes same as you I've never finished FF11
As much as I’d love to see remakes, I feel confident saying we will never get another full scale remake for any FF game, not just 8. It takes way too long and too much money to make those old games to modern scale. Especially if the ff7 remake trilogy is any indication. 7 is so big that it’s the only game that can get away with it. I would really like to see a remake though. Even though Squall is one of my favorite final fantasy protagonists, the rest of the main cast is fairly shallow. Seifer could also use a lot more focus and development after disc 1. To me, FF8 is a great Squall character study, but it could be a lot more if other characters were more developed.
Well, maybe I'm being optimistic, but I don't feel FF7 should be used as an example of scale. It's basically the most popular game in the franchise (and one of the most popular games of all times), so much in fact that it became an entire subfranchise with the whole FF7 compilation. No other FF game did it at this level, and even if Kitase did mention that a possible FF6 remake would simply take too long, I wouldn't expect any other FF remake to be ambitious to the point of becoming a freaking trilogy, unless they try to pull a Hobbit on us. If you consider a remake project taking as long as a single chapter from 7R, or even a little longer, it still sounds a little more reasonable.
And I completely agree. FF8 would benefit so much from a remake. Exploring the Squall/Seifer rivalry better, the whole "Garden" setting, the underdeveloped characters, expanding the Laguna sessions... And don't even mention a complete gameplay overhaul, by far the most criticized part of the original game. Can you imagine what they could do with the freaking gunblade alone? Or being able to control the GFs on a action/turn-based hybrid battle system?
Apparently a Remake of FF 9 is in the works.
@@tomrieger7253 lie
Final fantasy 9 and final fantasy 10 and 10-2 are being remade with 10 part 3 being written to complete it as a trilogy
@@youtubeperson199 Lol
I always loved 8, even at launch. It had probably the best and deepest love story of all the FF titles.
Maybe, but FF, as much as I love a lot of their stories, is not where I would look for love stories. Overall, 8 fell kind of flat, and had awful game play.
Idk FFXs love story is pretty damn good. So good even writers praise its storytelling.
Idk about love story. But it definitely was the most realistic, with regard to childhood trauma, and how it affects different people,etc.
People that don't understand FF8's love story are simply missing the whole point and beauty of the entire game
And it was more about the spiritual side of magic rather then the scientific side of it. Ultimicia is a great villain
You would think that an FF8 remake would be easier than a FF9 one, since they can re-use assets from 7, they're so similar in techno-dystopian style. Just exchange "lifestream" with "draw points" (naturally occuring magic). Junctioning could be implemented as somekindof magic-therapy by a machine that garden has developed, a parallel to mako-therapy that produces SOLDIERs in ff7.
My first Final Fantasy game.
A ton of fond gaming memories with the game. My unforgettable experience was when I was farming Quistis' ultimate weapon. I was up against Malboros and was getting killed by one(status effects galore). When I attempted to flee/retreat from the battle, Odin out of nowhere appeared then 1-hit kill the Malboro and received it's tentacle! YEAH!!!
The open world tune/BGM still haunts me to this day.
Alleyway Jack, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
I didn't mind the junction system, it actually offered a decent amount of thought and strategy in certain times but I'm sure there's ways they could keep the GF amnesia story thread without it solely based on the junction mechanic if there were ever a remake.. but if they kept it and, let's be honest, 8 is multiple parts, the whole first part will be Quistis explaining battle and junction mechanics 😂
A much deeper explanation would be nice.
It was the first Final Fantasy that I played and still have it with also its special edition walkthrough book. It was the first FF with stylized playable characters, the music was great, they introduced for the first time the Cards minigame concept and still reused in the remake of FF7, plotwise worked well and the characters development was better than in the previous games back in the day (not comparable with modern versions). Still my favorite although I appreciated greately FF7, and to be honest, the remakes have made it a much more strong contender.
Imagine chilling and exploring in Balamb Garden and Balamb Town all day with remake graphic and incredible background music is always my dream. (and hopefully it's came true someday) : )
FF8 was my favorite game of all time, and still probably is with regard to nostalgia. I remember playing the game when I was like only 11 or 12 years old for the first time. At first I had no idea how to junction and I just went into the training center because I figured fighting some monsters would help me understand how the game works. I ended up just attacking the plant monsters over and over until I died. But about the 2nd or 3rd time I played the game as a kid, I started to understand the junction system. Fast forward some years, and I discovered that the game was pretty easy once you understood how to break the junction system. It got to the point that the game was TOO EASY, with the exception of Omega Weapon.
I never understood how older teenagers and adults struggled so much with the junctioning system when I learned it as a little kid who never even played an RPG in my life. But I digress. I don't play any of the new game consoles out now, but if FF8 remake came out, I would literally buy a new console just for that game, and play the crap out of it lol.
As to remaking the Junction system, I feel like it wouldn't be that complicated. Streamline it to make it simple to understand for casuals, where junctioning Ifrit could just raise your ATK automatically and give you Fire magic or something. Each Summon would grant little special perks, and could learn extra perks,etc. Maybe give some visual effect changes too, like Squall having a glowing red aura or maybe his Gunblade has a new flaming animation to it,etc.
I'd take a remake of FF8, but the one I want the most is FF6 remake! Come on SE, do it!!
Whenever I feel sad for thinking there will likely never be a 8 remake, I remind myself in an alternate timeline where 8 gets remade, Squall and friends are fighting against fate in their unknown journey, then I'll feel 10 times better about not having a remake.
So basically just the OG story without witches?😂
@@sh1yo7 I don't see how the OG story is about Squall fighting fate..? In fact one of the main themes of the story is the idea of accepting fate.
@@sh1yo7 Where is fighting fate in FFVIII?
FF8 was my first ever FF and I played it at least 5 times already but still haven’t got to the end of the game yet, due to school or lack of time or lack of interest after losing a boss fight few times. Regardless, it’s still my most fave FF and I’d love to see it get remade. I still have the FF8 remastered on Steam’s fave list and got mails for the sale of it from time to time
FFVIII was my first FF game and I absolutely loved it. I was a kid back then and my skills and attention span didn’t make it past disc 3 🤣 So this is why I would LOVE a remake. I did download it to my PS5, but I haven’t really played it, because the graphics and mechanics are a bit too 1999 😅But if it ever gets a proper remake, I would be over the moon!
I think you hit the nail in the head in your comment over FF9. If they do it, and it goes just as well as FF7R I think Square could actually work up the courage to tackle FF8, but that would be many years in the future (10 years or so). And at that point they could even play it safe and remake FFX instead by that time.
I actually loved VIII but it took me not playing VII for several years before it really grabbed me. I tried to play it right when it came out, fresh off of another FFVII play through, and it was kind of a task. But once I reset my mind for a while I really played it as a new game and I loved it.
Final Fantasy 8's cutscenes amazed me as a kid. Even now, I am amazed that such graphical quality was possible on the Playstation 1. For it's time, it really was superb. It was just a tad frustrating that the gameplay character avatars were very pixelly because there felt such graphical imbalance in the game.
Playing it right now, I havent played it in years (it was my first FF and introduced me to the FF franchise). I'm finding so many things I missed as a child and also have a different understanding of the story as an adult now. It's truly an amazing experience.
I really want a remake but I can't stand how they depict Rinoa and Squall in KH and other Square Enix titles, as well as how they changed their look for the remaster, so, I'd worry how they'd go about a remake. Although, admittedly ff7 remake has alleviated some of those worries somewhat.
It's prolly already in the works. But gotta close out clouds adventure first. Prolly be like 10 to fifteen. Might make it a 35th anniversary.
Who knows maybe Ultimecia pull off a Sephiroth plan, with her time loop at the end of the game, then do that Rinoa theory😅 and Squall Theory
If multiverse theory was applied in ff7 remake like in mw2, mortal kombat 9, etc then what can changed in the timeline of ff8? the confirmation of Rinoa/Ultimecia theory?
FF8 is my second favorite game of all time. I don't think it needs a remake or extra attention. It's a hidden gem and doesn't really need anything else.
I will always respect what Square tried to do with FFVIII, the ambition was enormous. A lot of its downfall came from execution problems, both mechanically and narratively. Not that the story is bad, it actually isn't, but it has structural problems that are often present with amnesia plotlines. It came across overly artificial, making the reveal feel more like a deus ex machina than an organic extension of the larger narrative.
If anything, FFVIII is the most deserving of all FF games for a remake. This would allow Square to fix the issues that held the original back. But in doing so, the junction system would likely have to be removed or drastically overhauled. The same would have to happen with the weapons and armor upgrade system.
Ultimecia is hands down my favorite villain/video game character of all time. 💯 I would bawl my eyes out if a remake happens.
This was my first FF. I didn't even knew English at the time, but managed to use the junction system kinda properly. I don't believe it is that hard. Probably at this time is hard to get into it. Cause all games are kinda easier and kinda self explanatory. I just fall in love with the visuals of the game, music and characters. It's world is still one of the best worlds i have seen in a videogame. We might get a remake, but probably after 9. Cause the world of 8 has some very tough details and situations. Like imagine remaking Esthar. That alone will require huge amount of work.
remember playing this as a kid. The story was fantastic, and the gameplay fun. Spent countless hours to max everyone and fight all bosses... and the music was masterpiece level.
FFVIII Is one of my favorite FFs ever. I have played and replayed it dozens of times, but even with how much I adore the game, Rinoa still remains as my least liked video game character of all time. It really is a testament to 8 itself that I still love the game regardless of my feelings towards the main heroine. If they do remake this game, I hope they rewrite some of Rinoa's character somewhat.
They also ignored 5 and 6 after 3 and 4 when the 3DS came out.
Yeah I always wondered why they didn't do at least a couple more of those.
Final Fantasy 8 was such a beautiful game, so much "nice" and "strong". Without the counter balance, despair and "stress", not make the game more impactful... The Ff8's party members didn't experience the Lightning Returns, End of world vibes and "u go and kill god" vibes that 13 trilogy had... Much better they remake 13 rather than 8. But if a 8 remake was to be created, better imo the 8remake be a top down strategy/rpg game ala Starcraft 2 or Company of Heroes. Imagine a squad of 10 SeeD guys with Squall and Quistis going to fight Ifrit in the cavern wow tat looks fun yeah...
while ff7 was my first ff game and it will always have a very special place in my heart, ff8 has always been my favorite entry in the series (or maybe it's tied with ff6, i can't decide).
i just loved the characters and how over time it became clear how connected every little thing was.
if they ever decide to remake it imma be all over it.
It kind of already did get a remake in that the source code was long gone when the time came to do the remaster so it was more or less exactly recreated but with improved textures and models. The only thing that was really missing from that release was a retranslation of the script to balance out the compromises that were made in the 90s when the translation team was undermanned and on a tight deadline. Character personalities (especially Squall, who is supposed to be more reserved and unavailable than semi-hostilely abrasive) can be realigned with the Japanese version. I love FF8, but the 90s had a lot of issues with localization from the publisher driven censorship present in the SNES era games to the simple reality of the constraints of the job affecting the final product in the PS1 era (remember how Aerith's name was just translated wrong in the PS version of FF7?).
TLDR just patch the existing remaster with a newly retranslated script and make sure the team has enough time to bring it up to as faithful as possible rather than just as serviceable as could have been expected from the circumstances.
There are actually a few mods that tweak the game from card mod balancing to junctioning and levelling
Ragnarok mod seems to be one of the better mods as it has set enemy levels and party members have unique stat level that increase with each level so you will actually find yourself utilising different party members
Highly recommend checking out some of the mods available as they give this game a new lease in life in lieu of a remake/remaster
That mod sounds awesome. I did always like choosing characters rather than classes but it does lead me to neglect certain party members for entire playthroughs, so that mod would mix it up a bit
@@AlleywayJack it’s closer to what I think the game should have been when squaresoft released it back in the day but hey let’s not wish away the classic we have haha.
On top of all the tweaks there’s also extra hidden bosses and side quests!!!
I was playing this game with a group of classmates when all of the sudden we all remembered in unison that we all grew up together in the same orphanage. Crazy stuff, anyhow we just glossed over it and never brought it up again.
I played FF8 back then when it was released and I loved the game. The problem is that FF7 had left a mark so big that people couldn't stop comparing both games.
I think the junction system could have been better if the usage of magic were more influential on your junctioned stats. This would make the usage of magic a more intentional decision as where using a magic would reduce a stat more noticably, making the battles more about using your magic wisely.
Years and years ago their was an interview with a bunch of staffers from the FF series. They were asked directly about an 8 remake and they all sheepishly had to admit that the code was gone and didn't know how or where it had gone and that if they wanted to remake 8 they would basically have to make the entire game from scratch from the ground up. To me this still sounds true as we have never even heard a rumour or the potential of this happening. So whilst I want this more than 7 by a long way I don't think it will ever happen.
Yes, you are correct, over the years Square did lose the source code for FFVIII. However, in the case they were going to remake the game they would start from the ground up or on one of their pre-existing engines, not use the old FFVIII source code. There's no way that they'd use a 25 year-old engine, lol.
love how this game can make the characters very powerful at the earlier game.
FFVIII was suuper cool, amazing artwork, music, odd characters, towns, cities, random things like the UFO's, going into space, the madness of an inter-dimensional sorceress/time compression. Its a mental game but I loved it as a kid and always will. I remember the PS Magazine that came with it and the cool pictures in it, even the smell of the magazine, its magical.
Could be spaced out more, like leaving elem atk tutorial until halfway through the game randomly way after you got it but the other tutorials were before you got the things and only had an empty menu :P I think it's spaced out too much.
to remake the junction system how about this, You take control of each GF when you summon it, and you have to perform various moves like street fighter with key inputs and perform them successfully several times in order to unlock other abilities, these can even need to be performed at specific times and to specific enemies, they could make it really cryptic like you have to find the knowledge on your brain through memories in order to figure out the moves for each GF, make it a deepdive into the memories of the GF itself even, each with their own story which you have to unlock in order to fully access their abilities.
Final Fantasy 10 had a nice onboarding battle system too that spaced everything out so you could learn on the go.
FFVIII was my first final fantasy and still has a touching story and setting so I really do hope it gets remake one day. It doesn’t even need to be some giant 3 parter: just one large game that expands things a bit would be nice.
Final Fantasy IX has been leaked for a remake. That tells you how much Square doesn’t give two shits about Final Fantasy VIII.
Even Final Fantasy X is getting a remake as part of the leak.
I remember being the only one of my friends loving this game at first lol it took a few years for them to come around lol
Loved this game and it was the first FF i ever played. Of it's time though and I'd rather look forward to new games than remake old ones. I still miss Legacy of Kain though!
FF8 has a place in my heart, it took a while to grow on me but grown on me it has. With all that being said, I'd probably rather see a remake of 6 or 9 first. I dunno if we'll be getting 6 any time soon though since we recently got the pixel remasters, but FF9, maybe? Lets get 7 out of the way first though, so at least like another 3-5 years lol, then another 5 years to actually make the next one
We are more likely to see them do something with FFX than 8 ....
I feel as though they have teased/hinted towards 10 than anything else
I absolutely love this game it was my first Final Fantasy and it's crazy because I was actually 19 at the time when I played this and been playing video games my whole life and just never ended up playing any of them I would absolutely love to see a remake of this I'm actually clamoring for The Echoes mod giving them voices I cannot wait
I was told this game is considered experimental by some. If it's ever remade, I hope it continues like that, because I'm actually in love with experimental stuff.
Final Fantasy is such a genius creative series, junction is a cool name for a game mechanic, gunblade, etc, sometimes I just no words to describe the talent that works for square
*Worked for Square
The genius talent that worked for Squaresoft at the time is gone. The man that MADE FF great has been gone for a long time now it's FF has gone downhill ever since.
Hironobu Sakaguchi is no longer with them.
All that remains from the Golden days is a poor replacement by the name of Tetsuya Nomura who was only good for character design at the time.
Nomura as a game director sucks. All his games are bloated, overly serious and prioritize style over substance.
They made FF7 Rebirth PS5 exclusive so I'd imagine that an FF8 remake would require even stronger gen so they could bring us what FF8 was known for: having the best graphics of that era. It's my first and favorite FF game so I'd really love that remake that explores more of the world and explains more the story
I don't want a FF8 reimagined game as much as I would enjoy a game which would take place in the FF8 universe with various perspectives of characters who were NPCs in the original game.
I can say with certainty that there will be a remake of this game. Yoshinori Kitase has expressed wanting to explore some ideas whenever the game gets remade. This is also one of the FF games with the most content content, so there is a lot he could explore now that he wasn't able to do when he made it back in the 90s. It's just gonna be a hot minute because FF7 Remake has to finish and I think FF6 is already scheduled to be next up by Square-Enix.
the problem with 8 is , you have to collect all the spells in the game to be strong , but the mage trope from forever tells you , use magic (contra productive unless at the endgame) , back them i got near the end in a unplayable status , then i restarted and became a super OP killing machine , besides that the game is great , one of my favorites
I'm one of those people who has beaten the entire back catalog of FF games and FFVIII is my second favorite of the franchise.
I loved the junction system and, very honestly, have no clue why anyone finds it "hard to understand." It's very simple and only takes a little bit of time messing around with it to get it. This was actually the third FF I ever beat, and I beat it when it launched, so I was only 12 years old at the time. I had no problems with the junction system, at all. It literally took me about 20 minutes of messing around with it to understand how it worked. The very fact that there are adults out there today that find it "difficult" says far more about them than it does about the game.
The battle system is also one of the best of all the FF games. They implemented so many things that made it better than FFVII's. The dynamic limit breaks, being able to boost your summons, having summons take damage for you while the ATB gauge is winding down, the draw system (which I actually always liked), etc. I get that some people don't like the draw system because it allows you to "break" the game, but no one is forcing anyone to do that. In fact, what it's allowing you to do is adjust the games difficulty in real time so that you can play how you like. What other FF allows you to do that?
GF's being able to level up and learn abilities is another excellent mechanic.
The card system, and Triple Triad, are also amazing.
The story, characters and world are also exceptional. I definitely would've liked more back story on certain aspects of the plot but, besides that, I loved it.
And I don't think I even need to go into the soundtrack, of which is the second best in the franchise.
There's a reason it's one of the best selling FF's of all time, and why it has a 9/10 on Steam and a 90 Metacritic score.
I would be down for an FF8 remake in the same vein as FF7, that there's something a bit off with the story. It was once mentioned that the creators heard of the "Squall is dead" theory and while they debunked it, they quite liked it. I would be interested to see this fan theory potentially come full circle into a remake and maybe we see something surprising in where the story goes.
I haven't played this game since it's release, but I loved the look, feel, and story of this game. I've always thought it was an underrated game that suffered from being the follow up to FFVII.
VIII was my favourite 20 years ago and it's still my favourite today.
A remake of FF6 or FF8 would be the best. They’re old and can be reworked into awesome games now since they were already good stories/worlds.
Considering the rebuild of evangelion take 7 remake/birth took I think 8 could have done it better since it was a time travel story and with ultimecia being of the future there was always a chance of her return.
Especially if you subscribe to Roko’s basilisk and only imagine what she’d do with a time singularity.
Maybe I missed it. Did you speak about the source code missing so they cannot remake only upgrade like the last 3 versions?
You don’t need the source code for a remake. You meant remaster?
@@Klont123 help me out here I may be wrong but didn't square enix say that the source code was lost which is why they remastered it instead of remaking. And what that answer the question to why we will never get a remake like the video said.
@@keegonmiller I can’t explain what they said. My best guess is they only considered it to be a remake of the original by rebuilding it and keep it the exact same game (not like the ff7 game).
You can solve the Junction System problem with one move. Remove the Card Refine ability. Make players have to draw from enemies and draw points to stock magic, make them have to earn items to refine on the battlefield. Triple Triad and Card Refine is the pipeline to breaking the game, take that away and it gets much harder.
While I would love a remake a la 7, I don't think they'll make one. However, there's plenty of mods to scratch that remake itch. And hopefully soon the full voice-over mod will be completed as well. The demo is already mind-blowing
If they did do a remake they would have to change the draw system, maybe have it so you cant draw spells from enemies apart from to single use on them, have you gain magic not by drawing but by enemy drops
You come off as saying ‘junction system is integrated to the core of FF8 and people didn’t like it, it was not a well design system, Kitase is sensitive about junction critique as FF8 is his baby, Kitase has use time compression in FF7RE already’. If that’s what you intended convey as reasons to why SE is unlikely to remake FF8, I do agree to a degree, though there are significant and obvious counter points to support FF8 remake based on your points, instead of discrediting the possibility of it.
First, as SE defined clearly, FF7RE is the first mainline FF remake instead of remaster, just from play FF7RE, I would challenge you to present a strong case of an aspect of the game that is not retooled or outright changed. Battle system completely changed to semi real time action, material system retooled, weapon upgrade sphere grids thing added seemingly for the hell of it. What reservations do you have SE wouldn’t at minimum retool junction and draw? In order to fit the world and plot?
Secondly, you seem to present Kitase (or SE as a whole) sensitivity to negative feedback would prevent them from remaking a game or making changes. How did you reach that interpretation? There are degrees of changes and control of what they want to do. Take FF7RE, people wanted a remake, no one wanted the story to be rewritten, they put up with it as it is intriguing. Kitase and Nomura made the conscious decision to change some fundamentals of the story as they want, irrespective of potential critique, to be fair they also inserted the whispers possibly as audience stand ins to qualm those sentiments, however you take it. Their method of FF7RE serves as a concrete example that essentially nothing is sacred to not be changed. So you think junction system with ties to the plot or world building is hindering the remake? That would feel like your head canon.
Lastly, about time compression concepts pulled from FF8, used in FF7RE, so it would seem like reusing concepts if they remake FF8 so they’re unlikely to do it. I would posit a few questions. Do you consider alternate realities the same as concepts involving time? Do you consider time compression the same as other 2 concepts? You seem to regard them as all the same, or at least too similar to the general audience. Do you think Nomura/Kitase wanted to rewrite FF7 so they inserted time loop/compression concept, or did they write in a time compression/loop concept because they wanted to use said concept? It’s a chicken or the egg question, understandably, though it is fair to interpret the situation based on their public statements. They wanted to rewrite FF7 to their liking, so they wrote in some mechanism to somewhat make it work, instead of Kitase just pulling a concept from another work of his because he’s in love with it. Let’s also no discount Nomura’s writing style from what we observed in Kindom Hearts series, he’s prone to convoluted plotlines.
A point to consider is the narrative FF9 retro homage is significantly more beloved than the odd modern middle child FF8, so it’s obvious FF9 would take priority to remake ahead of FF8. It’s a good narrative, I’m for it, it’s clear you are for it as well. The only thing I’m pointing out is there are other better points you could have made to strengthen your position.
FF7RE was a foregone conclusion since the compilation, Advent Children, and the endless production of merch. No other FF entry has as much expansion, cultural zeitgeist, and lucrative profit opportunity. SE knows when they’re coming to a rough patch, they can always go back to FF7 well instead of creating solid FF entries without chasing trend (whereas they used to set trends). As for every other mainline FF, SE gives them remasters to test the market to assess if they can justify the investment of a remake. There are better points to make against FF8 remake and for FF9 remake.
If they're gonna go adult direction like FF16 did, they might as well go ham with this since this installment is among the darkest. If they can get a writer/director that can touch up real grim and grey issues like ones found on FF tactics, they could put it here. I would be very interested even if it's chopped up like the FF7 remakes; Just make the long hours of playing the game interesting and engaging.
I really think Squall is a very misunderstood character too; People were too quick to judge a person with severe abandonment issues.
Best idea. Unfortunate the junction system was so tedious. The whole fate idea was beautiful and the romance between Squall and Rinoa is what taught me what romance is. The whole sorceress story is fuqing amazing.
They should remake 7 , 8 , 9 .. the golden era square soft masterpieces.
Using the ff7 remake combat system, just adapting to ff8 junction (make mp a things, just draw for magic to accumulated and using to increase your stat, but you can use in battle with mp, leave the summon ap system to create build, and add Seed job system to customize your characters like Gunblader or monk etc etc) more air combat system and please give us interactive renzokuken! Like in the ff8 og, low health and limit break spamming for fun, enemies like in ff7 remake with a lot of def and health.
What do you think guys?
FF8 is my favorite in the series and I hope they never remake it. My first play through was less than two years ago, and I can tell you with no nostalgia that this game does not need to be modernized or updated. So many games in this series are bogged down by sequels, movies, and other supplemental material. Can we please just let this one incredible game stand on its own?
Can we all agree that The Landing music was the most epic music in this game?
This was actually my favorite FF game. FF7 had the cool factor but I loved the gameplay of FF8. There is nothing like equipping a 1000 deaths in my sword. Doing a break limit is even more awesome.
Also, a lot of ppl sleep on what I consider to be the best mini game. Triple Triad was so addictive. They will remake it one day but the time isn't right.