aww thank you for posting this and the 5 part erica learns about kendall videos. I remember watching this back then...remember how the first time SMG appeared on screen I recognized her from Swans Crossing. lol It's nice to get to rewatch this after all this time.
For me, I never saw that Erica actually hated Kendall, even after all that she did. I have a lot of my mom's old VHS recordings of this. Even when Kendall was saying that she hated Erica for all of her reasons, Erica never said she hated Kendall. I remember, at most, when she was accused of hating her own kid, Erica said "I hate what she has become". So yeah, I think she hated who Kendall was choosing to be, how Kendall came to be, but there was also a lot of guilt she felt with Kendall too.
I wasn't even trying to comment on what Erica deserved and her treatment of Kendall. All I was saying was I never felt Erica hated her and even after Kendall did what she did, even though Erica disowned her, she still felt guilty. There's a huge spectrum between the kind of love Kendall sought from Erica and hate. It feels like we're having different discussions so I don't want to take over the comments with saying the same thing over. If you'd like to continue, I'd be happy to PM :)
Alia Q well, Sarah was only 16 here and they aged the character to 23. Which made Erica 37 in this clip. Later when Alicia Minshew took over the role, they de-aged Kendall making this time frame 93-95 Kendall a teenager, making Erica much younger. They never said how old Kendall was but she is 14 years younger than her mother. The show started in 1970 where Erica was 15. So when the show ended in 2011, Erica was 56 and Kendall was 42.
Soap opera rapid aging syndrome (SORAS) is the practice of accelerating the age of a television or film character (usually a child or teenager) in conflict with the timeline of a series and/or the real-world progression of time.
Quick question. Does anyone know if the AMC writers had by this point mentioned if Kendall's adoptive mother, Alice, told her she was adopted? If not, what led to Kendall pursuing learning about Erica being her biological mother? EDITED TO ADD: Nevermind. Kendall answered my question later in this clip
........part 2........kendall got bianca away from richard. when she realised what he was going to do to bianca, kendall ran to the bathroom and threw up. after kendall got bianca out of there, mona showed up. richard and mona got into a verbal confrontation and richard had a heart attack. Mona sat and watched him die. not lifting a finger to help him.
Hey :) I've seen all the episodes, including that clip, and I know why Kendall was so angry. Kendall’s definitely my favourite character but I disagree that Erica manipulated it to make her look bad. During all this, Erica was definitely angry, suspicious, and horrified by Kendall, which fueled Kendall’s hurt. Anyway, I was just trying to say that I never felt that Erica hated Kendall. She never said she hated her but hated who Kendall was becoming. I thought it was a nice touch of complexity.
I don’t think she ever hated her, even when she felt she did. She hated what she represented (the rape, and the fact that her father set the whole thing up). She actually felt responsible for what Kendall was becoming. She said at one point that maybe if she had held Kendall and loved her when she was born, that Kendall wouldn’t have turned out the way she did.
lol funny i know this was 16 years ago (cos t was the year i was born) and now sarah is the double age then she was in this clip. and she is going to have a baby so cute =D
@sneakiebug10 Kendal was not heartless and cruel. She was perfectly NORMAL. It's not the child's job to make the mother feel better about her choices. She needs answers to questions that aren't nice. She has things to work out and yes she wants to punish her mother. NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL.
Because Kendall thought Erica was lying about her father. She made it seem like he wasn't a rapist to the world so Kendall believed she was lying. Kendal tracked down her father, Richard Fields, and brought him to Pine Valley, Erica forbad it. and When Kendall did it anyway, she "disowned" her. Kendall wanted to hurt Erica so bad for Erica giving her away. but when Kendall left Bianca alone with Richard and he attempted to rape her, Kendall realized her mistake, by then it was too late.
@@janetoconnor3636 u are correct. I don’t know why I said that. Bianca came over to have it out with Kendall and Richard was there alone. I stand corrected thank you. I tried to edit the comment but it won’t let me :(
...part 4.....and kendall wanted to take everything away from erica and destroy her. so it ran real deep. but rumor has it, the animosity between susan lucci and sarah michelle gellar was not entirely scripted. susan saw how good sarah was, and was jealous she would get replaced so susan treated her very badly. thats why sarah left the show. to this day sarah and susan are not friends. thats why sarah wasnt in any scenes with susan in 2011.
skaterboy3718 SMG was a child! She was 16 in 1993 when she started and was 18 when she left the show! She was a child and a set full of adults couldn’t be the bigger people if that were the case? Please! I’m willing to bet Susan was threatened and made life miserable for her. That’s what many of people have said. She was jealous SMG won an Emmy her first or second try and it took Susan 19 nominations to win one Emmy.
It is apparent you are hell bent against Susan Lucci. SmG has had a trepidation fir being difficult regardless of having some friends. SmG S mother was causing the rift and leaking things to the press to promote SMG. There have been strong SMG fans who like to start trouble. There is no need. Both were great actors and both contributed to the others success. I am not going to argue with some one who calls themselves after a soap character. I can tell that you are a very passionate person and feel very strongly about this. But I only reply because I don’t think Susan or Sarah deserve blame when it was really SmG mother stirring the pot to promote SmG
skaterboy3718 then why did u say Sarah was the problem on set? You didn’t say Sarah’s mother, u said Sarah. I certainly am not going to sit back and be insulted for my screen name by someone who’s own screen name reflects that of a child!
well i was an avid watcher when sarah was on. and i saw how erica told kendall she was unable to love her because she couldnt get over how she was conceived. i dont blame anything that kendall did to erica because erica deserved it, if for not how erica always treated mona. but mona never did to erica what erica did to kendall. rape or no rape. and the way erica spoke to kendall..no one deserves to be spoken to like that.
I'm still amazed at how much maturity and restraint Erica showed in these scenes.
It's so amazing that Sarah was only 16 during this she is such an amazing actress.
Yes but she's always my Buffy
gellar is amazing for so young. she owns her craft. despite the drama on & off screen with her and lucci, smg is a ⭐ a great but underrated actress.
SMG always an amazing actress!
You have to give Lucci credit for give smg something to play off of.
aww thank you for posting this and the 5 part erica learns about kendall videos. I remember watching this back then...remember how the first time SMG appeared on screen I recognized her from Swans Crossing. lol
It's nice to get to rewatch this after all this time.
I never get tired of watching this, I'm not a fan of the actors but smg is so amazing, at another level of realism, awesome
For me, I never saw that Erica actually hated Kendall, even after all that she did. I have a lot of my mom's old VHS recordings of this. Even when Kendall was saying that she hated Erica for all of her reasons, Erica never said she hated Kendall. I remember, at most, when she was accused of hating her own kid, Erica said "I hate what she has become". So yeah, I think she hated who Kendall was choosing to be, how Kendall came to be, but there was also a lot of guilt she felt with Kendall too.
After Kendall learned her father was a rapist she turned even more hateful because she hated herself.
So this is what my mother use to watch. I can see why its great!
Oh wow, these scenes are still sooo good, !
It's funny with Erica talking about being pregnant and then knowing that Sarah and Alicia are both expecting.
@PreciousThings OMG! I LOVED SWAN'S CROSSING! I just bought the DVD set! :o)
I loved this storyline.
Tremendous contribution to Kendall-lore!!! Thanks, Tash!!
The more you tell Kendall no don’t look for your father the more she wants to know who he is Erica
Yeah so very true
@@angelaholmes8888 yep
And then Kendall messed everything up, Erica ended up being sick of the little Erica 2
wow, they really did a good job on that. very realistic.
I wasn't even trying to comment on what Erica deserved and her treatment of Kendall. All I was saying was I never felt Erica hated her and even after Kendall did what she did, even though Erica disowned her, she still felt guilty. There's a huge spectrum between the kind of love Kendall sought from Erica and hate. It feels like we're having different discussions so I don't want to take over the comments with saying the same thing over. If you'd like to continue, I'd be happy to PM :)
nice hair sarah, very... 90's :D
💙 smg, very clever actress and intelligent person, I think
I miss them Days!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's funny that Erica had her as a teen and yet Kendall and her has such a huge age gap lol
Alia Q well, Sarah was only 16 here and they aged the character to 23. Which made Erica 37 in this clip. Later when Alicia Minshew took over the role, they de-aged Kendall making this time frame 93-95 Kendall a teenager, making Erica much younger. They never said how old Kendall was but she is 14 years younger than her mother. The show started in 1970 where Erica was 15. So when the show ended in 2011, Erica was 56 and Kendall was 42.
greenlee7smythe Erica as Born November 2, 1955 then 1956 then 1962 then Kendall was born September 25 1976 then 1970 then back to 1976
Soap opera rapid aging syndrome (SORAS) is the practice of accelerating the age of a television or film character (usually a child or teenager) in conflict with the timeline of a series and/or the real-world progression of time.
@@greenlee7smythebut when Alicia took over the role they made her age closer to what Sarah’s actual age when she played Kendall
@@Pinkranger87 no offense, but isn’t that what I said in my comment? I believe I stated that.
Kendall at 16 had woman smarts
Quick question. Does anyone know if the AMC writers had by this point mentioned if Kendall's adoptive mother, Alice, told her she was adopted? If not, what led to Kendall pursuing learning about Erica being her biological mother?
EDITED TO ADD: Nevermind. Kendall answered my question later in this clip
........part 2........kendall got bianca away from richard. when she realised what he was going to do to bianca, kendall ran to the bathroom and threw up. after kendall got bianca out of there, mona showed up. richard and mona got into a verbal confrontation and richard had a heart attack. Mona sat and watched him die. not lifting a finger to help him.
Hey :) I've seen all the episodes, including that clip, and I know why Kendall was so angry. Kendall’s definitely my favourite character but I disagree that Erica manipulated it to make her look bad. During all this, Erica was definitely angry, suspicious, and horrified by Kendall, which fueled Kendall’s hurt. Anyway, I was just trying to say that I never felt that Erica hated Kendall. She never said she hated her but hated who Kendall was becoming. I thought it was a nice touch of complexity.
I don’t think she ever hated her, even when she felt she did. She hated what she represented (the rape, and the fact that her father set the whole thing up). She actually felt responsible for what Kendall was becoming. She said at one point that maybe if she had held Kendall and loved her when she was born, that Kendall wouldn’t have turned out the way she did.
@@whitneydavis7443 Yup :)
lol funny i know this was 16 years ago (cos t was the year i was born) and now sarah is the double age then she was in this clip. and she is going to have a baby so cute =D
yes!
@sneakiebug10 Kendal was not heartless and cruel. She was perfectly NORMAL. It's not the child's job to make the mother feel better about her choices. She needs answers to questions that aren't nice. She has things to work out and yes she wants to punish her mother. NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL.
it's not normal it's called being a character in a soap opera lol
Erica played volleyball????? Lol. She looks great in this Chanel or St. John or Laurent suit. Assuming that’s the designer
Because Kendall thought Erica was lying about her father. She made it seem like he wasn't a rapist to the world so Kendall believed she was lying. Kendal tracked down her father, Richard Fields, and brought him to Pine Valley, Erica forbad it. and When Kendall did it anyway, she "disowned" her. Kendall wanted to hurt Erica so bad for Erica giving her away. but when Kendall left Bianca alone with Richard and he attempted to rape her, Kendall realized her mistake, by then it was too late.
Kendall did not leave Bianca alone with her father she saved her from being molested and told Mona to take her away and then she confronted him.
@@janetoconnor3636 u are correct. I don’t know why I said that. Bianca came over to have it out with Kendall and Richard was there alone. I stand corrected thank you. I tried to edit the comment but it won’t let me :(
...part 4.....and kendall wanted to take everything away from erica and destroy her. so it ran real deep. but rumor has it, the animosity between susan lucci and sarah michelle gellar was not entirely scripted. susan saw how good sarah was, and was jealous she would get replaced so susan treated her very badly. thats why sarah left the show. to this day sarah and susan are not friends. thats why sarah wasnt in any scenes with susan in 2011.
SmG was the problem from people on theset
skaterboy3718 yet Kelly Ripa and Eva LaRue remained good friends with her even to this day.
skaterboy3718 SMG was a child! She was 16 in 1993 when she started and was 18 when she left the show! She was a child and a set full of adults couldn’t be the bigger people if that were the case? Please! I’m willing to bet Susan was threatened and made life miserable for her. That’s what many of people have said. She was jealous SMG won an Emmy her first or second try and it took Susan 19 nominations to win one Emmy.
It is apparent you are hell bent against Susan Lucci. SmG has had a trepidation fir being difficult regardless of having some friends. SmG S mother was causing the rift and leaking things to the press to promote SMG. There have been strong SMG fans who like to start trouble. There is no need. Both were great actors and both contributed to the others success. I am not going to argue with some one who calls themselves after a soap character. I can tell that you are a very passionate person and feel very strongly about this. But I only reply because I don’t think Susan or Sarah deserve blame when it was really SmG mother stirring the pot to promote SmG
skaterboy3718 then why did u say Sarah was the problem on set? You didn’t say Sarah’s mother, u said Sarah. I certainly am not going to sit back and be insulted for my screen name by someone who’s own screen name reflects that of a child!
well i was an avid watcher when sarah was on. and i saw how erica told kendall she was unable to love her because she couldnt get over how she was conceived. i dont blame anything that kendall did to erica because erica deserved it, if for not how erica always treated mona. but mona never did to erica what erica did to kendall. rape or no rape. and the way erica spoke to kendall..no one deserves to be spoken to like that.
Boy everyone had awful teeth back then
Susan didn’t