"Goodbye Forever" is an amazing song, but custom superevents forever cursed it, forcing me to imagine collapse and suffering immediatly when I hear it. Funny.
Make one with the Brazilian 1938 elections. Armando Salles for the oligarchs, José Américo de Almeida for the varguists Plinio Salgado for the integralists
Yeah the list from worst to best would probably be 1. Buzgalin 2. Gorbachev (if he isn’t coup’d) 3. Semlgin 4. Ryzhkov 5. Zyuganov 6. Patrushev 7. And of course at the end the Supreme Restoration Government which is probably the weirdest mix of ideologies possible
@@cycothereal 1. Buzgalin 2. Ryzhkov 3. Zyuganov 4. Patrushev 5. Semigin (Because he is corrupt as hell) 6. Gorbachev (because it says the collapse is getting closer and closer) 7. Military junta
Buzgalin: *Democratizes the USSR* The Government and Military: ZOMG SO WHOLESOME AND BASED!!!!!! Gorbachev: *Does the same* The Government and Military: 😡
The difference between the two is that Buzgalin focuses on political reforms only as mentioned in the event clip and he doesn't stray far from the original Soviet system (it's still a one-party state) while Gorbachev tries to tackle everything at once and bring Capitalism to the USSR (not to mention he is a former collaborator in this universe)
Does it really matter? I don’t find anyone that good or bad. Anyway, the OFN can use the collapse of the USSR as the advantage in South America, Asia, Oceania, and Africa.
Some questions: 1. Can Gorby realistically succeed (without getting coup and getting his agenda done)? 2. After the eventual Soviet Collapse post-coup will there be German invasion?
1. In my remake i want to have two different endings for Gorby, or just add another liberal reformist who is more balanced than him and can successfully turn the USSR into a liberal democracy. 2. I want to do something similar to what happened in the China video. In this case, Germany invades, Russian warlords unite, and they fight. How that would pan out is still being decided.
Ah, the famous Gorbachev blunder that all timelines have experienced. Whether it's OTL, TNOTL, or any other TL except for maybe For All Mankind, my main man Gorby's doomed to fail.
Edit: i find it kinda sad that after the Sovereign States' Union is formed, it quite literally divides itself into reactionary political camps that may or may not lead to the coup, which also leads to the question... If Gorby takes power, its always doomed to get couped by the -Four- Five? Or is it a chance if the player fucks up some point in the gameplay?
@@FinleyUwU I wonder what kinds of paths one could take as the Sovereign Union or as the Putschists, I wonder what Buzgalin's or Semigin's role would be if Gorbachev takes power?
What happen to Putin, Zhirinovsky, Navalny, Dugin and Liminov in TNO modern day timeline? Great video by the way i really love this TNO modern day concept
Like someone else said Putin is basically dead in this universe, he was never born as his mother was killed in WW2 Also Navalny, Dugin and Limonov will appear in part 2
@@sovii2852 So Putin is death because his parents died in Adolfsubrg (Saint-Petersburg) during the Russian war of the 50s? Seems plausible. But how is in charge of the NKVD? And Yazov? Buy the way you should do this with the others country (Britain, Italian Empire, Japan, China...). Great content by the way, i really like this concept, keep it up
The people who say Gorbachev is the best unifier are wrong, Aleksandr Buzgalin is the best unifier, creating a muti-party Soviet Democracy with free of speech and freedom of the press and freedom of religion, a Soviet Democratic system that’s superior to bourgeoisie democracy, THAT IS BASED AS FUCK!!!
Except that would never have lasted and the USSR would revert to its authoritarian ways. In addition democracy is not necessarily more free even if it can be a safeguard against despotism. There is nothing based in any socialist system.
As of today, 31 August, Mikhail Sergeyovich Gorbachev, the last head of state of the USSR, has passed away. My condolences to him and his family and friends.
Bukharin advocates for the capitalist private ownership of Soviet union which seeks the capital in order to industrialize the country NEP is seeking capitalism capital investment to industrialize the whole country and mechanize the world MOP so they can collective the lands of peasantry and enter low phase of communism Market Socialism is example of China and Vietnam,big corporations have authorized powers in the party and state but under the control of communist party
What do you think of doing one of those timelapses where you switch the position of countries? If you like the idea will you please do Chile with Germany and North Korea with the Soviet Union? ruclips.net/video/8R4bT09xIkQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/n3vqTPMgZmc/видео.html
They were reformed by Speer, so by 2012, they are still around. In this world they're struggling with their equivalent of the Great Recession and a power struggle is imminent. There's more information in the world_report_2012 video if you're interested
Ryzhkov too still Zyuganov too fashy Patrushev too authoritarian Buzgalin too liberal Gorbachev too idealistic Collective rule cringe and capitalist Semigin is my choice
Considering Gorby's ending mentions opening relations with the US, that might be what you are looking for Unless you mean explicitly liberal parties (well maybe not the LDPSU), then that's on part 2
It makes a bit more sense when you read up on it. From the tno wiki: "The NEP was initially successful, allowing the Soviet Union to reach pre-war levels of agricultural and industrial output. However, the NEP would prove disastrous for the Union in the long run. Without collectivisation, the small-scale peasant farms were unable to produce the grain supply required for large scale industrialisation. Kulaks, wealthy peasants, hoarded the grain until it could be sold at high prices, and thus, without the necessary food supplies to back it up, Bukharin's industrialisation efforts backfired, leading to widespread famine which lasted until 1932. The famine meant that all plans for rapid industrialisation had to be put on hold, and Bukharin was forced by his party to push through the policy of forced collectivisation, ending the NEP." Either way, a German victory scenario was almost impossible and they had to do some twists to make the USSR weak enough to lose in one year.
@@mechamedegeorge6786Unless you are a lazy shit, it means that: No collectivization -> Small farms -> Famine -> Delay of the industrialisation plans -> NEP failed and Bukharin have to stop
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Gennady "I like money but i hate the capitialists" Semigin
Based - somewhat
I am willing to compromise, w/ Technosocialists
china
Based
He’s just like me fr fr
He is a oligarch who had a high rank in the communist party of russia irl
2:25 “It doesn’t matter if a cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice”
- Deng Xiaoping
dammit its dengism
@@luodaniel8576 or Titoism, whichever was more comparatively radical in its market reforms
我超
"Goodbye Forever" is an amazing song, but custom superevents forever cursed it, forcing me to imagine collapse and suffering immediatly when I hear it. Funny.
A man is mourning the loss of his partner and the end of summer
4:03 "Dammit, maybe I should've dismantled the cops and internal security first. Ah what the hell, what's the worst that could happen?"
4:29
3:21 I liked that version of the Soviet flag
This NEPmani faction has fancy music. Comrade Semigin seems to be a true partymaker.
"He (Gorbachev) can't possibly make things worse."
Oh, but he can, and he will
How?
@@kenchannel7296 4:27
Rest In Peace like half of the people in this video
And so with it's final breath the nail on the coffin of the Soviet Union as being smacked upon and now the state is crumbling down to it's core...
Make one with the Brazilian 1938 elections.
Armando Salles for the oligarchs,
José Américo de Almeida for the varguists
Plinio Salgado for the integralists
Buzgalin is one of the best ngl
He IS the best ngl.
damn right
Yeah the list from worst to best would probably be
1. Buzgalin
2. Gorbachev (if he isn’t coup’d)
3. Semlgin
4. Ryzhkov
5. Zyuganov
6. Patrushev
7. And of course at the end the Supreme Restoration Government which is probably the weirdest mix of ideologies possible
@@cycothereal 1. Buzgalin
2. Ryzhkov
3. Zyuganov
4. Patrushev
5. Semigin (Because he is corrupt as hell)
6. Gorbachev (because it says the collapse is getting closer and closer)
7. Military junta
@@idiocrat3744 oh ig I read the text below Gorbachev’s face wrong
Buzgalin: *Democratizes the USSR*
The Government and Military: ZOMG SO WHOLESOME AND BASED!!!!!!
Gorbachev: *Does the same*
The Government and Military: 😡
The difference between the two is that Buzgalin focuses on political reforms only as mentioned in the event clip and he doesn't stray far from the original Soviet system (it's still a one-party state) while Gorbachev tries to tackle everything at once and bring Capitalism to the USSR (not to mention he is a former collaborator in this universe)
@@sovii2852 gorbachev based buzgalin cringe
@@ythunderboy8694 both based
Does it really matter?
I don’t find anyone that good or bad. Anyway, the OFN can use the collapse of the USSR as the advantage in South America, Asia, Oceania, and Africa.
Reformism is cringe but Gorbachev is like Judas Iscariot
another great video, as always!
Good, very good!
From Russia with love❤️
0:20 Sleep, Comrade Ryzhkov...
2:24 Time to bring back Coca-Cola!
The official drink of the Georgy Zhukov Estate
Blessed Immortal Gorby
Some questions:
1. Can Gorby realistically succeed (without getting coup and getting his agenda done)?
2. After the eventual Soviet Collapse post-coup will there be German invasion?
1. In my remake i want to have two different endings for Gorby, or just add another liberal reformist who is more balanced than him and can successfully turn the USSR into a liberal democracy.
2. I want to do something similar to what happened in the China video. In this case, Germany invades, Russian warlords unite, and they fight. How that would pan out is still being decided.
@@sovii2852 I've got a question as well.
Could USSR by any chance liberate SSRs that are under german occupation (or at least take Caucasus)?
Ah, the famous Gorbachev blunder that all timelines have experienced. Whether it's OTL, TNOTL, or any other TL except for maybe For All Mankind, my main man Gorby's doomed to fail.
Because his policies are absolute stinking hot garbage
Buzgalin based Lets make Soviets Great Again under the International banner
Edit: i find it kinda sad that after the Sovereign States' Union is formed, it quite literally divides itself into reactionary political camps that may or may not lead to the coup, which also leads to the question...
If Gorby takes power, its always doomed to get couped by the -Four- Five? Or is it a chance if the player fucks up some point in the gameplay?
PS: Yes i know this isn't playable, I'm talking hypothetically
Imo it should be like speer and able to go to a different paths
@@FinleyUwU I wonder what kinds of paths one could take as the Sovereign Union or as the Putschists, I wonder what Buzgalin's or Semigin's role would be if Gorbachev takes power?
Why did you changed four to five?
@@МикаельМнацаканян At one point I thought there was a 5th coup leader, but after rereading the fluff, I guess not
What happen to Putin, Zhirinovsky, Navalny, Dugin and Liminov in TNO modern day timeline? Great video by the way i really love this TNO modern day concept
putin is dead, navalny was born in 1976
Zhirinovsky is right there, it seems, as part of the interim government
Like someone else said Putin is basically dead in this universe, he was never born as his mother was killed in WW2
Also Navalny, Dugin and Limonov will appear in part 2
@@sovii2852 So Putin is death because his parents died in Adolfsubrg (Saint-Petersburg) during the Russian war of the 50s? Seems plausible. But how is in charge of the NKVD? And Yazov? Buy the way you should do this with the others country (Britain, Italian Empire, Japan, China...). Great content by the way, i really like this concept, keep it up
@@felicianobaldi2174 A previous video said the Black League was defeated, meaning Yazov was likely executed.
My only complaint is the leader desc text is too small otherwise fantastic work as usual
Part five shows what communism truly should be!
Agree!
Part 3
And number 4 is what all dentist in this world up to
part 2
4:28 концентрация базы зашкаливает
кринжа.
Reminds me of the Red World mod
4:28 2wrw Moment (The mod’s discord has been couped by rouge devs).
What happened? It just died suddenly after some dude left
@@damnationdan5253 Some devs promoted their own mod, posted russian propaganda, then deleted the server.
Also that guy that left was the server owner. He handed it over to said rogue devs, not knowing the events about to ensue
@@southsudan9021 Ofc the Fire Rises' lead mod is a Runash, go freaking figure
very cool
The people who say Gorbachev is the best unifier are wrong, Aleksandr Buzgalin is the best unifier, creating a muti-party Soviet Democracy with free of speech and freedom of the press and freedom of religion, a Soviet Democratic system that’s superior to bourgeoisie democracy, THAT IS BASED AS FUCK!!!
True!
Except that would never have lasted and the USSR would revert to its authoritarian ways. In addition democracy is not necessarily more free even if it can be a safeguard against despotism. There is nothing based in any socialist system.
Rest In Peace, Gorbachev. You will be missed.
It's so sad that people like him are leaving us...
They leave without waiting for a fair tribunal.
Rest in piss
For the eventual rework, will we see some Republics break away from the Union?
Yes, but only those located in Russia proper. Central Asian countries will be featured in Fate of the Colonies II.
someone needs to make a mod for this
You should checkout/apply to dev for TNO:ANM, a modern day TNO spin off in the works
I dev for them and we saw your work and think it’s good stuff!
@@dhruv7908 Thanks, but i kinda had to leave another project just so i could work on these videos, i appreciate the offer though
As of today, 31 August, Mikhail Sergeyovich Gorbachev, the last head of state of the USSR, has passed away.
My condolences to him and his family and friends.
Unfortunately he couldn't live long enough to face justice.
Zyuganov best
New video guys, NEW VIDEO
Nikolai Ryzkhov died yesterday, February 28th 2024. Him, Zhirinovsky and Gorbachev are gone, who from this vid will be next?
Buzgalin died long ago.
Ah nice comrade your was teach me what is political 👏👏
Nice
4:29
Aww. Guess Gorbachev was too based for Russia. Maybe after this event, partisans break out Gorbachev from prison and start a Soviet Civil War
Can you do with OTL modern Iran?
Fantastic work!
The only complaint I have though is that with the rework on the left ideologies, shouldn't the left reformists be communist?
They are, Soviet Democracy is a communist subideology
@@sovii2852 oh sorry I didn't see the pie chart well
semigin is unironically based
Yes
RIP Gorbachev.
Rest In Piss
It should be Pragmatiki, Pragmatisty or Pragmatichnye, not Pragmatichnyy.
Thanks for the correction and my bad, google translator is an ass
3:45 Rest in Peace Mikhail
RIP legend
Rest in piss
Do you still have Buzgalin's USSR flag by any chance?
imgur.com/a/LO8WGQ0 Here ya go
@@sovii2852 Thanks
epic
Part 2 is second reunification and Russia possibly transforming into something else, right?
Yep
I thought so.
Holy shit i love this video
Based
Mr gorbachev your back!
What about his back
Pog
This is an old vid but could I get a download for the Union of Soveriegn states flag?
do you have link to that version of wide is my mother land
ruclips.net/video/TnB6jjVatsc/видео.html right here
What's the difference between the Pragmatists and the NEPmen? Both Bukharinism and Market Socialism are similar, which is why I ask
Bukharin advocates for the capitalist private ownership of Soviet union which seeks the capital in order to industrialize the country
NEP is seeking capitalism capital investment to industrialize the whole country and mechanize the world MOP so they can collective the lands of peasantry and enter low phase of communism
Market Socialism is example of China and Vietnam,big corporations have authorized powers in the party and state but under the control of communist party
The most canon endings are likely Patrushev's Russia and Soviet Collapse.
What about the post-Collapse Russia unification/power struggle?
Will you make any non-communist ways in USSR/Russia/Post-Soviet and Post-Russian (maybe) states?🤔 From Russia with love! 👍
It’s implied he would.
I will, there will be a part 2
@@sovii2852 Thanks a lot!
Нашли же музыку под горбатого...
дай ссылку
Инструкция по выживанию - товарищ Горбачёв
I'm assuming here Stalin goes on to form the Tyumen/West Siberian Soviet Republic instead of getting purged like in the old lore?
No, Russian reunification in MTNO came from Zhukov's WRRF.
Is there a pic of the flag of the union of sovereign states?
Yup! imgur.com/a/tyIFTOw
What do you think of doing one of those timelapses where you switch the position of countries? If you like the idea will you please do Chile with Germany and North Korea with the Soviet Union?
ruclips.net/video/8R4bT09xIkQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/n3vqTPMgZmc/видео.html
Idea: Russian or Chinese civil war and their outcones
I will do those
Make pls reunification of Russia(election 1972),when Saharov will end his term. Can I make a candidats?
0:20 link to this version of the song?
ruclips.net/video/M1AO4lbk_1s/видео.html
Zyuganov gang.
Buzgalin gang.
what is Bolshevism
Bukharin version of communism i think
since its connected to tno what happended to germany
They were reformed by Speer, so by 2012, they are still around. In this world they're struggling with their equivalent of the Great Recession and a power struggle is imminent. There's more information in the world_report_2012 video if you're interested
Не хватает Вестника дури.
Кто такой Сергей Соколов в этом лоре?
Please make this a mod.
rip bozo
What about Barkashov's far-right The Pamyat Society insurgency as side in USSR's collapse?
Sov has said a Part 2 to this is probable, maybe he'll include this as neo-Passionarists
Give me a communist voice
Zyuganov is the best. A true Russian patriot!
Ryzhkov too still
Zyuganov too fashy
Patrushev too authoritarian
Buzgalin too liberal
Gorbachev too idealistic
Collective rule cringe and capitalist
Semigin is my choice
Isn't Gorbachev the lib one and Buzgalin the idealist?
Semigin kind of based ngl
Mikhail Gorbachev is the best one
Minus the whole dividing the political sphere too much that may lead to the coup by the VPV
Buzgalin*
Objectively wrong
*Collapses into 700 different states *
If pro- American parties win?
Considering Gorby's ending mentions opening relations with the US, that might be what you are looking for
Unless you mean explicitly liberal parties (well maybe not the LDPSU), then that's on part 2
"Kulaks and NEPmen delayed soviet industrialization". God, I hate TNO devs.
It makes a bit more sense when you read up on it.
From the tno wiki:
"The NEP was initially successful, allowing the Soviet Union to reach pre-war levels of agricultural and industrial output.
However, the NEP would prove disastrous for the Union in the long run. Without collectivisation, the small-scale peasant farms were unable to produce the grain supply required for large scale industrialisation. Kulaks, wealthy peasants, hoarded the grain until it could be sold at high prices, and thus, without the necessary food supplies to back it up, Bukharin's industrialisation efforts backfired, leading to widespread famine which lasted until 1932. The famine meant that all plans for rapid industrialisation had to be put on hold, and Bukharin was forced by his party to push through the policy of forced collectivisation, ending the NEP."
Either way, a German victory scenario was almost impossible and they had to do some twists to make the USSR weak enough to lose in one year.
@@sovii2852 No
@@mechamedegeorge6786Unless you are a lazy shit, it means that:
No collectivization -> Small farms -> Famine -> Delay of the industrialisation plans -> NEP failed and Bukharin have to stop
Based TNO devs