Crazy world! they complained about an " innocuous" Ham antenna tower! but they probably live close to a 5G mobile phone master! without any complaints!
Imagine telling them that they’ve to take their tv aerials or satellite dish’s down, it’s the same bloody thing the only difference is the frequencies he uses require antenna of that size if you want a decent transmission/reception. People just can’t help themselves they have absolutely zero knowledge about how amateur radio works or how pivotal it’s been in creating the modern methods of communication we have today. I even wonder if they know that herne bay is the home of icom uk one of the biggest amateur radio manufacturers in the world.
They will conveniently forget about how Radio won the 2nd World war and started to change the 1st World War. Without the enigma and other decrypted messages, we may all be speaking German. "carbuncle" I actually think it's quite nice. They should let him do his thing and they theirs.
Strange isnt it that all us ham radio users haven't got cancer - nobody at our club does - mobile phones are way more dangerous. Bet they still using those tho.
If you listen carefully, he gives his call sign, that can be looked up on QRZ which gives his QTH, glad to see the location isnt Herne Bay and the antennas are there on street view. :) Long may he enjoy his hobby !!!
The was part of a Channel 5 documentary series, I believe. It was on the telly quite a few years ago now. Cancer is a disease that anyone can develop, but the older you are, the more likely you are to get it. More than likely, this was the reason that a neighbour got cancer and not due to RF emissions!
@@CharlesLoukas From a purely functional perspective, there's no age limit. In fact, an increase in general crankiness is mandatory for those over 70 years old.
I live in the Roseville, CA area and used to be an Amateur Radio operator. There was one tower in this area since the 1950s but the owner passed away. The house was sold and the tower was taken down. Now no one in Roseville has a tower.
A similar problem happened at Albion Park rail New South Wales, Australia with VK2EZD David Downey The neighbours complained about the mast Tower in his backyard so Shell Harbour council forced him to pull it down David, he's no longer with us now. He passed away
THESE INSIDIOUS NEIGHBOURS disgust me, REALLY DISGUST ME , if I was Martin I'd start with the "Indirect accusations about the really egregious suggestion that Cancer is related to RF transmissions from the antenna , there is NO connections to cancer from Any antenna , these people are crazy ,how many years have they had a TV antenna ?? I feel so sorry for you Martin , the sooner these people are out of God's waiting room the better . 73s M0DHA
From another amateur radio operator in Australia, I totally agree with your statement. Retirement villages grow alot of viscous people who don’t want to mind their own business and create a lot of problems for others in the village. 73s Bill
There’s a bunch of people that need to get a hobby. Leave the bloke alone. It’s in his backyard not theirs, if they don’t like it, don’t look at it. I’m an amateur radio operator as well, and I hope I’m sprightly, active and still in the hobby just like Martin is when I’m his age. Martin, put up a wire dipole. You don’t need a council permit for that and they’re pretty much invisible. If I was in the UK I’d help you do it! 73 Martin!
I would be devastated if my neighbor complains the worst feeling ever I do remember I have to cut my wires because I was interfering with her TV next door and she was using a amplifier through her telly Plus her TV aerial was pointing directly to my house makes it very difficult to try and eliminate the interference even though on minimum power absolutely ridiculous I also hat are willing to pay for a new aerial for her house and making sure it will not interfere but she's making it out it's my fault and it's not so she is appeared pain in the back side
This kind of people who does not understand and make accusasions make me very very angry. And what Rose said? She is a Christian? Please, with that kind of attitude, I don't believe she truely is one. Mr. Martin was just enjoying his hobby, what's wrong with that. And the most ugliest part of this is, the world now knows what kind of people there are in that community. " If you go to church and you do this to your neighbor, I have no respect for this woman ". Very well said Mr. Martin.
Would love that in my back garden :-) what bunch of Misery's..hardly upsetting anyone is it .. If I was him I would tell her I'm getting into HI-Fi now few kw of d&b she will be wishing that antenna was back. Also I would ask her to pay his house bills as she seams to have the say on what he can and can't do. BS to TV interference more like he's getting inference from there cheap switching power supplies.. blaming cancer on HF frequencys what bs. It's called carma love !
A 66 ft long piece of wire up that nearby tree would work really well on several ham radio bands and nobody would even see it. Known as an End Fed half wave antenna - you need a 49 to 1 transformer at the bungalow end ( about 4 inches by 3 inches in size) - then a piece of co-axial cable connecting to the radio. I live in a bungalow like this and nobody knows about the wire up the tree - I can contact people all over Europe on it and also in America.
Council should have recommended a 30 or 40 Meter mast. An antenna appears smaller at greater height. This is also a great argument against the cancer claims, which by the way are utter nonsense at shortwave frequencies. At the time of this recording, the legal limit was still 400 Watt. Not near enough to cause interference if you know what you're doing.
😢when you have the misfortune of having such stupid and ignorant neighbors, what amazes me is the law, tadio amateurs are protected, why did this happen? I would move house in a neighborhood neighborhood so I wouldn't want it and I would only sell to non-EU citizens! greetings from Italy 73
Many years ago, I applied to my local council to erect a mast very similar to his, I told them that it was a solid fixture but the mast could be lowered down and folded just like his and would be only two metres high when down. I was first told that I could only have the mast up for no more the three consecutive days in a month, I went back saying that I would appretiate if I could use the mast for no more than 48 days a year, agreeing not to have the mast up for more than three working days per month (did you see that I used the term "working days", they got back to me saying that they would need to see the mast and where it was to be sited (health and safety reasons) and I asked if granted the 48 day per year permit, could that be recorded in hours of the mast in the air, they agreed. Now some of you will have worked out the hours in 48 days (1150 hours) I was never going to use my station that many hours per year...I would raise the mast every day at the start of my shack time, log the time going up and log the time it was lowered. So, even if I were to spend 3 hours a day in my shack for 365 day, that would only be 1095 hours, and as I have a life outside of ham radio, it was not in use everyday. There were loads of complaints as the busy bodies said I had the mast up all the time. They were all told that I had permission and were told the conditions that I had agrred to. I used the council rules to my benefit... and I smiled knowing that the "Karens" could not do a thing about it.
This is corporate law they have used against this man he needs to get in touch with the Sovereign project and get their help this has got nothing to do with corporations
Discussing behavior on a man practicing a great hobby. Maybe the fish and chips were the health issue. Gets a HF antenna down by calling the council with a 5G to her head.
This man is doing nothing wrong he's just enjoying his life he's licenced by the government the RSGB is radio equipment has been checked DTI if they would have found anything wrong with this equipment the people are surrounded man need to leave him alone that has something to complain about their dinghy divers living next door to
He tried to game the system and lost (rightly so). His excuse for not initially applying for planning permission at the new location does not hold water - the rules are very clear. Before people start yes I am a Ham and would never dream of such a tower without specific permission. I also notice that he had both coax and ladder line feeds. The latter is notoriously difficult to magage to avoid leakage of RF signals and so close to others houses in variable weather could be a hazard. No mention of the power he was using - possibly up to 400 watts ? - which would be multiplied several times by the type of beam antenna he was using. Does not get my sympathies.
I use 1kw and a 3el triband yagi and don’t cause interference or problems! Ofcom visited the chap and found no problems with his station but of course you must know better 😂
@@howardmay1951 Then you would be looking in the wrong place. Take a look around 14-15MHz for the heating effect from the near field radiation. See the research papers from the ICNRP. Even so, the regulations propose safety limits about 10x what they need to be.
@@stevewithnell911You're partially correct. Shortwave diathermy was found at 13.9-14.1 and 27.12 MHz, plus/minus a percentage. You can still find the devices online. Like a microwave oven, they work by using RF energy to generate deep heating in joints. But they don't have an antenna; they use a cuff or pads to apply the RF energy. High RF energy exposure cancer doesn't happen overnight like these people claim. Martin would have to be broadcasting 24/7/365 with extremely high power for any health effects to manifest themselves.
She wants to blame an antenna for her getting older. I once was on a jury, where an older lady was rear-ended by a small milk truck. She (and her lawyer) claimed that every possible age-related problem she had was due to the minor accident. We voted in favor of the milk truck owner.
So his neighbours are going on about all the things they love to do but then start moaning about Martin having a decent hobby.Leave the guy alone for God sake.
Poor man with uncompromising busy body neighbours. Hobby of a lifetime destroyed 😞
leave the bloke alone doing no harm to anyone
Crazy world! they complained about an " innocuous" Ham antenna tower! but they probably live close to a 5G mobile phone master! without any complaints!
A common theme these days: Too many people with nothing to do but wait around for something to be offended by.
Imagine telling them that they’ve to take their tv aerials or satellite dish’s down, it’s the same bloody thing the only difference is the frequencies he uses require antenna of that size if you want a decent transmission/reception. People just can’t help themselves they have absolutely zero knowledge about how amateur radio works or how pivotal it’s been in creating the modern methods of communication we have today.
I even wonder if they know that herne bay is the home of icom uk one of the biggest amateur radio manufacturers in the world.
They will conveniently forget about how Radio won the 2nd World war and started to change the 1st World War. Without the enigma and other decrypted messages, we may all be speaking German. "carbuncle" I actually think it's quite nice. They should let him do his thing and they theirs.
Just leave him alone would be my opinion... what harm is he doing...nothing... sounds and looks like 2 uneducated people making trouble.. Yoki..
Disgusting nosy Neighbours All the guy wanted was his hobby i am a ham operator and that really really hurts
It is very sad to live in a community nowadays
Strange isnt it that all us ham radio users haven't got cancer - nobody at our club does - mobile phones are way more dangerous. Bet they still using those tho.
If you listen carefully, he gives his call sign, that can be looked up on QRZ which gives his QTH, glad to see the location isnt Herne Bay and the antennas are there on street view. :) Long may he enjoy his hobby !!!
ok what year are the photos from? you know that google auto or satellite images often go years before updating them
The was part of a Channel 5 documentary series, I believe. It was on the telly quite a few years ago now.
Cancer is a disease that anyone can develop, but the older you are, the more likely you are to get it. More than likely, this was the reason that a neighbour got cancer and not due to RF emissions!
Nothing but a bunch of cranky old people. I hope I never get that old.
Karens tend to be younger
@@CharlesLoukas From a purely functional perspective, there's no age limit. In fact, an increase in general crankiness is mandatory for those over 70 years old.
so an 85 year olds health is deteriorating as she gets older , who would have guessed !!
I live in the Roseville, CA area and used to be an Amateur Radio operator. There was one tower in this area since the 1950s but the owner passed away. The house was sold and the tower was taken down. Now no one in Roseville has a tower.
A similar problem happened at Albion Park rail New South Wales, Australia with VK2EZD David Downey The neighbours complained about the mast Tower in his backyard so Shell Harbour council forced him to pull it down David, he's no longer with us now. He passed away
THESE INSIDIOUS NEIGHBOURS disgust me, REALLY DISGUST ME , if I was Martin I'd start with the "Indirect accusations about the really egregious suggestion that Cancer is related to RF transmissions from the antenna , there is NO connections to cancer from Any antenna , these people are crazy ,how many years have they had a TV antenna ?? I feel so sorry for you Martin , the sooner these people are out of God's waiting room the better . 73s M0DHA
From another amateur radio operator in Australia, I totally agree with your statement. Retirement villages grow alot of viscous people who don’t want to mind their own business and create a lot of problems for others in the village.
73s
Bill
There’s a bunch of people that need to get a hobby. Leave the bloke alone. It’s in his backyard not theirs, if they don’t like it, don’t look at it. I’m an amateur radio operator as well, and I hope I’m sprightly, active and still in the hobby just like Martin is when I’m his age. Martin, put up a wire dipole. You don’t need a council permit for that and they’re pretty much invisible. If I was in the UK I’d help you do it! 73 Martin!
He could have put up a "stealth" antenna which no-one could see and carry on with radio.
..In the roof !
I used to have big array on my roof on a rotator. No-one complained, it was in no-ones way.
I would be devastated if my neighbor complains the worst feeling ever I do remember I have to cut my wires because I was interfering with her TV next door and she was using a amplifier through her telly Plus her TV aerial was pointing directly to my house makes it very difficult to try and eliminate the interference even though on minimum power absolutely ridiculous I also hat are willing to pay for a new aerial for her house and making sure it will not interfere but she's making it out it's my fault and it's not so she is appeared pain in the back side
This kind of people who does not understand and make accusasions make me very very angry. And what Rose said? She is a Christian? Please, with that kind of attitude, I don't believe she truely is one. Mr. Martin was just enjoying his hobby, what's wrong with that. And the most ugliest part of this is, the world now knows what kind of people there are in that community. " If you go to church and you do this to your neighbor, I have no respect for this woman ". Very well said Mr. Martin.
Would love that in my back garden :-) what bunch of Misery's..hardly upsetting anyone is it .. If I was him I would tell her I'm getting into HI-Fi now few kw of d&b she will be wishing that antenna was back. Also I would ask her to pay his house bills as she seams to have the say on what he can and can't do.
BS to TV interference more like he's getting inference from there cheap switching power supplies.. blaming cancer on HF frequencys what bs. It's called carma love !
A 66 ft long piece of wire up that nearby tree would work really well on several ham radio bands and nobody would even see it. Known as an End Fed half wave antenna - you need a 49 to 1 transformer at the bungalow end ( about 4 inches by 3 inches in size) - then a piece of co-axial cable connecting to the radio. I live in a bungalow like this and nobody knows about the wire up the tree - I can contact people all over Europe on it and also in America.
Council should have recommended a 30 or 40 Meter mast. An antenna appears smaller at greater height. This is also a great argument against the cancer claims, which by the way are utter nonsense at shortwave frequencies. At the time of this recording, the legal limit was still 400 Watt. Not near enough to cause interference if you know what you're doing.
😢when you have the misfortune of having such stupid and ignorant neighbors, what amazes me is the law, tadio amateurs are protected, why did this happen? I would move house in a neighborhood neighborhood so I wouldn't want it and I would only sell to non-EU citizens! greetings from Italy 73
Many years ago, I applied to my local council to erect a mast very similar to his, I told them that it was a solid fixture but the mast could be lowered down and folded just like his and would be only two metres high when down. I was first told that I could only have the mast up for no more the three consecutive days in a month, I went back saying that I would appretiate if I could use the mast for no more than 48 days a year, agreeing not to have the mast up for more than three working days per month (did you see that I used the term "working days", they got back to me saying that they would need to see the mast and where it was to be sited (health and safety reasons) and I asked if granted the 48 day per year permit, could that be recorded in hours of the mast in the air, they agreed. Now some of you will have worked out the hours in 48 days (1150 hours) I was never going to use my station that many hours per year...I would raise the mast every day at the start of my shack time, log the time going up and log the time it was lowered. So, even if I were to spend 3 hours a day in my shack for 365 day, that would only be 1095 hours, and as I have a life outside of ham radio, it was not in use everyday. There were loads of complaints as the busy bodies said I had the mast up all the time. They were all told that I had permission and were told the conditions that I had agrred to. I used the council rules to my benefit... and I smiled knowing that the "Karens" could not do a thing about it.
What if your daughter were named Karen?
This is corporate law they have used against this man he needs to get in touch with the Sovereign project and get their help this has got nothing to do with corporations
They are all bullies making up lies.
Why all the camera shots of the dog being stroked?? Totally irrelevant. Some sort of sympathy vote?
Ancient history, must be at least 10 years old.8
Cancer? From HF radio? Amazing levels of ignorance. I blame the National Curriculum.
What a great quote - I'm a christian BUT!
At first, I wanted to say... hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa......aaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaa..........!!!!!
Just run a long wire buddy and call it a day, 73
Discussing behavior on a man practicing a great hobby. Maybe the fish and chips were the health issue. Gets a HF antenna down by calling the council with a 5G to her head.
This man is doing nothing wrong he's just enjoying his life he's licenced by the government the RSGB is radio equipment has been checked DTI if they would have found anything wrong with this equipment the people are surrounded man need to leave him alone that has something to complain about their dinghy divers living next door to
Martin Strong Men 73
Martin should have asked before he oved in there.
I know his mast isn't harmful, but he's old enough to have developed some common sense...
He tried to game the system and lost (rightly so). His excuse for not initially applying for planning permission at the new location does not hold water - the rules are very clear. Before people start yes I am a Ham and would never dream of such a tower without specific permission. I also notice that he had both coax and ladder line feeds. The latter is notoriously difficult to magage to avoid leakage of RF signals and so close to others houses in variable weather could be a hazard. No mention of the power he was using - possibly up to 400 watts ? - which would be multiplied several times by the type of beam antenna he was using. Does not get my sympathies.
I use 1kw and a 3el triband yagi and don’t cause interference or problems! Ofcom visited the chap and found no problems with his station but of course you must know better 😂
Wicked man
I would be looking at mobile phone frequencies causing the cancers. Not HF radio frequencies.
That’s old women interfering in a blokes hobby
Needs neighbours like mine you don’t mind what i put up in the sky
@@howardmay1951 Then you would be looking in the wrong place. Take a look around 14-15MHz for the heating effect from the near field radiation. See the research papers from the ICNRP. Even so, the regulations propose safety limits about 10x what they need to be.
@@stevewithnell911You're partially correct. Shortwave diathermy was found at 13.9-14.1 and 27.12 MHz, plus/minus a percentage. You can still find the devices online.
Like a microwave oven, they work by using RF energy to generate deep heating in joints. But they don't have an antenna; they use a cuff or pads to apply the RF energy.
High RF energy exposure cancer doesn't happen overnight like these people claim. Martin would have to be broadcasting 24/7/365 with extremely high power for any health effects to manifest themselves.
She wants to blame an antenna for her getting older.
I once was on a jury, where an older lady was rear-ended by a small milk truck. She (and her lawyer) claimed that every possible age-related problem she had was due to the minor accident. We voted in favor of the milk truck owner.
So his neighbours are going on about all the things they love to do but then start moaning about Martin having a decent hobby.Leave the guy alone for God sake.
This is old news