VW 1600 DP to 2110 cc Conversion
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- VW 1600 DP to 2110 conversion. Lets look at some internal engine parts required to make a 82mm stroke with 90.5mm bore fit inside a New AS41 engine case. This is just an informal discussion out in the garage looking at parts and answering questions. Not intended to be a step by step assemble and run vid. Also a chance to meet my new shop Dog and see some record breaking snow.
I like to share information about how I do things and constantly experiment with my own idea's. My objective is to build more practical horsepower at lower RPM where I spend most of my time driving and have it live as long as a stock factory build in a 4 season car. I'm not after Peak Horsepower and racing. Those engines can be fun but usually don't last very long IMHO.
Woo hoo! You just made my day. It’s nice to see you again.
Good to see you in the garage today, I’ve missed your rambles! There’s so much info that you spill out, so much to learn and refresh on.
The snow looks beautiful!
Thanks. I like a good snow now and then. We need moisture anyway we can get it
Good to hear and see you again, hope you did and do well
Thanks GZ, some really valuable information. I see the snow is still there and doesn't look it's leaving anytime soon. Have a great weekend
Thanks, you too!
I still enjoy watching your older videos.
Great to see you in the shop, and laughing again. Keep up the good work. I appreciate what you do.
Thanks 👍
Wizard for wizards.your awesome,thanks!
Welcome back ! Thanks for a great video
Good stuff Greg, I can watch RUclips in my garage now. So it's like you're hanging with me out there. 😁
Your always multi tasking. LOL
Hummm, the dimple on the oil pump gears may have been solved by the one and only EZGZ! Good to see you Greg.
your back thank you for the video glad to see your doing alright with covid and all
All good
Greg, you sound like your good old self again👍👍 PTL your back 👍👍 glad to see you have a four legged friend 🦮
Thanks 👍
Great Vid, check those repro cam plugs, I've had a few lately that I've not been happy with, they have a thinner raised lip, the profile is all wrong for the groove cut in the case.
Test fit first....good to see you back!
Thanks for the tip!
Another great video with tips and experience for us all, getting out in the garage and hanging out with the dog is the best thing to lift the spirits 👍👍
So true!
EZGZ coming back with a vengeance
Nothing in moderation. hehehe
Thanks you from France Ezgz.
I've just started my 1915cc engine that I have assembled.
Your videos help me a lot.
Take care. Thanks you for all your knowlegde that you share with us.
Love the story on the dog.
The Dog told me to tell you Thanks Bow WoW
EZ, once again great stuff. Gotta get started on my 1776 build. Keep the videos coming.
1776 with stock cam and dual carbs will make good power and run for long time
Thanks for the great information as always.👍😁 The oil pump modification to get more oil in the engine, is something everyone should do even on a stock engine.
So true!
Great to see you back again behind the camera .... People will learn from this .. keep fighting the good fight
I appreciate the love and support my friend. :-)
Great motivation for me to start my 2276 build when I get home. Working till the 1st of April then home for a couple months. Can't wait! Take care and thanks!
Sounds great! May you get many smiles to the miles with your big block Monster. My 2276 really works out well in my sandcar.
All those small parts add up after a while! Thanks for doing another video played ya on the big screen. Good tip on the oil pump it's all about the FLOW! I hope you take some time for a burrito but for now here's a virtual one 😆 🌯
Thanks for watching! Pass me the Hot Sauce.... hehehe you put a big smile on my face :-)
So glad to see you back at it. You should ditch the snow and come ride bikes in Kansas
I love me some engine building videos !! Lots of great wisdom and information for when I build one !! Keep up the good work !!
Awesome, thank you!
Good too see your videos again. I enjoy it alot.
Glad to hear it! :-)
Good to see you again!!
Hey, thanks!
Great video EZGZ! I love VWs and I wish I was your neighbor. You seem like a great guy.
You say that now but wait until my dog sneaks off and poops in your yard. hehehehe
Great information!! Thanks for all the tips and tricks! Love it 👍🇧🇪
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always do plugs out cranking on engines that have not started in a long time. Worth it. 100%
Very greatful for your vidio, man I wish I had your knowledge.
Wish we had some of your snow as well.
I learn new stuff on every build. hehehe
Dimples on the oil pump gears are there to lubricate between the gear and the case. You can add more more additional lubrication if the supplier cannot get them for your vehicle.
Correctomundo
Cool videos. I enjoy watching. Hope all is well EZGZ.
Thanks 👍
Thx AGAIN EZ.... seeing your video, (guidance), kinda making me second guess some of my setup to where I can MORE fine tune something's for more longevity and maybe squeeze Alil more power out of my 1929 stroker. Appreciate ya buddy 👍🏻✌🏻🇺🇸💪🏻
Great to hear! Amazing what power a little bit of stroke adds. I hope you get lots of smiles to the miles.
EZ. I would turn the large case nuts around. You don't want to look at the seal. You want it to work. I used to build motors in the 80s. Learned from a great German teacher. Anything that touched the case. Including base of cylinders. Aviation permatex. No paper. is saturates & squeezes out. Then cylinders pop. As far as thermostat flaps & linkage. In Florida. We put them in the trash can. Colorado weather is a little bit different though. So you may want to keep them. Great videos! p.s. Sealer under all washers. Nothing above. Except 6 case half nuts have built in seals OH and oil pump nuts, Do too.
I prefer the Gene Berg method Sir.
Hi Ezgz, we've install a lot of centre mount on 1680 & 1776 engines. We found our 1776cc builds ran best with a 44IDF centre mount with 145 mains, 55idles, 160 air correction jets. We still haven't bothered with the preheat tubes yet. But we did find that deck lid stand-offs made it run rough when cold so we removed them and kept the engine closed up. With your open engine compartments I suspect your going to need the preheat tubes connected.
Great info! Thanks for the help! Are you using F11 emulsion tubes with that set up?
@@TheEZGZ also don't go too small with your venturies. With a, single center mount having a, lot of fast velocity over the venturies makes the carby chill even more. I'd start with 2110cc I'd consider 30 or 32mm venturies. We had a 1776 with centre 44IDF got it running very well with 28mm venturies and no heater tubes connected. But it still had a little issue in cold weather. We changed out the venturies to 29mm and it was perfect!
Thank you for the build knowledge.😊
Nice... and I though I was busy for installing vintage search light on my '66. What do you think about mounting type 3 tins under cilinders instead of small ones?
works great on off road engines where you don't use all the rest of the lower stuff. I did that for years. Add a wire across the top to keep them from rubbing on the pushrod tubes
@@TheEZGZ thank you Sir.
Love ezgz
my old man loved the 1700cc, 85.5 stock pistons and 74mm crank. he drove a Ghia 70 miles round trip to work and back for over 20 years with the same 1700cc engine. all highway miles. and people say old VW Bugs breakdown too much, i disagree.
A 1hr EZGZ video?!?! Heck yeah!!!
Thanks for the comment and support
Gday Mr EZGZ,
Kevin here from Australia.
Well it's Sunday afternoon here and what better way to spend it with you in your garage.
Stay safe and healthy .
✌ Peace man.
You as well, good friend! CHEER'S!
@@TheEZGZ ✌
EZGZ IS IN THE HOUSE! 🏠🐞
I always figured when you put together stroker motor one thing is rodj hitting the camshaft and the bottom of the cylinders themselves
That's why the cut and trim a lot of metal away in those area's. I always felt like it weekend the case. On the 82 and larger stroker motors the crankshaft counterweight can hit the camshaft so you have to remove material
Hi EZ!
Have you ever tried those beehive valve springs? Kind of expensive.
Not yet! I saw them at air cooled.net and was curious about that myself.
Interesting theory on those oil pump gear dimples! How the heck have we made it this far without any body definitively knowing what those are for or how they should be oriented? ...Especially since every manufacturer puts them there. I like your analysis.
It's just my theoretical observation. I'm sure if it made a differeence they would include instructions with the pump. Then again, it's made for a stock 1600 engine. I'm always looking for longer life and more power.
Hope your doggy is still going strong lot of good info Here Ezy sir
Yes, thanks
I had a bunch of valve shims w some parts. I didn't know what they were. lol
Yamabond 1104 is the best I've ever used
Great video EZ. Is the 2110 going in the buggy?? It should do well on your hillclimb. :-)
We shall see
engine not shuffle pinned ? i used a 82mm 4340 moly crankshaft for $ 260.00 , scat was too much around up to $800.00 left mine alone at that specs of 2276 cc with total seal piston rings and chrome top ring combo been running since 1984 had 256k miles and refresh in 2004 but ran to alum block pop top about $ $ 600.00 no more welded rimco style engine . but is shuffled pin though , but this time dropped the comp ratio to 7.0:1 to at least run poo poo gas @ 87 octane and not a slave to high octane later turbo charge in the future.but i get 36 mpg on the highway ,happy trails meep meep
Your living in the past and nobody ever made a chrome top ring. It was always for second ring to last in dirty conditions. Your 256K miles is total BS my friend. Live your dream. Hope you get smiles to the miles.
@@TheEZGZ vw engines have been known to get at least 500k miles not a hot rod high compression engines .we have built 2276 cc in the 80s still running today with turbo of low compression as long as you keep cool running we are in the hot desert . and use some of the vw rails patrolling the southern border . for over 20 years no hang ups and for the most all run on total seal piston rings because standard rings leak down up to 35 % cause of crank case blow by total seals rings leak no more than 12% and and 2nd piston land is a double ring chrome top three piece oil scraper from phoenix az ware house .we have a 1850cc engine for over 25 years slip in no machine high rev great combo kit ,look into it .happy trails
Boa noite Amigo tudo bem .Quantos Quilos você deixou o volante do motor
Quanto mais leve mais aliviado anda mais
Use a little bit of oil on your valve stem it will stay on there better, --A quick Question where do you get one of those headspring tools at
There all over. carcraftstore.com/benchmountheadassemblytool.aspx
Autolinea means auto line in Portugese
Interesting! Thanks
How to remove a oil pump that has the plug for full flow?
Tap Tap Tap It's a real pain sometimes. Loosen the case bolt under and above it. A little tap on one side and then the other. Don't damage the engine case sealing surface. Use some wide like a putty knife ounce you get it moving. Be creative. You can do this!
Hi
I have seen this guy showing hoy to set cam timing on his engine
He was talking about an angle cam 110
Do you know about it?????
Engel 110 cam is very popular but you also need dual carbs and mechanical advance distributor to avoid a flat spot every time you start out.
@@TheEZGZ thank for the advice…..
Hi EZGZ!!! Which block is better? Aluminum or Magnesium ? What specs of engine oil are you using?
Mostly I've recycled dual relief mag blocks without issues but it's always nice to have a new case for a build. I like the aluminum case for the added strength. VW dropped the mag block when they came out with the type 4 engine so I figure it was for good reason.....
I know I have heard you mention it before but what is currently the best engine bearings for type 1 engines? Or more to the point what have you had the best luck with?
Silverline metal backed for the mains.
Clevite for the rods
@@TheEZGZ Does Silverline make any mains other than steel backed? Also what Cam bearing do you use and do you recomend double or single thrust? To me double just makes more sense considering that the crank uses a double
Iam at a cross roads on my first VW build for my buggy,have the case half's milled to 90.5 with Engle 100 cam big valve heads only because machinist says my single port are junk. Which carbs would you use thanks sir
A 1776 runs awesome with any dual carb set up even with a stock cam
Where did the case come from
Brazil, everybody sells them. The call them super cases or stroker case's it made from AS41 and not what I wanted. I bought a Autolinea aluminum bubble top case but sent it back because of defects. Good Luck
I'm running an 1835 in my street bug but I'm thinking about building something with a little more butt thanks for the information on your vidios
Doug
Hay ez I’m wanting to use the c45 scat cam in the bug what’s your thoughts thanks
follow the cam manufactures advice. That is not a good daily driver street cam IMHO
Used C45 camshafts many times in 1915 engines. They make about 135hp with a pair of 40 Dellortos and make for a nice combo in a Bug with a pair of nice heads, something like 40*35 with some porting
@@chrisburns4297 ok cool thanks is the c45 like the scatt 110 thanks
@@harryloibl5183 The Scat C45 is similar to an Engle 120.
@@chrisburns4297 also chris can one use the old case ? For the larger displacement engine😊😊
Hola buenas tardes excelente amigo una pregunta mi vocho motor 1600cc puede cambia motor 2110cc pero mismo motor porfavor
Hey buddy! Yes, the engine in this video was originally a 1600cc and now he’s building it to be a 2110cc. 🙏✌️
Hey there EZ, why do you keep saying screen only during break in? All modern engines that are factory full flow still have a screen, FYI.
modern engines have a lot bigger screen and although the stock screen works well enough if you increase the max RPM or run a higher volume pump it can become a restriction.
I disagree, smaller and finer and higher flow pumps and more oil demand, etc. I feel like you may be wrong on this one. But maybe the screen you're talking about is smaller than I imagine.
Added Bearing Life » Added Bearing Life - Technical Information
Oil strainer information. An area of extreme importance. The inlet or suction side of any pump is extremely limited in what it can do as compared to the pressure side and should never be impaired in anyway, whereas the pressure side is capable of overcoming a great deal of extra resistance. For that reason, I have not used the stock oil strainer in any of my high performance street or race engines since 1966. I found that it often caused too much restriction on the suction side of the oil pump with a little higher performance and high RPM engines. This problem was traced to oil starvation and all out bearing and/or crankshaft failures from the oil not being able to pass through the stock restrictive oil strainer screen fast enough to provide adequate flow to the pump.
Contamination was a concern, however, all of my engines from 1961-on had full flow oil filters protecting the engine. Some concern about metal particles going into the oil pump before filtering was solved when I went to the farm supply house and bought a "cow" magnet that is about 1/2" round by 3" long. I hose clamped it on the outside of the pickup tube extension for the larger sump. I have used this configuration successfully for years over 30 years. For those that do not know, a cow magnet is what they feed the cows to pick up metal (such as broken barbed wire) from the stomach and pass it out of their system.
Another concern is the weight of the oil. Remember, the heavier the oil, the less it lubricates. We run 20 weight in our race engines and 10-30 weight in all street engines. Only if the temperature is constantly above 80-85 degrees would I consider 10-40 weight. 5-30 should be used when temperature falls to below 45 degrees. For freezing temperatures straight 10 weight would be my choice.
The point is, if bearing life is substandard or failures have occurred, these are items you should be looking at:
GB 212 Pickup tube magnet with clamp to attach to outside of deep sump pickup tube. Originated by Gene Berg in 1964.
Gene Berg must be respected, but things have changed in terms of oil tech. VW engines are different but not fundamentally different to any other. Empirical bench testing of heated oil using artificial drive of a real pump and comparable passages would settle this. He makes it sound like larger displacement impacts the oil system when clearly it does not. Racing wise, depends on drag or endurance and budget for rebuilds, but the higher hot weight the better, 60 hot weight is thinner than 10w cold weight.
Some folks just like to argue. Do your own thing fredeio54 Opinions are like asholes... everyone has one. Gene's way is working for me, so why change
How are you my brother? Where can I find the Volkswagen Beetle engine spare parts? Please send me the names of the companies that manufacture the engine parts.
Most common Volkswagen parts are affiliated with EMPI
Just google the part you want with the Letter VW or Volkswagen and you will get all sorts of suppliers.
Usually you get what you pay for. Stop bargain hunting
you need oil on valve gides //no seal //to save your valve stems and gides, need oil .
Yep!
How are you doing buddy 😊😊😊
All good thanks !
@@TheEZGZ good to hear God bless you 😊😊😊
USA a BOTTOMING TAP it has flat end
Dahhhhhh
hart worm is a killer// I give my dog pills once a month IT WORKS
True but not needed up Northern area. It's a rippoff in this climate. Do some research.
You know when you have a dog on a chain ,you don’t have a pet you have a prisoner?
I would rather have a happy prisoner than have here get hit by a car. She doesn't seem to mind and the folks who walk there dogs down the street on a leash appreciate it as well. Isn't keeping a dog in a fenced in back yard like a prison as well? Seems like most pets are prisoners doesn't it?
And spend some money on the fence ,if you have all that money for bug motors ,your philosophy doesn’t fly but nice try