If u really think about it, OG is more important to this Knicks team than Rande. What the Knicks should do is pay OG, trade Randle, and give Brunson the supernax once he reaches free agency. Paying JB and OG ain't cheap but it's def worth it 👌
@@eli.b21nah I would agree with this but watching game 1 it raw obvious they needed Randle out there. The 76ers have NO answer for Randle so they gonna double team and that gives the team open 3. Leading to more efficient offense. Also during the 20-3 stretch where they all played. Randle was playing actually bully ball. He wasn’t just shooting 10 3 every night. Og def brings more value but if we are being honest the knicks would be better of sign and trading him or just letting him walk. They def lose some big wing defense. But they could just replace him with Mikel bridges who could be a GREAT 3rd option.
@@theguywhoneedsalife3742 They fs need Randle out there so some weight can be taken off Brunsons hands on offense. I'm saying going forward tho, he doesn't quite match what the Knicks need. OG’s defense is partially why the Knicks are so good and even tho Randles a baller, he makes too many stupid mistakes AND he's a legit playoff choker 💀
Yeah idk how they made this graph but it’s not very accurate, Paul George is like half a centimeter higher than OG and nobody thinks OG is close to Paul George.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks can't even offer him 30 mil per season. The team that a player plays for can only offer said guy 140% of what the last contract was. Which is why they had trouble trading him despite so many teams wanting him Edit: so the Knicks can offer him 4 yrs/ 118mil as the max. Someone else will most likely offer him more money
Nobody clowned the Knicks tf are you talking about??? I thought it was a good signing because the franchise had been looking for a point guard to run the show for quite some time, and Brunson wanted to be a teams starting point guard. Win win. What I did not expect is for him to turn into the best point guard in the east this season. So maybe that’s what you mean by “clowned”, people who just had realistic expectations that brunson was able to blow out of the water.
The Knicks are the closest thing to a "home team" since the Nets left us. I wouldn't call it "hate", but a lotta people around here (myself included) were on the fence with the Brunson signing. Now we all see what a bargain he was.
@@MistaWordz Glad that Era is over. I knew it was a good signing with a great price, and I didn't even see him getting MVP chants. I knew he would be good but he blew us all away.
@@AndrewFenichelyeah fr and he won 4 chips already. As a warriors fan I hope we keep him, but if he gets the money he wants from somewhere else I'll be happy for him
Now that Suns are eliminated, they should trade KD to Rockets for Vanvleet, Steven Adams, and next 2 firsts. Then try to get a defensive guy like John Issac from the magic for Nurkic. “Who says no”
The problem with this list is that pricing is not taking into account rookie deal salaries… saying OG is worth 5 M is saying he’s worth a solid rookie… but on the open market, a solid rookie would be worth more than 5
Nobody ever talks about what a piss poor contract Tim Hardaway has in Dallas. Bro is making like 27M a year to be a bum. I'll be so glad when the Mavs are spending that money on someone who's actually good. There is absolutely no logical reason why the Knicks should've gave him that deal in the first place like holy fucking shit he is so ass it hurts my soul
Because he showed a lot of potential, he not on that bad of a deal never was(when actually comparing contracts). But of for some reason he was one of those guys they(fans and media) talked about his potential all the way till he was like 30😂
Thank you big facts ! Stop sleeping on lavine and the bulls let them go one more swing fully healthy p will Zach and lonzo watch they gone be back to first seed like three seasons ago
I disagree. He missed like more than half the year and they won just as many games without him than they woulda with him. This year they proved that he’s irrelevant to their success.
@@eliyarrows2456 he had been a catalyst to their success. He has been injured sure but that doesn’t take away from what he has done since he came to Chicago. The man was a major reason Chicago had the one seed a few years back going into the break he carried us for a good while
As a bulls fan, I think the bulls have played more like a team when he got hurt. Got to see guys like coby and ayo improve when given more responsibility. But lavine can be a huge asset somewhere if he accepts playing off the ball more.
If anything OG is the fork in the gears here. OG’s value hasn’t shown in the box score, but he has demonstrably had value for the Knicks at the level he’s being paid. Question is though, would that replicate on another team? Could end up being a bait for a different team to throw a bunch of money at him just to get the stats without the vibes
“Would that replicate on another team” You’re pretending like he didn’t already do this exact same stuff for another team. The Knicks didn’t find some no name guy lmao, he was labeled a top 3 perimeter defender like 2 years ago and has been a 20ppg scorer before ever being a Knick 😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
We can negotiate a little bit with OG. He is the key to our team-the final piece of the puzzle. We are 21-3 with him in the lineup. He is worth keeping.
He’s worth $30mill a year. Don’t listen to this graph, it says OG is about as good as Paul George and that Jalen Williams or Chet is as valuable as Luka. Hes a top 3 perimeter defender and has the ability to average 20ppg. You need him to beat Boston and guard Tatum.
OGs a top 3 lockdown defender and easily worth that money but this probably doesn't take defence into account because modern fans forgot what that is anymore lmao
Yeah this graph is BS. Who tf thinks Jalen Williams adds more value to the Thunder than Luka does to the mavs? In fact according to this the Thunder have 3 top 10 players lol
@@eliyarrows2456 it’s not about who adds more value to their team it’s based on their contract. For example when Westbrook was on the Lakers he was getting paid 40+ million but playing like he should only get 15-20. Chet and Jalen are getting paid basically nothing and are playing like they deserve 25 million
it’s crazy because the bulls have arguably 3 of the best contracts in ayo dosunmu coby white and alex caruso but they still manage to be the worst team of all time
Bulls have so much talent, yet they still blow. It’s unreal lmaoo. Its gotta be a coach issue cause no way does that team get smoked in the playin if they have spo as their hc
I see u cropping the “superstars” section so Shai is barely visible… just embrace being a thunder hater at this point because there’s no point in denying it
This is one of the stupidest graphs I’ve seen in a long time, if you’re judging how much a guy should make with this you’re crazy. For one, $50mill isn’t even an option for value added despite that being lower than super max yearly pay. So you can’t judge salary off this when the scale is off by $15mill lol. Secondly, it says Isaiah Hartenstien is worth more money than Jayson Tatum, and says Jalen Williams adds more value to his team than Luka 😂🤦🏻♂️ So yeah, I would sign OG for $20 mill. Because apparently OG is as good as Paul George according to this.
Zach LaVine's contract is not 251, is 215. Plus almost all games he played this season (25) he was with a foot injury. Not good put in the video things to make his scenario worst.
I was so confused why I never seen ja at the top and I saw him at the bottom and I was so confused why he was and then he explained cause it was injurys
OG has to be worth the money for the Knicks, was 20-3 with him
21-3 now if you count both playoffs and regular season
Playoffs will probably determine his money
If u really think about it, OG is more important to this Knicks team than Rande. What the Knicks should do is pay OG, trade Randle, and give Brunson the supernax once he reaches free agency. Paying JB and OG ain't cheap but it's def worth it 👌
@@eli.b21nah I would agree with this but watching game 1 it raw obvious they needed Randle out there. The 76ers have NO answer for Randle so they gonna double team and that gives the team open 3. Leading to more efficient offense. Also during the 20-3 stretch where they all played. Randle was playing actually bully ball. He wasn’t just shooting 10 3 every night. Og def brings more value but if we are being honest the knicks would be better of sign and trading him or just letting him walk. They def lose some big wing defense. But they could just replace him with Mikel bridges who could be a GREAT 3rd option.
@@theguywhoneedsalife3742 They fs need Randle out there so some weight can be taken off Brunsons hands on offense. I'm saying going forward tho, he doesn't quite match what the Knicks need. OG’s defense is partially why the Knicks are so good and even tho Randles a baller, he makes too many stupid mistakes AND he's a legit playoff choker 💀
OG is worth every penny, he adds offense and defense at a high level
Coby white
Making like 12 mil
And he is the GOAT
Absolutely i would pay anunoby. Maybe it doesn’t show up on the stat sheet but he brings a lot of value to the knicks
Yeah idk how they made this graph but it’s not very accurate, Paul George is like half a centimeter higher than OG and nobody thinks OG is close to Paul George.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks can't even offer him 30 mil per season. The team that a player plays for can only offer said guy 140% of what the last contract was. Which is why they had trouble trading him despite so many teams wanting him
Edit: so the Knicks can offer him 4 yrs/ 118mil as the max. Someone else will most likely offer him more money
The record with the Knicks having Og in the lineup is insane. Paying him definitely
@@swaymcthunder1219 thats extension money. If becomes a free agent they can sign him to 4year 150ish
@siddhantjain244 you might be right there. The shit is confusing
I love Andrew dudes a sports genius
🤝🤝
@AndrewFenichel I also am but im trying to get more from u and other content creators
@@AndrewFenichelyou are not a genius
@@geovanni2117 yes he is
@@CravenSports-dt3eo😂
Pay OG whatever he wants
crazy how when he signed that contract whole world clowned the knicks
Nobody clowned the Knicks tf are you talking about???
I thought it was a good signing because the franchise had been looking for a point guard to run the show for quite some time, and Brunson wanted to be a teams starting point guard. Win win.
What I did not expect is for him to turn into the best point guard in the east this season. So maybe that’s what you mean by “clowned”, people who just had realistic expectations that brunson was able to blow out of the water.
@@eliyarrows2456ok that was you, sadly I saw alot of hate.
The Knicks are the closest thing to a "home team" since the Nets left us. I wouldn't call it "hate", but a lotta people around here (myself included) were on the fence with the Brunson signing. Now we all see what a bargain he was.
@@MistaWordz Glad that Era is over. I knew it was a good signing with a great price, and I didn't even see him getting MVP chants. I knew he would be good but he blew us all away.
@@King_Ghost777i think people clowned them for the Noah, Randle, Fournier contracts
Cam Thomas is making 2 millions lol
kat and booker be making hella bank as well
Ur point?
@@jalynjones9136Kat isn’t worth the money booker def is thi
@@jalynjones9136he's saying that KAT is pure trash
your analogy’s are perfect
that gucci one was great
Nobu? No, boooooo
Klay gonna be screwed in the offseason 😭😭
He’s made his bag. I think he’ll be fine lol
@@AndrewFenichel yea, but he’s asking for Jrue Holiday money 💀
@@AndrewFenichelyeah fr and he won 4 chips already. As a warriors fan I hope we keep him, but if he gets the money he wants from somewhere else I'll be happy for him
@@naf1566he averaged 18ppg and shot 38% from 3, he might get a Jrue sized contract. I know the heat would sign up for that.
djj on a minimum and he’s playing all defensive-caliber defense
Now that Suns are eliminated, they should trade KD to Rockets for Vanvleet, Steven Adams, and next 2 firsts.
Then try to get a defensive guy like John Issac from the magic for Nurkic.
“Who says no”
So basically Shai’s game is worth the most in the league right?
The problem with this list is that pricing is not taking into account rookie deal salaries… saying OG is worth 5 M is saying he’s worth a solid rookie… but on the open market, a solid rookie would be worth more than 5
Og is worth everything
Nobody ever talks about what a piss poor contract Tim Hardaway has in Dallas. Bro is making like 27M a year to be a bum. I'll be so glad when the Mavs are spending that money on someone who's actually good. There is absolutely no logical reason why the Knicks should've gave him that deal in the first place like holy fucking shit he is so ass it hurts my soul
😂😂
Because he showed a lot of potential, he not on that bad of a deal never was(when actually comparing contracts). But of for some reason he was one of those guys they(fans and media) talked about his potential all the way till he was like 30😂
Shout out Phil Jackson lol
J-dub Chet and SGA all up there
Lavine in the death zone is unfair because he has been a top 5 SG the last few years and helped get the Bulls bk to a semi relevant space
Thank you big facts ! Stop sleeping on lavine and the bulls let them go one more swing fully healthy p will Zach and lonzo watch they gone be back to first seed like three seasons ago
I disagree. He missed like more than half the year and they won just as many games without him than they woulda with him. This year they proved that he’s irrelevant to their success.
@@eliyarrows2456 he had been a catalyst to their success. He has been injured sure but that doesn’t take away from what he has done since he came to Chicago. The man was a major reason Chicago had the one seed a few years back going into the break he carried us for a good while
As a bulls fan, I think the bulls have played more like a team when he got hurt. Got to see guys like coby and ayo improve when given more responsibility. But lavine can be a huge asset somewhere if he accepts playing off the ball more.
If anything OG is the fork in the gears here. OG’s value hasn’t shown in the box score, but he has demonstrably had value for the Knicks at the level he’s being paid.
Question is though, would that replicate on another team? Could end up being a bait for a different team to throw a bunch of money at him just to get the stats without the vibes
“Would that replicate on another team”
You’re pretending like he didn’t already do this exact same stuff for another team.
The Knicks didn’t find some no name guy lmao, he was labeled a top 3 perimeter defender like 2 years ago and has been a 20ppg scorer before ever being a Knick 😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I love your content Andrew been here since 5k
Appreciate that my man, really means a lot
Love it when this guy occasionally turns into jxmyhighroller
Shai hella underpaid
This Graph says that Bam Adebayo is overpayed and jokic gets less value then Alperen Sengun. This Just a graph
Love ur content Andrew great sports knowledge
We can negotiate a little bit with OG. He is the key to our team-the final piece of the puzzle. We are 21-3 with him in the lineup. He is worth keeping.
He’s worth $30mill a year. Don’t listen to this graph, it says OG is about as good as Paul George and that Jalen Williams or Chet is as valuable as Luka.
Hes a top 3 perimeter defender and has the ability to average 20ppg. You need him to beat Boston and guard Tatum.
Its unrelated but andrew why do u dislike the thunder so much?
OGs a top 3 lockdown defender and easily worth that money but this probably doesn't take defence into account because modern fans forgot what that is anymore lmao
can you rank the top 10 players drafted in the second round,
Sheesh vanvleet been hooping
Depends how deep the Knicks get in the playoffs with OG
This value added metric cant be reliable if Gobert is that low
Andrew knows ball
Og is worth 30 million when he played their defence was insane
Man that Jalen Brunson contract is such a steal
How tf is Ben Simmons still getting 30 mil? I swear he's been on the the bench more than he's been on the court his entire career.
He signed the rookie max extension when he was actually decent, next year is the last year of his deal and he’ll be making $40 mill.
Zach Lavine has been injured this season. When healthy he is at least a top 5 shooting guard.
It not that impressive when the position isn’t that stack
Key word : When
Man is almost never healthy and is only really impactful in 15% of his games
Ant, Booker, Mitchell, Brown, Kyrie all better
Coby White and Jalen Brunson are the best contract in the NBA imo.
ngl Isaiah Hartenstein worth 40 million + is wild
Donavan Mitchell has to have the best contract out of anyone here for a team
Kelly Oubre is on the Vet Min and is the Sixers 3rd best player
I’m still sick we gave Toby that crazy contract and let jimmy walk
Coby and ayo????
How is the value of these players evaluated is it a particular stat or did somebody just eye test n pocket watch 450 dudes?
Top right are the superstars that are worth every penny, and Fred vanvleet😭
Nah way Kyrie and Al horford on the same value😂
Yeah this graph is BS. Who tf thinks Jalen Williams adds more value to the Thunder than Luka does to the mavs? In fact according to this the Thunder have 3 top 10 players lol
@@eliyarrows2456 it’s not about who adds more value to their team it’s based on their contract. For example when Westbrook was on the Lakers he was getting paid 40+ million but playing like he should only get 15-20. Chet and Jalen are getting paid basically nothing and are playing like they deserve 25 million
Kyrie has injury issues which prolly hurt his value
@@maxwellsings yeah that's probably it. 22 games
Ngl Tatum is a steal for 163 mil
NY got Brunson on a absolute BARGAIN deal 26 mill and it gets cheaper next year
He sucks.
The best contracts are the ones who play for a state with no income tax
see how he barely showed shai’s dot 💀
OG has also been hurt for like a bit less then half the szn no?
it’s crazy because the bulls have arguably 3 of the best contracts in ayo dosunmu coby white and alex caruso but they still manage to be the worst team of all time
Bulls have so much talent, yet they still blow. It’s unreal lmaoo. Its gotta be a coach issue cause no way does that team get smoked in the playin if they have spo as their hc
Remember when u said okc would get upset by pels?
Ya og was hurt
Day 4 of asking for top 10 complementary stars in League
“Do u want to know which nab players have the best and worst contracts?”
Me: not really
Respect De’Aaron Fox in the top right
Raptors will be happy to resign OG
AUSTIN REAVES
"Injuries are the reason that Ja, Trae, and Garland are so low"
Doesn't mention Beal....smh
Can't wait till Lavine proves everyone wrong next year.
Calling Andrew Fenichel a casual until he reply’s
OG is way better than the stats show but we also need to keep donte and mitch and hartnestein
Brunson is easily the best contract. 0 debate
How do you even determine how much a player's play is worth? This is nonsensical
Embid isn’t a superstar worth every penny? He was hurt but he was mvp last year
Can you post this graph
I see u cropping the “superstars” section so Shai is barely visible… just embrace being a thunder hater at this point because there’s no point in denying it
You got bucks wining against pacers
pay OG plain and simple
Wats the website for this
Miles McBride
Back in 2016 Steph Curry destroyed this map.
All contract team
White
Brunson
Lauri
Allen
White
This is one of the stupidest graphs I’ve seen in a long time, if you’re judging how much a guy should make with this you’re crazy.
For one, $50mill isn’t even an option for value added despite that being lower than super max yearly pay. So you can’t judge salary off this when the scale is off by $15mill lol.
Secondly, it says Isaiah Hartenstien is worth more money than Jayson Tatum, and says Jalen Williams adds more value to his team than Luka 😂🤦🏻♂️
So yeah, I would sign OG for $20 mill. Because apparently OG is as good as Paul George according to this.
Fred van vleet is that valuable?
That OG take just made me throw up. Im so sorry youre a nice guy Andrew and your videos are quite therapeutic but brother
Stephen curry is just like that
Where’s Deni??
Where JB at?
Ah yes casually disrespecting Sga even though he has the best contract in the league Average Andrew
How is how much money a player should be making quantified, because Haliburton is not better than Luka
I’m confused so what makes Jimmy and Joel in the middle of the pack here?
Like if it’s injuries for Joel I get it. But what’s Jimmy’s deal
jimmy wasnt great this season. it was obvious he was coasting till the playoffs
@@AreebMAdil ^^
21/5/5 for a player on that contract is not a good deal at all
@@AreebMAdil Oh got it! I’m a Bucks fan who hates Jimmy so this is good to hear. Like he gives our fanbase nothing but pain
Why is Steph not in the worth every penny one
Zach LaVine's contract is not 251, is 215. Plus almost all games he played this season (25) he was with a foot injury. Not good put in the video things to make his scenario worst.
where is jalen brown???
Harden/Kyrie = no value lol
Kyrie was probably because he missed 24 games this year.
Not production but injury
Another pointless graph, sometime analytics are ass for basketball and this is it
I was looking for Jaylen Brown
I don't know where Ben Simmons is but it's definitely not green 😂
Curry’s washed 😂
nah
Value doesn't just come on the offensive side of the ball Andrew 🤦🏾♂️
Ben Simmons 💀
First
bruh
I was so confused why I never seen ja at the top and I saw him at the bottom and I was so confused why he was and then he explained cause it was injurys