Union Station Bus Terminal in Toronto still dealing with congestion
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- As City of Toronto officials begin a crackdown on motorists who block intersections, one of the problematic pinch points is outside the Union Station Bus Terminal. Nick Westoll revisits the area to see if there have been improvements.
Just put a 400m bus lane and the problem is solved. Imagine how many buses to Buffalo, Niagara, etc are late 25+ min because of this nonsense.
To be fair, those long distance commuters can also get off at an earlier stop and switch to riding a train into the city, bypassing this traffic issue.
@@my2iu They can't when the station is the departure station. Also imagine getting kicked to the curb with your suitcase and your belongings arriving into a "World Class City"
This is such a simple solution... which means Toronto will never think do it 😂
@@my2iu Those buses coming from Niagara or Kingston don't have earlier stops. Union is their only stop in Toronto.
Bring more Indian drivers. Diversity is our strength.
Metrolinx and the TTC should train some of their own staff to be traffic agents, so they can deploy as needed to get their buses unstuck.
Importance hierarchy in Toronto
Visitors
Movie stars
Musicians
Toronto residents....
What a terrible terrible city to live in...
I have lived downtown for 25 years and each year it's gotten worse and worse and worse. Truly incredible work by City staff that they somehow keep making the worst decisions possible. Someone please give these guys more raises!
It's simple: if you add tolls on the Gardiner and DVP, you'll eliminate enough of the cars to end traffic once and for all. Bus only lanes getting to/from the Gardiner and the bus terminal would be a welcome sight too and could be used by emergency vehicles.
If GO can really increase capacity with the GO Expansion project… Congestion pricing might be a pretty heavy-handed, but necessary solution to traffic.
@@tcsnowdream9975 yep. Carrots and sticks. Once the carrot of great, frequent regional GO transit is established, you can bring out the sticks of tolls on urban freeways. Wild to me how the GTA has a toll on a suburban freeway instead of an urban one.
I try to avoid travelling, during rush-hour, as much as possible, into Toronto's downtown and am thankful to be living as far north as I do: in Midtown. That said, as much as I support the imposition of tolls on more roads that lead into Toronto's downtown, I see such tolls as unlikely to be imposed given the right-wing government currently in power in Ontario.
lol they built the bus terminal without thinking about this
😂😂😂😂😂exactly
@@silentchaos888 You do remember where the old bus terminal was, right? The one where they would crawl down Lakeshore, then crawl up University to reach? And then the one where getting back to the highway was so slow that they would sometimes drive across the whole city along Dundas instead? With the current one, people can just take the train instead if the bus is too slow.
Signal timing is non existent in Toronto
Add a level on top of the gardiner. Charge a massive premium.
Transit should have priority on every single route but politicians are standing in the way and are preventing this from happening and are giving priority to cars.
Just put bus lanes
Where? The roads can get any wider
The best way to get into Union is on the Go Train period.
The best way to solve this problem is to invent a teleportation machine
Make sure no fly gets into the pod.
And a LOT more public transit - more subwwys, LRTs, dedicated streetcar lanes, BRT lanes, etc. every person we can convince to get on public transit rather than get into a car is one less car on the road.
We have politicians making decisions who know nothing. Why would you arrive all construction in all cooridors. For years they ruined all guys from king to past st Clair. Wiped out car lanes for boulevards and bike lanes = only one lane left . Add a stalled bus or car and no movement!!!!! City loosing gdp production and construction workers don’t want work in Toronto as trucks can’t go in certain areas like king and bay! so we have to walk with 50lbs for a km or more = loss time. Canada going south fast in all direction and no coming back from the ruin caused by our rich politicians who don’t drive themselves and live in gated neighborhoods with protection. How does a rich person know what middle class and below need. Majority of rich were made by being ruthless and corrupt and abuse of power and not by helping or making lives of others better. Tax breaks and taking money from working class as liberals do with 40% income tax. Out of my two week paycheck of gross 3000 only got 1800$ why work should be like half of people on unemployment, baby bonus, wage subsidy, grocery handouts, pay 40$ a day in day care but pay through the room in taxes for childcare. Why do we middle class marking under 110000 work for if we only taking home 50000 then deduct gas and year expenses!!!!!!!!welcome to Canada liberals have eliminated purchasing and power of choice
How much is added to the population every year in Toronto?
according to statista, appears to be roughly over 100k
100 percent of them are from bharat
@@CobaltFoxPlays well that’ll be well over 1 million in the next decade then the system will really be under strain😢
This congestion is now the new normal and it will never get better since this is how it's going to be for the next fifty years. Induced demand will ensure we have three million cars on the road by 2050. Those roads were designed for 1 million cars.
This is Ridiculous why can't People Just Leave there Vehicles at Home. Take Transit like the TTC to go Downtowne. Get off at a Subway Station and Walk the Rest. My Dad Never Drives Downtowne as he Prefers to Take Transit Rather then Driving. As gets to a Point of Road Rage and as well as PTSD.
Car culture.
Transit is terrible in this city and not an option for many.
Why can't the city elect competent leaders who can fix the traffic issues? They could fix them pretty easily, they're just reee tarrrr ded.
The last time I took ttc was 20 years ago
The subway has very very very little coverage across Toronto. Your dad's workplace is not everyone else's too!
Chow charging instead of fixing!! C'mon
Are the pillars still alright? Look like quite rusted.
Increase parking at GO station on the LSW line. Once you drive past Clarkson, there's next to no parking at any of the stations. People then just choose to drive into Toronto because they can't find any parking at the train stations.
You break up a good point… There is just no viable public transit outside of Toronto proper. I live in the heart of the city and can get to Union Station or any part of the city with a myriad of public transit options. I just do not need to drive.
But if I were to go to Clarkson? Burlington? There aren’t any local train lines or street car lines or subways waiting for me… And buses are complicated and unique to each region.
So you need a car. If there were more train lines in subway lines within each city… That would be different, but you gotta drive outside of Toronto
MOVE THE BUS TERMINAL ! PERIOD .
Ban cars
What a solution 😂😂😂. Why don't you instead focus on banning plane travel that let out 5x more gasses into the open air.
@@bigdripbobz1072 plane is way more energy efficient on a per km per capita base
@@bigdripbobz1072 Because planes aren't clogging up the human habitat (downtown Toronto) and making it worse for everyone.
Have you ever seen any country put a ban on cars? That's not the solution. We need more roads,tunnels and bridges to tackle gridlock.
The new traffic agents direct more traffic inside a local Tim Hortons than they do on the actual streets.😂😂
If you are driving a personal vehicle downtown you should pay a toll. NYC and London have done this and it works. Take the train and the subway to your meeting. You don't need to drive when everything is a block away.
its gonna get worse. they pushing 3 days in office, so expect more people would be coming.
and when they do 4 days, its gonna be bad.
they dont have the money to fix traffic, maintain highway, roads, transit, why not just encourage work from home, and make these commercial building as housing?
stop bringing people back to office. Less reason to go downtown. Less cars less need for buses.
now imagine when the taylor swift concert in november how traffic is gonna be XD
Toronto residents should’ve been first when he was going through the list
driving a car in downtown Toronto is mad. 401 mid city also. what about the future?
The mayor will be building more bike lanes. REST Assured 🤣
Why’d they close Bay Street stn then?
I mean if the problem involves getting of Gardiner then the old bay depot does really help right?
I don't know how the Gardiner has not fallen apart with those pillars (crumbling) holding it up!
These pillars are jinx to Mayor of Toronto. It is the sword of Damocles. It just matter of time to be collapsed now without proper maintenance.
If It's so terrible, why didn't Toronto's planners do something about this decades ago? They must have seen it coming...
No way people saw a third world invasion coming decades ago.. 😂🤣
Toronto's current highway network was planned in the '40s and '50s...car travel in North America hadn't even peaked at that time. There's no way that they could've foreseen the traffic nightmare decades later.
My brilliant town planner uncle foresaw the problem 4 decades ago.
He knew that allowing Toronto to sprawl massively with new residents was something that our infrastructure would not be able to cope with.
He said Toronto must not be allowed to spread beyond Steeles Avenue in the north (where farmland began.)
He came up with a solution: that Ontario build 7 satellite cities on unused crown land in the near north, with everything needed to thrive, and that any future immigrants would be offered the choice of one as their place of residence. None could settle in Toronto.
He took his completed plan with well researched site locations and comprehensive town plans to government, but of course it was turned down.
I can’t fathom how he knew 45 years ago that unchecked growth would get so bad as to result in the exact mess we have in Toronto now.
Investing in other modes of transport is the only solution.
I don’t ever want to go downtown Toronto, no thanks! 👎👎👎🤡👎🤡🤡
There's nothing to do there anymore. Most stores at Eaton are shuttered
...yet, Olivia Chow has done nothing to improve traffic congestion.
The real solution is congestion pricing i.e. tax for driving into the downtown.
Alternatively traffic management... involving limiting the number of cars to certain days of the week. For example, if the last digit of your plate ends in an even number you can drive on M, W, F and Sunday. And, if your plate ends in an odd number you can drive on T, Th, Sat, Sunday.
I think a new section of the Gardiner need to be constructed while we have work going on; a tunnel similar to the Boston tunnel highway which would act as a by pass thru the city core for vehicles who do not need to get off within the downtown area
Can’t build a tunnel. Condos and towers surround the gardiner at the major choke points.
Charge the cars thay block the box
Solution to this is congestion tax on all the vehicles that shouldn't be there.
Tax the Indian migrants, I like it. 😂
Glad I can take a train to Union Station from Kitchener (Bramalae Station), before I took the Waterloo/ Mississauga and transfer to a bus heading to Union.
Thanks Ford. This all because of your "hard" work. You really "deserve" your paycheck.
My point exactly!!!!
There is no foresight in planning in Toronto. You complain and the government may passively take action
Toronto's city planners are achieving their goals of completely paralyzing traffic.
Tell me that all the money collected for traffic/ parking tickets has made a difference! I dare you.This is just another increase of fines with no tangible that decreases the traffic situation. This solves nothing.
Yeah, no kidding. Yep Victoria traffic might be terrible.
so the bus terminal on Bay is closed?.........kinda nutso to congest ALL bus service through other congestion, no?
We need more bike lanes duh lol.
I'm kidding fyi
No we actually do need more bike lanes plus concrete dividers to keep us safe from you drivers
We need a monorail!
We need a government that can think longterm solutions. That invest in Canada, and stop giving money away to foreign countries.
@@amit4fire lol they will invest in WOKE culture, Bike lanes, Changing Street Names, Buying small apartments for homelessness, Paying more hotel rooms for refugees.... They won't have any long term plans to build a top tier city that attracts businesses and talents globally. It is always about making geopolitical glory, and leave the issues for the next mayor.
I hear those things are awfully loud
It glides as softly as a cloud!
Maybe they needed more trains and not buses which add to road traffic. It’s not rocket science
I got an idea, build more condos and more businesses and get rid of the little space, I'm sure that will help ! More taxes ! Olivia Chow, smh...........
I have a feeling those condo dwellers aren't adding much car traffic if at all. Interesting how we prioritize the movements of people far away to the detriment of the people that live next to this car sewer.
@@AustinSersen so all those whom live there have NO CARS ? How about NO MORE Condos downtown ???
We need tolls.. guarantee the traffic will cut down. Alot of people are pointlessly driving around causing the traffic.
Doug Ford banned tolls. He passed legislation for the Province to block all toll proposals/plans at the municipal level and he will never do it provincially while he is Premier.😂😂
bus lanes would fix this
Many years of negligence by polititians. Traffic police will not improve the congestion on Gardener. The subway system is almost the same since 40 years ago. There's no way to get to the downtown except using car. Go system is badly outdated, and still running on Diesel gas. Street cars still exist to hinder the traffic. Wise polititian would have expanded the subway system little by little every year. Polititians are good at engaging in lip service. They are not qualified to do the right job.
So they gonna be bias and give priority to all buses etc and cars will be backed up onto Leslie and cherry beach. Our politicians make 3 problems trying to solve one.
How is that bias? A car typically holds one person a bus holds 50, which do you think is worse for traffic?
give tax breaks for parking your car and taking public trans.
It looks like India!!!!!
it is hahahahaah third world infratrure lol
Why do you say that? It’s funny how people are always so bold to make comments like this sitting behind a keyboard but in reality are cowards.
Why don’t you install MORE bike lanes to ALLLEVIATE the congestion!!!... that’ll fix EVERYTHING...
Nothing but a third world city !
bring in another 5 million Indian immigrants !
Olivia Chow is a joke.
Gotta tax Uber drivers
Chicago does that with the revenues used to fund the public transit system. Toronto should copy it we are similar cities.
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Remove bike lanes, widen roads and have buses have their own lane.
you think these cook oliva cow has any idea how to fix this? you know that saying dont judge a book by its cover, well you'll know you can judge a book by its cover most of the time in HOOMANS