Alfred Hitchcock's Marnie is Painful
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Alfred Hitchcock needs little to no introduction. With famed masterpieces such as 'Psycho' and 'The Birds' under his belt no one can question his talent and dedication to the craft. However, not everything he made can be received with such praise, his 1964 film "Marnie" being one such work.
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This is my favourite Hitchcock film. I love everything about it.
Yeah, it’s one of his best. Compared to ‘Turn Curtain’ it’s a masterpiece. Afraid the OP doesn’t get that this IS actually a kind of horror movie, deliberately over-the-top and illusory for expressionist effect. Hitch is artfully displaying his array of neuroses. Taking him seriously is probably a mistake.
Meeeee tooooo
This is a preposterous review. MARNIE is a great Hitchcock film. It may not come up to other superb films like A PLACE IN THE SUN, THEY SHOOT HORSES.......... and even Hitch's PSYCHO or THE BIRDS - Let's face it - Hitch is a genius.
This review is what's painful.
I agree. Marnie is the single best movie ever made and was way ahead of its time.
Unfortunately I believe you are too young and not knowledgeable enough to understand the content in this movie.
Your woke diatribe is ridiculous to apply to this time period as well.
Try watching the movie again and remove all of the social justice woke propaganda out of your head and look at it from a psychological point of view and what can happen to a person who has experienced childhood trauma.
@@nlcrme stfu with the "woke diatribe" bs
Yes she embarrassed herself badly.
Girl you don't know what you talking about! It's psychological, suspenseful, sexy and sensual and has a combination of everything.. And if it didn't reach the level of being a masterpiece what film does. I can count film masterpieces on one hand. But you have to admire that Hitchcock tted. And you'd be lying if you said that this film wasn't entertaining because it was entertaining enough for you to give your nerdy out of touch road runner fast talking review where you don't even take the time to catch your breath.
Sean Connery ❤ alone is already worth the watch
Looking at the reviewer I could have written her (they/them) review for her, it was so obvious.
I still remember being excited to see a Sean Connery movie in 1964 that wasn't about 007. Although I was only 11 or 12 it shocked me he wasn't exactly a good guy, not that he was in the Bond films either. Men openly admired women then, and women loved it. That was an ordered reality unlike today's surreal male/female dynamic that I'm reminded of something Aristotle wrote more than 2000 years ago: "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." Ol' Ari had it all figured out.
I’m not sure why you were so angry earlier in your review, but it bears mentioning that this was a very good movie, from the standpoint of public opinion. If you don’t like the plot, then that makes sense. If you don’t like the various iniquities of the early sixties naturally reflected in most films of any era, then that’s another thing altogether. I never liked Vertigo, but your presentation is such that I won’t be searching for your opinion.
Marnie is one of my favourite movies 😊
Wrong, wrong, absolutely wrong. Literally every word...wrong 👎🏻
It was a beautiful movie that covered a taboo subject of its time childhood sexual abuse. The acting was beautiful, and the delivery from Gedeen and Connery wax remarkable
Don’t waste your time reviewing movies, dear. They’re the language of dreams not autopsies.
The reviewer is entitled to her opinion, and we are entitled to ours. Mark Rutland is not a monster, but rather a conflicted man who loves Marnie. The screenwriter, Jay Presson Allen (a woman), publicly stated Hitchcock never mentioned the word "rape" to her, and she wrote the scene as a troubled moment in a marriage. Although Hitchcock claims he wanted to show Mark in the act of raping Marnie, the scene can also be interpreted as a (somewhat misguided) attempt to comfort her. As for the reviewer's comments about "Frenzy," it seems just about no one has observed how compassionately Hitchcock portrays the victim; while the scene is explicitly brutal, Hitchcock is presently it realistically, and does NOT exploit the victim's nudity. This reviewer's whole video is simply juvenile.
Movie is made in 60s. Pls dont review it in perspective of 21st century.
Yes exactly! It is not my favorite Hitchcock film but I will say it is not his worst film and as bad as she is making it sound. There are some really great and interesting scenes.
An excellent point.
I'm not convinced he r@ped her in the cruise scene. My impression when I watched it was that he covered her up and kissed her, which was still wrong, but that's as far as he went. 9:51 we see him through the eyes of Marnie as she has a PTSD flare up.
I love this movie, but you summed it up perfectly
Love the gunshot scene. Yeah, he was a monster. Kinda scary people are okay with it because he was handsome.
He wasn’t a monster. You look too deeply with your 21 century sensibilities.
@louisem7653 You missed the part where he raped her, and she was so traumatized that 🤣she tried to kill herself?
@@louisem7653 So you didn't see the assault and her attempt at self deletion afterward?🤣
Haven't seen it since I owned the VHS version from the 90's... likely before the reviewer was born, lol
Can appreciate the time spent in creating this channel's movie review (entertaining at best), but SORRY, it is not the movie that's awful, but this Channel's view... 🤔
A nice surprise too today, to see Cineplex 'sale specials' this week (Scary October: horror month) is $6.99Cdn to own digital ($5.99 rent;) to stream on 📺 😉🍿CHEERS!! I'm looking forward to watching Marnie, again!
Well put. This so-called "review" evidence a teenager as imbalanced as Marnie herself.
If you liked this movie, see Movie Bitches review of it, and it’s about the MOVIE and it’s actually FUN. Nobody is calling anyone a snot nosed brat. 🙄
You are narrow minded. It was the sixties kiddo, and things were much different. Perhaps you should talk to your grandmother who may clue you in on that decade.
This young woman certainly doesn't mind showing her ignorance of the time and attitudes that this movie was filmed. She obviously did not do any research into what was considered cutting edge mental health treatment for the time. Yes, by today's standards it is dated. She also lacks compassion for people who have emotional development issues stemming from childhood trauma. Those issues can and often do stint emotional growth in adults. There has to be a reckoning of the past with the present to ensure a better future. This woman needs to grow up and grow a heart.
Not a very sophisticated critique but fun to hear the juvenile point of view, the attempt to fit everything into a ridiculous "me too" framework.
Hardly -- MARNIE is no longer seen as one of The Master's biggest missteps; in fact, it's widely considered among his finest achievements now. The scene of Marnie trying to avoid detection by the cleaning lady is a masterclass in suspense.
Because people are increasingly perverse and delusional
Agreed. She’s off base here. As an old and a commie, and a Baltimorean who didn’t even know that the rape was a rape when I first saw it as a kid watching it on tv, it’s an excellent film.
As a PERSON, it’s an excellent film.
I love your review. I don't know why you're getting such push back in the comments. People (mostly men) just can't stand for the behavior of bad men to be exposed.
It shines light on predatory behaviour but then it shows the transition where Rutland plays Freud
i was under the impression that it was a self aware social commentary as well... until the last five minutes 🤦♂️
It's not easy to watch, though her costumes were fabulous !
Do yourself a favor and pick up a book on Hitchcock films. I suggest Hitchcock/Truffaut. Your review is like sandpaper to sunburn with ointment just a few feet away.
Damnit Albert! Dress code was black!! Awesome review, can’t wait for the next one!
No, it is NOT a bad movie. It is not a noted Hitchcock film by any means, but it is not a poorly made film. Have you ever been behide a camera and made any kind of movie? Show us yours.
i don't know who is commenting, here, but could you please comment on the Summer Olymics? On the superbowl? Love the cute, cnarky, sarcasm. Awesome sauce!🙂/
You just don’t know great film.
Of course you would like The Rope.... it's about Glays..... which you'd identify with
What are you talking about? (Apart from the awful sexual politics) it’s brilliant! Think you’re right about Lifeboat tho 🤔❤️
I've seen it twice. I beg to differ with your review.
One simply must not judge a film from 60 years ago completely under the microscope of nouveau 21st century social standards. Ironically, this film was roundly panned upon release in 1964, but for different reasons from your pan in 2023. It took decades to appreciate the fact that this film contains some of Hitchcock’s best set pieces and suspense sequences. I would suggest forgetting or forgiving the silly psychological contrivances, the passé gender stuff, even the allegedly hideous painted backdrops, and finding within this film the moments of greatness that time has revealed.
A very dark movie.
The novel can be difficult to get these days, which is a pity, because it's pretty good. It's set in England, not America, and the ending is colder and more ambiguous, but strangely more human and believable. The rape scene DID appear in the novel, but was brushed over so quickly you almost say, "wait, what just happened there?" That, of course, was not Alfred Hitchcock's way. He envisaged it as the centrepiece of the movie from the beginning and more or less built the film around it. Fun fact -- the film credits Jay Presson Allen as the scriptwriter. This is correct, but the first script was written by the novelist Evan Hunter. Hitchcock told Hunter what he wanted and Hunter sent him a script MINUS the rape scene, making it clear there was no way he was having anything to do with what Hitchcock was asking of him. Even in 1964, not every man was a pig. Hitchcock fired Hunter and replaced him with Allen, who had no trouble at all writing the scene, even defending it at film seminars as not being rape at all, but "rape fantasy."
such a good name
Oy vey! Did you ever miss the train on this one! If I were you, I would definitely read the Winston Graham novel to gain some insight into the plot, then study the history of cinema and popular culture up to that time. There is no rape scene in the book per se. Mark simply apologizes to Marnie for taking advantage of her. Jay Presson Allen's script also leaves the actual details to the viewer's imagination. The kind of "sexual blackmail" the movie depicts was not unknown at the time. In all fifty states in 1964, wives couldn't accuse their husbands of rape unless a pattern of extreme violence could be proved, much less see them prosecuted. That situation gradually changed during the early 1970s, thanks in large measure to the work of Equal Rights activists. (Another detail you missed: Rutland & Co. was a publishing house, so Mark might have hoped to have his manuscript on predatory animals published. It's more likely in any case that he was trying to gauge Marnie's reaction to the subject matter. ) Mark is just as disturbed, if not even more so, than Marnie, and that's the whole point of the movie. He is a sexual predator and Marnie never really falls in love with him -- even though he plans to pay off her debts and expects to have her completely exonerated for her crimes. It isn't fair to say he was ONLY taking advantage of her. The theme is more like, love is often obsessive and sometimes cruel. Do you have similar criticisms of Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew"? How do you feel about "Jane Eyre" or even "Cinderella"? "Marnie" broke some serious ground in bringing uncomfortable subjects out in the open. I wouldn't excuse Bernice so lightly either. She did not, it turns out, serve time for murdering the sailor. That was clearly self-defense, whoever dealt the final blow. It was the fact that she tried to make Marnie forget what had happened and cloak their (not unjustified) feelings of misandry with religion. The viewer, finally, IS supposed to identify with Marnie and the many wrongs she has suffered -- which you did. At that point in his career, Hitchcock was intent on presenting likeable characters who had serious character flaws, much like Norman Bates in "Psycho." Mitch Brenner in "The Birds" also manipulates Melanie Daniels, though not to the extent that Mark does in "Marnie." One other thing, Tippi Hedren's reminiscences of what happened between her and Hitchcock have changed somewhat over the years. I think she displaced a lot of what her husband Noel Marshall did to her during the filming of "Roar" back onto Hitchcock. It's also fairly well documented that François Truffaut never tried to cast her in "Fahrenheit 451," and that she didn't sabotage her own career by refusing to guest-star on TV. Obviously I think "Marnie" is Hitchcock's best film -- precisely because it's so disturbing and really makes the viewer feel the untold anguish that Marnie (and many women like her) went through. It was in fact extremely difficult for even a highly intelligent woman who "knew something about computers" to be independent in those days.
Eloquently said! Marnie is my favorite along with The Man Who Knew Too Much. Marnie really stands out to me and I find it highly relatable sadly.
I am not surprised you have 15 subscribers. You seem to be so blinded by your own prejudices, you have missed the point of so much about not one but two films.
Totally agree. This is a good Hitchcock film not a masterpiece but she is making it sound like it is a awful movie and has no redeeming value.
I consider it a flawed masterpiece myself. The beginning of Hitchcock’s decline.
I can see why some women wouldn’t like the movie. They gotta get over their hang-ups. 😂
I am female and I do
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Interesting how times change and movies hit differently depending on when you watch them. Well done analyzing this movie from your perspective. You’re a young lady with a lot of sense.
True, this film is bad. Marnine is Hitchcock later period movie and his production was obvious going downhill. Sean Connery never reach the level of Cary Grant or James Stewart and the actress never reach the level of Grace Kelly. The main actor is no charming. The actress is not beautiful.
Awesome video!! I love your reviews!
The wife and I turned it off not even mid way. Painfully awful.
The film or this review?
@@johnwheatley5641 : The film.
@@lrvogt1257 huh, my wife and I love the film.