Is Steam Achievement Manager Cheating?
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- Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2019
- Does using Steam Achievement Manager (SAM) or in-game achievement servers count as cheating?
Is using server commands like !giveitems cheating?
Downloading third party software to award something on your Steam account that you didn't do the intended way definitely doesn't sound like legal behaviour to me, and Steam's Subscriber Agreement is just broad enough to cover this activity, even if it doesn't give you a competitive advantage store.steampowered.com/subscr...
If you've used SAM or achievement servers to get free hats in TF2, or any other reason, you probably don't need to worry. There's no record of anyone getting banned for using SAM or achievement servers, nor for providing the software. But that doesn't change the fact that unauthorised software changing your Steam account data is the very definitely of a cheat.
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thank you for saying this i did not know this thank you so much
Valve SO Annoyings ! +1
I'm okay with cheating for cosmetics i just want my stupid little hat
Valve SO Annoyings ! +1
or some reskin of weapon thats stock
The item you get from achievements are untrable and unmarketable. Yes it is cheating but if it's not giving you a real advantage so who really cares. let the F2Ps get their hats
also some games with achievments for tf2 are gone and they're the only way to get them
@@BossKnight but you need to have the game to get the achievements, even with SAM for some reason. So they are really truly gone.
@@asai6201 you can use family share with a friend to get the game, Like A.v.A if I family shared with someone they would have it in their library
@@BossKnight What if you dont have friends like me lol
@@asai6201 I’m pretty sure they fixed the poker night with SAM.
It's hilarious that you are referring to A ToS that is literally only for the Marketplace. Not for Steam Profiles / the Steam Community.
lol,same here. I dont know why would Valve care about cheats when it does not involve fair play or real time money?
so can i or can i not get a vac ban for doing this? lol
A Gaming Platypus I’ve gone down a rabbit hole and from what I’ve gathered, the best answer I can give you is no BUT Valve could potentially start giving a shit and take action on your account.
@@ohheyman399 how probable is that they going to start doing that?
@@asishb You can use cheats to make money by unlocking achievements that give you steam items
There are few achievement items you would never get with out using sam
Usually tied to some game that got shut down.
@Aarans8 That's just cheating with more steps
@@Elf_Pyro i think so
i got the black rose without the ava game
@@gasoline9666 no its not
i used sam before when ava wasn't shut down, i dont know if sam still gives you the black rose if ava has shut down, you can try it and see if it works
@@alvaromendonca4518 Yes, you could get the black rose when you used sam to get the achivement required to get black rose
Me:
-Buys Poker Night 2
-Uses SAM to unlock TF2 items
-Ask for refund after getting items
-uses money to buy TF2 items
*STONKS*
Not me at all
i only found about SAM after i had gotten the achievements the real way but never refunded lol
then you realize the game got taken down
@@victordennis9913 I am sorry the game got WHAT
@@ilikeoranges1408 it was a joke lol
Some achievements are not obtainable anymore in some games because the online is taken down, so yeah I don’t think that unlocking only those for the 100% is cheating at all
Especially in Black Ops 3 where online is completely unsafe and hacked.
In my view, although I completely understand why you'd want to do that, that is cheating.
In red orchestra 2 there is one idiot achievement: INB4 -"You had to play within a certain 2 week period to get the inb4 reset achievement. This was a period between when they announced the stats would be reset and when they were actually reset. Just launching the game any time during that window unlocked it. It is now impossible to obtain."
I used SAM and here's why:
"valve doesn't care, then I don't care"
Well, I can't really argue with that logic!
hello so i used sam in 7 games and only got some items in tf2 , am i gonna get banned because of using this software?? and is it safe to revert my old achievements? am gonna get banned because of that?
@@losty5339 I mean, my account is still not banned so..
@@losty5339 I used SAM for tf2 in 2014 and Im still not banned ur safe bro
@@losty5339 u cant get banned for it its not a real cheat a lot of youtubers explained why its not a cheat and why its not ban worthy.
Huh. Never knew it was chat commands that achivement servers operated of off. I thoght thier maps were just made in a way to make the grinding of achivement between players go faster.
That's part of it, but the chat command also exists to trigger all the item based achievements. The chat command itself doesn't do anything (they could make the command any words they choose !givecheeseburger for example) but that then triggers a "mod" on the server which tells Steam "this user just did the conditions for all of these achievements!" even though they of course didn't
I think you should acknowledge that not everyone using these things is bad.
Imagine a kid that doesn't have access to virtual money: he'd be too desperate to get as much as possible. Sure, he'd regret it later, but he was a kid, he didn't have rational thinking.
I did this, but not for any virtual money. When I was a kid, I didn't actually know what SAM was or what it'd do. I genuinely was just curious and as a meme - decided to just use *SAM on CSGO to unlock all achievements* not giving a single shit or realising the vast quantities of achievements I would actually unlock and how SUS it really is.
I don't want all these achievements but I can't relock them otherwise I could actually trigger a VAC ban because of my retarded arse.
@@faei1897 Technically, games can legitimately relock achievements. It happens in the Stanley Parable Demo, where at some point you get an achievement although the game takes it away shortly after.
answer: yes
conclusion: do you really care if people muck with their own achievements
Thats an online feature. It not belong to the player.
Yea it's online...so what? If I give myself unlimited money in a singleplayer game, yea it's cheating but does it matter to you? It's only affecting myself. Same mentality with achievements.
I've torrented a older version of css to get a achievement u were only supposed to get in 2011 media.discordapp.net/attachments/631921233218502710/714444010336550922/Screenshot_748.png?width=1109&height=624
On steam kind of... I love grinding for 100% achievements on games I play and seeing the 0.01% of people having completed it... by unlocking those for free that number goes up and undermines other peoples hard work.
T G I agree with you but at the same time who really cares? These are video games we are talking about. You’ll always know you did it legit and they will always know they cheated.
You forgot reason 4, Not wanting to spend hours of grinding (several times), just for an achievement.
no it would be the game was shutdown
Yeah, i have better things to do than playing 1000hours to get the achievement that says im playing for 1000 hours
that the point to get that achievement -.-
@@dieudujambon mindless grind?
@@sliferx0 i mean what the point of a mindless grind achievment if everyone cheat it idk to me i dont get the point of using stuff like that it should be ban but i can see the only reason to be use is on game that achievement are broken
I'm going to say it's actually OK to use it to complete achievements that are impossible to achieve. It's not our fault Valve can't make their game work correctly.
Like the RUclips achievements upload a replay to RUclips and have it get 100000 views is now impossible because RUclips changed
@@Blazesoldier That and barely anywhere allows replays anymore
Right?! Like, it's not my fault you made the game not work right. Especially with ports.
@@delila5034 Just don't get the achievement then lmao. If it's too hard for you or it's impossible to get now then just accept it and move on. jeez
@@minnesota5167 No. I'm not going to not 100% a game just because the developers forgot they had achievements based on something that they removed.
I had seen so many achievement bugs. It really pisses You off when You play a game for hours a bunch of achievements don't work and You are not sure if you did something wrong or is it really bugged
I unlocked all the achievement hats by earning them, I only got the bugged ones through an achievement server.
It’s not unfair- what’s unfair is that it’s impossible to legitimately earn the items.
I don't really see anything wrong with SAM. Is it cheating? Yes. It absolutely is.
Does it give you an unfair advantage against enemy players like aimbot or spinbot? No. It just lets you complete something for an item that makes you look cooler.
I feel no real shame. It was NEVER about completing the achievement, it was about the reward it gave so
Who gives a shit, right?
can i get vac for it?
@@cebany nah
@@cebany that would be stupid
@@AstralJessen yes but i used it frequently for 4 days row and nothing you can't get vac
Valve SO Annoyings ! +1
Cheating is cheating, yes, but a bug is a bug. If I can’t get an achievement due to a bug, but I do what the achievement asked me to do, yes I will SAM that achievement.
"I'm real garry"
Cuz he not play Gmod anymore
lmao got that when he was in a cinema rp server
Same
Using SAM goes against what it means to be an achievement hunter
Good thing I'm not an achievement hunter
Unless the game just doesn't give you the achievement
To be fair, not everybody uses it to cheat. I exclusively use it to delete achievements so I can start over fresh.
yeah thats pretty much dead on what you just said
I use it only for games with dead servers for multiplayer.
5:34 I don't know if it is quite right. Well, I understand your point, but if a achivement is bugged, it means I got the requisites, but Steam just didn't unlocked it for me. "cheating" to activate the achievement would be just a manual way of making it work.
Fucking exactly man, it was such a stupid point to make. Even in the event of it being impossible to obtain then it's just once again the fault of the creator and steam for not making it work properly.
Me: *uses SAM to get the 1 year gmod achievement*
Getting that achievement legit is imposible
@@pernomardene6166 just run gmod while you sleep lol
Especially the real garry achievement
@CyanYT who’s gonna suspect me? My friends I don’t have?
@CyanYT lol i did that and who’s gonna look at our hours? And plus valve doesn’t seem to care
I regret using the achievement servers years ago when i first started playing tf2.
Why tho?
Same! I had 1 page of inventory so most items I needed to delete and now I don't have a lot of items.
@@bearydangerous6318 probably because of the dissatisfaction of not getting them legit
Same, but i still defend the achievement servers because who really cares that players get new achievements and dumb hats the easy way?
i like having something to look forward to so i'd be pretty sad if i got all of them too
It's so sad, i can't even get the Iron curtain to make my dream Heavy.
You can! Go on g2a get a poker night at the inventory 1 key for for around 10 dollars that's what I did.
@@Skumbanan16 doesn't g2a sell unlicensed games and stuff like that also they have some kind of subscription that you have to pay for and can't cancel
@@alaraby7997 I haven't had any problems with a subscription. But they do sell those but there's also licensed games.
I have used SAM exactly once, to get a few achievements in Rust that I did like a million times and they wouldn't work. I'm pretty OCD and sometimes a purist, and I don't see my actions as cheating.
Because it's not so long as you're sure you met the requirements and the game was actually bugged. If you're cheating because you gave yourself an achievement that steam didn't give you, then you're just cheating a system that cheated you out of an achievement.
I'm not going to make an entire new save on Sekiro just because a well-known bugged achievement randomy doesn't proc and three years later they still haven't fixed it.
Well, while the use of it is cheating by definition, the guidelines you showed are applied to the steam marketplace, not the products steam sells, therefore, this explains why the people who have used SAM haven't been banned, or ever will. And even then, they can't profit off of these items, and the items they do get aren't good looking or valued by most. For example, Gibus and such other hats are often mocked for, by toxic players, so some f2p's won't even wear them.
Regardless - it is cheating by definition, but it is not by how valve handles it. In their eyes, if you want a couple weapons and a few shitty hats, sure, whatever.
Question, I did it by accident and I started to get really worried that I might get banned. Is there a way I can reset certain achievements? Anything would help
It should be considered how much the other players are affected by a cheat. I mean, cheating in a game like cs or paladins spoils the experience for others, but if you use a cheat in a single player game you practically don't bother anyone
dude that statement by steam is specified to steam marketplace, not achievements.
that statement is put in place to prevent automated buying/ selling or cheating steam out of money in marketplace transactions.
This dude sounds like the guy who would be upset with you for playing with cheats in a single player game
I remember playing black squad when it had a bunch of bugged achievements. I spent hours trying to redo a bunch of achievments not knowing that it was really bugged or I was making a mistake.
Turns out it was a bug that they haven't fix for couple of months.
And I had scenarios like this happening to me many times
I actually didn't know this was a thing and it helped me. Basically I sinked 40h in one game only to one simple achievement not trigger. So I used this only to ''correct'' the bug. I don't like to cheat achievements but I didn't feel bad - I'd probably use it again if something like that ever happened again
I am not sure how these things work, but thank you, I was afraid that using SAM to delete achievements might cause problems, on a valve game or not (for EU4 specifically, I did a few achievements using cheats, and wanted to get them legitimately)
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Edit: nvm, I re-read the desc and found it, lmfao im blind
2:20 what is the background music?
Hey, I have a problem I just wonder if there’s a quick fix or there isn’t so one time when I had a free to play account I went to one of those servers got a bunch of items but they were too many and I couldn’t get them if there’s someway to re-do it and still get those items can you please tell me
Now, I'm using this SAM (steam achievement picker) just for a game called Unturned, im I have all of the achievements done, could it be considered cheating still?
An achievement is nothing more than knowing yourself that you was good enough to do it (what ever it is) and the game confirming it.
The reason for which I'd use this is quite interesting:
Recently, I tried the givemeall command on a server and after that, I felt quite ashamed of myself so I decided to reset my achievements.
Well, now, I'd use SAM to give myself back the achievements that, for me, where taken by pure chance, like the Merasmus Tune thing or the Prime Cuts, which was literally random, achievements that, again, I had on my account before.
Is it really that bad if I want to get back the achievements I already had?( except for those that are in your control)?
Lmao my reason is because I didnt wanna replay P5R and Strikers on PC for achievements when I did on PS4
When i use this program to reset achivements in Geometry Dash game i dont get game ban or steam ban?
If I do this for poker night 1&2 will I get the items or do I actually have to play the game?
For example I achieved most of the achievements in Hearts Of Iron 4 but I’m using mod ( not for cheat but for graphics) and for that reason achievements are locked but actıally I gained them all. So I want to use it in HOI4 do I get banned?
i just want dangersque too is it still unloackable with SAM?
so i dont know when but i think years ago i did !givemeall achievement map.and i dont have the items like the binoculars or the monuculus. and other hallowen stuff. is it even possible to regain them? beacuse i have these achievements "done" but i dont have them and no i didnt delete them
Back in my day achievement servers actually just had specially crafted areas on maps to help you do those achievements, not typing a command in chat.
Damn, you an og
@@TertiaryGuyFieriThat was the good shit, back then.
I was looking for a video about this, since 5 years ago I used one, but I deleted the achievement items, if I e-mail steam support am i more likely to get my items, or be banned?
Just email them saying you deleted the items and were wondering if you could get them back
You don't have to mention the way you got them
I’ve only ever used this for 2 achievements. One, Legend for TES 5 because it was horribly bugged and there was no issues found except for using the SAM. Two, Polamory in Dying Light is near impossible to get because there’s nobody to play with anymore.
Excellent! Now I can 100% a few games by getting some of the impossible achievements.
I'm looking at you Pillars of Eternity "Kickstarter Backer" achievement!
FYI: The kickstarter for the game was closed long before I bought (or even heard about) the game.
Not sure if this is still valid, but if i just wants to remove an achivement because of a mod. Is that still 'cheating'?
I accidently deleted my HHH head on my account, can I use SAM to undo the achievement so when I get the achievement again, I get the head again??
Unfortunately not. The only way to get it back is to contact Steam support. They're usually pretty good at returning items you accidentally deleted!
is it safe? I have used 1 month to play CSGO and Payday 2 using SAM but nothing has happened yet, can it be banned if it is used continuously for other online games?
so, i can use SAM for achievements in offline games or games while im not getting a advantage?
Is there a legit way to delete achiements? And if i delete them, will my completion rate finally reset? Because i aready uninstall some games, but the achieménts are still there!
Basically yes, but there are some achievements you can't obtain anymore like Batman Arkham Origins' online mode. So I guess "cheating" there is not so bad
bro i used sam today and in cs it said VAC was unable to verify integrity of game files and i will install in again cuz it doesnt work in any way i hope i am not game banned
hey i got a question i want to use it for a game that isn't even played anymore ( i don't have Sam but i kinda want it for that reason alone do you think that okay) alien swarm . please help me by telling me not to or do it :/
Only you can make that choice my friend
@@Casperrnah i can't :/ dont feel like it worth
Steam doesn't ban SAM cuz there's nothing to ban it for. SAM is nothing more than a frontend app for Valve's own public Steam API. The same things you do with SAM you can do on your own Steam client console, SAM only makes it easier and prettier. It's nothing against Steam's ToS and that's why it will never be banned
well hey, i tried to use SAM to lock and unlock an achievement because it was supposed to give me a taunt in tf2, and before i did it but my inventory got wiped for some reason and i had to start over again which is stupid, and it didnt work. whyyyy
i only use S.A.M. to get achievments that are unobtainable or that don't present a challenge and are just a massive grind
5:34 if i do the task i know would have unlocked the achievement and it doesn't unlock because it's bugged, then i'm perfectly okay with using SAM to unlock said achievement. i don't think that scenario should be considered cheating.
I only ever used SAM to delete achievements I got when I was 14 by cheating, or games that I simply wanted to replay in their entirety
How was it?? Is your account safe?
I am thinking to use it because my relative used my account and unlocked achievements. Now I have time, they are already unlocked.
I remember using it years ago when I was f2p. I wanted to get the black rose but the game you had to play to earn it, didn’t allow me to play it in my region
hi guy from 2 years later
how in the world does SAM *remove* achievements
i had to remove the greased lightning and sick throw achievements from sonic generations and terraria respectively because i had gotten them illegitimately (GL from a mod with a quick first level, and ST from a item world)
It's always morally correct to cheat as long as your action doesn't affect other people negatively in-game or irl.
It's always morally correct to cheat in videogames.
It's always morally correct to cheat in real life, as long as you aren't hurting anyone or violating the Valve ToS
It's always morally correct to cheat, as long as your girlfriend doesn't suspect anything.
Tbh its just
"I wont act like i earned it, but i just want the achievments that give me stuff"
Did you get banned?
@@casperfrantzen What? no i just used one of those servers that you enter !givemeall on and you get every achievment, well almost every achievment.
4th option: the achievement requirements are no longer possible to complete
5th option: a different game that is needed to get a cosmetic /item is no longer possible to download
Can i use Sam for crimecraft gang wars?
I feel so dumb I saw the giveitems command in the chat and didn't know what it was, and then it gave me the milestone items, and the 2 top hats, am I ok
Yeah I can use that excuse, I didn't know _at the time_
I figured it out not long after, but at the time I didn't know. Wish I hadn't done it now lmao
I just use SAM to unlock all of those achievements in the puzzle games which would give you some cool symbols, to show off on your profile page's achievement showcase.
What game?
As an achievement hunter, I use SAM to get the bugged ones that simply don't pop
Depends on what you're using them for, I've used it on like 2-3 games where I did what was required to get an achievement, yet for some reason the achievement didn't pop. So SAM is useful for making those pop. I think Stardew's Valley "Complete Shipment" was one such achievement for me, and the game has an in-game tab of stuff that you have to ship for it. I was tempted to use it for Tower Wars. For Tower Wars, I was gonna increase my achievement % for the game by getting what I could, but then I learned that because the rank servers were shut down and something else(I think the mod manager or something, I forget), the highest % I could've gotten for the game was like 30-40%, I didn't do the math though. The achievements that I COULD get sounded painful to get for somebody popping into the game years after the fact so I lost motivation to get those. It didn't seem right to use SAM to get the defunct achievements for a game that I wasn't 100%ing anyways, especially because I PROBABLY wouldn't have gotten them even if the servers were up.
I really wish Devs would stop implementing achievements that require such a server to begin with.
Is it possible to reset these achievements?
Only reason I would use this is if a game was bugged even when the required work was put into obtaining the achievement.
If I use it for lock my achievements. Is this cheat?
But now in year 2020 isn't poker night at inventory available and I realy REALY want that reskins, I now it's just reskin...but it's nice and I want it. So is usage (SAM) cheating?
I know this is 6 months old and you've probabley already used SAM but I would recommend buying a game code off of for example ebay where at least you can earn the achievements legitimately
i like how i looked up how to set up sam to remove an achievement from my user, as i dont want to friend my friends and them being like "wait why did you play that" and then i get this as the second result
I didn't use SAM to get achievements but I downloaded it to get rid of achievements but when I tried to use it, it only added even more achievements...
Can I use this to get my haunted metal scrap back?
Or 4th it is a multiplayer achievement and the online aspect of the game is dead
bro they don't even care about the cathook bots why would they care about achievement servers
Honestly like a year ago I used one of those achievement servers thinking oh it's probably just gonna give me some random weapon drops maybe a hat or two, nope I was wrong, I was pretty scared but Valve really has not done anything to me, I think mostly because I had no idea it would lead to that
I used it for one achievement that I didn't unlock because I guess my internet went down or something, and that is one of the chapter completion related achievements in FFXIII. I didn't even realized I didn't get it until I beat the game and saw one missing.
what about if i want to lock my achievments to do them again? I really hope that we get an option to do that on steam so i don't have to use another program... but i also think that unlocking achievments shouldn't be punished, unless it gives you some kind of advantage or unlock something important on the game like a competitive mode. Valve knows the existence of this program, that's why when they did the last sales with achievments points they put a limit, so you can only get an amount of points based on what you bought on steam
I understand why you want to do that and there's certainly nothing malicious about your intent. But at the same time, the whole concept of an achievement is a goal you reach. You can un-reach a goal. Once you've done it you've done it. Maybe if it's a F2P game you want to do the achievements on again you can make a second account? 🤷♂️
@@Casperr TF2 has an option to reset all the achievments to do them again, that's better solution than creating another account, i just wish that Valve adds an option like that on my library
If I used the servers has any problem ?
i want spiral sellet and spiral nights close every time i open it, what can i do :l
Can anyone help ? It says that SAM.exe failed to run when I choose one of my games , i can not find the solution
Question: what if one of the achievement servers had all the tf2 maps *including holidays maps and all of the campaigns like the doomsday rocket?
I played through dark souls 3 with a modpack and some of the achievements were unable to be unlocked because the ids of some items were different so that kinda sucks but I havent used Sam
can SAM remove achievements? i deleted my achievement hats a few years ago and want them back
What if i use it to whip all of my achievments (yes, SAM can do that)? Simply to redo my favorite offline game?
Is it cheating when i remove all achievements from Terraria beacause i want to play it again ?
what if i want to remove a achievement?
i play apex a lot and i have almost all of the achievements i lately switched to apex on steam now i have to reget all of my achievements i want to use sam so i can get the achievements i already have on origin will apex/steam ban me for using sam to getting those achievements and will it realy be chieting please give your opinion
No you won’t get banned
will i get band if i use Steam Achievement Manager
What about servers where players can earn achivements, but like if it was in offical server?(I played on idle one, doing achivement for killing 5000 by engineers sentry)
When I was a brand new player I was on a TF2 item server and got the item achievements, it was by complete accident, and I was super pissed that the server bamboozled me as a new player. I'm glad I never used SAM though.
Hello, I have a question for you - can I get banned for this? Can it be safely used to obtain achievements that cannot be obtained, etc.?
From what I know poker night 2 doesn't exist anymore so if I ever download this thing I'd only use it to get items that are technically no longer gettable but still exist in the game like the big kill or the stock knife reskin
When I was a young and budding Free2Play I too went onto one of these achievement servers to unlock some weapons I really wanted.
I had no idea about the economy and I was getting desperate to use some of the weapons my favourite content creators were (wrangler, unersaw etc.)
I did regret it though. I ended up using SAM to reset my achievements and now I live in fear that Valve will one day bring out the banhammer on me. Only time will tell.
We all did my friend. I used to use achievement servers a lot for items. But hey, even though it is quite unfair, it is still not as worse as LMAOBOX cheats or sth like that since our goals are just to get items. Seriously, I cannot play when LMAOBOX users are in the server and the worst thing is that they are blatantly cheating yet the other team is doing nothing. What a bunch of d*cks!
@@David-pf3he If they haven't used it on a server like an idiot then no, they won't get VAC'd.
You wont get banned for this for example like your nkt allowed to walk in this area but you run in it you did not walk you just ran in that area so technicaly this aint breaking no rules because i did not walk i ran so yea its okay your safe
I USED IT, still playin
@@UserStupidity is SAM hard to set up? I wanna download it and get some free hats without effort
I've been considering using SAM for the RUclips milestone achievements in TF2 for a while now, what's y'all's opinions on this?
You will be fine
Considering those are broken nowadays so there's no "legit" way, the only thing stopping you is your conscience
they're physically impossible to get so its completely legit to get those