Damn, you lowkey already did all the best east teams 🫣. 1. Celtics 2. Sixers 3/4. Bulls/Heat (they’re very close) 5. Bucks (although they’re also very very good and could compete with any of the teams above them)
I’m 25 from the Bay Area I just found this channel like 2 weeks ago. Easily best basketball channel right now. Completely unbiased, all facts and nice edits
Anthony Mason over Whiteside. I would even pick PJ Brown or Haslem, making the right plays and being enforcers instead of stat chasing and chasing after the big contract
This team is stacked and quite a contrast to yesterday. I totally agree w/having Hardaway as the starting PG. He was incredible. I remember watching him and Zo and they were fun to watch and a great combo. Great point about Shaq's passing too. That is def a part of his game that isn't discussed as much. It makes sense that he became a good passer, esp. given how he was double teamed a lot. LeBron's 3 point shooting was great then too, if I remember correctly. The starting 5 is definitely one of the best and so hard to stop. It would be so fun to see a Wade and Hardaway backcourt also. Excellent bench/ 2nd and 3rd unit also. A frontcourt of Zo and Adebayo would be intimidating and packed with scoring too (and their backups of Odom and Whiteside are good too). Butler and Allen would be amazing also. Great video. Love this series! Have a nice day, Jonny 😊
I mean they don’t have any other real options at the point. lol. Tim is far better than the next best which would be Goran dragic, old GP, old lowry, and old White chocolate l.
@@TheIcemanthomas lol true. I guess my comment was also influenced by nostalgia b/c I was a Hardaway fan. You're right that the other PGs are not as great as him.
Man, this is a scary one. Great job Jonny, blessings for you and your family, from this suscriber who enjoys very much your content. Regards from Mexico city.
As a Heat fan, Udonis Haslem not even being an Honourable mention is crazy Jonny. The rest of the list is great but any Heat fans know prime Haslem was much more of an effective player and winner than Whiteside. He’s also Miami’s all-time leader in rebounds, and I’d much rather have his much more versatile defence, far better midrange jumper and adaptability on the floor over Whiteside’s inflated shot blocking
@@williamscobey6073 I watched Whiteside’s entire rise and fall. He was basically everything people accused Westbrook of being, but for blocks. He would routinely do things like leave assignments and not box out if it meant him maybe getting another block or 2. He was also just not a good defender as a whole especially in the pick n roll. Other NBA fans just see that Miami developed him into earning a nice contract and putting up some nice stats at his peak, Heat fans remember Spoelstra benching him in 4th quarters because of his awful IQ, lazy defence and terrible shot selection (because someone apparently told him one day he had a post fadeaway in his bag, and he believed them)
@@AndrewNaranjo-dt7mr I didnt even think about that either but 100% since Lamar only had one kinda meh season in Miami. Ron Seikaly should definitely be on this list as well. Don’t see why Whiteside and Odom are here
Nah its Zo. He was a good to great 1st option until 2000' and then after his injuries and near retirement in 2002 he came back and provided the most meaninful minutes of Heat basketball any player has played outside of Wade... His shot blocking numbers off the bench per 36 are jaw dropping.
Oh man I am LOVING this series. This team is stacked with on paper talent. Stacked! Insane! BUT... I do see some spacing vulnerabilities and some lack of shooting compared to other teams. They seem ever so slightly mismatched. The second unit is arguably insufficiently talented at the guard spots and insufficiently spaced out on the big men side. Playmaking is also lacking a bit in the second unit. Both the starting and backup pointguards are vulnerable defensively...
The whole video I was saying to myself ok Steve Smith has got to be next. Can't believe you left him off. But great video. PISTONS, CELTICS,maybe Bucks but Miami is top five in the east for sure
Welcome to the Heat culture, the most successful expansion franchise of the professional big 4 sports, yeah, even the Vegas Golden Knights. Like Chicago, I feel this team having mostly defensive oriented players might hurt them when they really need to score, along with the fact that their 3-pointers are all on the bench, making Hardaway and Wade's offense predictable. Unlike Chicago though, I think Miami will have a deeper run in the postseason in spite of these flaws. Lebron, Shaq, Mourning, and Jimmy Butler are all 2-way versatile legends that can impact both sides of the court. Add in the fact that Lebron and Jimmy both have that dawg in them in critical moments, and this is a team that can make the conference finals if they get past Philly and/or Milwaukee to get a shot at Boston. However, 2005 Shaq was the only year for him that was really prime Shaq, and even then, he lost to the Pistons that year, so I would personally start Mourning over Shaq here, but I see where you're coming from. A similar case goes for me picking Rony Seikaly over Odom or Whiteside, but again, both of those two had good years in Miami. But hey, those are just my thoughts. Keep up the good work, and now I'll see you for the Jazz. I'm not wrong now, right?
Yup u gotta start ZO over the Miami version of Shaq. Shaq in his best years in Miami was putting up 20 with avg defense and rebounding. ZO in his Miami days also averaged 20 but he was a much better defender than any version of Shaq and arguably a better rebounder also. so I'm definitely going with ZO
It's honestly astonishing what the Heat have achieved as an 1988 expansion team until today when you compare it to the other expansion teams from the 80s and 90s: Mavericks, Hornets, Timberwolves, Magic, Grizzlies, Raptors. Most likely all of the success of the Heat is thanks to Pat Riley. 5:12 I believe the G and the C are pronounced the other way around :)
@@jonnyarnettregarding the Hornets, the original Hornets history actually belongs to the Bobcats/Hornets franchise of today, according to the 2014 agreement brokered by the NBA between the Pelicans and the then-known Bobcats
Another great video but two small disagreements: I would take Miami Zo over Miami Shaq, for their peak/longevity combo. And I feel like itnwould be a better fit, even though the Diesel will not like to come off the bench. Also, I would take Herro or Jones over Whiteside, who had great stats but not great impact and is useless in a team with already 4 legit centers way better than him. Herro or Jones would provide scoring off the bench, which is lacking.
I was thinking about that as well. Mourning was there longer and accomplished just as much and had his career not been interrupted then who knows what else he and the heat accomplish. With that said, Shaq was almost still in peak shape, even an almost peak shape Shaq, still is better than prime mourning. The gap was just that big between Shaq and the rest of the bigs.
@@MJIZZELI just think the impact of zo defensivly would be much more beneficial than the impact that shaq would have on the offense. Plus shaq off the bench would be insane in terms of opposing teams having to game plan for assuming he would buy in.
But I think for the team Alonzo being the starter would be better. We are getting prime Alonzo, not the one who is sick with heart condition, so him being in the starter would be better and if Shaq comes off the bench it would be a different scoring style as the first unit would be faster while the second unit will play more slower basketball with Shaq as more of an anchor.@@catherinelynnfraser2001
Size and versatility make this team a nightmare. Stellar offense and defense. Multiple MVP and DPOY candidates. Crazy depth in the front court. And shot blockers galore on the court at all times.
When I think of Shaq, I tend to think Magic--Lakers--Heat in that order, although that doesn't exactly track with his accomplishments. If Shaq IS the starting center here, I'm taking Alonzo Mourning at PF even though I see him more as a Hornet. Tough one for me.
Omfg YES. I WAITED FOR THIS. I made my own all time heat list on fb a while back so this will be interesting UPDATE: HOLY FREAKING WHOA WE HAD DAMN NEAR THE EXACT SAME LINE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE only difference we had was I had Gary Paryton as my back up PG, and bam was my C with Alonzo at PF
As a Heat fan, this was very cool to watch. Thank you, thank you, thank you... For calling Alonzo Morning, Zo. It's cringy for me as a big fan of Zo to hear people giving the same nick name to lonzo ball who career wise is lengths behind Zo. I love your list but the last two are debatable. Lamar Odom should be a honorable mention, and Hassan Whiteside was our consolation during a dry era of rebuilding, but he was just a stats chaser. Instead of him, a clear #12 in the roster is Anthony Mason. You missed him in the honorable mentions. He along with Brian Grant, eddie jones and caron butler gave us a fun team, but he was the heart of the team and the best performer when the weight was on eddie and brian grant to deliver. #13 instead of Lamar Odom, I think it's debatable between eddie jones and Tyler herro. Herro is very young and still getting better, and if he was a knick, he would have been to the all star game already and espn would be giving him praises non stop. Other honorable mentions should be Antwan Walker and of course: Udonis Haslem!!! Culture!!! 😅
Shaq vs Zo is way harder than it seems. Both have an MVP runner up in Miami and Zo has a third place too, plus the two DPOYs. Could argue he fits way better with peak LeBron as well.
Nah man u gotta go with ZO because the Miami version of Shaq was averaging 20 points in 06 with avg defense and rebounding. ZO in his prime years as a HEAT also averaged 20 but he was definitely a better defender and rebounder than any version of Shaq let alone Miami Shaq.
EDDIE JONES over Hassan Whiteside no question, you need more shooting on this team anyway! This Miami Heat team is definitely All-Time team favorites right up there with the Lakers & the Celtics!! Nice video, spoiled it for me at the very end with Hassan Whiteside out of so many other honorable Miami Heat former players
I'd have had Mourning over Heat Shaq in the starting position. Seikaly,Eddie Jones and Haslem could have been mentioned too. I always liked P.J. Brown and Voshon Lenard, 2 great defenders of that great 1997 squad. Mashburn, although not scoring as much as on the Hornets, was also nice. Payton also had his value,coming off the bench. Overall, one of the best teams in this series.
I run the all time Heat more than any other team in 2k. If we’re going by position LeBron played the 4 a lot so imo a better starting 5 would be Tim Wade Jimmy Bron and it gives you an open option for the center historically the Heat’s strongest position and putting LeBron at the 4 also sures up the Heats weakest position that being the 4.
Definitely ZO averaged 20 just like the version of Shaq in Miami but ZO was an elite defender and rebounder and better at both than any version of Shaq let alone Miami Shaq
Even though Udonis isnt a starstudded player like LeBron, Jimmy, Wade, or Bosh, he gave the team that mental edge needed to compete every night. He definitely shoupdve been an honorable mention
This team is stacked. I'd project this team as a 5 seed but I could see them finishing as high as the 3 seed. Clearly the Celtics are the 1 seed and the Bulls are the 2 seed. I see the Bucks and 76ers as the 3 and 4 seeds. But this Heat is very complete. It has lots of scoring, several good defenders, several good rebounders, and some great outside shooters. This team could actually reach the Eastern Conference Finals, they are complete, they have outstanding depth, and they have guys with the clutch gene. The only team this Heat team definitely couldn't beat in the Ultimate Team Eastern Conference playoffs is the Celtics. I see this team finishing between 3 and 5 during the regular season, making it to the Eastern Conference Finals, and losing to the Celtics there.
This team is nasty. Kind of reminds me of the all time Bulls. Legendary defense great shooting underrated big men with elite all time great forward and guards
Jonnyarnett, you not showing Steve Smith no love on the Hawks or the Heat I would definitely have Steve Smith in my rotation especially with this Heat team you could have Glen Dirty Rice along with Ray Allen and Steve Smith
@@joel8692 23 pts / 10 boards / 2.3 blocks is still insane. Just because he was better as a laker doesn't mean he wasn't nice especially giving that he was in the mvp race. But with a prime Lebron and wade as teammates as well he would've been a matchup problem due to the fact that those two would demand so much defensive attention.
I'm taking Whiteside off and putting Steve Smith up there you got Shaquille O'Neal Zo Bosh and Bam you good off the bigs hell Shane Battier would be a good fit also you got Lamar Odom in the there.
Great series Jonny, keep on making them! Of course Shaq is better overral (one of the GOATs), but I would put 99 DPOY and MVP runner up Zo Mourning in the 1st squad in front of 05 Shaq.
yup the Miami version of Shaq can't start over ZO who spent his prime years in Miami. Shaq in Miami in 06 was scoring 20 with avg defense and rebounding ZO also averaged 20 in Miami but he was an elite defender and rebounder and better than any version of Shaq at both those things. So yes I'll go with ZO
love it , i woudnt put lamar on ho bc only one season, and i wouldn’t put hassan bc there’s already 3 great bigs in front of him, id go with eddie jones so we have another ball handler he also was miami’s best player before Dwade
This series is easily my favorite one :) As for this Heat team it is perfect with the exception of Lamar Odom. I would replace him with Mashburn, Seikaly, Herro, Haslem, Steve Smith ect.
I like this team. If you wanna play big you can put lebron at the point and start butler at the 3, with bosh and shaq, or u can play small with bron at the 4 and start butler at the 3 with bosh at the 5 for spacing
UH shoulda been on there somewhere. He may not be great, but he's imo as much the face of the Heat as Wade since he played there his entire 20 yr career. This one of the best teams yet tho!
So far I think the Chicago Bulls and Boston Celtics are still tied to be the ultimate team but this Miami Heat and Philadelphia 76ers are both a close second.
I feel like Alonzo should start. Shaq had two good years in Miami compared to Alonzo's five, and in those five, Alonzo was arguably better: Alonzo (1995-96 to 1999-00) 21 pts, 10 rbs, 53.5% fg, 67.3% ft, 3.1 blks. Shaq (04-05 to 05-06) 21.6 pts, 9.9 rbs, 60.1% fg, 46.4% ft, 2.1 blks. Despite Shaq's higher fg% and the luxury of playing alongside D Wade, their TS% was the same (58%). Not to mention, Alonzo was a MUCH better defender.
@@OpaqueNihilist I'm guessing you're too young to have witnessed Alonzo's prime. He WAS the Heat, he made them relevant. He is 2nd all-time in scoring for the Heat (behind D Wade), 1st in blocks (more than doubles 2nd place), and 2nd in rebounds (behind Udonis).
What is the Power Rankings for the Ultimate East Teams so far??? Heat, Bucks, 76ers, Bulls, Celtics.....
1, Heat
2, Celtics
3, Bulls
4, 76ers
5, Bucks
Damn, you lowkey already did all the best east teams 🫣.
1. Celtics
2. Sixers
3/4. Bulls/Heat (they’re very close)
5. Bucks (although they’re also very very good and could compete with any of the teams above them)
C's
Heat
Bucks
76ers
Bulls
Why wasn't Mike Miller an honorable mention?
I have the Heat at #1 so far
Man, what a squad! Probably the most powerful franchise nowadays based on the time passed since it entered the NBA
Shawn Marion was in the Heat for a Year also
Right!
Wade is unquestionably the Miami Heat GOAT.
Don't kid yourself, that's silly and you know why
@@cryingfish2488 I guess Michael Jordan is the greatest Washington Wizard of all time according to your logic.
@ant4613 he wasn't bad as a wizards for being almost 40🤷
@@cryingfish2488he is correct. WADE best Miami player
@@999lilo I agree lol.
The picture of KG looking at Ray at 6:26 is pure comedy
It made me laugh lol
I'd have Alonzo Mourning start over Shaq, the defensive value on a team with scoring threats like Wade and LeBron is massive
I’m 25 from the Bay Area I just found this channel like 2 weeks ago. Easily best basketball channel right now. Completely unbiased, all facts and nice edits
Welcome bro
For sure, I love Johnny's knowledge of the game and calm delivery.
Love this series. Been making my own version of these rosters on 2K for years (my rosters were peak)
Same it’s so fun
Just use the all time team, it’s basically the same thing
@@Jay_draco I mean it’s not quite the same, it’s more about the personal input. Plus in older 2ks all time rosters aren’t there
Good selections. I would make one change...Rony Seikaly over Whiteside.
Or Steve Smith over Whiteside
Nah amare stoudemire no doubt
Anthony Mason over Whiteside. I would even pick PJ Brown or Haslem, making the right plays and being enforcers instead of stat chasing and chasing after the big contract
This team is scary! Loving this series.
Would be cool if you chose an all time coach too
Great idea fr 💯💯. I believe the best coach/leadership for each team matters as well
Riley about to be split in 3 repping LA, MIA and NYC
@@andrewcook1246 Phil will probably overtake him in LA.
@@supratrd900 You think the all time LA team should run and gun or go triangle?
@@andrewcook1246run and gun
A beast of a team
This team is crazy good for how short their history is
Dude, I love this video ❤❤
Kept waiting for Glenn Rice. Respect for this chanel
This team is stacked and quite a contrast to yesterday. I totally agree w/having Hardaway as the starting PG. He was incredible. I remember watching him and Zo and they were fun to watch and a great combo.
Great point about Shaq's passing too. That is def a part of his game that isn't discussed as much. It makes sense that he became a good passer, esp. given how he was double teamed a lot.
LeBron's 3 point shooting was great then too, if I remember correctly. The starting 5 is definitely one of the best and so hard to stop. It would be so fun to see a Wade and Hardaway backcourt also.
Excellent bench/ 2nd and 3rd unit also. A frontcourt of Zo and Adebayo would be intimidating and packed with scoring too (and their backups of Odom and Whiteside are good too). Butler and Allen would be amazing also.
Great video. Love this series! Have a nice day, Jonny 😊
I mean they don’t have any other real options at the point. lol. Tim is far better than the next best which would be Goran dragic, old GP, old lowry, and old White chocolate l.
@@TheIcemanthomas lol true. I guess my comment was also influenced by nostalgia b/c I was a Hardaway fan. You're right that the other PGs are not as great as him.
Heat team is deep nice to see Rice and Odom made it.
Man, this is a scary one. Great job Jonny, blessings for you and your family, from this suscriber who enjoys very much your content. Regards from Mexico city.
The Big Three Heat's supporting cast will determine if they can advance versus some of these other All Time Teams.
As a Heat fan, Udonis Haslem not even being an Honourable mention is crazy Jonny. The rest of the list is great but any Heat fans know prime Haslem was much more of an effective player and winner than Whiteside. He’s also Miami’s all-time leader in rebounds, and I’d much rather have his much more versatile defence, far better midrange jumper and adaptability on the floor over Whiteside’s inflated shot blocking
I agree you got to have Haslem on the team.
@@williamscobey6073 I watched Whiteside’s entire rise and fall. He was basically everything people accused Westbrook of being, but for blocks. He would routinely do things like leave assignments and not box out if it meant him maybe getting another block or 2. He was also just not a good defender as a whole especially in the pick n roll. Other NBA fans just see that Miami developed him into earning a nice contract and putting up some nice stats at his peak, Heat fans remember Spoelstra benching him in 4th quarters because of his awful IQ, lazy defence and terrible shot selection (because someone apparently told him one day he had a post fadeaway in his bag, and he believed them)
I was absolutely shocked he wasn’t mentioned in this video, I’d take him over Lamar
@@AndrewNaranjo-dt7mr I didnt even think about that either but 100% since Lamar only had one kinda meh season in Miami. Ron Seikaly should definitely be on this list as well. Don’t see why Whiteside and Odom are here
The Heat have only been in existence for 35 years, and the dude spent all 20 years of his NBA career with them. He definitely deserves at least HM.
This team will give a run for their money to any other team
Been waiting for this. Thanks!
This is exactly what I have in my mind. A very dangerous team during the playoffs. Thanks for this video!
Another gem brother! Great work.
I’d put Rony Seikaly in the place of Whiteside. You get a consistent big who had a more all-around upside. Otherwise, absolutely agree with this one!
Thought the same thing. Seikaly offers something different, Whiteside is made obsolete by all the bigs in front of him
Genuinely considered it, I just liked the endless rim protection
Mashburn
@@jonnyarnett understandable, but we’ve already got Zo and Shaq! Anyhow, I can’t tell you how much I’m loving this series. Chef’s kiss stuff
@@keithrochester4671 in front of whiteside or odom? I also thought about him here, too. He was excellent in Miami
Nice series, currently binch watching the playlist
Love these mate keep them coming
Can't wait to see your opinion about who would win on all of these ultimate teams in a 7 game series
the all time lakers will win it
Having jimmy buckets, dragic and bam and especially Shaq is EXTREMELY underrated
I love these videos keep them up
This team is dangerous
miami forever
Nah its Zo. He was a good to great 1st option until 2000' and then after his injuries and near retirement in 2002 he came back and provided the most meaninful minutes of Heat basketball any player has played outside of Wade... His shot blocking numbers off the bench per 36 are jaw dropping.
Oh man I am LOVING this series. This team is stacked with on paper talent. Stacked! Insane!
BUT... I do see some spacing vulnerabilities and some lack of shooting compared to other teams.
They seem ever so slightly mismatched. The second unit is arguably insufficiently talented at the guard spots and insufficiently spaced out on the big men side. Playmaking is also lacking a bit in the second unit. Both the starting and backup pointguards are vulnerable defensively...
The whole video I was saying to myself ok Steve Smith has got to be next. Can't believe you left him off. But great video. PISTONS, CELTICS,maybe Bucks but Miami is top five in the east for sure
I LOVE this series.
Welcome to the Heat culture, the most successful expansion franchise of the professional big 4 sports, yeah, even the Vegas Golden Knights. Like Chicago, I feel this team having mostly defensive oriented players might hurt them when they really need to score, along with the fact that their 3-pointers are all on the bench, making Hardaway and Wade's offense predictable. Unlike Chicago though, I think Miami will have a deeper run in the postseason in spite of these flaws. Lebron, Shaq, Mourning, and Jimmy Butler are all 2-way versatile legends that can impact both sides of the court. Add in the fact that Lebron and Jimmy both have that dawg in them in critical moments, and this is a team that can make the conference finals if they get past Philly and/or Milwaukee to get a shot at Boston. However, 2005 Shaq was the only year for him that was really prime Shaq, and even then, he lost to the Pistons that year, so I would personally start Mourning over Shaq here, but I see where you're coming from. A similar case goes for me picking Rony Seikaly over Odom or Whiteside, but again, both of those two had good years in Miami.
But hey, those are just my thoughts. Keep up the good work, and now I'll see you for the Jazz. I'm not wrong now, right?
Yup u gotta start ZO over the Miami version of Shaq. Shaq in his best years in Miami was putting up 20 with avg defense and rebounding. ZO in his Miami days also averaged 20 but he was a much better defender than any version of Shaq and arguably a better rebounder also. so I'm definitely going with ZO
Definitely love this list.
Another powerhouse squad. Thank you. This team is fire 🔥
My all time team! 🔥. I love the list, out of respect I would’ve put UD in honorable mentions, just because of his 20 years with us.
It's honestly astonishing what the Heat have achieved as an 1988 expansion team until today when you compare it to the other expansion teams from the 80s and 90s: Mavericks, Hornets, Timberwolves, Magic, Grizzlies, Raptors. Most likely all of the success of the Heat is thanks to Pat Riley.
5:12 I believe the G and the C are pronounced the other way around :)
Ray Allen over Eddie Jones is criminal
Yeah, that is the part I am not too sure about. This is not prime Ray Allen. I would put Eddie Jones over that Ray Allen.
Over Lamar. Ray should be there even if he’s just a rotation player but Steve smith or Eddie jones should be over Lamar
@@faruquekhan3353yess Eddie Jones took them to playoffs twice as the main guy.
Ray Allen was passed his prime and more of an role player by then
Im glad you took my suggestion in doing a playoffs but you could have credited me with the idea
yeah keep these going ❗️
Ultimate Hornets in 4
An absolute lock. Lol
@@jonnyarnettregarding the Hornets, the original Hornets history actually belongs to the Bobcats/Hornets franchise of today, according to the 2014 agreement brokered by the NBA between the Pelicans and the then-known Bobcats
When this series is complete Imma make a "mock" season with these ultimate teams.
Wow. Gonna be a tough match up. Top 3 teams so far are Bulls, Celtics and Heat. Love this series.
As a Heat fan, I’m definitely here for this.
W Arnett as always🤝😼
Another great video but two small disagreements: I would take Miami Zo over Miami Shaq, for their peak/longevity combo. And I feel like itnwould be a better fit, even though the Diesel will not like to come off the bench. Also, I would take Herro or Jones over Whiteside, who had great stats but not great impact and is useless in a team with already 4 legit centers way better than him. Herro or Jones would provide scoring off the bench, which is lacking.
Definitely a big upgrade from yesterdays Charlotte Hornets team
Heat team be crazy. In general I'm also happy that Zo and the Glove got a ring in Miami.
I don''t know who to exclude and who to include but I believe you need one more guard, considering Allen was old that time.
I understand Shaq is Shaq, but Alonzo Mourning deserves the start over Shaq at Center.
I was thinking about that as well. Mourning was there longer and accomplished just as much and had his career not been interrupted then who knows what else he and the heat accomplish.
With that said, Shaq was almost still in peak shape, even an almost peak shape Shaq, still is better than prime mourning. The gap was just that big between Shaq and the rest of the bigs.
@@MJIZZELI just think the impact of zo defensivly would be much more beneficial than the impact that shaq would have on the offense. Plus shaq off the bench would be insane in terms of opposing teams having to game plan for assuming he would buy in.
@@joshuayoung7972I was thinking same thing plus don't need the ball much but he gonna be beast in the paint
But Shaq is Shaq
But I think for the team Alonzo being the starter would be better. We are getting prime Alonzo, not the one who is sick with heart condition, so him being in the starter would be better and if Shaq comes off the bench it would be a different scoring style as the first unit would be faster while the second unit will play more slower basketball with Shaq as more of an anchor.@@catherinelynnfraser2001
This squad is hot!
This team is stacked
Size and versatility make this team a nightmare. Stellar offense and defense. Multiple MVP and DPOY candidates. Crazy depth in the front court. And shot blockers galore on the court at all times.
When I think of Shaq, I tend to think Magic--Lakers--Heat in that order, although that doesn't exactly track with his accomplishments. If Shaq IS the starting center here, I'm taking Alonzo Mourning at PF even though I see him more as a Hornet. Tough one for me.
Omfg YES. I WAITED FOR THIS. I made my own all time heat list on fb a while back so this will be interesting
UPDATE: HOLY FREAKING WHOA WE HAD DAMN NEAR THE EXACT SAME LINE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE only difference we had was I had Gary Paryton as my back up PG, and bam was my C with Alonzo at PF
As a Heat fan, this was very cool to watch. Thank you, thank you, thank you... For calling Alonzo Morning, Zo. It's cringy for me as a big fan of Zo to hear people giving the same nick name to lonzo ball who career wise is lengths behind Zo.
I love your list but the last two are debatable. Lamar Odom should be a honorable mention, and Hassan Whiteside was our consolation during a dry era of rebuilding, but he was just a stats chaser. Instead of him, a clear #12 in the roster is Anthony Mason. You missed him in the honorable mentions. He along with Brian Grant, eddie jones and caron butler gave us a fun team, but he was the heart of the team and the best performer when the weight was on eddie and brian grant to deliver. #13 instead of Lamar Odom, I think it's debatable between eddie jones and Tyler herro. Herro is very young and still getting better, and if he was a knick, he would have been to the all star game already and espn would be giving him praises non stop. Other honorable mentions should be Antwan Walker and of course: Udonis Haslem!!! Culture!!! 😅
Shaq vs Zo is way harder than it seems. Both have an MVP runner up in Miami and Zo has a third place too, plus the two DPOYs. Could argue he fits way better with peak LeBron as well.
Nah man u gotta go with ZO because the Miami version of Shaq was averaging 20 points in 06 with avg defense and rebounding. ZO in his prime years as a HEAT also averaged 20 but he was definitely a better defender and rebounder than any version of Shaq let alone Miami Shaq.
No Eddie Jones but you got a old ray allen is crazy
EDDIE JONES over Hassan Whiteside no question, you need more shooting on this team anyway!
This Miami Heat team is definitely All-Time team favorites right up there with the Lakers & the Celtics!!
Nice video, spoiled it for me at the very end with Hassan Whiteside out of so many other honorable Miami Heat former players
This team is tough.😊
Awesome video, but it would be cool for each ultimate team to have their ultimate coach. For Miami, it’s Erik spoelstra.
I know this gone be good - "a nigga who ain't watch it yet" 😂😂😂
I'm that nigga 😂😂😂
As a heat fan I had to watch this lol
I'd have had Mourning over Heat Shaq in the starting position. Seikaly,Eddie Jones and Haslem could have been mentioned too. I always liked P.J. Brown and Voshon Lenard, 2 great defenders of that great 1997 squad. Mashburn, although not scoring as much as on the Hornets, was also nice. Payton also had his value,coming off the bench. Overall, one of the best teams in this series.
Team is crazy good
I run the all time Heat more than any other team in 2k. If we’re going by position LeBron played the 4 a lot so imo a better starting 5 would be Tim Wade Jimmy Bron and it gives you an open option for the center historically the Heat’s strongest position and putting LeBron at the 4 also sures up the Heats weakest position that being the 4.
Great squad here for my favorite team. But I would put Zo as the starter over Miami's version of Shaq.
Definitely ZO averaged 20 just like the version of Shaq in Miami but ZO was an elite defender and rebounder and better at both than any version of Shaq let alone Miami Shaq
This might be your best squad thus far. MIA & CHI are the most dominant so far.
Exactly
Wow! Very talented but also diverse group. Having peak Lebron with his hunger for winning championships + Jimmy’s playoffs mode would be insane.
Wade is my favorite player of all time and miami my fav team you knso i was tapped in.
Even though Udonis isnt a starstudded player like LeBron, Jimmy, Wade, or Bosh, he gave the team that mental edge needed to compete every night. He definitely shoupdve been an honorable mention
Still love the series
This team is stacked. I'd project this team as a 5 seed but I could see them finishing as high as the 3 seed. Clearly the Celtics are the 1 seed and the Bulls are the 2 seed. I see the Bucks and 76ers as the 3 and 4 seeds. But this Heat is very complete. It has lots of scoring, several good defenders, several good rebounders, and some great outside shooters. This team could actually reach the Eastern Conference Finals, they are complete, they have outstanding depth, and they have guys with the clutch gene. The only team this Heat team definitely couldn't beat in the Ultimate Team Eastern Conference playoffs is the Celtics. I see this team finishing between 3 and 5 during the regular season, making it to the Eastern Conference Finals, and losing to the Celtics there.
I never thought about it. Jimmy buckets will be in the all time 2k team
This team is nasty. Kind of reminds me of the all time Bulls. Legendary defense great shooting underrated big men with elite all time great forward and guards
Jonnyarnett, you not showing Steve Smith no love on the Hawks or the Heat I would definitely have Steve Smith in my rotation especially with this Heat team you could have Glen Dirty Rice along with Ray Allen and Steve Smith
NGL, I think this squad could go toe to toe with the best of the best
Nah Miami Shaq wasn't scoring close to 30 a game anymore and he wasn't a great defender or rebounder anymore
@@joel8692 23 pts / 10 boards / 2.3 blocks is still insane. Just because he was better as a laker doesn't mean he wasn't nice especially giving that he was in the mvp race. But with a prime Lebron and wade as teammates as well he would've been a matchup problem due to the fact that those two would demand so much defensive attention.
The way you set the Miami heat team, I would say this is the best fifteen players that can go deep into the playoff...
After this series is done, you should do another one where you match up the teams and sew who would win the championship
Heat definitely going to be a top 3 contender in the east.
I'm taking Whiteside off and putting Steve Smith up there you got Shaquille O'Neal Zo Bosh and Bam you good off the bigs hell Shane Battier would be a good fit also you got Lamar Odom in the there.
Jonny I gotta ask: I know we’re building the best team, but was consideration given to Haslem for his legacy with the Heat?
Great series Jonny, keep on making them! Of course Shaq is better overral (one of the GOATs), but I would put 99 DPOY and MVP runner up Zo Mourning in the 1st squad in front of 05 Shaq.
yup the Miami version of Shaq can't start over ZO who spent his prime years in Miami. Shaq in Miami in 06 was scoring 20 with avg defense and rebounding ZO also averaged 20 in Miami but he was an elite defender and rebounder and better than any version of Shaq at both those things. So yes I'll go with ZO
love it , i woudnt put lamar on ho bc only one season, and i wouldn’t put hassan bc there’s already 3 great bigs in front of him, id go with eddie jones so we have another ball handler he also was miami’s best player before Dwade
Definitely a top 5 all time team
This series is easily my favorite one :) As for this Heat team it is perfect with the exception of Lamar Odom. I would replace him with Mashburn, Seikaly, Herro, Haslem, Steve Smith ect.
Stoudemire , Lowry , Andre igoudala
Perhaps one of the 5 to 10 greatest squads
Awesome team.
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I like this team. If you wanna play big you can put lebron at the point and start butler at the 3, with bosh and shaq, or u can play small with bron at the 4 and start butler at the 3 with bosh at the 5 for spacing
this gonna be bad one if there arent at least 3 undrafted guys
UH shoulda been on there somewhere. He may not be great, but he's imo as much the face of the Heat as Wade since he played there his entire 20 yr career. This one of the best teams yet tho!
Naw we need allstar for this series not a mentor
So far I think the Chicago Bulls and Boston Celtics are still tied to be the ultimate team but this Miami Heat and Philadelphia 76ers are both a close second.
I’m waiting for the Laker team
Give me Steve Smith and bump Whiteside. Love the rest tho! Glen Rice baby!!!
The Heat's honorable mention squad would be a playoff team in the league right now. Pretty impressive for a team that's not even 35 years old.
UD for the culture
I clearly have Mourning on starting Center.
He was a MVP candidate late 90s too early 00s for that team made them relevant
I feel like Alonzo should start. Shaq had two good years in Miami compared to Alonzo's five, and in those five, Alonzo was arguably better: Alonzo (1995-96 to 1999-00) 21 pts, 10 rbs, 53.5% fg, 67.3% ft, 3.1 blks. Shaq (04-05 to 05-06) 21.6 pts, 9.9 rbs, 60.1% fg, 46.4% ft, 2.1 blks. Despite Shaq's higher fg% and the luxury of playing alongside D Wade, their TS% was the same (58%). Not to mention, Alonzo was a MUCH better defender.
Just meaning to the team...Spiritually.
No real Miami fan would ever have Shaq over ZO *EVER* I lowkey find it offensive
@@OpaqueNihilist I'm guessing you're too young to have witnessed Alonzo's prime. He WAS the Heat, he made them relevant. He is 2nd all-time in scoring for the Heat (behind D Wade), 1st in blocks (more than doubles 2nd place), and 2nd in rebounds (behind Udonis).
@@RVeredbro he's agreeing with you, read it again