Troubled Horse Transformation Pt. 3
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2024
- In this video I put the first ride on a horse that had some know behavioral issues like rearing, becoming very defensive, and nervous. I did ground work with him to prepare him for accepting the saddle and the bit as well as helping him get more comfortable with bringing his head down and accepting pressure.
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That tail swishing tells me you're sitting on bronc.
I'm very impressed and have learned a lot from your videos.
I,d dearly love too ,,but i have no digital money or bank account ,,,,im old and Truely off grid , am very lucky to have my two horses and still afford a phone and a window on the world,,,
And your vlogs give me a huge amount of pleasure ,,and great hope for the future of horse/human interaction,...
My mother , ,sister and daughter and myself could add our years of experience
To 201,,we did all go into different directions ,so our knowledge was diverse ,
But Mum was the real key to our sucess ,as she was the first lass to walk up a horse at newmarket races ,also worked chipperfields( britains premier horse circus ),and also worked long horn cattle in the out back of Australia ,in uk she would start a colt every year , to use in spring on her matriarch family of daughters ,,,she knew about dilute gene , so her foundation mare was black so by changing her stud she could breed many colors ,,also she could tame a colt in an hour or two from wild to haltered and feet picked up , she had picked up soo much knowledge that it seemed like magic , we were called witchs in the village because there was No name for horse whisperer,or any knowledge of the technics commonly used now ,,
But dare i say ,i have seen No one, on the vlogs do the job of training horses And humans as well as you ...God bless you and your work ,innumerable horses will be living better lives ,because of the connection you are teaching people to find with them ,,,,,🎶🐎🌄💞🐎
Thanks
If you don’t mind me asking , How much do you charge for what you did with that horse ? I have a similar problem with one of mine and would like to get into his issue further .
Hello love I'm from Florida this is truly amazing what they are doing ....
I do need a kinda big favor I just saved 2 mares from the auction in Texas and desperately need them trained I've wanted horses all my life I've saved millions of pittbulls and wanted to give these girls a chance
Thank you for showing him he doesn't have to be "on" and worry, so eventually he can relax. Same with my gelding. So many want them to just be okay and ride. The stress they must carry. Everyone tries to say it is pain, etc... sometimes it is just ground time and understanding. 😢
I feel like this was a rescue more than anything else. So glad you are being gentle and that the new human guardian is giving him a chance. Bravo!!!!
That horse will appreciate that great basic training, he’s a lucky fellow. Really enjoying these videos.
Thanks 👍
Kudos to his owner for getting you to reteach this horse
The horse looks depressed, not so much mistreated, but mishandled. This is going to take time.
This takes me back to the time, decades ago, when riding had little to no concern for the animal. It was about performance and 'making' them do what the rider wanted. I'm so glad to finally be able to see the shift in training.
Accolades to the owner for getting this lovely creature to you, and blessings to you and your wife for helping these lovely animals.
"Micromanaging" is the perfect description for this horse. Betting he has been stalled a lot and only "worked" when ridden. No trail riding or just chill rides. Then he gets a rider that isn't a drill Sargent and suddenly he has all this "freedom" and doesn't know how to act right. First video he looked bored and naughty while the owner was holding him. I always take my young horses out lots of hacks and even as adults they still get "fun" rides.
Ryan look at the horse stopped. Spread out then slips at right before 13 minutes. He may have some back troubles if he was a jumper. It was an odd stance
Your such a great teacher ,,too few people show the " boring " and very basic starting steps and expectations..
Every horse ive ever bought ,(,bearing in mind my family breed their own since 1958, )i simply start them as if they have not been touched , they are always missing some of the very basic stuff ,,the rest well its a refresher ,,but you want to find out whats " missing "before you ride them ,,and by starting again ,you get to know where they are at ,,and They get a little chance to learn Your language, Your aids, your temperament ,
That little extra effort will save you lots of time and hassle in future , 🎶🐴🌀💞and here is the man to show you ,,, 65 + years of horsemanship , and I give Ryan🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟6 out of 5,,hes just Soooo Good
Another long time rider/trainer concurs. I come from an "English" background and restarted OTT thoroughbreds as well as starting my homebreds. So nice to see a messed up horse being restored to a thinking horse. I wonder if this horse was ridden in a mechanical hackamore.
All that fussing with the bit would be understandable on a beginning horse, but he has been ridden with a bit for some time. He fusses even when there is no pressure on the reins. Some horses have very strong opinions about their bit. Two bits will look pretty much the same to us, but a horse will sometimes say yes to one and a definite no to the other.
For sure
@@tracyjohnson5023- Seems I may need to switch bits. Wife’s horse seems to tolerate her bit, but since fear sits in her car I have entire set of tack of my own. Last ride Cal was tossing his head, chewing on the bit and generally seemed annoyed with it. Both bits are snaffle with copper but mouthpiece on mine is thicker - which I thought should make it more comfortable. Oh well... bits are cheap.
@@finngamesknudson1457 check your horse for wolf teeth too.
@@tracyjohnson5023 - TY. I’ll do that.
That pulling is not caused by contact but by someone pulling and holding him. Riding on contract means having the shorter rein but with a constantly giving hand. You see a well-ridden horse on contact and the rider is always giving the release and the stays in self-carriage in the frame with the rider's seat and legs guiding the horse into the hand which doesn't need a loose, floppy rein to be giving. That said, what you are doing is correct. He was so triggered by any contact that he needs the longer rein with the rider asking him a give and then the rider gives. That's what happens much quicker when a horse is ridden correctly on contact. I've seen many forward-moving horses learn to shut down and protect their mouths when ridden by less secure riders who are afraid of forward. Then often start to rear.
It’s wonderful to watch you work with this handsome horse, Ryan. He seems to not be a fan of bits, maybe someday he can be ridden with a bitless bridle. I hope you show another progress video with him!
I noticed that as well.
I just don't understand the marriage to bits.
I know its about control, but my mare would just take the bit in her teeth & run. 😅
He is doing so well! I know he has a lot more work to do but seriously awesome progress.
Thank you
His ears are back more than normal and he still looks a bit feely in the mouth as if he needs dental attention. He is otherwise quite biddable if cautious. Im used to more forward going horses that are not as slow/cautious as him. Hes a bit weak behind the saddle too, but hes lovely if you can get his headpain/contact issues sorted. He wants to relax and enjoy himself but he wont relax until he spends more time consistently with a leader he can rely on.
the front end looks ok, the back end not every coordnated. He looks a bit like a horse with wobbles or a spinal injury. He seems very disjointed from front end to back end.
I thought his front end moves without the rear end in sync
Kinda thinking that too.
It’s amazing on how many people don’t know how to do a hind quarter yield, but instead, they pull on the reins to stop.
What a nice horse he is. Once he understands what’s expected of him he softens nicely.
His spooks are miss steps. His second spook , one his feet instead of placed flat, it folded under and he had to skip To get moving right again. I’d have his hips checked seems he’s in pain. 😊
I think Ryan’s got this under control. 🙄
I was kinda thinking the same thing. Something just doesn't seem right about his hind end.
This horse isn't spooking he is in pain and weak behind because of pain in his body. What you call spooking is him stumbling behind. Have a vet look at him.
This horse and his slow evolution fascinates me. Getting stuck to the point I feel myself want to reach through the screen and tug him loose, the kind of head shaking I have never had to deal with, those brief spooks, this beautiful guy has an interesting bag of tricks. Honestly, I can't wait to see what you get with a few more sessions. I know I wouldn't feel safe on him at this point. 😕
He's really progressing. Watching him, I get the feeling he is still anticipating things he experienced/came to expect when ridden before.
The head tossing does tell a part of his story, yet again it also tells a lot about former rider(s). I'm pleased he is being given the chance to show he can learn to relax and trust.
Not quite a colt start, but close enough. A "deep" restart. His eye looks just a little softer, you're on a good track.
You put the fingers into the wound, as we say in Germany, with your videos. Addressing typical mistakes.
That was a very nice first ride! I enjoyed watching you two. Nicely done!
Thank you
Such a great transformation already.
I ride dressage and hunter jumpers. Have the utmost respect for many of you western trainers-you guys know horses. One thing that does annoy me is blanket statements about riding with contact. I don’t know a single good dressage or hunter rider whose horse doesn’t completely relax on the buckle. We want them to stretch down while keeping a long stride with hind legs stepping fully under their bodies. I assume that since I attend many western training clinics that you have attended many dressage, etc. clinics and realize that all good trainers strive for the same things, especially during initial training. I enjoy watching your sessions. Thanks.
Yes but those are the GOOD hunter jumper riders with PROPER trainers.I am seeing too many riders using a lot of "gadgets" to make the horse do what a good rider would do using their legs. With the "gadgets" you get horses like this. I saw one girl had purchased a system of gadgets to make her horse bend and come under himself ( while she was riding him around and around) and she used it for 4 weeks and one day the horse quit on her. She asked why on Facebook and I said I thought the horse has muscle fatigue ( amongst other things) and she got mad at me! others agreed with me.( she DM's me later that I was correct.) It was a horse of the race track that only knew going forward. You can't jam them in equipment to force them on the bit and to bring their hind quarters under that quickly. They do not have those muscles developed. This guy is great! Who knows what was done with this horse. Many riders hang on the mouth and then get left and smack the horse's back in the middle of a jump over and over... I rode horses from the racetrack to be made into hunter/jumpers and for the first few months I did a lot of the work on the trails. This trainer has a much safer way. I am going to join his patreon channel. I do not think this will be a good owner/horse combination. This horse will need a soft touch and every time she gets nervous they will fall apart. You can't progress when frightened. The idea is to have fun for all our labors with our horses. There are too many horses better suited for her. Different people fit with different horses but it's a big mistake to force a relationship that will not work well. I bought a lovely horse that I just did not click with and sold him. He did not have "problems", we just were not a good match.
@@nancybernard4282 Just as bad western riders do the same?
I'm not familiar with what advanced western riders do. I think good basic training is the same whether western or english. After the basic stuff something happened with this horse either a bad rider or rider asking him to do what he physically could not do etc. @@ellenmadsen7308
So happy you continued this series - I’ve really enjoyed watching him progress and the various stages of training. Really like this horse and watching him overcome his issues. Love what you do and how you do it!
We love Ryan. The ultimate horse whisperer in the USA
I agree-he's really good
How this horse changed. Mind blowing.
Hi Ryan,love u,ur so kind and thought full to the horse but please can you keep your training videos on this horse so we can watch his progress,its fantastic to see the end result uk
Nice progression. I don't own a horse and it's been a good long while since I have ridden but I do enjoy watching.
He is a handsome boy and on his way to being a great horse! Thank you, Ryan
It is so funny, I subscribed to you several months ago for your shorts. And watching your long form videos they seemed strikingly similar to Parelli. Finally went to your bio and it all clicked 😂 I really like your style of moving a bit quicker to riding while also making sure they are understanding the correct cues on the ground first!
I would like to see you continue the training with this horse. Thanks for making these videos.
So nice to follow Spirit's progress. Thank You!
This was very informative, thank you. I have a friend with a very nice trail horse who doesn't understand bending. This will help. Also he is a gaited horse so was raised with mouth contact although she rides with a loose rein. I'm understanding more the reason he is so dependent. Luckily he has the typical gaited horse puppy-dog temperament!
Drives nuts! I've rehabbed many gaited horses and it's go back to basics. Many are ridden in straight lines, plow reined around to turn, they don't know how to back up either and all leg means is go! Lateral movement is a new concept to them. Many also don't stand still for mounting and are off to the gaiting races when your butt hits saddle lol.
OTTB are easier to rehab imo
Beautiful horse. Great to see him learn to be more confident.
Thank-you for always explaining and showing some of the basic things!
Your videos have helped me so much when backing my full Clydesdale gelding. Ive been trying to find out if you have to be in the U.S to be in your patreon? I'm in New Zealand. 😊
Excellent ! Thank you Ryan.
Looking great Ryan. It's wonderful watching this right now, I'm working with a gelding that has some of these same propensities or actually learned defenses. l'm
loving the step by step reminders. Thanks so much sharing with us all.
I really like the look of this horse. He really does just seem like he didn't understand what was being asked of him but I can see him starting to get it. I hope you do more videos with him; he's such a pretty horse and seems like he is able to learn.
What a beautiful horse! Your expertise with his training is sure making a huge difference. Well done!
Hard life in the past. Still looks like there may be some joint/ mobility concerns along with the anxiety from his past riding.
Definitely less reactive. I do think he is a good minded horse who was fortunate to meet someone willing to try their best for him.
Can't shake the feeling he's sore, though. Or has some sort of past injury contributing to the behavior.
Wonderful progress and amazing job to pin point his holes. I think you nailed it knowing this horse had issues with not only the issue with a sore mouth from the bit but complete contact and micro managed which then caused this beauty anxiety. I realize that the discipline they chose may require that but maybe the owner will rethink and decide to go western for this boy.
So glad to see his progress. I agree with your strategy. Even though it's good to see him come down to being slo-mo. it is easy to see he needs the clear baby step direction. he needs to learn to trust with time so he can release the sticky defense posture, and become happy again. Maybe his past experience he never got to enjoy. Lots of big athletic horses just get pushed and contained to perform.
This is really interesting. Thanks.
Lucky horse!❤
Yes!!!!
You are suppling him. Rhythm suppleness then connection are the first three ingredients in dressage.
I would check this horse's back to make sure there is no soreness. And you need a saddle with a wide channel so it sits on the muscle and not the spine.
Amazing
I love his metronome tail ❤
Great update!❤
Another great video.
Good stuff.
This is amazing
"the worst of them sense our fears and take advantage of us. The best of them sense our dreams and take us there..."
Well done Ryan, very good job
Thank ya Sir 😎
He’s progressing really well.
great video - please share more on this guy! thank you
Very interesting video thx for explaining what you're doing. He doesn't like the bit, would you try bitless? Maybe he ll be calmer with his head ❤
I hope that kids watching learn not to jerk on the reins and learn to really listen to horses. Thank you!
Just came across your channel, love your method. You are very knowledgeable and so humble, such a good combination. ❤Horses
Thank you for another great video. He's pretty. Like his socks.
He's coming along!! Did you mention what kind of bit you are using?
Would love to see more of this horse as he learns from you
He's making such great progress with you Ryan, and I love that he's beginning to realise you're someone worth listening to.
After being so shut down for a long time, really sensitive on the bit, and quite inflexible in the ribs he's going to benefit tremendously from your reassurance and intuitive touch. I can't wait to see how his story develops! There's such a lot of great information in these videos, please keep them coming!
(watching from the uk) 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for the videos!
I get what you're saying about teaching the horse to be calm when you're calm. However, I am wondering if you have to work at keeping your own cool. It's clear the horses pick up on your grounded and calm energy. We're you born that way? ☺
I ride English but so many do not seem to understand how to get off the horses face. Its why when I go looking for help or ways to train my horse I always go looking for western trainers.
Is this the latest of the videos of the big warmblood bay jumper? Really enjoying these.
is it me or is he really dragging his back feet?
great work, kinda wish this would work on my dog :X mine has issues with bad emotions around dogs. not sure what to do
Not an experienced horse person here, but this horse definitely looks like he needs a highly experienced owner. Like Ryan. Anyone else I think would end up getting hurt. Just my 2 cents.
He really is a tall guy!
U still have him
Question @ryanrose do you own your own tack or do you just mooch off your clients
Would like to ask a question? My gelding has navicular and wears a 2 degree shoe what is the best way to exercise him I have not road him much he needs a lot of ground work before riding also can't canner him do to bucking he's 12 years old
this is just a question. how would you like stop/teach a horse not to kick? or if u maybe have a video that would help?
What kind of bit are you using? It looks like an O ring snaffle? Or is it made for jumping?
I'm wondering, if he might have been ridden in a running martingale, since he was a jumper? He’s not used to having his head so free?
Does he have his inside leg on every time he's bending?
Can we have part 4,5,6,7,8?
👍🏽
He buckled under preasure not a spook😮
Stupid question, I noticd that you don't train with any sort of treats, is there a reason why? Thanks.
Right hind movement issue?
Can I ask you how I gat control win I ride my horse thank you Nanette
How do I have confidence win I ride my horse thank Nanette
There's something weird about how he travels through his back end. I've seen it in all three videos. Moreso on the left hind as though he's compensating. I wouldn't rule out back or hip issues.
Am I imagining it or miss the horse dragging his left rear hoof a bit! And at 13:09, it didn’t look like a spook to me, it looked like his left rear leg gave out under him a little and the horse recovers. Get an ortho & chiro exam & treatment
His hindquarters at the walk just doesn’t look right. When either hind leg extends behind him, it’s not smooth, like there is a little hitch.
I noticed this too. Wonder if the trainer saw it when he watched the video. Also, he seems to be irritated by the bit. 🤷🏻
This horse is tense and stif. That's why it looks that way, same with the bit. You see this a lot with horses that have been in a lot of competitions, this was a show jumper. I have a retired trotting horse and she was exactly the same, nothing wrong with her physically.
Wow my horse is like that. He has very sticky feet. I don’t keep him in contact anymore
This horse is a conundrum....he was jumping? He must have had a very pushy rider....so many things odd. His spook motion made me think something hurt. But I am not there seeing all that is going on. So stiff in moving....He may have sore spots just from having some new moves!?
His front half is a lot bigger than his back half. I'm not saying it affects his attitude but I wonder if that's why it's harder for him to move his backend.
This is actually a very well-balanced horse for dressage or jumping. The conformation is very different from typical quarter horse conformation. My horses built like him easily yield the quarters.
@@sandrawhisler1545I agree that he's extremely well balanced. He moves beautifully. Once he starts feeling safer and more comfortable and starts moving more freely, I can't wait to see how he moves then If we get to see it here. He's a beautiful horse.
He keeps messing with the bit. Like it is gagging him. Is that possible? Is the bit the wrong one? Maybe I’m wrong but look at the video and how he reacts with his mouth. I’m not a horse person per se, but seems a little strange, almost like he’s trying to spit it out.
Still seems very stiff in the hindquarters… a lot of muscle in the shoulders to…. Definitely not had enough lateral work to build those muscles in the past… very interesting horse overall!
Was any vet consulted to check for pain yet?
Some of these comments are just so insulting. If you were a better trainer, this horse owner would have called you to help.
This man is a professional. Do you actually think between he and the owner, they didn’t physically work this horse up? I agree, it’s very rude to ask these ridiculous questions as if it was never considered.
Never ever question God.@@Cwgrlup
I can't believe his owner managed to ride him and thought he was safe and perfect, was he drugged or something? He seems fairly new to absolutely everything, it's wild he somehow came across as well trained. I'm confused 😅 If he had come to me I wouldn't even be sure he was broke to ride properly yet.
The owner is a 5-year-old and can cover real horses when Ryan gets bucked off a stick horse.
The horses back hip and back leg thats white is weak . Almost like someone has hit that sude of the horse .. he limps of that back right white leg
Looks like it's in pain, what's the deal?
His hind quarters look so stiff and uneven- hoping he hasnt been injured.