@@dutchman7623 you make it sound much more awesome than it is. The ecoduct is a crossing for all wild animals so they won't get crushed by cars. This might sound even more epic, even though I believe it's a worldwide phenomenon.
So the residential bollards make the streets equivalent to American cul-de-sacs, but with a through route for bicycles and pedestrians. That's pretty brilliant.
The American system is deliberately built in a way that cuts those areas off for pedestrians and cyclists as well as cars, to force people to drive out of their neighbourhoods rather than take what would've been a 5 minute walk otherwise. Everyone should look up the insane shit that car companies in America pulled to ensure that everyone drives, from this kind of town planning to literally dismantling the vast majority of the american railway system.
Nah. It makes the **entire** neighbourhood like a cul-de-sac with a few strategic knips. Not only that, with connections between the neighbourhoods you effectively create an insanely cheap, dense active travel grid. Tho not really direct, but great for school, local shops, etc. Tho you can join them up in such a way to have direct main routes, and that is on top of arterial cycleways, and off-road main routes. More the better.
There's no excuse for the USA not implementing the type of safe road and pedestrian infrastructure in place in countries like the Netherlands. If Americans want to lead the world in terms of lifestyle they need to wake up. Ref: Montgomery, C. Happy City. Penguin 2013.
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@ But why would you want to cross Utrecht? There is a ring road around it. Driving through it when you have no need to be inside is entirely pointless. You don't seem to understand how traffic works.
I once drove behind a small van into such a zone not noticing there was a pole hidden in the road. So when I tried to get out of there, I discovered I was in car jail!. So I walked to the nearest van and asked how it worked. and he had an app to lower the different poles around the city center and just lowered the one next to me, so I could leave.
@@markr6273- Properly designed retractable bollards won't come up when a vehicle is above the retracted bollard. Bollards placed to protect restricted areas like government facilities may be different.
What's good about it is that it discourages most drivers but doesn't block people who need their car, like not only emergency services but also disabled people.
In the city of Leeuwarden, they use only camera's with numberplate registration which gives car's automatically a fine, while letting busses drive through without stopping
Same in Mechelen. I guess it's safer as you can't have people running into the obstacles and it makes money as you will always have people ignoring those signs.
I think that way is better, since there will always be a small number of cars that need to deliver something on-site while not having enough time to explain to the authorities. That way the driver can deliver the luggage first and explain later about the situation with their inner city customer so the authorities can decide whether to waiver the fine or not.
Nice, those systems fail 9 out of 10 times on my plate. I get the most random readings on my parking garage tickets too. It's a so called "model 18.2". All joking aside though, I have lived in Leeuwarden for a while, It's a really nice city.
I've used both of the last 2 examples :P. I really liked how the cyclepath on the underpass is much higher than the roadway, it makes a lot of sense. The time delay traffic lights are interesting, I've never seen those.
Makes it easier for the cyclist, as they don't have to climb out of such a deep valley. And cuts back on construction cost as a bonus! The time delay things are a rarity. Though I wonder if we're gonna see more of em in the municipalities' fight against Google maps..
As a taxi driver, I can say they lower the triangles as well. We have customers sometimes in those areas that are in wheelchairs or people who aren't that good in walking anymore. We try to avoid those poins as much as possible, because it takes a long time though.
as an uber driver i am very much more nice as a person and i don't complain as much as these cab drivers and we are cheaper too so please travel with uber because you don't deserve this old nagging all day long
@@badrouter501 why would i give a unprofessional Taxi driver and the big cooperation behind it while said cooperation is nothing more than a Taxi Service somehow gets granded more rights to exploit their drivers and customers.
With electric assist bicycles widely available there is now really no excuse whatsoever for a large number of cars in any civilised country. And a higher number of cyclists can be achieved by making driving more difficult and incentivising and encouraging cycling. A country will achieve the goals that it chooses to work toward. It can work in any country, with any landscape.
Blah b Promoting the use of bicycles benefits people that need to drive cars because of the distance to their work, like yourself. I don’t see why you would need to respond with such hostility?
It does seem like discriminating against motor traffic, particularly because this video focuses on the infrastructure build to convince motor traffic not to go there. But actually infrastructure for motor traffic in the Netherlands is within the top ten best of the world and driving here really is bliss. The point is just that we design our infrastructure in such a way that separates slow traffic from faster traffic for maximum safety and efficiency for both.
It is discriminating against people driving cars, but counter-intuitively, that actually HELPS people who drive cars. It means that it becomes less attractive to get the car to go somewhere, and more attractive to walk or bike, meaning less cars on the road, meaning traffic flows more easily. These roads are not for cars to go fast, they're there for cars to get where they need to go if they have to. The roads in the Netherlands are specifically designed for their respective purposes, just like arteries in a body. You have large separated freeways for throughflowing traffic, connecting roads that connect houses and businesses to the road network, and roads that serve an in-between purpose.
I’ve once driven trough Germany to Netherlands and the dutch higways were much better than the german autobahn. I’ve always thought that Germany, as a famous car country, would take good care of their roads, but dutch road were in much better condition and felt better planned.
@@alex2143 Agreed. I imagine that people who *need* cars, like people with disabilities, or like a friend of mine who can't ride the bus because of social anxiety/asperger, have an easier time because there's less competition for parking spaces and less lines, etc.
We had these rising bollards in Cambridge to shut off the entire city centre to all but buses, taxis, emergency vehicles and cyclists. But they turned them off a couple of years ago. They reckoned that the company had stopped making the transponders and newly registered taxis couldn't get them.
Oh. My. Vishnu. There are many parts of car-crazy Britain that we have come to expect to be the butt of jokes, but Cambridge is the one place (well, with Brighton and Oxford) that we had expected to reach the same level of civilization as the rest of northern Europe, frankly.
I think filtered permeability (I did not know the expression "rat-running") is among the most important measures cities, provinces, regions can take to reassign space to cycling and walking in an economic matter, preventing further asphalt being laid down and sending a clear message of changing priorities
I'd love to see these in north america, but I hear they would be too much of a "liability issue". Even with clear signs and warnings, if someone damaged their car (or worse injure them selves) on one they would sue the city. Even if they lost it would become a long drawn out legal battle, so cities don't want to bother. This situation is a reason why a lot of more progressive infrastructure is not seen in north america, or when it is implemented ends up costing 3x as much.
+Jarren Butterworth Has happened quite a few times actually. Your Aston doesn't need an ejector seat in the Netherlands. Those bollards popping up do the work for you.
+Jarren Butterworth That's exactly why many people think MURICA! is a strange place, why is it even possible to sue a city for your own stupidity ??!! Over here we say that if you damage your car, you shouldn't be so dumb to try to drive over that obstacle and YOU maybe have to pay the city for the damage YOU made !!!! In Amsterdam, we have taxi's/cars/bikes/trams/women walking with baby strollers and all of that next to a canal...... is there a fence ????? NO !!!!! we have a thing called "common sense" , like: hmmm there is a big hole in the street, should I step into it ? no, we just walk around it !
Even though I'm Dutch, I can easily think of one: "They didn't warn me adequately that there is a moving barrier in the ground that can come up while I'm trying to drive my car over it!" (The fact that there is a blinking yellow or constant-on red light next to the barrier indicating that you should not try to pass it, with a sign saying you can only cross it with a permit or anything get's ignored by the people sueing.
@@martijnvv8031- Back when spike heels were popular, women (this was before men started wearing them🙄) would snag a heel in a sidewalk grating, fall and sue the cities. So city councils passed ordinances forbidding the wearing of shoes that had heels small enough to go into a grate or vent hole in a manhole cover. The ordinances didn't have any penalty for violation. If a person sued the city over a stuck heel fall the judge would dismiss the suit based on the plaintiff being injured from violating the (directory) law.
@@martijnvv8031 It's pretty absurd. People were even sue happy even back in the american version of the dark ages, sometimes with murderous intent if the story of Salem is anything to go by
Those automatic bollards look like a good idea and probably should be used more often here in the UK. Makes it difficult for rat running / through traffic but allows emergency services, deliveries, taxis etc... to still enter for residents.
Oddly enough, no. Because rat-running is almost zero, there is little traffic in residential areas where there shouldn't be any at all. Since most drivers will now use only arterial roads, it discourages driving in city centres unless you have no choice but to drive there. Therefore less traffic and better journey time. There is also a safety aspect to it. Rat running is most common during peak hours, so drivers will use residential roads like highways in their frustration. This practice can put both pedestrians and cyclists (who are also trying to leave or return home) at risk of a high-speed crash in what should be a low-speed setting.
It seems unique to that location where horse riding is quite common. Here's a video about it when it was introduced in 2011, it was a safety measure. ruclips.net/video/U8ah28M0DGg/видео.html
Slow down? You mean like this? See: ruclips.net/video/bnX1JqglJ2E/видео.html Yes, so good there are no bicycle lanes here to slow down this ambulance. Imagine the horror of an actually bicycle lane be in the way as shown in the following video: ruclips.net/video/2VYE2i5Sw8M/видео.html
They are probably just outside of the camera's view, but there probably are steel barriers on the left to prevent you doing just that :P. They make them wide enough for vehicles for the handicapped to be able to clear these kind of obstructions, because sometimes the moving barriers are to close to each other for those things. Sometimes I also feel like city planners design these things the way they are to make people think they can pass them the way you mentioned (but actually can't :P).
Good Luck With That. I reckon you’d have to have a pretty narrow car, the one that is in the video is already a very narrow vehicle, and it’s too wide for the cycle lane.
Nah, it is too small, and indeed some street furniture (electricity "chests") makes you realise that. But more importantly: the curbes have been raised. If you'd try to drive over them, you'd at least ruin your rims. Here's the situation in streetview: goo.gl/maps/uAeyCoR6k6K2 If you want to see the difference in height, just turn around and look at the 2 different drains in the curbes: one to the right which is raised/higher, and one behind you in the sidestreet which is normal.
I know I’m hopelessly American because the image at 3:27 made me think “ok, two way car traffic, one narrow bike lane, what’s so exemplary about this?” *sigh*…
you would have to make a small detour to enter the neighbourhood. or street. Everything is still accessable, its just that some routes have been blocked to get rid of trough traffic
In England where a vehicle has to wait for a green light is called a tidal system. The first time I saw such a sign was on a bridge over the river Thames in London. I was confused because I didn't understand why the flow of the tide of the river Thames had any effect on the traffic. It was some time before I realised it meant the tide of the traffic in the morning (into the city) and evening tide (out of the city). Hahahaha.
In Breda is dit systeem verwijderd, omdat er teveel tegenaan gereden werdt. de kosten liepen op. u zijn er camaras, bij doorrijden krijg de houder van het voertuig een Pv van 120€
+Timothy Fish You show exactly the difference in mentality about traffic in The Netherlands and elsewhere. The purpose isn't making driving difficult, it's favoring public safety for others above car traffic.
Running the side streets rather than the main roads to get to destinations in other areas, thus the rat running part the side streets tend to be something of a maze.
LOL, I'm from Canada and spent a couple of months driving around Western Europe. Had no idea that such a ting as those popups even existed. One of the little buggers almost got me!
Its made so drunk or terrorist people cant drive other people over in the city, and its rarely used outside the cities (even though otherwise is implocated in this video)
I have never heard of rat running. Curious name, I wonder where it originates? Seeing these bollards reminded me of a similar invention which I came up with long ago. People like to drive through yellow lights here in the USA. So a long hump, essentially a pipe, begins raising as soon as the light turns yellow. At speeds of 25 or 30 going over one is uncomfortable. After getting thumped drivers will think twice about ever going through a yellow light again. Once the light is red the hump is at its apex. It begins to drop when the light turns green, but surmounting a hump at slow speeds is fine. An "unhumped" section allows bikes to pass (although they still must stop) at the margin nearest the curb. Of course in the Netherlands there is probably a dedicated bike lane anyway.
My old father once waited too long and the things came up and pushed his car up and he got stuck like that lolz. Maybe since then they monitor if a car actually passed by or not? 🤣
This is great but maybe the govt should increase throughput of larger roads as well as decreasing it on country roads. Not everywhere is reachable by public transport within an acceptable amount of time so a car is often still the most convenient solution. Yet there is a lot of congestion on many of the connecting arteries.
"Not everywhere is reachable by public transport within an acceptable amount of time" This is part of why that congestion happens. Also, because many people who could walk or bike to their destinations choose instead to drive, increasing the number of cars on the road. Any methods which could dis-incentivize people from choosing to drive when they don't need to will improve congestion, and that includes investing more in public transit and making it a desirable option.
Wow... Horses have to be on the streets? Not allowed on the cycle path here? I mean, they are slow, make no noise and do net smell bad like these annoying scooters you have on the cycle path... This horse signal, is it there because there is a farm or something like that near by?
+HelenaRG71 well yes of course. The cyclepath has not enough clearance to allow a horse and its rider to go under that viaduct. So if the rider doesn't want to hit his or her head they'd better use the road with a much bigger clearance! There are more of those horse rider push buttons. I've seen them near Hilversum as well.
It could be that a farm is near by, and the thing about height clearance is also true. Sometimes horses are redirected to regular roadways because they can not panic because of a cyclist passing by to close and quickly. If a horse does panic, it can not harm a cyclist by kicking it.
Don't you have mudskippers? (I'm totally unsure about the translation of the word "spatbord" of "spatlap"). Even though we tend to try and avoid dog or horse poo, we don't make a big fuss out of it if we are unable to. I'm more happy to drive through horse poo than through dog poo actually.
In the first example, they only block through traffic whos destination is not in the neighbourhood so vehicles can still get there via the main roads. Pedestrianised areas are different as you simply park nearby and walk if that is not possible it is worth noting that most European cities have park and ride schemes where you can park usually for free outside the city and get a free bus into the centre. When coming from another city with a park and ride facility conveniently located by the highway (which they usually are) this is probably worth doing too as city centre parking tends to be limited and often quite pricy as thriving neighbourhoods are prized over parking lots.
"Rat running" is the act of driving through residential areas instead of driving on the arterial roads in an attempt to avoid (rush hour) traffic jams.
We have 25km/h max (without helmet) and 45km/h max scooters with helmets. The slow ones are allowed most of the times on the same road as the cyclers, while the faster ones have to take the same as the cars (except 50km + roads)
Thats called ''Wegenbelasting'' and it's used to keep those roads of ours so good, you notice when you get out of the Netherlands instantly without a sign.. just by looking at the road
“Bollard” is the usual term for a post that blocks motor vehicles. A cylindrical bollard that has a hemispherical top is a “bullet design” bollard, “bullet shaped” bollard or “bullet” bollard.
You can't do this in the USA. Everybody pays for the Roads everyone is entitled to use them. If a road is closed off it is closed off to everyone. If it is open it is open to everyone..
I will be right back; gonna bulldoze all the houses at the end of all cul-de-sacs. AKA access is still maintained. Access is not the same thing as through-traffic-capable.
There's some discussion about how these can create safety hazards for cyclists, too. Yes, you can pass, but they aren't always as visible and it has been proven more cycling accidents happen without a car present, than with, and bollards are one of the reason. How do you prevent them?
In our district in the north of the Netherlands we had these too because cars tried to use them as well sometimes. But 1 of those bollards has seen 2 scooters and 6 bicycles being smashed against it in just 1 year. 1 injury was an elderly women who suffered a serious hip fracture. The rest were luckily unharmed. We removed it and replaced it with 2 big wooden crates on the sides with small trees in them and better white marking on the asphalt. So now it has a better visibility at night and during the day it retains its ability prevent cars from using it.
For now, it's mostly prevented by only using those when necessary. Ie, when some cars must be allowed at times, but not all the time. Whenever we can, we solve the problem with permanent obstacles or special junction designs.
What a bunch of BS. The money recovered from MV permits and licensing, gas and parts tax plus taxiaction on MV services is what pays for roads and it's repair. If it weren't for MV's, most roads would still be dirt. What do bikes pay?
Cyclists don't pay directly but I can give you some examples. Cyclists are healthier and therefore don't need the healthcare, they don't pollute, they rarely cause deathly accidents, need less space and the space they need is cheaper. It all adds up and saves a lot of money. Fun fact: did you know the cyclists is the only mode of transportation that earns more money for society than it costs to facilitate? €0.50 per kilometre in the city :)
Oh, dear. Most of the money that is spent on roads is from income tax, consumption taxes and so on, which everybody pays. Very little comes from registration payments or extra fuel levies. Motor vehicles require more road space, more parking space, more heavily engineered facilities, more expensive maintenance, more emergency services, more enforcement etc. These extra costs are rarely, if ever, met by the income from registration and licensing.
What a bunch of BS. MVs pay ALWAYS Much less taxies than the damage they create, MV-Roads are always alimented with state money... On the other side, Bicycles are so light, they never damage the streets... bike roads have to be built only once and maintained , because of aging, but not because of being destroyed by the heavy, fast MVs driving over them...
Mazda rx7 - Your comment is so ignorant it doesn't deserve a reply, but here goes: Sales and income taxes of people who don't have motor vehicles are used to subsidize the sorry sacks of crap who do use motor vehicles. Registration fees and fuel taxes don't even come close to covering the direct costs, let alone the many externalities, of car driving.
Very good for when the power goes out, also good for ripping out your transmission and axle when it malfunctions. But don't worry cyclists don't have to obey the traffic rules.
I've known these things all my life and I've never heard of any malfunctioning. Considering how you dispose of old dryers, perhaps we are more practically-inclined than you are ;)
Cyclists do have to obey traffic rules, actually. They even have some of their own (like lighting requirements). Not sure where you're getting this idea from.
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I love that the horse button is available for the horseback rider
In the UK, we have a special type of road crossing for horses and their riders. Its official name is a 'Pegasus crossing', which I love!
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In the Netherlands we have crossings for horses without riders...
They are called ecoduct.
David Richards What an awesome name
@@dutchman7623 you make it sound much more awesome than it is. The ecoduct is a crossing for all wild animals so they won't get crushed by cars. This might sound even more epic, even though I believe it's a worldwide phenomenon.
@@frenchdave69 That's a great name!
So the residential bollards make the streets equivalent to American cul-de-sacs, but with a through route for bicycles and pedestrians.
That's pretty brilliant.
Yeah that allows them to retain their walkability, instead of a maze of disconnected suburban neighborhood streets that all feed on to the same road
The American system is deliberately built in a way that cuts those areas off for pedestrians and cyclists as well as cars, to force people to drive out of their neighbourhoods rather than take what would've been a 5 minute walk otherwise. Everyone should look up the insane shit that car companies in America pulled to ensure that everyone drives, from this kind of town planning to literally dismantling the vast majority of the american railway system.
Nah. It makes the **entire** neighbourhood like a cul-de-sac with a few strategic knips. Not only that, with connections between the neighbourhoods you effectively create an insanely cheap, dense active travel grid. Tho not really direct, but great for school, local shops, etc. Tho you can join them up in such a way to have direct main routes, and that is on top of arterial cycleways, and off-road main routes. More the better.
I love this idea! The styling of the bollards, tho ... A little bit terminator/HAL, lol
There's no excuse for the USA not implementing the type of safe road and pedestrian infrastructure in place in countries like the Netherlands.
If Americans want to lead the world in terms of lifestyle they need to wake up.
Ref: Montgomery, C. Happy City. Penguin 2013.
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And I appreciate you for putting this knowledge into action.
@ Please back this up with reliable sources. I for one cannot believe this.
@ That's the idea; don't use a car to traverse the city.
@ it's not all about "further, faster"
@ But why would you want to cross Utrecht? There is a ring road around it. Driving through it when you have no need to be inside is entirely pointless. You don't seem to understand how traffic works.
I love bicycles, but I have to admit that the vintage Morris Minor made me smile.
+reelreeler Sometimes these come around once in a while. :)
And the button for horse riders. That thing is gold.
Meanwhile in the US, gated communities have cattle guard like road grates called bike barriers to detour bike and pedestrian traffic.
I mean yah theyre gated for a reason
Makes sense - cyclists and pedestrians are usualy hjust scum that makes mess.
thats the point of gated communities lmao
@@kibicz Wait till you see the mess motorist constantly make all over the country
Ew.
Fricking cyclist heaven, Nederland is. I wouldn't even consider myself a cyclist, and these videos make me so jealous.
No one considers themselves a cyclist, there is no such thing as a motorist or tranist or shipist either, people just use what is most conveniant.
I once drove behind a small van into such a zone not noticing there was a pole hidden in the road. So when I tried to get out of there, I discovered I was in car jail!. So I walked to the nearest van and asked how it worked. and he had an app to lower the different poles around the city center and just lowered the one next to me, so I could leave.
You were lucky, they can totally wreck your car as well when you're still above the thing when they come up.
Usually the entry is with a pass or app, but leaving is always available.
The sensors in the street notice from which side you are coming.
@@markr6273 Sometimes they allow entry outside shopping hours for delivery/utility etc and stay down
I once saw a group of students who wanted to ride around in the city center for fun and they held a table above the sensor and they were in.
@@markr6273- Properly designed retractable bollards won't come up when a vehicle is above the retracted bollard. Bollards placed to protect restricted areas like government facilities may be different.
What's good about it is that it discourages most drivers but doesn't block people who need their car, like not only emergency services but also disabled people.
In the city of Leeuwarden, they use only camera's with numberplate registration which gives car's automatically a fine, while letting busses drive through without stopping
Same in Mechelen. I guess it's safer as you can't have people running into the obstacles and it makes money as you will always have people ignoring those signs.
I think that way is better, since there will always be a small number of cars that need to deliver something on-site while not having enough time to explain to the authorities. That way the driver can deliver the luggage first and explain later about the situation with their inner city customer so the authorities can decide whether to waiver the fine or not.
Nice, those systems fail 9 out of 10 times on my plate. I get the most random readings on my parking garage tickets too. It's a so called "model 18.2".
All joking aside though, I have lived in Leeuwarden for a while, It's a really nice city.
Broeder shoutout naar jou ik ben fan.
@@TomPuttemans- Not many drivers will destroy a vehicle on a bollard more than once! Slow learners perhaps twice?
This shows that current traffic problems are of political, not technical nature. It's so sad that in almost any other country, this is just a dream.
I've used both of the last 2 examples :P. I really liked how the cyclepath on the underpass is much higher than the roadway, it makes a lot of sense.
The time delay traffic lights are interesting, I've never seen those.
Makes it easier for the cyclist, as they don't have to climb out of such a deep valley. And cuts back on construction cost as a bonus!
The time delay things are a rarity. Though I wonder if we're gonna see more of em in the municipalities' fight against Google maps..
As a taxi driver, I can say they lower the triangles as well. We have customers sometimes in those areas that are in wheelchairs or people who aren't that good in walking anymore. We try to avoid those poins as much as possible, because it takes a long time though.
as an uber driver i am very much more nice as a person and i don't complain as much as these cab drivers and we are cheaper too so please travel with uber because you don't deserve this old nagging all day long
@@badrouter501 why would i give a unprofessional Taxi driver and the big cooperation behind it while said cooperation is nothing more than a Taxi Service somehow gets granded more rights to exploit their drivers and customers.
I love the way the cars are treated with the contempt and hostility they deserve.
It's fine for Netherlands, which is fairly flat and a high number of cyclists. be very bad for hilly areas and low density of cyclists.
With electric assist bicycles widely available there is now really no excuse whatsoever for a large number of cars in any civilised country. And a higher number of cyclists can be achieved by making driving more difficult and incentivising and encouraging cycling. A country will achieve the goals that it chooses to work toward. It can work in any country, with any landscape.
it may not apply to all.. maybe for hilly areas, we can think of something else better..
@ are you dumb or ignorant?
Blah b Promoting the use of bicycles benefits people that need to drive cars because of the distance to their work, like yourself. I don’t see why you would need to respond with such hostility?
That's totally discriminating people driving cars! ... I love it :D
It does seem like discriminating against motor traffic, particularly because this video focuses on the infrastructure build to convince motor traffic not to go there. But actually infrastructure for motor traffic in the Netherlands is within the top ten best of the world and driving here really is bliss. The point is just that we design our infrastructure in such a way that separates slow traffic from faster traffic for maximum safety and efficiency for both.
It is discriminating against people driving cars, but counter-intuitively, that actually HELPS people who drive cars. It means that it becomes less attractive to get the car to go somewhere, and more attractive to walk or bike, meaning less cars on the road, meaning traffic flows more easily. These roads are not for cars to go fast, they're there for cars to get where they need to go if they have to.
The roads in the Netherlands are specifically designed for their respective purposes, just like arteries in a body. You have large separated freeways for throughflowing traffic, connecting roads that connect houses and businesses to the road network, and roads that serve an in-between purpose.
I’ve once driven trough Germany to Netherlands and the dutch higways were much better than the german autobahn. I’ve always thought that Germany, as a famous car country, would take good care of their roads, but dutch road were in much better condition and felt better planned.
@@tepetti thats because car owners pay a tax called '' wegenbelasting '' which basically means '' road taxing ''
@@alex2143 Agreed. I imagine that people who *need* cars, like people with disabilities, or like a friend of mine who can't ride the bus because of social anxiety/asperger, have an easier time because there's less competition for parking spaces and less lines, etc.
One of the few countries moving in the right direction.
big ups to the morris driver.
We had these rising bollards in Cambridge to shut off the entire city centre to all but buses, taxis, emergency vehicles and cyclists. But they turned them off a couple of years ago. They reckoned that the company had stopped making the transponders and newly registered taxis couldn't get them.
Oh. My. Vishnu.
There are many parts of car-crazy Britain that we have come to expect to be the butt of jokes, but Cambridge is the one place (well, with Brighton and Oxford) that we had expected to reach the same level of civilization as the rest of northern Europe, frankly.
I think filtered permeability (I did not know the expression "rat-running") is among the most important measures cities, provinces, regions can take to reassign space to cycling and walking in an economic matter, preventing further asphalt being laid down and sending a clear message of changing priorities
I'd love to see these in north america, but I hear they would be too much of a "liability issue". Even with clear signs and warnings, if someone damaged their car (or worse injure them selves) on one they would sue the city. Even if they lost it would become a long drawn out legal battle, so cities don't want to bother. This situation is a reason why a lot of more progressive infrastructure is not seen in north america, or when it is implemented ends up costing 3x as much.
+Jarren Butterworth Has happened quite a few times actually. Your Aston doesn't need an ejector seat in the Netherlands. Those bollards popping up do the work for you.
+Jarren Butterworth That's exactly why many people think MURICA! is a strange place, why is it even possible to sue a city for your own stupidity ??!!
Over here we say that if you damage your car, you shouldn't be so dumb to try to drive over that obstacle and YOU maybe have to pay the city for the damage YOU made !!!!
In Amsterdam, we have taxi's/cars/bikes/trams/women walking with baby strollers and all of that next to a canal...... is there a fence ????? NO !!!!! we have a thing called "common sense" , like: hmmm there is a big hole in the street, should I step into it ? no, we just walk around it !
Even though I'm Dutch, I can easily think of one: "They didn't warn me adequately that there is a moving barrier in the ground that can come up while I'm trying to drive my car over it!" (The fact that there is a blinking yellow or constant-on red light next to the barrier indicating that you should not try to pass it, with a sign saying you can only cross it with a permit or anything get's ignored by the people sueing.
@@martijnvv8031- Back when spike heels were popular, women (this was before men started wearing them🙄) would snag a heel in a sidewalk grating, fall and sue the cities. So city councils passed ordinances forbidding the wearing of shoes that had heels small enough to go into a grate or vent hole in a manhole cover. The ordinances didn't have any penalty for violation. If a person sued the city over a stuck heel fall the judge would dismiss the suit based on the plaintiff being injured from violating the (directory) law.
@@martijnvv8031 It's pretty absurd. People were even sue happy even back in the american version of the dark ages, sometimes with murderous intent if the story of Salem is anything to go by
Those automatic bollards look like a good idea and probably should be used more often here in the UK. Makes it difficult for rat running / through traffic but allows emergency services, deliveries, taxis etc... to still enter for residents.
As a motorcycle rider, I have zero problem with this! :D
You'll get your automatic fine in the mail...
You will have zero problem as long as you stay out of the bicycle zones...
Your wallet paying the fines will hate you for it though
Unfortunately this can't be done in south east asia where most people use scooter lol :/
Yet again, another great video!
and i thought the horse rider is just a joke.. haha
Nope
Rat runners are the scum of the earth.
Does this make it take absolutely forever to get places?
Oddly enough, no. Because rat-running is almost zero, there is little traffic in residential areas where there shouldn't be any at all. Since most drivers will now use only arterial roads, it discourages driving in city centres unless you have no choice but to drive there. Therefore less traffic and better journey time.
There is also a safety aspect to it. Rat running is most common during peak hours, so drivers will use residential roads like highways in their frustration. This practice can put both pedestrians and cyclists (who are also trying to leave or return home) at risk of a high-speed crash in what should be a low-speed setting.
@@brianocampo7981 Oh, you have full size roads? Yeah, we're doing it wrong then. Thought all your roads are like that....
Wtf is this shit... here in germany i go at least 80km/h until im 50m away from my driveway.... -.-
Microage - they also want to slow down tanks. They had a bad experience with them.
Why is there a button for horse riders hahaha I thought it was an elaborate joke
How else would a horse rider cross??
I mean do people in the Netherlands really move around on horses?
It seems unique to that location where horse riding is quite common.
Here's a video about it when it was introduced in 2011, it was a safety measure.
ruclips.net/video/U8ah28M0DGg/видео.html
Mostly recreative horse riding, so riding and caring for a horse as a hobby. Basically the same as people who ride a motorcycle as a hobby.
@EnigmaDrath There are many horses here. Far more than some people know.
In Zwolle they have a camera that checks if you are a resident or not. All other people that still drive on, get a fine.
This is brilliant
Seems like the barriers would slow down emergency response times.
Slow down? You mean like this? See:
ruclips.net/video/bnX1JqglJ2E/видео.html
Yes, so good there are no bicycle lanes here to slow down this ambulance. Imagine the horror of an actually bicycle lane be in the way as shown in the following video:
ruclips.net/video/2VYE2i5Sw8M/видео.html
@@wimahlers Thank you, your comment actually persuaded me on that
@@wimahlers Wow that's a great pair of videos totally changed my perspective thanks,
Rat running? So taking a shortcut? Lol
I admit I opened the video just to learn what "rat running" was :p
1:23 I don't want to be that guy, but that cycling-passage on the left of the screen seems more than wide enough to fit a car through...
They are probably just outside of the camera's view, but there probably are steel barriers on the left to prevent you doing just that :P. They make them wide enough for vehicles for the handicapped to be able to clear these kind of obstructions, because sometimes the moving barriers are to close to each other for those things. Sometimes I also feel like city planners design these things the way they are to make people think they can pass them the way you mentioned (but actually can't :P).
Good Luck With That. I reckon you’d have to have a pretty narrow car, the one that is in the video is already a very narrow vehicle, and it’s too wide for the cycle lane.
Nah, it is too small, and indeed some street furniture (electricity "chests") makes you realise that. But more importantly: the curbes have been raised. If you'd try to drive over them, you'd at least ruin your rims. Here's the situation in streetview: goo.gl/maps/uAeyCoR6k6K2 If you want to see the difference in height, just turn around and look at the 2 different drains in the curbes: one to the right which is raised/higher, and one behind you in the sidestreet which is normal.
1:02 interesant
I know I’m hopelessly American because the image at 3:27 made me think “ok, two way car traffic, one narrow bike lane, what’s so exemplary about this?” *sigh*…
1:35 Wouldn't it be dangerous if the cyclist didn't know those blockages would be rising again, and biked over them?
Ik hou van HOLLAND 🇳🇱 I Love HOLLAND ♥️
How are those cars handled that occasionally visit the place from another town (and thus do not have a special pass)?
you would have to make a small detour to enter the neighbourhood. or street. Everything is still accessable, its just that some routes have been blocked to get rid of trough traffic
In England where a vehicle has to wait for a green light is called a tidal system. The first time I saw such a sign was on a bridge over the river Thames in London. I was confused because I didn't understand why the flow of the tide of the river Thames had any effect on the traffic. It was some time before I realised it meant the tide of the traffic in the morning (into the city) and evening tide (out of the city). Hahahaha.
3:35 First car detected gets a green light.... Not true!! There were at least 2 cars built prior to this latest Dutch model.
+drie wiel The Lame Joke Appreciation Society would like to inform you that you are ahead in the votes for the Seth Gaaikema Award 2015.
+P1nkR Hurray! Maybe I will win?!
In Breda is dit systeem verwijderd, omdat er teveel tegenaan gereden werdt. de kosten liepen op. u zijn er camaras, bij doorrijden krijg de houder van het voertuig een Pv van 120€
3:55 Angela Merkel checking out superior infrastructure
Wow! You guys are serious about making driving difficult.
+Timothy Fish
You show exactly the difference in mentality about traffic in The Netherlands and elsewhere. The purpose isn't making driving difficult, it's favoring public safety for others above car traffic.
So you wanna trade easy travelling for safety? that is very clever.
brozius Making traveling more difficult doesn't always translate into more safety. And safety doesn't require that traveling be more difficult.
Timothy Fish So that means we did it all te time wrong in the Netherlands? Hmm very strange, the facts say different.
brozius I believe you are confusing facts with opinions.
"Rat-running" - bizarre, confusing expression. (:-( 1:00 interesting electronically retracting bollards for bus, permitted residents.
Ok but what's rat running?
Running the side streets rather than the main roads to get to destinations in other areas, thus the rat running part the side streets tend to be something of a maze.
excellent idea. now lets do this for people inNYC
LOL, I'm from Canada and spent a couple of months driving around Western Europe. Had no idea that such a ting as those popups even existed. One of the little buggers almost got me!
But motorcycles can still pass the barriers
Its made so drunk or terrorist people cant drive other people over in the city, and its rarely used outside the cities (even though otherwise is implocated in this video)
As intended.
'On the effing shoulders'? 0:44
lmao, love this interpretation
I have never heard of rat running. Curious name, I wonder where it originates? Seeing these bollards reminded me of a similar invention which I came up with long ago. People like to drive through yellow lights here in the USA. So a long hump, essentially a pipe, begins raising as soon as the light turns yellow. At speeds of 25 or 30 going over one is uncomfortable. After getting thumped drivers will think twice about ever going through a yellow light again. Once the light is red the hump is at its apex. It begins to drop when the light turns green, but surmounting a hump at slow speeds is fine. An "unhumped" section allows bikes to pass (although they still must stop) at the margin nearest the curb. Of course in the Netherlands there is probably a dedicated bike lane anyway.
2:33 Heyy dats nieuwegein hahaha
These are the roads of the future. Built around collective transportation and bicycles, while it's the cars that have to contend with obstacles.
*in neighbourhoods.
My old father once waited too long and the things came up and pushed his car up and he got stuck like that lolz. Maybe since then they monitor if a car actually passed by or not? 🤣
poor horse
Who else was expecting the bollards to pop up under the cyclist at @1:36?
lolz
i guess you don't get enough snow to cover them, or ice to jam them. dont think this would work in ottawa
This is great but maybe the govt should increase throughput of larger roads as well as decreasing it on country roads. Not everywhere is reachable by public transport within an acceptable amount of time so a car is often still the most convenient solution. Yet there is a lot of congestion on many of the connecting arteries.
"Not everywhere is reachable by public transport within an acceptable amount of time"
This is part of why that congestion happens. Also, because many people who could walk or bike to their destinations choose instead to drive, increasing the number of cars on the road. Any methods which could dis-incentivize people from choosing to drive when they don't need to will improve congestion, and that includes investing more in public transit and making it a desirable option.
Electrical is good as long as there's a functioning energy source.
3:56 Angela Merkel in red, riding a bike.
🤣
Glad they route the horses with the vehicles, not the bikes!
Wow... Horses have to be on the streets? Not allowed on the cycle path here? I mean, they are slow, make no noise and do net smell bad like these annoying scooters you have on the cycle path... This horse signal, is it there because there is a farm or something like that near by?
+HelenaRG71 well yes of course. The cyclepath has not enough clearance to allow a horse and its rider to go under that viaduct. So if the rider doesn't want to hit his or her head they'd better use the road with a much bigger clearance! There are more of those horse rider push buttons. I've seen them near Hilversum as well.
It could be that a farm is near by, and the thing about height clearance is also true. Sometimes horses are redirected to regular roadways because they can not panic because of a cyclist passing by to close and quickly. If a horse does panic, it can not harm a cyclist by kicking it.
Don't you have mudskippers? (I'm totally unsure about the translation of the word "spatbord" of "spatlap"). Even though we tend to try and avoid dog or horse poo, we don't make a big fuss out of it if we are unable to. I'm more happy to drive through horse poo than through dog poo actually.
+Dutch3DMaster horses panic more from cars then cyclists to be honest.
Horses are too slow for the bicycle path. But they are slow enough to be an extra deterrent to drivers. ;)
One day I hope the US could safely have these.
Why am I watching this?
He has a German accent.
In the "developed" cities, such solutions would be considered too expensive
I hate this and especially the one at 2:30
How about plumbers etc that may need to get to residential areas but not live there? Do they also get a pass?
It's a 500m drive around... so meh
SMALL IS BEAUTIFUL.
Ha that is just brilliant!
so how would a friend come to visit you from another city?
In the first example, they only block through traffic whos destination is not in the neighbourhood so vehicles can still get there via the main roads. Pedestrianised areas are different as you simply park nearby and walk if that is not possible it is worth noting that most European cities have park and ride schemes where you can park usually for free outside the city and get a free bus into the centre. When coming from another city with a park and ride facility conveniently located by the highway (which they usually are) this is probably worth doing too as city centre parking tends to be limited and often quite pricy as thriving neighbourhoods are prized over parking lots.
So what exactly is rat running?
"Rat running" is the act of driving through residential areas instead of driving on the arterial roads in an attempt to avoid (rush hour) traffic jams.
The bollards seem to have a delay before rising again. What prevents another car from going through?
You wanna take the risk and destroy your car, well good luck with that.
You can try, but if you get it wrong, the bollard wins.
ruclips.net/video/IELpd43PMvk/видео.html
what about motorcycles? scooters? can a motorcycle/scooter go on a cycling lane if they're slow enough?
We have 25km/h max (without helmet) and 45km/h max scooters with helmets. The slow ones are allowed most of the times on the same road as the cyclers, while the faster ones have to take the same as the cars (except 50km + roads)
Local regulations apply, but as a general rule, anything as narrow as a bicycle and with a speed limit of 25 kph can use the cycling lane.
Only 50cc bikes limited to 50kph or 25kph depending on the type can go on cycling lanes.
1:35 You almost had captured a stupid bicycle accident there...
Sne knew it was there...
they had these at ut austin texas and people kept crashing into them our getting stuck on top. so they added swing arms with led lights
i would sniff the code from some police car when it's using one of these barriers.
Where is the last underpass?
+Andre Lot goo.gl/maps/fDXNcL8XXQz
This is so brilliant
#UNAgenda21
The true irony is that this is mostly paid for by taxing car ownership.
Thats called ''Wegenbelasting'' and it's used to keep those roads of ours so good, you notice when you get out of the Netherlands instantly without a sign.. just by looking at the road
Imagine riding your bike behind a car and some things just popping out of the ground followed by you crashing.
Holzwurm _HD trust me this person won’t do it the next time. They learn from there mistakes.
Luckely it didn't pass in Belgium this car blocking bullshit
So... do the dutch ban motorcycles or has nobody figured out thats far superior to both of these options?
Superior in noise, sure. But yeah, the bollards don’t stop them, and the same goes for scooters.
i thought rat running meant when a rat crossing the road is flattened by a vehicle
Ve must have order!!
I saw that 2 lane red pavement, was amazed when it was the bike way and motorists has only one lane! So satisfying!
Madness
Nice and flat ground, no problems.
“Bollard” is the usual term for a post that blocks motor vehicles.
A cylindrical bollard that has a hemispherical top is a “bullet design” bollard, “bullet shaped” bollard or “bullet” bollard.
You can't do this in the USA. Everybody pays for the Roads everyone is entitled to use them. If a road is closed off it is closed off to everyone. If it is open it is open to everyone..
I will be right back; gonna bulldoze all the houses at the end of all cul-de-sacs.
AKA access is still maintained. Access is not the same thing as through-traffic-capable.
There's some discussion about how these can create safety hazards for cyclists, too. Yes, you can pass, but they aren't always as visible and it has been proven more cycling accidents happen without a car present, than with, and bollards are one of the reason. How do you prevent them?
In our district in the north of the Netherlands we had these too because cars tried to use them as well sometimes. But 1 of those bollards has seen 2 scooters and 6 bicycles being smashed against it in just 1 year. 1 injury was an elderly women who suffered a serious hip fracture. The rest were luckily unharmed.
We removed it and replaced it with 2 big wooden crates on the sides with small trees in them and better white marking on the asphalt. So now it has a better visibility at night and during the day it retains its ability prevent cars from using it.
For now, it's mostly prevented by only using those when necessary. Ie, when some cars must be allowed at times, but not all the time. Whenever we can, we solve the problem with permanent obstacles or special junction designs.
First time in a while I've been glad to be in the US.
What a bunch of BS. The money recovered from MV permits and licensing, gas and parts tax plus taxiaction on MV services is what pays for roads and it's repair. If it weren't for MV's, most roads would still be dirt. What do bikes pay?
Cyclists don't pay directly but I can give you some examples. Cyclists are healthier and therefore don't need the healthcare, they don't pollute, they rarely cause deathly accidents, need less space and the space they need is cheaper. It all adds up and saves a lot of money.
Fun fact: did you know the cyclists is the only mode of transportation that earns more money for society than it costs to facilitate? €0.50 per kilometre in the city :)
Oh, dear. Most of the money that is spent on roads is from income tax, consumption taxes and so on, which everybody pays. Very little comes from registration payments or extra fuel levies.
Motor vehicles require more road space, more parking space, more heavily engineered facilities, more expensive maintenance, more emergency services, more enforcement etc. These extra costs are rarely, if ever, met by the income from registration and licensing.
LOL!! Now THAT it a bunch of BS
What a bunch of BS. MVs pay ALWAYS Much less taxies than the damage they create, MV-Roads are always alimented with state money... On the other side, Bicycles are so light, they never damage the streets... bike roads have to be built only once and maintained , because of aging, but not because of being destroyed by the heavy, fast MVs driving over them...
Mazda rx7 -
Your comment is so ignorant it doesn't deserve a reply, but here goes: Sales and income taxes of people who don't have motor vehicles are used to subsidize the sorry sacks of crap who do use motor vehicles. Registration fees and fuel taxes don't even come close to covering the direct costs, let alone the many externalities, of car driving.
Very good for when the power goes out, also good for ripping out your transmission and axle when it malfunctions. But don't worry cyclists don't have to obey the traffic rules.
Legend Cox Most of them are solar powered and have their own batteries. And there are checks done every so often.
They don't malfunction
Cyclists didn't make the problems and hazards that traffic rules exist to prevent.
I've known these things all my life and I've never heard of any malfunctioning. Considering how you dispose of old dryers, perhaps we are more practically-inclined than you are ;)
Cyclists do have to obey traffic rules, actually. They even have some of their own (like lighting requirements). Not sure where you're getting this idea from.