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Dude thanks so much for making and comprehensive guides. I was always super casual in T7 and I'm really into T8, just playing ranked off and on and playing with some friends in the local scene here in my city. My Raven has gotten so much better because of you, and now that I can finally wavedash in a real game thanks to this video, it feels like the cherry on top to better learn the game and fundamentals every day. Keep on doing amazing stuff man!
You have no idea how important your Raven content is to me. I've always wanted to check out the character & Tekken 8 was the perfect opportunity. Thank you for your content!
OH MY GOD, I literally just asked about this in your previous video when you talk about how to do it on hitbox because I'm using pad and arcade stick interchangeably. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAN. APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL. GOD BLESS U, MY FRIEND.
Ravens, if you’re still having issues with this tech you can also change your right analog to left analog. This allows you to sidestep cancel your wavedash by flicking up on the right analog then continue your wavedash. Dash, flick, dash, flick etc…
Omgg I was practicing the double ff3 into the qcf1,2 for like 3 hours and I only hit it like twice and I was so confusedd. The content came thru!! I needed this😂😂
I still can’t get it but imma keep practicing it. Please keep up the good work I’m maining raven and I’d love to have a go to for info and play style knowledge
You know, i was watching some Pinya, GoAttack and JDCR Raven gameplay, and i think they all went for the easier combo variant (using soulzone 3 for tornado). Perhaps they havent just havent practiced enough for the optimal combo yet but i thought that was interesting.
This is super interesting and a very important video imo. I've always found Raven to be easier played on pad, but I can't play my other mains like Yoshi and Eddie on pad at all. I have to plug in my stick between games when I play with friends 😂
Damn i know ive asked you how to wd before with raven when you had the master raven tutorial years back. I still cant do it haha, but thats on me, seeing the controller in action is super helpful man. Gon try it again! Thanks!
I was trying to find a main in Tekken 8 as it is my first Tekken. Tried out 10 characters and narrowed it down to either Jun or Raven. I couldn't decide on either, so I just made their CPUs fight for the spot. The CPU Raven won the FT3 so now Im a Raven main.
This is really helpful! but I'm having trouble after the initial crouch step. I do what you say in the video and return to neutral quickly and do d,df but i just kind of crouch there. Maybe the timing is very strict idk what I'm doing wrong. But thanks for these videos they've been a big help with me learning tekken/raven as a new player.
Been playing tekken on pad since 7, and currently is playing raven on pad. The combos on pad aint too hard. But i do occasionally drop them during matches, or forget my combos. The wave dash is very helpful. Howver i prefer using analog rather than Dpad.
does the QCF1,2 have to be frame perfect? everytime i practice it i either get jabs or the QCF1,2 comes out and tornadoes them but it counts a pickup, not part of the combo
Nice. That's how I do it. I learned it very late in tekken 7. But I'm no master at it. I'm still working to refine it better. But I'd love video on what's the best way to play him. Here is an example: Should we be up close with strings, should we use 50/50 mix ups a lot, should we use more of a defensive poke oriented play style? Or try and and play keep out? What play style is this version of Raven best at? A video explanation on this topic from you would be extremely good.
Expert tutorial! I learned a lot from this and I use your videos as guides on how to play Raven. When are you streaming on Twitch? Looking forward to it 😄
Definetly need this. Ty very much for this. I have a question. How do you get wr/full crouch moves out of a crouch step? I am having trouble trying to mix between his qcf, wr and full crouch moves. It's not giving me what i want consistently. Hope you can help. Love the video
Great! This is a really informative video. Please, can you also do this for fight stick as well? I've been playing Master Raven and now Raven in T8 and one of the things I struggled with was being about to do this consistently. I always looked at Maven players who did this with envy. It would be deeply appreciated if you could!
Hey! I love your raven content! I use both mixbox and stick and I'm making the same mistakes for the qcf+1,2 after the 3rd f,f+3 combo on both controllers. It feels like more of a timing issue so maybe you could elaborate more on that aspect? I also just watched a mirror match between Pinya and Go_Attack and one (or both?) of them would sometimes drop this combo too and eventually just resorted to the simpler variations. The timing seems very specific because if you do it too fast, the jab comes out and if too slow, they can tech roll and the window for it seems strict.
yeah it’s pretty strict to be honest but the timing is just after ff3 recovery and cannot be buffered. It’s just a matter of inputting qcf12 quickly after it
Would you to do a tutorial for Nina’s butterfly loop on DPad like this too? I play both Nina and Raven so thanks for this video and all videos concerning Raven!
BIG question for ya. How do you know when you've canceled the crouch dash? I wanna use it to mix in full crouch buttons, and while rising stuff and atm i cant control what in getting.
it looks better, i also think the command history is confusing and there’s no colour to the buttons. It’s better to see what i’m doing visually. I did this in tekken 7 with no hand cam and command history on and it didn’t help… so im switching it up
Hey I need some advice. I’m pretty new to fighting games and never played a tekken game before. I think I wanna main either raven or devil Jin. I have an arcade stick from street fighter as well as a ps5 controller. I’m wondering what should I learn tekken with? Is pad better for certain characters? Thanks
Did they patch the wave dash? Cuz my inputs are literally perfect d df n d df n d df n yet it comes out slow af. I can see the inputs on my screen perfect I don’t get it
@@lilalvi10 yea that’s a crouch step, you need to chain crouch step not crouch dash! As said in the video you need to find the point on the dpad that allows you do go from d df n and repeat
This is way harder than mishima wavedash and even bryan "wavedash" and if you do it fast it barely moves. Is this actually important to use or just for flexxing?
What I'm personally missing/having trouble with is that a lot of the resources list so many things for raven that it's hard to have a good overview. Something like showing the most important launcher combos and their easier variations and talking about when to maybe change them up to get wall carry etc and what one gets from carrying people to the wall. And i also think for the longer videos maybe having a quick summary graphic or just a normal summary helps a lot since there's a ton of information that most new players just can't remember even after carefully watching. It feels like the videos are great information and presentation wise for someone that already played tekken before and wants to pick up raven, but it's a bit overwhelming when you're coming from other fighting games or T8 is your first fighting game since the combos usually interact with a bunch of other systems like wallbreaks, wallsplats etc. which are incredibly hard to grasp on top of already overwhelming variety of things the characters can do in general.
well system mechanics and learning a character are two different things. Raven is complicated as it is, it’s wise to understand system mechanics first imo
Man, I need a miracle to do that, I've practiced till my fingers hurts and I can't do it, it just won't go into my head, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I try to do d,df,d and won't crouch dash, I do teabag
Wow, this is pretty hard. You can't have over 5 frames between each crouch dash input other wise it won't work, It's tough, but I'm getting the hang of it.
You customize your P5 controller to be P4 so youre not actually using a P5 controller to do the inputs. Its kinda dishonest. Its a lot harder to do on a P5 controller
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Dude thanks so much for making and comprehensive guides. I was always super casual in T7 and I'm really into T8, just playing ranked off and on and playing with some friends in the local scene here in my city. My Raven has gotten so much better because of you, and now that I can finally wavedash in a real game thanks to this video, it feels like the cherry on top to better learn the game and fundamentals every day. Keep on doing amazing stuff man!
You have no idea how important your Raven content is to me.
I've always wanted to check out the character & Tekken 8 was the perfect opportunity. Thank you for your content!
no probs bro 🙏🏽
OH MY GOD, I literally just asked about this in your previous video when you talk about how to do it on hitbox because I'm using pad and arcade stick interchangeably. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAN. APPRECIATE IT.
THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL. GOD BLESS U, MY FRIEND.
😭😭😭😭😭
Raven main here! Just got my copy of Tekken 8 Reporting for Duty!
yessirrrrr!!!
Ngl this corny but funny 🤣
@@romlans3941 😭
Raven clan unite
Clan Raven STAND UP!
Ravens, if you’re still having issues with this tech you can also change your right analog to left analog. This allows you to sidestep cancel your wavedash by flicking up on the right analog then continue your wavedash. Dash, flick, dash, flick etc…
Ima gonna try this out. I kept trying to do qcf over and over. Didn't realize I didn't need to f input. Labbing this tomorrow
im a new player to tekken and just picked up raven, im enjoying him a lot. Thank you this video was helpful, time to practice.
Omgg I was practicing the double ff3 into the qcf1,2 for like 3 hours and I only hit it like twice and I was so confusedd. The content came thru!! I needed this😂😂
👀
I always thought I was the Problem, but it's really more about perfect timing
I still can’t get it but imma keep practicing it. Please keep up the good work I’m maining raven and I’d love to have a go to for info and play style knowledge
Sick. Since they took out heihachi i was looking for a new main. Used raven one time and immediately decided. Hes tha 1
Can't go wrong with Raven. Put the practice in, then kick ass!
You know, i was watching some Pinya, GoAttack and JDCR Raven gameplay, and i think they all went for the easier combo variant (using soulzone 3 for tornado). Perhaps they havent just havent practiced enough for the optimal combo yet but i thought that was interesting.
yeah it’s a hard combo so i’m not surprised
This is super interesting and a very important video imo. I've always found Raven to be easier played on pad, but I can't play my other mains like Yoshi and Eddie on pad at all. I have to plug in my stick between games when I play with friends 😂
loooool it be like that
THANK YOU!!! jeez man i was researching so many reddit threads, twitter, youtube for something with pad but no one had anything. Fr thank you!
Figured id make one since i had so many people asking 🫣
Can you do a movement guide on pad? I can’t move around properly and always ended up being launched
Damn i know ive asked you how to wd before with raven when you had the master raven tutorial years back. I still cant do it haha, but thats on me, seeing the controller in action is super helpful man. Gon try it again! Thanks!
it’s literally just finding that “spot” in the dpad, once you find it it’ll be easy for you to
@@imortalXsoul Appreciate it brother and all the new Raven content you are churning out!
I was trying to find a main in Tekken 8 as it is my first Tekken. Tried out 10 characters and narrowed it down to either Jun or Raven. I couldn't decide on either, so I just made their CPUs fight for the spot. The CPU Raven won the FT3 so now Im a Raven main.
LMAO
A fellow padder as well, excellent
I use hitbox but i did this pad guide for everyone on pad lol
Thanks man. I play fighting games on a logitech f310 lmao and I just got this down today. Appreciate it :)
nice!!
This is really helpful! but I'm having trouble after the initial crouch step. I do what you say in the video and return to neutral quickly and do d,df but i just kind of crouch there. Maybe the timing is very strict idk what I'm doing wrong. But thanks for these videos they've been a big help with me learning tekken/raven as a new player.
find the spot in the dpad that allows you to go from df to neutral
Punishment guide please 🙏
punishment for who? or ravens punishment lol
Hey man, what do you have your bumper and triggers bound too?
L2 3+4 L1 1+2 R2 1+4 R1 HEAT BURST
Been playing tekken on pad since 7, and currently is playing raven on pad.
The combos on pad aint too hard. But i do occasionally drop them during matches, or forget my combos.
The wave dash is very helpful. Howver i prefer using analog rather than Dpad.
whatever works for you is the best imo
can you do a lever guide for wavedash aswell?
big fan of your content brother 👏 🙌
yea maybe, i don’t like raven on stick 😅
So to go from ff2 twice to QCF1,2 it’s timing ?
does the QCF1,2 have to be frame perfect? everytime i practice it i either get jabs or the QCF1,2 comes out and tornadoes them but it counts a pickup, not part of the combo
nah its not frame perfect, just tight
My problem was doing QCF instead DDF for that crouch. Kept on "fat" fingering 😅
Nice. That's how I do it. I learned it very late in tekken 7. But I'm no master at it. I'm still working to refine it better. But I'd love video on what's the best way to play him. Here is an example: Should we be up close with strings, should we use 50/50 mix ups a lot, should we use more of a defensive poke oriented play style? Or try and and play keep out? What play style is this version of Raven best at? A video explanation on this topic from you would be extremely good.
i think it depends on your style! Raven is about space control so can be played anywhere really and has the tools for that
What did put on R1, R2 , L1 and L2 ?
For me :
R1 : 1+2
R2 : 3+4
L1 : 1+4
L2 : Heat Burst
Expert tutorial! I learned a lot from this and I use your videos as guides on how to play Raven. When are you streaming on Twitch? Looking forward to it 😄
just focusing on YT for now but twitch will come soon 🫠
@@imortalXsoul thanks for the great content man! Just won 15 out of my last 20 Raven ranked games with your guides.
@@ROKZILLA48 nice!
Can u make a vid on recommended button binds on ps5 I just started playing just wanna be as efficient with everything as possible
The binds are personal preference. The only binds id recommend is putting 1+3 (escape parry) on R3
YEEEESSSSSSSS, combo tutorial on dualsense??🤩
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How do you do the while rising 1 after wave dash on pad? Im struggling on t8 to do it! Great video btw!
d df n 1
Definetly need this. Ty very much for this. I have a question. How do you get wr/full crouch moves out of a crouch step? I am having trouble trying to mix between his qcf, wr and full crouch moves. It's not giving me what i want consistently. Hope you can help. Love the video
ws - d df n button
qcf - d df f button
full crouch - hold down, press df and button
Yo, would you mind posting a screenshot somewhere of your bindings? Cause I play in claw grip atm and would like to not have to haha
on pad i use
L1: 1+2
L2: 3+4
R1: 2+3 (heat burst and smash)
R2: 1+4
L3: Ki Charge or Rage Art
R3: 1+3 for parry
Im practicing with my dpad and when i do the 2nd wave dash its inconsistent when i try to crouch step
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT IT COULDN’T GET ANY BETTER 🤙🏿 💯
Great! This is a really informative video. Please, can you also do this for fight stick as well? I've been playing Master Raven and now Raven in T8 and one of the things I struggled with was being about to do this consistently. I always looked at Maven players who did this with envy. It would be deeply appreciated if you could!
yes, i will look into it 🕹️
Oh nice! Now I can see closely how you do the WS motion, I see you barely touch the forward button on the df command.
Yup it’s pretty quick
Awesome man!
Can you make a punishment guide how to punish your Raven?
in the future, yes :D
Hey! I love your raven content! I use both mixbox and stick and I'm making the same mistakes for the qcf+1,2 after the 3rd f,f+3 combo on both controllers. It feels like more of a timing issue so maybe you could elaborate more on that aspect? I also just watched a mirror match between Pinya and Go_Attack and one (or both?) of them would sometimes drop this combo too and eventually just resorted to the simpler variations. The timing seems very specific because if you do it too fast, the jab comes out and if too slow, they can tech roll and the window for it seems strict.
yeah it’s pretty strict to be honest but the timing is just after ff3 recovery and cannot be buffered. It’s just a matter of inputting qcf12 quickly after it
@@imortalXsoul I thought as much. Seeing you do it on the pad really shows how quick it has to be so that was very helpful. Thanks!
@@wapaking. no probs!
Would you to do a tutorial for Nina’s butterfly loop on DPad like this too? I play both Nina and Raven so thanks for this video and all videos concerning Raven!
maybe in the future yeah
@@imortalXsoul 🥷🏾💯
People was asking and I see you with the content, keep grinding man seriously your gonna be big
preciate that 🙏🏽
Raven looks so cool but some of these combos look so hard I’ll have to lab quite a bit before deciding to play him in actual games
What's the best button layout buff to use raven?
i use
L1: 1+2
L2: 3+4
R1: 2+3 (heat burst and smash)
R2: 1+4
L3: Ki Charge or Rage Art
R3: 1+3 for parry
it’s personal preference
I don't know what moves you're doing. Can you have the inputs up for future guides?
i’ll consider it 🙌🏽
Thank you but I still can do the wr moves after wave dash
d df n (button)
Dude youre the best
Can you not use control stick for this?
if its more comfortable for you, yeah
BIG question for ya. How do you know when you've canceled the crouch dash? I wanna use it to mix in full crouch buttons, and while rising stuff and atm i cant control what in getting.
by your input, there is no visual cue really it’s what you’re pressing and what you intend to do
You recommend stick or pad for a new Tekken player? I play stick on SF and pad on MK
hitbox - but pad out of the two
@@imortalXsoul I decide on stick, lol
@@JohnnyBooze good luck!
Just curiousity, is there a reason you dont display the buttons display feature in the training room ?
it looks better, i also think the command history is confusing and there’s no colour to the buttons. It’s better to see what i’m doing visually. I did this in tekken 7 with no hand cam and command history on and it didn’t help… so im switching it up
@@imortalXsoul ah understandble :P
I still dont get how you get WS2 to happen after dash, i get the qcf2 move every single time, i guess Raven is just not for me sadge
@@zenks5883 it’s cos you’re ending the input with forward
so crouch step cancel is d, df, d, df * d, df ?
nope, d df n d df n OR d df d n d df d n
did i miss it or did say nothing on how to crouch-dash cancle for the WS 3,2 at the end of most combos?
d df n 32. That’s not the difficult part
@@imortalXsoul I mean d,d/f,b my WS moves get more reliable that way. Am I doing something unnecessary with that?
Could someone please tell me the written notation for this optimal combo? I'm struggling with just picking it up through watching?
ws1, ff3, ff4, 1, ff3, 1, ff3, qcf12 T!, ender
@@imortalXsoul Thank you
Hey I need some advice. I’m pretty new to fighting games and never played a tekken game before. I think I wanna main either raven or devil Jin. I have an arcade stick from street fighter as well as a ps5 controller. I’m wondering what should I learn tekken with? Is pad better for certain characters? Thanks
just play what you feel comfortable on, if it’s pad… use that
@@imortalXsoul what do you recommend cause to be honest both feel goofy for tekken.
@@Rift04 hitbox in that case, i use hitbox and raven feels quicker on it than pad especially back dash and movement
@@imortalXsoul sorry. I only have arcade stick and ps5 game pad? I assume this means use game pad?
@@Rift04 ah ok, use pad then personally i hate raven on stick
there are times where i whiff the qcf 1 and there are times where it lands but my combo resets, any tips?
you were too slow, enable tech roll so it doesn’t reset
Another great video imortal!
THANK YOU!!! Needed this lol.
!!! no probs!
Woah it looks sooo easy but i just cant get it.. been trying for hours. Tomorrow another day xD
Thank you, needed this
🙏🏽
Can you play as Lars? I feel special about him. Please, if you don't mind playing with him
nah i don’t play Lars, there are some really cool Lars content creators though you should check them out 🔥
@@imortalXsoul ok, thank you 🌹
Did they patch the wave dash? Cuz my inputs are literally perfect d df n d df n d df n yet it comes out slow af. I can see the inputs on my screen perfect I don’t get it
no they didnt, still doable
@@imortalXsoul idk what I’m doing wrong, I can get it if I do the regular dash and then hold down and go df right after
@@imortalXsoul but I can’t do the df neutral one back to back to back
@@lilalvi10 yea that’s a crouch step, you need to chain crouch step not crouch dash! As said in the video you need to find the point on the dpad that allows you do go from d df n and repeat
Dont play pad but commenting for the algo
W!!!!!!!
This is way harder than mishima wavedash and even bryan "wavedash" and if you do it fast it barely moves. Is this actually important to use or just for flexxing?
the fast one is basically just a flex but i do feel that wave dashing is important, not essential for winning but it helps
Thanks. It turns out I can actually do it I just was trying way too fast. @@imortalXsoul
What I'm personally missing/having trouble with is that a lot of the resources list so many things for raven that it's hard to have a good overview. Something like showing the most important launcher combos and their easier variations and talking about when to maybe change them up to get wall carry etc and what one gets from carrying people to the wall. And i also think for the longer videos maybe having a quick summary graphic or just a normal summary helps a lot since there's a ton of information that most new players just can't remember even after carefully watching.
It feels like the videos are great information and presentation wise for someone that already played tekken before and wants to pick up raven, but it's a bit overwhelming when you're coming from other fighting games or T8 is your first fighting game since the combos usually interact with a bunch of other systems like wallbreaks, wallsplats etc. which are incredibly hard to grasp on top of already overwhelming variety of things the characters can do in general.
well system mechanics and learning a character are two different things. Raven is complicated as it is, it’s wise to understand system mechanics first imo
I play on a xbox controller, hopefully this skill can carry over
The concept carries across all pads so you’ll be fine
Man, I need a miracle to do that, I've practiced till my fingers hurts and I can't do it, it just won't go into my head, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I try to do d,df,d and won't crouch dash, I do teabag
so hard qcf 1, 2 on arcade stick (with lever)
Wow, this is pretty hard. You can't have over 5 frames between each crouch dash input other wise it won't work, It's tough, but I'm getting the hang of it.
nice! it requires some practice for sure
Thanks man I'm just picking up Tekken and decided to main Raven. This channel is very helpful 👌
🙏🏽
My first tekken ever played and I will learn everything from you
For qcf1,2 i just use the analog stick its much easier to do imo
interesting! whatever works for you
@@imortalXsoul like fr I don't even drop combos anymore 👌🏼
How tf did you know I needed this exact video made, you are my goat gang 🗣️
lmaooo everybody asked for it
@@imortalXsoul I mean I can see why this shi hard mane lol
IDK why but i cant do this shit on stick to save my life (the wavedash). Guess its time for pad.
So in order to link FF3 into qcf 1,2 we have to do the wave dash thing ?
not exactly, its qcf12 so just a crouch dash
W vid as usual
W comment
ugh, i'm doing this on stick.
the timing is still the same! 🥷🏿
You customize your P5 controller to be P4 so youre not actually using a P5 controller to do the inputs. Its kinda dishonest. Its a lot harder to do on a P5 controller
no, all the parts are still PS5. The colours are different lol none of these parts are from the DS4.
How much damage is it?
@@LockDoWNLou what do you mean 🤔