The parents of this counter culture, from ignorant love, set their children free. Free from man, free from God. Thinking that was the cure to modern disease; man made church of man. Little did they know that in that damaging kind of freedom we would be ultimately empowered to return to God. The nightmare of sin they gave us for freedom turned by God into our ballast. Carrying us upon the tide of forgetful evil back to His Church. To learn to be His Children! What a great, great, great mystery. Glory to God!
A good talk, but the laying down of both lives is really equal. Every time a woman carries a child and delivers a new life through the passage of her body there is tremendous sacrifice (a labour of love, life, and blood). Even more so, in Western countries, where children are often seen as a liability to her (if the husband/father isn't available to the family), having children can almost guarantee the risk of impoverishment for a woman or lower retirement security. (I'm a female Muslim convert to Orthodoxy).
I will just say this. I agree with the yoke mates view and that one must be equally yoked. Especially since it feels like ive been told to be perfect before i can get married. At the same time... It feels like youve said that man has to basically sacrifice everything for the wife. But what if the wife doesnt care about the mans sacrifice and keeps demanding more? Ive seen this consistently. Modern people are greedy and often tell others that ask for a little something that they demand too much. I know marriage is a sacrament. But in the modern west. It feels like it is treated more like an extended dating game. Or merely an agreed upon contract. Not even a bond.
This is functionally accurate, unfortunately. That's why I've adopted both the teachings of the church, but I also know how intersexual dynamics work and use both in my marriage. Sadly, that may not be enough to save it, but we brought a lot of baggage into it from outside the church too. Date accordingly.
We got married in our parish back in 2006, so it's seventeen years in now, plus we were together for four years before that (we're both in our early forties, @ the boundary between Gen-X & Millenial). There's nothing more difficult in life for us non-monastics than marriage, nothing. Monks/nuns have their thing & we have ours. St. John Chrysostom realized how difficult the married life is when he moved to Constantinople, whereas before that he looked @ things from only a monk's perspective. You have to patiently let a woman be hard-headed & screw up, then you have to gently & lovingly explain the situation to her w/o being accusatory, display understanding for where she was coming from, & be humble about your own shortcomings, etc. It's tough, but the alternatives are no family, no kids, no sex (@ least not blessed by God), & no spouses to save each others' souls. That's the real point of marriage: salvation. It's the major ascetic struggle in human history, not monasticism--not even close numerically speaking. A difficult wife can save your soul effectively if you don't get psyched out. If you can be a good husband & dad there might even be a little joy in there from time to time too. It's not easy. It's really hard. Is anything easy in life worth it?
@@russellhoward3866I've gotten to the point that I've become blackpilled on marriage and finding that woman for me. I honestly have a hard time as it is as a single man out in the world. So.... As much as I desire marriage. I've kinda decided that maybe I'm just not meant to marry and have kids.
Please look up the article “The mystery of marriage in a dogmatic light” by Bishop Artemy. Sexual relations are blessed by God within marriage for having and raising children to love and serve the Lord. Sexual acts which are intended only for pleasure and the indulgence of the flesh and which are not open to procreation are not blessed by God. If a couple is told that they are biologically unable to have children, since all things are possible with God it is still blessed if they have sexual relations with hope and trust in God that He might grant children if it is His will.
@@panokostouros7609 i have heard a lot of orthodox say this, even priest but almost every Saint and Early Church Father have zero tolerance against violence of any kind. As one said "it is better to be raped and killed and become martyd than shed blood in defense. Because we live not for this world but for the next".
@@algotrobertsson8721you are probably misinterpreting the scriptures. Don’t base your view on one verse or statement, but look at them in entirety. The church teaches differently. Submit to the church.
I thought women were supposed to be good, submissive keepers of the home also? We need more (ever dwindling in numbers) Titus 2 women to remind younger women that men want the Proverbs 31:10 wife. Hey, if my standard as a man and husband should be to be like Jesus Christ, then her standard as the wife should be the Proverbs 31:10 wife (or the blessed virgin Theotokos), seems only fair.
@Ksiezniczkajesttutaj I agree 50%. Men not understanding women will get them wrecked in this world. Even if they don't want/get a relationship, it's never a bad thing to know how intersexual dynamics work.
Before you think you know what a Christian WIFE looks like, do you know what a husband's role is as an Orthodox Christian... neither is how the christian west has taught.
@Ksiezniczkajesttutaj I'm blessed & grateful that the Lord showed mercy on to me. All I'm saying is that if priests/pastors are telling men to put down the porn, video games, & weed (which I do agree with), they should be telling women to put down the social media bikini pics, masters degrees, and maxed out credit cards. We all fall short of the glory of God & we all have work to do period
@@thaimuayshoo1171eh. disagree on masters disagrees. i want my female doctors lol. encourage deep introspection within women though…about what they actually want. some women genuinely enjoy education and want a job that requires more than a bachelors, some do not but go through with it because of external pressure or lifelong expectations.
I cannot concentrate because there’s a dog barking in the background of this man who says he’s orthodox. Why would he have a show like that having a dog barking in the background?
Listening to his message which is from the Saints would be profitable. Sometimes we have distractions in life but that does mean we can't focus on God. Why go so fast to judge when we can listen to the message and move closer to God. Theirs no better feeling, then when you're following God. The Saints which he's quoting are the ones we follow and learn from. They're Saints because they truly follow God. It's really changed my life realizing this. I'm not a wise man but my heart feels at ease having experienced this. Father Peter Heers is Truly Orthodox. He teaches Orthodoxy truthfully and by experience. Learning from the Saints and putting forth their message. I'm Grateful for that. Glory to God ☦️
Feminism was badly needed given the way society has treated women throughout the ages. Unfortunately, it's conservative religion that puts down femininity and uplifts masculinity and male-entitlement. It took a secular video to show me how Ephesians touches on truths about femininity and masculinity. Now, remember, everything must go back directly to a teaching of Christ. So, under the umbrella of submitting to each other, the wife submits (receives from the man and supports) and the husband's headship is to care for the wife as Christ cares for the church by providing for and to carrying out acts of service to benefit others. There is no hierarchy, no who is the boss, etc.. It's just a way of carrying out Christ's command to love one another in a way that touches on aspects of femininity and masculinity.
One of the biggest scams in history and today is the attitude that a woman isn't valuable unless she's a man. And depending on time, place, cultural and religious aspects it usually takes place somewhere between the spectrum of "she's not a man so she's worthless and can do nothing to change that"------"she can provide men with services (ie. housekeeping, s3x) that they want so she is to be tolerated and has some value as long as she keeps doing that"--------"she's valued and respected as long as she acts like a man". In the west women are typically put somewhere between the second and third. In some other countries they are often put between the first two options, sadly. I am forever grateful that feminism got me my basic human rights. Not being allowed to go out without a man or a chaperone, not being able to have my own bank account, not being allowed to make my own political or religious choices, having no legal right to my own children if my husband leaves me? No thanks! But people are taking it too far. God created a man and a woman, not a man and a slightly smaller, weaker man. If I have to act like a man in order to be valued and respected by society, I don't want it.
The dog just wants to lay by your side and pray for you while you cast !
Please let us meet your dog !!
I just commented on the same thing, for goodness sakes.
Please do a longer talk on this topic!
Yes! Please Father Peter Heers do a longer talk on this topic! 🙏🏽☦️
You should publish a book on the anthropological differences between men and women
And Theological /Spiritual differences
The parents of this counter culture, from ignorant love, set their children free. Free from man, free from God. Thinking that was the cure to modern disease; man made church of man. Little did they know that in that damaging kind of freedom we would be ultimately empowered to return to God. The nightmare of sin they gave us for freedom turned by God into our ballast. Carrying us upon the tide of forgetful evil back to His Church. To learn to be His Children! What a great, great, great mystery.
Glory to God!
A good talk, but the laying down of both lives is really equal. Every time a woman carries a child and delivers a new life through the passage of her body there is tremendous sacrifice (a labour of love, life, and blood). Even more so, in Western countries, where children are often seen as a liability to her (if the husband/father isn't available to the family), having children can almost guarantee the risk of impoverishment for a woman or lower retirement security. (I'm a female Muslim convert to Orthodoxy).
Take care of that dog, please, show some love and compassion, let him inside. 😍👍
I will just say this. I agree with the yoke mates view and that one must be equally yoked. Especially since it feels like ive been told to be perfect before i can get married.
At the same time... It feels like youve said that man has to basically sacrifice everything for the wife. But what if the wife doesnt care about the mans sacrifice and keeps demanding more?
Ive seen this consistently.
Modern people are greedy and often tell others that ask for a little something that they demand too much.
I know marriage is a sacrament. But in the modern west. It feels like it is treated more like an extended dating game. Or merely an agreed upon contract. Not even a bond.
This is functionally accurate, unfortunately. That's why I've adopted both the teachings of the church, but I also know how intersexual dynamics work and use both in my marriage. Sadly, that may not be enough to save it, but we brought a lot of baggage into it from outside the church too. Date accordingly.
I will just stay single, is better in these days
@Ksiezniczkajesttutajlol feminism was NEVER about honesty. It was all about manipulation and control. Destroying families and pushing an agenda.
We got married in our parish back in 2006, so it's seventeen years in now, plus we were together for four years before that (we're both in our early forties, @ the boundary between Gen-X & Millenial). There's nothing more difficult in life for us non-monastics than marriage, nothing. Monks/nuns have their thing & we have ours. St. John Chrysostom realized how difficult the married life is when he moved to Constantinople, whereas before that he looked @ things from only a monk's perspective.
You have to patiently let a woman be hard-headed & screw up, then you have to gently & lovingly explain the situation to her w/o being accusatory, display understanding for where she was coming from, & be humble about your own shortcomings, etc. It's tough, but the alternatives are no family, no kids, no sex (@ least not blessed by God), & no spouses to save each others' souls.
That's the real point of marriage: salvation. It's the major ascetic struggle in human history, not monasticism--not even close numerically speaking. A difficult wife can save your soul effectively if you don't get psyched out. If you can be a good husband & dad there might even be a little joy in there from time to time too. It's not easy. It's really hard. Is anything easy in life worth it?
@@russellhoward3866I've gotten to the point that I've become blackpilled on marriage and finding that woman for me. I honestly have a hard time as it is as a single man out in the world. So.... As much as I desire marriage. I've kinda decided that maybe I'm just not meant to marry and have kids.
Is that your dog in the background?
The devil is outside barking .
😯
I want to know about sex from an Orthodox perspective. Within marriage what's appropriate and inappropriate and why.
Please look up the article “The mystery of marriage in a dogmatic light” by Bishop Artemy. Sexual relations are blessed by God within marriage for having and raising children to love and serve the Lord. Sexual acts which are intended only for pleasure and the indulgence of the flesh and which are not open to procreation are not blessed by God. If a couple is told that they are biologically unable to have children, since all things are possible with God it is still blessed if they have sexual relations with hope and trust in God that He might grant children if it is His will.
Maybe get married first and then worry about that
@@theskyizblue2day431Who does your message come from? Worry?
Like people don't bring baggage in from Orthodox families.
That dog is a feminist and is mad you're preaching the truth about men and women! 😂
Animals know no -isms for they do not have a rational faculaty and thus no capacity for mindsets.
😂
Wonderful spiritual instruction as always, but someone needs to put the dog outside.
Man and woman and God created them. The theology of the body
Saint John Paul the second
What’s with the dog barking
Does not the roll as protector go against the Church teaching on pascifsm?
The Church doesn't teach "pacifism"
@@panokostouros7609 i have heard a lot of orthodox say this, even priest but almost every Saint and Early Church Father have zero tolerance against violence of any kind. As one said "it is better to be raped and killed and become martyd than shed blood in defense. Because we live not for this world but for the next".
The church is not pasifistic, a simple look at the warrior saints demonstrate this
@@algotrobertsson8721didn’t Jesus go to the temple and overturn the money lender’s tables? That was an attack, an attack against evil.
@@algotrobertsson8721you are probably misinterpreting the scriptures. Don’t base your view on one verse or statement, but look at them in entirety. The church teaches differently. Submit to the church.
I thought women were supposed to be good, submissive keepers of the home also? We need more (ever dwindling in numbers) Titus 2 women to remind younger women that men want the Proverbs 31:10 wife. Hey, if my standard as a man and husband should be to be like Jesus Christ, then her standard as the wife should be the Proverbs 31:10 wife (or the blessed virgin Theotokos), seems only fair.
It's not about fairness, it's about Scripture, but yes 100% agree.
@Ksiezniczkajesttutaj I agree 50%. Men not understanding women will get them wrecked in this world. Even if they don't want/get a relationship, it's never a bad thing to know how intersexual dynamics work.
Before you think you know what a Christian WIFE looks like, do you know what a husband's role is as an Orthodox Christian... neither is how the christian west has taught.
@Ksiezniczkajesttutaj I'm blessed & grateful that the Lord showed mercy on to me. All I'm saying is that if priests/pastors are telling men to put down the porn, video games, & weed (which I do agree with), they should be telling women to put down the social media bikini pics, masters degrees, and maxed out credit cards. We all fall short of the glory of God & we all have work to do period
@@thaimuayshoo1171eh. disagree on masters disagrees. i want my female doctors lol. encourage deep introspection within women though…about what they actually want. some women genuinely enjoy education and want a job that requires more than a bachelors, some do not but go through with it because of external pressure or lifelong expectations.
🐂 yokes or 🥚 yokes
Egg YOLKS
I cannot concentrate because there’s a dog barking in the background of this man who says he’s orthodox. Why would he have a show like that having a dog barking in the background?
Listening to his message which is from the Saints would be profitable. Sometimes we have distractions in life but that does mean we can't focus on God. Why go so fast to judge when we can listen to the message and move closer to God. Theirs no better feeling, then when you're following God. The Saints which he's quoting are the ones we follow and learn from. They're Saints because they truly follow God. It's really changed my life realizing this. I'm not a wise man but my heart feels at ease having experienced this. Father Peter Heers is Truly Orthodox. He teaches Orthodoxy truthfully and by experience. Learning from the Saints and putting forth their message. I'm Grateful for that. Glory to God ☦️
Feminism was badly needed given the way society has treated women throughout the ages. Unfortunately, it's conservative religion that puts down femininity and uplifts masculinity and male-entitlement. It took a secular video to show me how Ephesians touches on truths about femininity and masculinity. Now, remember, everything must go back directly to a teaching of Christ. So, under the umbrella of submitting to each other, the wife submits (receives from the man and supports) and the husband's headship is to care for the wife as Christ cares for the church by providing for and to carrying out acts of service to benefit others. There is no hierarchy, no who is the boss, etc.. It's just a way of carrying out Christ's command to love one another in a way that touches on aspects of femininity and masculinity.
One of the biggest scams in history and today is the attitude that a woman isn't valuable unless she's a man. And depending on time, place, cultural and religious aspects it usually takes place somewhere between the spectrum of "she's not a man so she's worthless and can do nothing to change that"------"she can provide men with services (ie. housekeeping, s3x) that they want so she is to be tolerated and has some value as long as she keeps doing that"--------"she's valued and respected as long as she acts like a man". In the west women are typically put somewhere between the second and third. In some other countries they are often put between the first two options, sadly.
I am forever grateful that feminism got me my basic human rights. Not being allowed to go out without a man or a chaperone, not being able to have my own bank account, not being allowed to make my own political or religious choices, having no legal right to my own children if my husband leaves me? No thanks! But people are taking it too far. God created a man and a woman, not a man and a slightly smaller, weaker man.
If I have to act like a man in order to be valued and respected by society, I don't want it.