On the Roles of Men and Women

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2023
  • Excerpt from "Lord, Lead Us in Thy Way that We May Walk in Thy Truth: The Unity of Orthodox Dogma and Ethos" by Fr. Peter Heers
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Комментарии • 84

  • @katherine3486
    @katherine3486 8 месяцев назад +33

    The dog just wants to lay by your side and pray for you while you cast !
    Please let us meet your dog !!

  • @aaronmalloy6012
    @aaronmalloy6012 8 месяцев назад +35

    You should publish a book on the anthropological differences between men and women

    • @katherine3486
      @katherine3486 8 месяцев назад +17

      And Theological /Spiritual differences

  • @OrthodoxFamilyLife
    @OrthodoxFamilyLife 4 месяца назад +7

    Please do a longer talk on this topic!

    • @sureiajergman6408
      @sureiajergman6408 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes! Please Father Peter Heers do a longer talk on this topic! 🙏🏽☦️

  • @Orthodoxi
    @Orthodoxi 8 месяцев назад +13

    The parents of this counter culture, from ignorant love, set their children free. Free from man, free from God. Thinking that was the cure to modern disease; man made church of man. Little did they know that in that damaging kind of freedom we would be ultimately empowered to return to God. The nightmare of sin they gave us for freedom turned by God into our ballast. Carrying us upon the tide of forgetful evil back to His Church. To learn to be His Children! What a great, great, great mystery.
    Glory to God!

  • @lichberserker
    @lichberserker 8 месяцев назад +4

    Is that your dog in the background?

  • @russellhoward3866
    @russellhoward3866 8 месяцев назад +8

    Like people don't bring baggage in from Orthodox families.

  • @patrickshiels9499
    @patrickshiels9499 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful spiritual instruction as always, but someone needs to put the dog outside.

  • @Peepsqueek
    @Peepsqueek 8 месяцев назад

    😯

  • @TheCelticSlav
    @TheCelticSlav 8 месяцев назад +8

    I will just say this. I agree with the yoke mates view and that one must be equally yoked. Especially since it feels like ive been told to be perfect before i can get married.
    At the same time... It feels like youve said that man has to basically sacrifice everything for the wife. But what if the wife doesnt care about the mans sacrifice and keeps demanding more?
    Ive seen this consistently.
    Modern people are greedy and often tell others that ask for a little something that they demand too much.
    I know marriage is a sacrament. But in the modern west. It feels like it is treated more like an extended dating game. Or merely an agreed upon contract. Not even a bond.

    • @fullm3taljacket
      @fullm3taljacket 8 месяцев назад +5

      This is functionally accurate, unfortunately. That's why I've adopted both the teachings of the church, but I also know how intersexual dynamics work and use both in my marriage. Sadly, that may not be enough to save it, but we brought a lot of baggage into it from outside the church too. Date accordingly.

    • @-_Confessor-_
      @-_Confessor-_ 8 месяцев назад +3

      I will just stay single, is better in these days

    • @TheCelticSlav
      @TheCelticSlav 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@frenne_dilleylol feminism was NEVER about honesty. It was all about manipulation and control. Destroying families and pushing an agenda.

    • @russellhoward3866
      @russellhoward3866 8 месяцев назад +9

      We got married in our parish back in 2006, so it's seventeen years in now, plus we were together for four years before that (we're both in our early forties, @ the boundary between Gen-X & Millenial). There's nothing more difficult in life for us non-monastics than marriage, nothing. Monks/nuns have their thing & we have ours. St. John Chrysostom realized how difficult the married life is when he moved to Constantinople, whereas before that he looked @ things from only a monk's perspective.
      You have to patiently let a woman be hard-headed & screw up, then you have to gently & lovingly explain the situation to her w/o being accusatory, display understanding for where she was coming from, & be humble about your own shortcomings, etc. It's tough, but the alternatives are no family, no kids, no sex (@ least not blessed by God), & no spouses to save each others' souls.
      That's the real point of marriage: salvation. It's the major ascetic struggle in human history, not monasticism--not even close numerically speaking. A difficult wife can save your soul effectively if you don't get psyched out. If you can be a good husband & dad there might even be a little joy in there from time to time too. It's not easy. It's really hard. Is anything easy in life worth it?

    • @TheCelticSlav
      @TheCelticSlav 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@russellhoward3866I've gotten to the point that I've become blackpilled on marriage and finding that woman for me. I honestly have a hard time as it is as a single man out in the world. So.... As much as I desire marriage. I've kinda decided that maybe I'm just not meant to marry and have kids.

  • @BMC867
    @BMC867 8 месяцев назад +2

    I want to know about sex from an Orthodox perspective. Within marriage what's appropriate and inappropriate and why.

    • @OrthodoxEthos
      @OrthodoxEthos  8 месяцев назад +13

      Please look up the article “The mystery of marriage in a dogmatic light” by Bishop Artemy. Sexual relations are blessed by God within marriage for having and raising children to love and serve the Lord. Sexual acts which are intended only for pleasure and the indulgence of the flesh and which are not open to procreation are not blessed by God. If a couple is told that they are biologically unable to have children, since all things are possible with God it is still blessed if they have sexual relations with hope and trust in God that He might grant children if it is His will.

    • @theskyizblue2day431
      @theskyizblue2day431 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe get married first and then worry about that

    • @BMC867
      @BMC867 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@theskyizblue2day431Who does your message come from? Worry?

  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 8 месяцев назад +4

    The devil is outside barking .

  • @JetShanghai
    @JetShanghai 8 месяцев назад +20

    That dog is a feminist and is mad you're preaching the truth about men and women! 😂

    • @ruhmuhaccer864
      @ruhmuhaccer864 8 месяцев назад

      Animals know no -isms for they do not have a rational faculaty and thus no capacity for mindsets.

    • @sureiajergman6408
      @sureiajergman6408 4 месяца назад

      😂

  • @algotrobertsson8721
    @algotrobertsson8721 8 месяцев назад +1

    Does not the roll as protector go against the Church teaching on pascifsm?

    • @panokostouros7609
      @panokostouros7609 8 месяцев назад +27

      The Church doesn't teach "pacifism"

    • @algotrobertsson8721
      @algotrobertsson8721 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@panokostouros7609 i have heard a lot of orthodox say this, even priest but almost every Saint and Early Church Father have zero tolerance against violence of any kind. As one said "it is better to be raped and killed and become martyd than shed blood in defense. Because we live not for this world but for the next".

    • @billybenson3834
      @billybenson3834 8 месяцев назад +13

      The church is not pasifistic, a simple look at the warrior saints demonstrate this

    • @romanromanchuk7718
      @romanromanchuk7718 8 месяцев назад +15

      @@algotrobertsson8721didn’t Jesus go to the temple and overturn the money lender’s tables? That was an attack, an attack against evil.

    • @romanromanchuk7718
      @romanromanchuk7718 8 месяцев назад

      @@algotrobertsson8721you are probably misinterpreting the scriptures. Don’t base your view on one verse or statement, but look at them in entirety. The church teaches differently. Submit to the church.

  • @LorenzoMasterConnector
    @LorenzoMasterConnector 8 месяцев назад +1

    Man and woman and God created them. The theology of the body
    Saint John Paul the second

  • @monkjohn4833
    @monkjohn4833 8 месяцев назад +1

    🐂 yokes or 🥚 yokes

  • @thaimuayshoo1171
    @thaimuayshoo1171 8 месяцев назад +9

    I thought women were supposed to be good, submissive keepers of the home also? We need more (ever dwindling in numbers) Titus 2 women to remind younger women that men want the Proverbs 31:10 wife. Hey, if my standard as a man and husband should be to be like Jesus Christ, then her standard as the wife should be the Proverbs 31:10 wife (or the blessed virgin Theotokos), seems only fair.

    • @fullm3taljacket
      @fullm3taljacket 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's not about fairness, it's about Scripture, but yes 100% agree.

    • @fullm3taljacket
      @fullm3taljacket 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@frenne_dilley I agree 50%. Men not understanding women will get them wrecked in this world. Even if they don't want/get a relationship, it's never a bad thing to know how intersexual dynamics work.

    • @gingerdefilippo
      @gingerdefilippo 8 месяцев назад +2

      Before you think you know what a Christian WIFE looks like, do you know what a husband's role is as an Orthodox Christian... neither is how the christian west has taught.

    • @thaimuayshoo1171
      @thaimuayshoo1171 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@frenne_dilley I'm blessed & grateful that the Lord showed mercy on to me. All I'm saying is that if priests/pastors are telling men to put down the porn, video games, & weed (which I do agree with), they should be telling women to put down the social media bikini pics, masters degrees, and maxed out credit cards. We all fall short of the glory of God & we all have work to do period

    • @stonerwitch4629
      @stonerwitch4629 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@thaimuayshoo1171eh. disagree on masters disagrees. i want my female doctors lol. encourage deep introspection within women though…about what they actually want. some women genuinely enjoy education and want a job that requires more than a bachelors, some do not but go through with it because of external pressure or lifelong expectations.