@@TheTurdle It's too hard when you play it for the first time and it's too easy when you play it multiple times. It doesn't have the same balance as this and many other boss fights have
@@sl1v3r-31 I'm convinced that first time you fight the time eater is rigged because the way it took me almost an HOUR to beat the first time around but all later runs took maybe AT WORST 4 mins
I like the changes from Unleashed to here! Fewer strings and more breakbeats signify a faster battle at slightly lower stakes. Basically a "daytime version" of the original Egg Dragoon!
The original theme was much more intense and badass, while this one is more tame yet still cool. The original Egg Dragoon theme has that dangerous tone that Sonic doesn't even know if he will survive. Hes falling to his death with Eggman making sure of it, Eggman Really wants Sonic dead in the fight because he already won. The new Egg Dragoon theme in generations is more on Sonics side. Sonic defeated the Egg dragoon in his Werehog form a few years ago. If Sonic beat him once, he can do it again, but last time he barely survived so the theme still has that uneasy feel and it fits great. Sonic Forces Egg dragoon in the game, and its awful. (Pun fully intended)
The fact this improved version can not only overtake Sonic while he’s running near straight ahead, but maintain such a distance as he boosts is a testament to the capabilities of this machine. It can not only target him reliably enough with all of its attacks to pose a consistent challenge, but flat out channel the Time Eater’s ability to warp space and time to completely alter the fight. This means it can compensate for part of its new modular design taking sufficient damage with a different form of combat. This thing is a legitimate threat, a true pinnacle of both boss design, and Eggman’s mad science. Then forces said “hey, check this out.” And absolutely defiled it with a fight that ends in like two minutes with quick and easy ‘shape-in-hole’ patterns. No I won’t let this go, this is one of my favorite bosses ever.
I wouldn't say this remix was bad, it was still really good, but I gotta say, I prefer Unleashed's version. It simply felt more urgent and went all out with it, while Generations' version sort of dialed it down a little.
I think it’s cause that similar to the biolizard and perfect chaos. It’s not as threatening anymore because they were already fought and defeated. Heck Sonic doesn’t even the chaos emeralds to fight perfect chaos anymore.
So in the original we were falling down a gorge as Eggman puts it, but here, we're running along a massive tunnel. If it weren't for Eggman's change of pace attack showing that we aren't sideways, I would have believed we were running to the center of the earth
Nah man I just listened to the unleashed version and this one and I chuckled to myself a bit after. The unleashed egg dragoon fight theme was crazy and sounded like it was barely finished when it was time to play, just like the egg dragoon itself in unleashed. But In sonic gen it sounds finished and more tame and ready to pipe a whole orchestra of holy shit into my ears
This boss fight is good, but Unleashed is way better. It felt more hands on in that game, especially the XBox 360 version. I also don't exactly understand how people say this theme was better. I get it that it's a more orchestral remix, but the original had that beat to it if you get what I mean. And not just the beat-em-up fighting style.
I agree. The Unleashed version is better compared to the Generations version, but the changes with the theme is understandable since the Egg Dragoon is not the final boss in this game, and having the pre-final boss theme be more epic compared to the final boss theme would have been a bad decision.
@@Mod3rn0ccult1st But in Unleashed, despite it having a final boss like theme, it is the final brawl between Dr. Eggman and the monster that he basically created being Sonic the Werehog and the fight is a bit more different than the other night stage bosses. I'm not saying the others are bad and I like all of them for how unique each are with how you go against them. The day time bosses are mainly just boost loops and two of the three bosses are basically the same just one decided to take it to an 11.
@@retrorezzie1746 true. I also think that Unleashed had the best version of Sonic. He's heroic, kind, inspirational in a way, a good friend, and can be funny. His humor isn't overboard so it mixes just enough to work out perfectly.
@@MochicoArtemis did you play the Wii/PS2 versions or XBOX360/PS3 version as both play out a bit differently. Yes they're very similar, but I honestly like the more cinematic points in the HD version of Unleaded showing a more unique way of taking out the Egg Dragoon. And it all ends with the Werehog testing the Egg Mobile out into starlight effect (a.k.a. He's basting off again).Generations did add a lot of new attacks or variations, but I just don't feel the intensity or risks that fight had as much as the one in Unleashed. Unleashed had greater risks with the entire planet splitting apart and the possibly complete revival of a god-like entity sho can bring the world into a permanent darkness. Yes Generations risked the distortion of time and space which seems worse, but it just didn't feel like much of a challenge in the end. Forces was the worst of the Egg Dragoon fights as it has no story purposes. The Ultra Hyper Prototype 1 was specifically made using some of the energy/power of Dark Gaia. So why would he make it again if it isn't gonna be powered up by an energy as strong as Dark Gaia's? But, I get that everyone has their own views and can prefer some bosses over others.
Honestly I feel like it was a good idea to remove the orchestral feel of the original theme because I feel like the point of the original egg dragoon theme was to combine the speed of the day boss theme with the power of the night boss theme but this version is fought like a day boss so it doesn’t make sense to have the night boss style music
About the only thing WRONG with this boss fight is Eggman's line mixes (seriously who mixed them?). The Dragoon is a really imposing machine with over a dozen different attacks. And how fast you win is entirely under your control. There are very few attacks where you can't make progress. Many of the attack timings are super tight which encourages replay to learn the timing for each opening and if you can keep your boost active long enough without getting hit, you can get free hits on the Dragoon. And what about this Eggman theme!? Also, when you beat the Dragoon and Sonic is just oozing that "too cool for school drip".
I suppose when making this, Sega thought it was time for a change of pace. It’s not bad, and made me freeze in my seat. No amount of words could burn this masterpiece.
@@ADoodGuy Sonic Unleashed had a Egg Dragoon Boss Battle with a slightly different theme but a completely different play style, which came out 5 years before Generations.
some of these parts sound like phantasy star bb themes specificlythemes like that of the forest level, I mean it is also owned by sega so it makes sense even tho they have diffrent composers for each.
Played through Generations on my PS3 for the first time yesterday. This boss was super glitchy but still fun and challenging, unlike the final boss which was just annoying
Here goes not bad here goes time for a change of pace FREEZE! BURN! not bad PREPARED TO BE SKEWERED!! GRRRR GRRRR here goes time for a change of pace not bad ....
@Kid Synthesize no I’ve played it completely it’s my fav sonic game ask me any questions but you’re actually stupid if you like this theme more than the original lmao
@wipflashgamer6507 unleashed version was more heavy and intense to fit the werehog, generations version is more fast and energetic to fit sonic's normal style
This soundtrack WAS a change of pace
I see what you did there🤣
Eggman: Time for a good music video!
@@ethanpeacock6933 lol
The pace got faster but the song got less tense in general.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo funny😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool music, cool design and kind of cool that unlike the final boss this one was difficult for the right reasons.
You are damn right, Generations was my first 3D Sonic game and this thing made feel in a boss fight, Time Eater was ugly
i find the final boss really easy even hard mode isn't that difficult
@@TheTurdle It's too hard when you play it for the first time and it's too easy when you play it multiple times. It doesn't have the same balance as this and many other boss fights have
@@panafa3617 yea but play the 3ds version it’s way harder
@@sl1v3r-31 I'm convinced that first time you fight the time eater is rigged because the way it took me almost an HOUR to beat the first time around but all later runs took maybe AT WORST 4 mins
Time for change of pace
Not bad
Freeze
Burn
Grrrr
Prepare to be skewered!
Parallel attack!
I'm not finished yet !
the 5 elements of annoying
Separation attack!
I like the changes from Unleashed to here! Fewer strings and more breakbeats signify a faster battle at slightly lower stakes. Basically a "daytime version" of the original Egg Dragoon!
wow i never thought of that
The original theme was much more intense and badass, while this one is more tame yet still cool.
The original Egg Dragoon theme has that dangerous tone that Sonic doesn't even know if he will survive. Hes falling to his death with Eggman making sure of it, Eggman Really wants Sonic dead in the fight because he already won.
The new Egg Dragoon theme in generations is more on Sonics side. Sonic defeated the Egg dragoon in his Werehog form a few years ago. If Sonic beat him once, he can do it again, but last time he barely survived so the theme still has that uneasy feel and it fits great.
Sonic Forces Egg dragoon in the game, and its awful. (Pun fully intended)
Unleashed and Generations don't sound any different
@@MochicoArtemis different instrument play
@@chillycoldchomper9389 true, but that doesn't mean that they don't sound the same
@@MochicoArtemis to me it sounds different like the screech like sound in unleashed, and silence in generation.
@@chillycoldchomper9389 is that the only difference?
The fact this improved version can not only overtake Sonic while he’s running near straight ahead, but maintain such a distance as he boosts is a testament to the capabilities of this machine. It can not only target him reliably enough with all of its attacks to pose a consistent challenge, but flat out channel the Time Eater’s ability to warp space and time to completely alter the fight. This means it can compensate for part of its new modular design taking sufficient damage with a different form of combat.
This thing is a legitimate threat, a true pinnacle of both boss design, and Eggman’s mad science.
Then forces said “hey, check this out.” And absolutely defiled it with a fight that ends in like two minutes with quick and easy ‘shape-in-hole’ patterns. No I won’t let this go, this is one of my favorite bosses ever.
the forces version is a blight on the franchise
Just like the rest of that game
Dr. Starline ahh comment
@@RaziOrSomething "his ping(as) is immaculate!"
This was my favourite fight in this game
This was cool but perfect chaos was better overall
@@najibosman6497 disagree
@@najibosman6497 disagree, egg dragoon was the much more challenging and fun boss fight
PREPARED TO BE SKEWERED [proceeds to get destroyed in a tunnel by a tiny hedgehog]
“You little.... You little”
egg man finally got smart by moving out of the way in the 2.d part
FREEZE BURN!!!!!!
what do you choose EGGMAN!!!!!
10K views, wow! I wasn't expecting this video to be this popular but I'm not arguing!
yes
I wouldn't say this remix was bad, it was still really good, but I gotta say, I prefer Unleashed's version. It simply felt more urgent and went all out with it, while Generations' version sort of dialed it down a little.
To put it another way, it was a change of pace.
I think it’s cause that similar to the biolizard and perfect chaos. It’s not as threatening anymore because they were already fought and defeated. Heck Sonic doesn’t even the chaos emeralds to fight perfect chaos anymore.
I think maybe because sonic already beat it once so he knows what to do, plus they’re not in earths core lol.
This is a bop,
Not surprising when its from sonic
Uhh, sonic pinball?
sonic chronicles?
No, waku waku sonic patrol car..
But good guess buddy!
Both Soni pinball and sonic chronicals have good music, what are you taking about
So in the original we were falling down a gorge as Eggman puts it, but here, we're running along a massive tunnel. If it weren't for Eggman's change of pace attack showing that we aren't sideways, I would have believed we were running to the center of the earth
I thought we were running around in a giant donut
We are falling in to somewhere so
This has always been purely an eggman theme to me. It fits him so well
Nah man I just listened to the unleashed version and this one and I chuckled to myself a bit after. The unleashed egg dragoon fight theme was crazy and sounded like it was barely finished when it was time to play, just like the egg dragoon itself in unleashed. But In sonic gen it sounds finished and more tame and ready to pipe a whole orchestra of holy shit into my ears
Time for a change of pace!
How did we get from Unleashed, to Generations, two really good themes, to Forces? One of the biggest downgrades to a boss I’ve seen in Sonic.
Imagine if eggman gets in smash and this is his main theme
How would he fight lmao
@@lorantpapp07 he would fight in a change of pace
@@lorantpapp07 He could fight in his eggmobile, but it would be hard to make his moveset different from Bowser Jr's.
@@bookish.8877 and his Final Smash would be the Egg Dragoon since thats his most powerful mech
@@theminecraft2516 no, keep it simple
This boss fight is good, but Unleashed is way better. It felt more hands on in that game, especially the XBox 360 version. I also don't exactly understand how people say this theme was better. I get it that it's a more orchestral remix, but the original had that beat to it if you get what I mean. And not just the beat-em-up fighting style.
I agree. The Unleashed version is better compared to the Generations version, but the changes with the theme is understandable since the Egg Dragoon is not the final boss in this game, and having the pre-final boss theme be more epic compared to the final boss theme would have been a bad decision.
@@Mod3rn0ccult1st
But in Unleashed, despite it having a final boss like theme, it is the final brawl between Dr. Eggman and the monster that he basically created being Sonic the Werehog and the fight is a bit more different than the other night stage bosses. I'm not saying the others are bad and I like all of them for how unique each are with how you go against them. The day time bosses are mainly just boost loops and two of the three bosses are basically the same just one decided to take it to an 11.
meh, both of them don't sound much different, besides which, fighting Egg Dragoon as the Werehog wasn't that cool
@@retrorezzie1746 true. I also think that Unleashed had the best version of Sonic. He's heroic, kind, inspirational in a way, a good friend, and can be funny. His humor isn't overboard so it mixes just enough to work out perfectly.
@@MochicoArtemis did you play the Wii/PS2 versions or XBOX360/PS3 version as both play out a bit differently. Yes they're very similar, but I honestly like the more cinematic points in the HD version of Unleaded showing a more unique way of taking out the Egg Dragoon. And it all ends with the Werehog testing the Egg Mobile out into starlight effect (a.k.a. He's basting off again).Generations did add a lot of new attacks or variations, but I just don't feel the intensity or risks that fight had as much as the one in Unleashed. Unleashed had greater risks with the entire planet splitting apart and the possibly complete revival of a god-like entity sho can bring the world into a permanent darkness. Yes Generations risked the distortion of time and space which seems worse, but it just didn't feel like much of a challenge in the end. Forces was the worst of the Egg Dragoon fights as it has no story purposes. The Ultra Hyper Prototype 1 was specifically made using some of the energy/power of Dark Gaia. So why would he make it again if it isn't gonna be powered up by an energy as strong as Dark Gaia's? But, I get that everyone has their own views and can prefer some bosses over others.
Honestly I feel like it was a good idea to remove the orchestral feel of the original theme because I feel like the point of the original egg dragoon theme was to combine the speed of the day boss theme with the power of the night boss theme but this version is fought like a day boss so it doesn’t make sense to have the night boss style music
considering half of the things in the original boss had to be removed,they did a good job with this.
I just love that Richard Jacques worked on this Song. (And a few other) her did an awesome Job in jsr and seeing him here is just cool
"Not bad, not bad..."
The jenkest boss in the whole game oh my god it's so fun yet so confusing
What triggered me was the wall jump portion pushing me down when I physically couldn't jump either without taking damage anyways
Wow, this song has some Phantasy Star Online vibes!
Thanks to Kobayashi.
This boss is also like Olga Flow's
2021 STILL POPING OFF WITH THIS SONG
"TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE!"
The original had way more intensity to it
Yet this one sounds more like Sonic racing a boss... which is what this battle's about
G-geez eggman simmer down!
"Wing units, deploy!"
TIME FOR A CHANGE OF ECONOMY! (Five year Plan joke)
im so happy that im not the only one here in september 2020
The wait gave good results
White sus
@@Jeikku_ nah its red
@@luckylukey4389 I’m going to kill myself.
Me, coming from Unleashed: okay, there's no way this boss can get any cooler.
Eggman: SEPARATION ATTACK!
Me: *happy squealing*
Nah unleashed is better haha
@@ovybz. I mean, how are you gonna top "plummeting to the center of the earth" as a setpiece?
@@Stargazer_Pie exactly man
I understand what you mean, but Unleashed felt a lot more fresh, the stakes were at the highest, and felt more hands on...figuratively and literally.
@@brandonfazbear4219 *cue Werehog throwing Eggman to the moon*
Time for a change of pace instantly turns daytime they should of had this stage in day time in sonic unleashed
About the only thing WRONG with this boss fight is Eggman's line mixes (seriously who mixed them?). The Dragoon is a really imposing machine with over a dozen different attacks. And how fast you win is entirely under your control. There are very few attacks where you can't make progress. Many of the attack timings are super tight which encourages replay to learn the timing for each opening and if you can keep your boost active long enough without getting hit, you can get free hits on the Dragoon. And what about this Eggman theme!? Also, when you beat the Dragoon and Sonic is just oozing that "too cool for school drip".
This Is How You Do A Reused Boss Fight
Not as good as Unleashed but I can accept this.
How can I disagree with you but at the same time agree?
@@YdanT_37 huh?
@@YdanT_37 Wow! Fuck you, too!
For real the unleashed version is the best but generations still good. Same opinion as you
both don't sound any different
When the next time they use egg dragoon...
Time for a change of pace!!!!!
and then forces ruined it.
TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE!!!
I suppose when making this, Sega thought it was time for a change of pace. It’s not bad, and made me freeze in my seat. No amount of words could burn this masterpiece.
Is there gonna be a mashup of egg dragoon?
Oh my god my ears have been gifted on christmas day or something
Sound so weird without “prepare to be skewered!” “Time for a change of pace!” “Freeze!”
My favorite boss in this game. Right after the Shadow and Metal Sonic one
Bless Kobayashi and his glorious trumpets!
1:52 Best part
Eggman approves
Of course he does. It's his theme. :3
"Time for a change of pace!"
probably eggmans strongest and coolest mech
This is good, but i don't think it holds the same intensity as the original.
I remember hearing this song on The game good times
Which egg dragon theme is better unleashed or generations
Unleashed cause it sounded more intense.
@@AbgHadi ok
This is the greatest plan
For rage intentions: Unleashed
To only listen and enjoy: Generations
I think a lot of unleashed's is better, but 1:52 is just amazing on this version
Half of this comment section doesn’t even know where this is from 😂
Sonic Unleashed duhh
Wait, did some viral video I never heard of use this as the bgm or is it something else?
@@ADoodGuy Sonic Unleashed had a Egg Dragoon Boss Battle with a slightly different theme but a completely different play style, which came out 5 years before Generations.
@@ovybz. Oh I thought it was something else. I've never seen anyone who thought the Egg Dragoon was an original mech from Generations.
@@ADoodGuy well now you know
For music, I'd prefer this one as Unleashed sounds more muffled,
Don’t talk about fictional women challenge
some of these parts sound like phantasy star bb themes specificlythemes like that of the forest level, I mean it is also owned by sega so it makes sense even tho they have diffrent composers for each.
Played through Generations on my PS3 for the first time yesterday. This boss was super glitchy but still fun and challenging, unlike the final boss which was just annoying
Here goes
not bad
here goes
time for a change of pace
FREEZE!
BURN!
not bad
PREPARED TO BE SKEWERED!!
GRRRR
GRRRR
here goes
time for a change of pace
not bad
....
Hmph!
Ha!
TAKE THAT!
YOU LITTLE
1:14 - 1:31 is my favourite part
Better than the original for sure. Makes me hope for a translation of the Dragoon in LEGO
1:15
Mad jack vs Egg dragoon
i always liked this theme because of the distortion when sonic boosted it only added to the parts like 2:09
Anybody still vibing to this in 2021?
Yes
Yes
im in 2022 lol
Vibing to this and the Egg Dragoon (Unleashed) preparing for the new Sonic movie sequel in April 8 2022
Yes
Boss before the final boss > the final boss
Fight me
2:14 is good but unleashed is still better
Exactly!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@Kid Synthesize you clearly haven’t played unleashed
@Kid Synthesize cap
@Kid Synthesize no I’ve played it completely it’s my fav sonic game ask me any questions but you’re actually stupid if you like this theme more than the original lmao
*Here goes*
Everybody gangsta till you hear this November 13th 2021
*November 1st
what did he mean by this
The Second Coming vs. King Orange (Animation vs. Minecraft Season 3)
Best song in da game
oh, hey, the same theme was remixed for sonic unleashed.... cool.
This version is good, but the unleashed one is wayyyyyy better
when it’s time for a change of pace
0:00 my Brain when the teacher passes out a test I didn’t study but still got a A and then my parents think I cheated
This boss battle took me 3 times to beat 🤦🏾♂️
The ending is kinda good
Awesome
Dr. Eggman said D R A G O N but just one more o
me: -hears remix-
also me: *N O T B A D*
This boss is a pain the ass but the music doe
I know right I was stuck on it for the longest time lol
Time for a change of phase!!
Speed up!
WALL-E’s in a really bad shape!
Bring WALL-E back to his trailer, and save him!
"ecap fo egnanhc a rof emiT"
-namggE
"Time for a chance of pace"
-Eggman
Soo good
ngl, this one sounds more smoother, than the one in Sonic Unleashed
Agreed
In 2021 I am saying TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE!!!!!!!
Why does the Egg Dragoon sound like friggin Bowser
Can we please get a mod that replaces the Egg Dragoon with Artifice Aion from Xenoblade 2.
For me the music sounds a bit "off"
I love this theme!
FREEZE
BURN
Time for a change of pace!!
Parallel Attack!
Time to get scewered!!!!!
Not Bad!
*UNLEASHED IS BETTER*
*THEE END*
*werehog casually breaks the egg mobile and throws eggman to space*
The battle or music
@wipflashgamer6507 unleashed version was more heavy and intense to fit the werehog, generations version is more fast and energetic to fit sonic's normal style
@@Nekotario thats what ive been saying
@@dragonator1012 that's why unleashed battle and theme were better 😎
Time for a change of pace
Original is really better but this is a banger 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Boys: smashes bug. Girls:
Brand new animal x sonic
Not as good as the original but still good
Does anybody have the time?
ZEIT FÜR EIN TEMPO WECHSEL