One of my favorite college point guards. Rooted heavy for him to get a good opportunity in the league. Still hurt it had to be him with the big steal and 3 that sunk the Memphis Tigers season in 08. Salute to a legend.
I went to the McDonald's All-American Game in 2006. That toss off the backboard dunk was crazy to see in person. Sherron Collins showed out that game. Outplayed Ty Lawson.
He was in that era with the bowling ball PGs that looked like football players (ie Bryon Eaton and Curtis Jerrells)..he should’ve left after his Jr season tbh that was when he was at his best… Im a KState fan so I remember him vividly
As important as a college education and degree is, multi million dollar nba rookie contracts are a once in a lifetime opportunity even for guys with talent like sharron. He definitely should’ve left early to at least secure that first round contract but respect him for being loyal to his former college organization. Hope he has a good career as a coach.
I think D Rose was lowkey intimidated by him in the championship game the first half. I also heard Rose speak highly of him on Math Hoffa interview…dude was cold 🥶
I played Baseball and Football with SDot at Crane. He could gone pro in any sport he chose. I think honestly his body size would’ve best suited him in football as a RB, he had size power and could lay the wood at S or LB as well, But given basketball is what Chicago breeds basketball is where he followed his path out and props to bro he showed it’s possible to come from Rockwell to the NBA!
Great job jc people always say muscles don't matter but condition and nutrition are the most important talent only takes you so far. You still have to put the work in
Sheron was the man I ain’t gone lie to you I played against him one time I gave him 14 points. He gave me a stunning 30pts but you know the most important thing I learned and appreciated from Sheron is that he told me to keep playing and that I had game which gave me that confidence boosts to love the game of basketball. You will always be Chicago very own point guard with the best game and handles. One…
6:56, that couldn’t be more wrong. Especially at KU. These dudes merely have to walk in town, even all those years later, and still be treated with awe and respect. Sherron got a coaching job here in Lawrence because of that.
He was speaking in the sense that u as a player should leave while ur hot instead of staying. Obviously they treat sherron like royalty in Lawrence but he could have gotten that same love if he left earlier because he helped win KU a ship. Only calipari at UK tells u to leave for the draft even when u wanna stay another year.
Literally my favorite college hooper ever. Guy was a stud at KU, one of the most elite at a school with great guard history. Sorry my Jayhawks had to do it to you to 2008. *those KU games between him and Pullen make me so nostalgic
He was measured at 5'10.25 barefoot with a 6'2.5 wingspan. He is too undersized even as a 3rd string pg in the nba. At that size he has to he lightning fast and accurate, strong, smart, athletic.
Sherron was first to flop and then came Xavier Henry and Josh Selby. I thought Sherron was gonna pretty decent in the NBA. Sherron and D Rose came up at the same time in Chicago.
Played against him at Nike All American. Watching him go against Ty showed me why Ty was in the class of Durant and Beasley. Whereas Collins was with Nick Wise and Tweety Carter.
As a female KU fan from 95 on my husband married into the likness of Jayhawks in 2016. He since then has questioned where all the players have gone. And I often find myself wondering that the ones who stayed their senior years never went on to the NBA. Or that some of them leave and don't do as well. It's always like a huge gap between. I am talking about Nick Collins who I saw a couple of years ago. Kirk Henrick. I know they went on. But didn't make a huge splash like Paul Pierce or Mario. Can you do more players? Great videos always!!
As someone who lost his sister over a year ago, hearing the news about his 10-month old son passing away really broke my heart. I think that’s why he didn’t leave early. To finish what he started, despite the brutal adversity. At least he made it to the league. I feel for him, I really do.
Side bar to this video I loved watching the K state teams with j pullen they was nice, but yea after beating d rose in the natty u gotta just leave after that
Right like I get wanting to graduate or whatever but plenty of dudes went to the league and got their degrees later if you get the chip it's time to dip
He was a bench player the year they won that Natty. If he left after that season, I doubt he would've been drafted. It was after the next season, his Junior season that his draft stock would've been the highest.
Stunted Growth list MICKEY CROWE ESTEBAN WEAVER OCTAVIOUS THOMAS If OST247, Overtime, and Slam were around during the late 80s and early 90s they would have been flocking to a small high school on the westside of Atlanta, Georgia called Walter F. George High School. To witness one of the best high school basketball players to ever come out of the state of Georgia. Known simple as “Oct”, to all Georgia basketball aficionados and players who have played against him or heard the stories Octavious Thomas had a cult following similar to Benji Wilson in Chicago, Demetrius “Hook” Mitchell in Los Angeles, and Earl Manigault in New York. Thomas was six-foot one left-handed guard who could get where ever and score with the best of them. He had the blazing speed of Kyrie Irving, with Russell Westbrook fire, and Dame Lillard’s ability to take the game over from the point guard position. Thomas only played three years of high school basketball as was considered by the end of his junior year as the #2 point guard in the country in 1991-1992, who was #1 that year a fella from Oakland California by the name of Jason Kidd. Thomas had a chance to prove why he should be number one during the summer of 1992, in Las Vegas in front of many Division 1 college coaches, including UNLV’s legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian. The result was Jason Kidd finished with 27 points, while Thomas finished with an amazing 52 points and was vaulted into the national spotlight as the number #2-point guard in the country. Unfortunately, due to academic issues, he was not eligible his senior season causing him to not attend college. The legend of Thomas considered by many to be the best NBA or High School player to come through Georgia is still talked about even 28 years later. Stats that support these claims, was as a junior at George High School he averaged 37.9 ppg and 10.8 ast. During the state tournament he scored 49 vs Lafayette, 33 vs Gainesville, 34 vs Seminole County, and in the championship game vs Mitchell-Baker he scored 24 points in a one-point loss 71-70.
Please do Robert Dozier of Memphis Tigers and or Joey Dorsey of Memphis Tigers. Tag team them my brother. Memphis don't go to the championship without those two. Of course D Rose was the main event.
Sharon Collins and Gerry McNamara faced the same fate. They both should have left after the National title win. Both returned and only played a single season in the league. Both them players could have played in the league
Sherron collins. Didn't make it because of. His. Heights. If was. 6"3. Or. Taller. He would have gotten picked up Btw. Zion Williamson. Is. Almost. 6"6. Barefoot. There's a difference
Not sure if that's "Stunted Growth" or that he's just not tall enough and his age. I feel he maximized his playing ability but given that he was around 23 when he was drafted 34th the draft after he was National Player of the Year in college. He is under 6 feet tall as well. He didn't really get a legit shot in the NBA even after being the G-League MVP. He was as good as he was going to get, but "limitations" (age and height) by NBA standards are what kept teams from giving him a legit chance.
@stonecoldku4161 I understand your point of view, and all your points are valid.I just feel like when you take into account his situation in college with KU Bill Self is one of those system coaches who does not maximize the talent he has just plugging kids into that. Plus, I'm from Petersburg, and when you would read articles about him, I honestly thought he was 6'5 "until I saw him in college. I never saw him play in high school, but I graduated from PHS and followed the basketball team for years. There were a few players in the league, and one top 35 talent, I think, with the right opportunity he could shine.
@@undergroundrailroadnews7434 I agree with the "right opportunity" he could shine, but unfortunately finding the right opportunity in the league is hard to come by. I mean look at Wiggins. He was having a decent career, but everyone thought he was underachieving given his athleticism. He leaves the Timberwolves, goes to the Warriors and becomes an All-Star and NBA champion. Given that Frank was 23, that window to find the right opportunity was going to be small. Plus, I think that working within that Bill Self system *is* what maximized his talent. He went from one of the guys on a college team to being *the* guy in all of D1 college basketball and he certainly wasn't going to get drafted prior to that year. Bill Self I think gets a bad rep for not developing NBA talent, but he's put 38 players in the league and 7 of his former players have won 8 NBA championships. Calipari has put the most players in the league and only two of them have won championships and they were both one and done guys. All but one of Self's NBA champion players were Juniors or Seniors when they left the program.
He was never NBA Material. Great rah rah college guy. Kansas doesn’t really produce great pros outside of Paul Pierce. Especially at the point . Lionel Chalmers ?meh. Jaque Vaughn? Yuck. Kansas Guards are extra trash
Depends on your definition of great pros. I mean if winning an NBA championship means anything then Kansas has had 7 different players win 8 titles since Bill Self has been there. One was a Center, and another was a PF all the rest were guards.
@@stonecoldku4161 i mean Will Perdue has 3 or 4 rings, does that make him a great? I can tell you are clearly a KU fan, but don’t pretend Kansas has had great guard play. JoJo White in the 70sis probably the ONLY KU guard that was very good in the NBA. We all know the best KU players have been Forwards and Centers. They are always led by rah rah 5’11- 6 footish undersized pgs and shooting guards that don’t translate to the league for anything nyg other than role player status. It’s one thing to win NBA titles, it’s another being an IMPACT PLAYER on a chip. Chalmers is the only I can think of in the Bill Self or Roy Williams Era, and Jacque Vaughn. Nobody checking for Kansas Guards. Lol I’m a Gtown fan and take away AI and Sleepy Floyd, we don’t put out good guards either
@@stonecoldku4161 Wiggins is a forward. Braun barely had impact. I’ll give Wiggins and Embod their due, but that’s it. Being on a championship team doesn’t impress me unless you were a big straw in the drink. Wiggins definitely counts, I’ll even give Chalmers credit. The rest were just on the team. Braun is not an impact player. Just a good 10 minutes of breather in Denver. Show me the starters on a chip
@@JimBrownski I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on having to be starter and have an impact. I mean Joker said that Braun was the reason they won game 3 of the finals. Morris (not a guard granted) had some big games in the playoffs that helped get LA to the finals and Lebron his fourth title. Lebron gave a shout out to Sasha Kaun (again not a guard) during the Cavs chip celebration for helping the team get better even if he wasn't on the floor. Brandon Rush was a piece of one of the Warriors chips and part of that team that had the most regular season wins ever. And not including guys that won chips Kirk Hinrich had a long successful career in the NBA. Kelly Oubre Jr. is having a good career. Are these guys All-Stars? No, but I wouldn't call them "trash" in my opinion. Devonte Graham is another guy that's doing well. If you have a different opinion that's fine and we can agree to disagree on things.
One of my favorite college point guards. Rooted heavy for him to get a good opportunity in the league. Still hurt it had to be him with the big steal and 3 that sunk the Memphis Tigers season in 08. Salute to a legend.
Yezzir! And accordingly, would like to request a Frank Mason SG, given the Kansas connection and similar fate. Salute! 🫡
Everybody is your favorite. 🙄
Darius Miles
Darius Miles
I went to the McDonald's All-American Game in 2006. That toss off the backboard dunk was crazy to see in person.
Sherron Collins showed out that game. Outplayed Ty Lawson.
This era in Chicago HS Basketball was crazy. Collins, Rose and Pat Bev man it was crazy
He was in that era with the bowling ball PGs that looked like football players (ie Bryon Eaton and Curtis Jerrells)..he should’ve left after his Jr season tbh that was when he was at his best… Im a KState fan so I remember him vividly
As important as a college education and degree is, multi million dollar nba rookie contracts are a once in a lifetime opportunity even for guys with talent like sharron. He definitely should’ve left early to at least secure that first round contract but respect him for being loyal to his former college organization. Hope he has a good career as a coach.
Forgot about that era you just made me remember Levance Fields from Pittsburgh bro was definitely a fullback playing point
Yep, Tommy mason jr as well for Oklahoma
I think D Rose was lowkey intimidated by him in the championship game the first half. I also heard Rose speak highly of him on Math Hoffa interview…dude was cold 🥶
They always went at it since high school
Trash ass math hoffa. Shotty horroh wrecked him in rap battle
I love that you remember guys that time has forgotten about🙏🏾💪🏾
I played Baseball and Football with SDot at Crane. He could gone pro in any sport he chose. I think honestly his body size would’ve best suited him in football as a RB, he had size power and could lay the wood at S or LB as well, But given basketball is what Chicago breeds basketball is where he followed his path out and props to bro he showed it’s possible to come from Rockwell to the NBA!
These episodes are so humbling to watch at times. So much talent in all these guys and sometimes it just doesn't work out smh..
Great job jc people always say muscles don't matter but condition and nutrition are the most important talent only takes you so far. You still have to put the work in
Sheron was the man I ain’t gone lie to you I played against him one time I gave him 14 points. He gave me a stunning 30pts but you know the most important thing I learned and appreciated from Sheron is that he told me to keep playing and that I had game which gave me that confidence boosts to love the game of basketball. You will always be Chicago very own point guard with the best game and handles. One…
This was my guy back in the day he was my height and weight and doing work ..I couldn’t get right I was too stupid back in them days man …man good vid
Fun fact: Will Bynum and Sherron Collins are both players from Crane High School that went undrafted in the NBA
That's crazy I guess the NBA has something against crane
And tony Allen
6:56, that couldn’t be more wrong. Especially at KU. These dudes merely have to walk in town, even all those years later, and still be treated with awe and respect.
Sherron got a coaching job here in Lawrence because of that.
Exactly 💯 this dude is reaching
He was speaking in the sense that u as a player should leave while ur hot instead of staying. Obviously they treat sherron like royalty in Lawrence but he could have gotten that same love if he left earlier because he helped win KU a ship. Only calipari at UK tells u to leave for the draft even when u wanna stay another year.
Collins was tough at Kansas I’m bias towards small guards because I was one I wish his career panned out differently
Literally my favorite college hooper ever. Guy was a stud at KU, one of the most elite at a school with great guard history. Sorry my Jayhawks had to do it to you to 2008.
*those KU games between him and Pullen make me so nostalgic
Pullen’s from Illinois as well and yes he was a bad man
How was he a stud in college and not drafted wtf
Thank you so much for this one. I loved watching Sherron Collins play. I won money on that Kansas Memphis game. That said I was happy as hell.
He was a beast at Crane H.S in Chicago. He will down as the greatest H.S guard in Chicago
Very tough and good player, but for a city like chicago he’s not even close respectfully.
Can you do a feature on some Canes guards like , Shane Larkin , Angel Rodriguez or Jack McClinton?
McClinton was the truth at Miami I always wondered what happened to him
@@travisknott932 McClellan was pretty good too. So was Johnny Hemsley and Guillermo Diaz
Thank you ! Been waiting on this for a long time
do jordan farmar next please
Stunted growth thank u bro I ask him to do a video on sherron Collins cause I grew up with him as a kid and it came true
Chicago's Very Own West Side Shorty Sherron Collins.
My favorite college player of all time!! Thank you for this video..
I remember when they got upset by Ali Faroukmanesh and Northern Iowa Univ. In the 2nd round. People were expecting them to win it all that year.
My boy! Chicago legend
Sherron was unstoppabls in that NCAA game I forget which one 😂 dude literally didn't miss.
Then how about Dee Brown and Rip Reggie Lewis 🤔💯👍🏾
Another good 1. I forgot about Collins. U need to do rb Todd Gurley.
He was measured at 5'10.25 barefoot with a 6'2.5 wingspan. He is too undersized even as a 3rd string pg in the nba. At that size he has to he lightning fast and accurate, strong, smart, athletic.
CHICAGO!!!!
Sherron was first to flop and then came Xavier Henry and Josh Selby. I thought Sherron was gonna pretty decent in the NBA. Sherron and D Rose came up at the same time in Chicago.
I loved Josh Shelby. Seemed Bill Self was a master at recruiting guards in the late 00s early 2010s.
Man, I completely forgot about Xavier Henry. That’s a throwback
I never saw it with Xavier.
He was battling with Patrick Beverley in the Red West in Hoop Reality. If Derrick Rose made those free throws, Memphis would have won🐯
Yeahhhh Chicago shit, West side Shit!!!
Played against him at Nike All American. Watching him go against Ty showed me why Ty was in the class of Durant and Beasley. Whereas Collins was with Nick Wise and Tweety Carter.
What class were you in? What college did you end up playing for ?
@@itwasalladream21 high school class 2006. Played for the Maryland Terps.
@@Jburneyjr I gave James Gist 20 & 10 and blocked one of his dunks in aau tourney when he played for dc blue devils
@@Obstakill lol cool, ill see if he remembers you
You should do Jerryd bayless
I remember him . He was a beast in Kansas
Heshimu Evans should be next, he had a very solid college career.
Yes
He is a legend in Portugal
@@JoseSilva-yr7fo I'am from Portugal 😃 that's why I know. Dude almost had a foot in the NBA.
I remember him playing
Don't know if you did one? but do a O'Bannon brothers Charles and them 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💯💯💯
Believe he's done them
He did and on the Rush Brothers also
@@jovangrant6053 ok bet 👍🏾
Rashard Griffith would be a good episode too. U of Wisconsin hooper from Chicago
It boggle's my mind how many good basketball players that aren't in the NBA.
1 of my favorite players
Damn sherron I remember wen he had those flights 2 go back
Can you make a video about Jerryd Bayless?
None of that matters if D Rose makes the free throws. That game killed me too. Had CDR from the crib on that team.
Sadly I’m only here from the Derrick rose short.. wishing him the best nevertheless tho
Missed or was late to the airplane! Is what I remember that got him released!
1:25 Jacob pullen was something serious at K-state
Played against Sherron in hs. He was lil Will Bynum but better
Can you do one on KU star Jerod Haase?
Can you do a story on Dj Augustin
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As a female KU fan from 95 on my husband married into the likness of Jayhawks in 2016. He since then has questioned where all the players have gone. And I often find myself wondering that the ones who stayed their senior years never went on to the NBA. Or that some of them leave and don't do as well. It's always like a huge gap between. I am talking about Nick Collins who I saw a couple of years ago. Kirk Henrick. I know they went on. But didn't make a huge splash like Paul Pierce or Mario. Can you do more players? Great videos always!!
Both Heinrich and Collins had respectable NBA careers.
@@rootsma5746 I agree there. But sad they never got recognized as much
can you do one on tiny gallon? he was drafted by the bucks in 2010, broke a backboard during his college days and was never heard from again
Who was the k state dude that peeled bro
Jacob Pullen. Did him a while back. He was nice a K State
@@stuntedgrowth4$ho buddy had a ratchet meaning he could really shoot!😂
Holy shiiiiiiiiii!!! What happened to Jacob Pullen?
Have you done Frank Mason from Kansas?
Can we get a flip Murray stunted growth
Bro do Jacob pullen he was one of my favs back then
As someone who lost his sister over a year ago, hearing the news about his 10-month old son passing away really broke my heart. I think that’s why he didn’t leave early. To finish what he started, despite the brutal adversity. At least he made it to the league. I feel for him, I really do.
The nba isn’t everything to get the experience is a blessing better den not being in it
Adonis Jordan, Raef LaFrentz, and Ryan Robertson would be great videos too.
Side bar to this video I loved watching the K state teams with j pullen they was nice, but yea after beating d rose in the natty u gotta just leave after that
Right like I get wanting to graduate or whatever but plenty of dudes went to the league and got their degrees later if you get the chip it's time to dip
He was a bench player the year they won that Natty. If he left after that season, I doubt he would've been drafted. It was after the next season, his Junior season that his draft stock would've been the highest.
If u can, do one on my guy Lebryan Nash or Kalin Lucas
I think we should re visit John wall
Can u so Shane battier or emeka okafor?
Do one for Patrick McCaw. As Jerry West said “they’ll be sorry they didn’t take him.”
No jumpshot
This video on him and it's growth is stunted. Sheesh he had nothing to talk about.
@stunted growth do one on Ryan Humphrey
Literally was just looking this dude up. Would of been a solid player if he had the discipline
Stunted Growth list
MICKEY CROWE
ESTEBAN WEAVER
OCTAVIOUS THOMAS
If OST247, Overtime, and Slam were around during the late 80s and early 90s they would have been flocking to a small high school on the westside of Atlanta, Georgia called Walter F. George High School. To witness one of the best high school basketball players to ever come out of the state of Georgia. Known simple as “Oct”, to all Georgia basketball aficionados and players who have played against him or heard the stories Octavious Thomas had a cult following similar to Benji Wilson in Chicago, Demetrius “Hook” Mitchell in Los Angeles, and Earl Manigault in New York.
Thomas was six-foot one left-handed guard who could get where ever and score with the best of them. He had the blazing speed of Kyrie Irving, with Russell Westbrook fire, and Dame Lillard’s ability to take the game over from the point guard position. Thomas only played three years of high school basketball as was considered by the end of his junior year as the #2 point guard in the country in 1991-1992, who was #1 that year a fella from Oakland California by the name of Jason Kidd. Thomas had a chance to prove why he should be number one during the summer of 1992, in Las Vegas in front of many Division 1 college coaches, including UNLV’s legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian. The result was Jason Kidd finished with 27 points, while Thomas finished with an amazing 52 points and was vaulted into the national spotlight as the number #2-point guard in the country. Unfortunately, due to academic issues, he was not eligible his senior season causing him to not attend college. The legend of Thomas considered by many to be the best NBA or High School player to come through Georgia is still talked about even 28 years later. Stats that support these claims, was as a junior at George High School he averaged 37.9 ppg and 10.8 ast. During the state tournament he scored 49 vs Lafayette, 33 vs Gainesville, 34 vs Seminole County, and in the championship game vs Mitchell-Baker he scored 24 points in a one-point loss 71-70.
Who was that at 1:22 that stripped him?
Please do Robert Dozier of Memphis Tigers and or Joey Dorsey of Memphis Tigers. Tag team them my brother. Memphis don't go to the championship without those two. Of course D Rose was the main event.
Sharon Collins and Gerry McNamara faced the same fate. They both should have left after the National title win. Both returned and only played a single season in the league. Both them players could have played in the league
Do one on trey Burke
He reminds me of jameer Nelson
Pretty similar ubdersized pg without an elite 3 point shot equals no shot in today's nbas
To me, sherron was better than ty Lawson, Lawson had the speed over collins though.
Do Scottie reynolds
In the thumbnail he looks like shake milton
He was nice
So @stuntedgrowth that was YOU that stole the ball from Sherron, right?
This guy is jflynn at a senior. Cuse fam. Jonny was more explosive but the same game.
Ryan Humphrey
I just got outta jail for 14 months and I couldn’t wait to get home.. to take a dump in my shower
Sherron collins. Didn't make it because of. His. Heights. If was. 6"3. Or. Taller. He would have gotten picked up
Btw. Zion Williamson. Is. Almost. 6"6. Barefoot. There's a difference
Frank Mason III
Not sure if that's "Stunted Growth" or that he's just not tall enough and his age. I feel he maximized his playing ability but given that he was around 23 when he was drafted 34th the draft after he was National Player of the Year in college. He is under 6 feet tall as well. He didn't really get a legit shot in the NBA even after being the G-League MVP. He was as good as he was going to get, but "limitations" (age and height) by NBA standards are what kept teams from giving him a legit chance.
@stonecoldku4161 I understand your point of view, and all your points are valid.I just feel like when you take into account his situation in college with KU Bill Self is one of those system coaches who does not maximize the talent he has just plugging kids into that. Plus, I'm from Petersburg, and when you would read articles about him, I honestly thought he was 6'5 "until I saw him in college. I never saw him play in high school, but I graduated from PHS and followed the basketball team for years. There were a few players in the league, and one top 35 talent, I think, with the right opportunity he could shine.
@@undergroundrailroadnews7434 I agree with the "right opportunity" he could shine, but unfortunately finding the right opportunity in the league is hard to come by. I mean look at Wiggins. He was having a decent career, but everyone thought he was underachieving given his athleticism. He leaves the Timberwolves, goes to the Warriors and becomes an All-Star and NBA champion. Given that Frank was 23, that window to find the right opportunity was going to be small.
Plus, I think that working within that Bill Self system *is* what maximized his talent. He went from one of the guys on a college team to being *the* guy in all of D1 college basketball and he certainly wasn't going to get drafted prior to that year. Bill Self I think gets a bad rep for not developing NBA talent, but he's put 38 players in the league and 7 of his former players have won 8 NBA championships. Calipari has put the most players in the league and only two of them have won championships and they were both one and done guys. All but one of Self's NBA champion players were Juniors or Seniors when they left the program.
Khalid el emin
He was never NBA Material. Great rah rah college guy. Kansas doesn’t really produce great pros outside of Paul Pierce. Especially at the point . Lionel Chalmers ?meh. Jaque Vaughn? Yuck. Kansas Guards are extra trash
Depends on your definition of great pros. I mean if winning an NBA championship means anything then Kansas has had 7 different players win 8 titles since Bill Self has been there. One was a Center, and another was a PF all the rest were guards.
@@stonecoldku4161 i mean Will Perdue has 3 or 4 rings, does that make him a great? I can tell you are clearly a KU fan, but don’t pretend Kansas has had great guard play. JoJo White in the 70sis probably the ONLY KU guard that was very good in the NBA. We all know the best KU players have been Forwards and Centers. They are always led by rah rah 5’11- 6 footish undersized pgs and shooting guards that don’t translate to the league for anything nyg other than role player status. It’s one thing to win NBA titles, it’s another being an IMPACT PLAYER on a chip. Chalmers is the only I can think of in the Bill Self or Roy Williams Era, and Jacque Vaughn. Nobody checking for Kansas Guards. Lol I’m a Gtown fan and take away AI and Sleepy Floyd, we don’t put out good guards either
@@JimBrownskiWiggins and Braun had impact on the chips their teams won.
@@stonecoldku4161 Wiggins is a forward. Braun barely had impact. I’ll give Wiggins and Embod their due, but that’s it. Being on a championship team doesn’t impress me unless you were a big straw in the drink. Wiggins definitely counts, I’ll even give Chalmers credit. The rest were just on the team. Braun is not an impact player. Just a good 10 minutes of breather in Denver. Show me the starters on a chip
@@JimBrownski I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on having to be starter and have an impact. I mean Joker said that Braun was the reason they won game 3 of the finals. Morris (not a guard granted) had some big games in the playoffs that helped get LA to the finals and Lebron his fourth title. Lebron gave a shout out to Sasha Kaun (again not a guard) during the Cavs chip celebration for helping the team get better even if he wasn't on the floor. Brandon Rush was a piece of one of the Warriors chips and part of that team that had the most regular season wins ever.
And not including guys that won chips Kirk Hinrich had a long successful career in the NBA. Kelly Oubre Jr. is having a good career. Are these guys All-Stars? No, but I wouldn't call them "trash" in my opinion. Devonte Graham is another guy that's doing well. If you have a different opinion that's fine and we can agree to disagree on things.
Repent from your sins and live for Jesus Christ ❤😊
This is waste of talent at it's best !!
Fam was a dawg in highschool
He’s 5’7
Cranes Finest
Yea sherrod was never a projected first round pick , u jus b chatting
So he chose a sandwich 🥪 over a contract?… okay