E.D.I. Mean Disagrees with Lord Jamar on 2Pac Not Being the Greatest Songwriter Ever (Part 4)

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  • @TravelHall74
    @TravelHall74 4 года назад +80

    I can't lie 2pac one minute will have you crying,Mad,angry,inspired my goodness so many emotions.

    • @iamshawnwilliam
      @iamshawnwilliam 4 года назад +1

      Pac had you crying? When? 😂😂😂

  • @reece5492
    @reece5492 4 года назад +531

    Real Pac fans know all his best songs never were for the radio

    • @DreiSkins101
      @DreiSkins101 4 года назад +37

      Tupac Dedication
      ‪Tupac Shakur, Because of you my life means more‬
      ‪I now live life "Oneday At A Time", "Panther Power", "Military Mind". ‬
      ‪The "Secretz Of War" is a "Fair Exchange" for "Better Days". if it's "Thugs Mansion", then "Ghetto Heaven" is where you're lampin‬
      ‪If it's your "Resurrection", then I Picture You Rollin with "All Eyez On You"‬
      ‪whether It's L.A.,Oakland, Harlem or Soundview you‬
      ‪"Str8 Ballin" as you "Stare Through Your Rear View"‬
      ‪"Tossin It Up" but the streets Is "Death Row" but I know "Heaven Got A Ghetto"‬
      ‪And "Lord knows" you was "Heavy In The Game" you "Stayed True" from the "Cradle To The Grave"‬
      ‪Before you left you asked "How long Will They Mourn Me?"/"Bury Me A G" Is what you asked So I "Poured Out A Little Liquor" when you passed.‬
      It was "Hell For A Hustler" but "Heaven Aint Hard To Find"
      And I know the good die young so "In The Event Of My Demise"
      Let 'em know "Only God Can Judge Me" and "Still I Rise"
      IM that "Rose That Grew From Concrete", "So Holla If You Hear Me"
      Cause "I Ain't Mad At'Cha". You was a "Bad Boy Killa", "Tradin War Stories" of a "Made Nigga"
      Livin a "Thug Life" Like A "World-Wide-Mob Figga"
      An outlaw "Wanted Dead Or Alive"
      You said "Fuck The World" and "This Ain't Livin", Wow!,
      "So Many Tears"/"When Thugs Cry"
      It's "Me Against The World" and "Brenda Got Another Baby"
      And "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug", While the oldest "Get Around"/"Just Like Daddy"
      It's "krazy", "Me And My Girlfriend" livin in a "White Man'z World"
      Maybe I should write a "Letter To The President" and ask about "Changes"
      I've been "Troublesome" since '96, "Against All Odds" and caught up in the mix. At times I Wanna "Open Fire" But my "Ambitions As A Ridah", "Got My Mind Made Up". I Keep telling myself - "baby don't cry", you got to "keep your head up" " Til there's no more "pain"
      Im on my block If my homies call.
      To "live and die in L.A". Was nothing but "California love". Sippin on some "thug passion" Saying a "Hail Mary" Prayer in this fashion;
      "Dear mama", "If I die tonight", give a "letter to my unborn child". Let him know that "it aint easy" and "life goes on"
      And daddy is the "definition of a thug" nigga born
      But we the "last ones left"
      So "until the end of time" and Until my last breath
      "Smile" For Me Ya heard?
      And These are my "last Wordz".

    • @sheronbyrd1442
      @sheronbyrd1442 4 года назад +15

      Big Facts!!! Pac's lyrics and delivery makes him a 1of1 none before and none after.

    • @d.will9359
      @d.will9359 4 года назад +3

      Facts

    • @d.will9359
      @d.will9359 4 года назад +13

      Troublesome and death around the corner is two of my fav pacs song

    • @andreharrison466
      @andreharrison466 4 года назад +1

      Facts!

  • @samw7419
    @samw7419 4 года назад +166

    E.D.I mean thank you my brother for keeping Tupac's legacy alive and being a true comrade.

    • @shadow17chauncey15
      @shadow17chauncey15 4 года назад +6

      Glad sometimes talk out of both sides of his mouth one minute agreeing with Lord Jamar then agreeing with EDI mean does it keep the same energy

  • @sm00th_6
    @sm00th_6 4 года назад +83

    EDI said it best. His range was amazing. 🐐 & we only had him until 25. There’s no telling what we missed out on.

  • @TheWholeWorld1
    @TheWholeWorld1 4 года назад +173

    This man went from “Holler if you hear me!”, to “Brenda’s got a baby”, to “I get around”, to “Me against the world”, to “Dear Mama”, to “Me and my girlfriend”, to “White mans world”, to “Dear Mr President”... STOP IT! From what I’ve read there’s STILL songs this man made that were NEVER released to the public.

  • @ItsAnEndlessWorld
    @ItsAnEndlessWorld 4 года назад +148

    Funny how all of the so called "great hip hop writers" all rave about 2Pac though 😂 Pac could literally rap about anything and could evoke all emotions that's why his words will live eternally.

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Dmx > 2pac

    • @cloudyriver
      @cloudyriver 4 года назад +3

      east coast people are still mad at him

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      @@cloudyriver dmx got at pac from the east coast and took pac out before baby lane did 🤣

    • @donblack1571
      @donblack1571 4 года назад +1

      💯

    • @runelarsen8521
      @runelarsen8521 4 года назад +5

      Both Earl Simmons and lord Frieza is used accounts by the same person, he also uses Elijah Watts, Sam Rodgers and Scarlet Bouvier, and possible more than them, fuck that bitch, using all his time hating on Pac.
      Ignore that poor kid, he must have a really sad life, No family or dad or something.
      His only goal in life is to be a hater and small minded is his way of livin.

  • @int3533
    @int3533 4 года назад +219

    Man we could use someone like 2pac right about now

    • @derrickbailey4125
      @derrickbailey4125 4 года назад +2

      You think!

    • @stolenjam
      @stolenjam 4 года назад +5

      FACTS

    • @slowgomez8841
      @slowgomez8841 4 года назад +1

      Polo g

    • @joekerr570
      @joekerr570 4 года назад +1

      @Hard TIME?

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад +1

      No we couldnt...he was a weak fruity ballerina that would drop like a fly by these modern cops and push the lgbtq agenda

  • @KcLegendary
    @KcLegendary 4 года назад +199

    I wasn't a die hard fan of Pac but.. I will admit that his music alone is true fire🔥. A rapper that many folks still think he is alive compared to Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson. That speaks volumes.

    • @robertparks2555
      @robertparks2555 4 года назад +3

      Well put! 👍

    • @LeoGains
      @LeoGains 4 года назад +4

      Makaveli the Don 👍🏾

    • @robertparks2555
      @robertparks2555 4 года назад +6

      @Lord Frieza Christ your an idiot

    • @TheM0B11
      @TheM0B11 4 года назад +1

      good point

    • @deefunkstrong7818
      @deefunkstrong7818 4 года назад +4

      These are the type of statements that are opinion based. In my opinion he’s not. I wonder were all these diehard pac fans were in 1992? Everybody loved him after dear mama and shit went of the rail after his passing. I remember hip hop back then and he was not a top dude folks talked about. He wasn’t wack but he wasn’t the best. For a dude to be a revolutionary he rapped more about killing brothers and street shit. Would hit you with a “conscious song “ here and there. Never a track that I know of with folks like PARIS,PUBLIC ENEMY, the coup and a host of others. Respect to him and may he Rest In Peace but let’s not let emotions and feelings cloud judgement.

  • @coco46st
    @coco46st 4 года назад +47

    2pac Lyrics just hit home .. he ain't no punchline type lyrics..he's lyrics hit you in the heart

    • @toneb6173
      @toneb6173 4 года назад

      👌👌👌

    • @benjaminmarquez1994
      @benjaminmarquez1994 4 года назад +2

      Pac said himself that his raps were made so that people could relate. He said that he could be lyrical if he wanted like big daddy Kane but chose to do it for the fans

    • @coco46st
      @coco46st 4 года назад

      @Christian Barrett not bro stop it .
      ONLY ONE PAC

    • @coco46st
      @coco46st 4 года назад

      The whole me against the world album, strictly for, all eyes on me I fucking felt those albums... he was alive by the way

  • @JBsKicksNYC
    @JBsKicksNYC 4 года назад +30

    i dont care what type of mood you are in.. Tupac has a song you can listen to..

  • @kj5394
    @kj5394 4 года назад +73

    I’m sure pac was the only rapper to rap from other people’s POV. That’s a true artist. He embodied people’s experiences

    • @biggdough1
      @biggdough1 4 года назад +6

      The only other person is Scarface that's why them two are the greatest in my eyez

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 4 года назад +1

      Most ignorant statement 🥇

    • @xxJay20sxx
      @xxJay20sxx Год назад

      you don’t listen to rap if you think that 😂😂

  • @CaliCool91
    @CaliCool91 4 года назад +17

    Kudos to EDI for arguing Pac's side very well. I hate watching someone with a great point be horrible at articulating it. Very solid defense for 'Pac.

  • @TheRedman790
    @TheRedman790 4 года назад +38

    "Somebody wake me I'm dreamin
    I started as a seed of semen
    Swimmin upstream
    Planted in the womb now screamin
    On the top was my pops
    My momma screamin stop
    From a single drop this is what they got
    Not to disrespect my peoples
    But my poppa was a loser
    Only plan he had for momma was to fuck her and abuse nher
    Even as a little seed I could see his plan for me
    Stranded on welfare another broken family
    Now what was I to be?
    The product of this heated passion
    Momma got pregnant and poppa got a piece of ass
    Look how it began
    Nobody gave a fuck about me pistol in my hand
    This cruel world could do without me
    How can I survive got me asking White Jesus will a nigga live a die
    Cus the Lord can't see us in the deep dark clouds of the projects
    Ain't no sunshine
    No sunny days and we only play sometiiiimes
    When everybody sleepin
    I open my window jump to the streets and get to creepin
    I can live or die hope I get some money fo I'm gone
    I'm only nineteen and I'm tryna hustle on my own
    On this block where everybody and they pops tryna slang rocks
    Rather go to college but his is where the game stops
    Don't get it wrong cus it's always on
    From dusk to dawn
    You can buy rocks Glocks or heroin bone
    You can ask my man he's a mind reader
    I keep my 9 heater all the time
    This is how we grimey
    Then pack the cemetery and get smoked out
    Pass the weed, nigga
    That Hennessy'll get you keyed, nigga
    Everywhere I go niggas holla at me
    Keep it real g
    And my reply till they kill me
    Act up if ya feel me
    I was born not to make it but I did
    The tribulations of a ghetto kid
    Still I Rise"

    • @DreiSkins101
      @DreiSkins101 4 года назад +8

      Tupac Dedication
      ‪Tupac Shakur, Because of you my life means more‬
      ‪I now live life "Oneday At A Time", "Panther Power", "Military Mind". ‬
      ‪The "Secretz Of War" is a "Fair Exchange" for "Better Days". if it's "Thugs Mansion", then "Ghetto Heaven" is where you're lampin‬
      ‪If it's your "Resurrection", then I Picture You Rollin with "All Eyez On You"‬
      ‪whether It's L.A.,Oakland, Harlem or Soundview you‬
      ‪"Str8 Ballin" as you "Stare Through Your Rear View"‬
      ‪"Tossin It Up" but the streets Is "Death Row" but I know "Heaven Got A Ghetto"‬
      ‪And "Lord knows" you was "Heavy In The Game" you "Stayed True" from the "Cradle To The Grave"‬
      ‪Before you left you asked "How long Will They Mourn Me?"/"Bury Me A G" Is what you asked So I "Poured Out A Little Liquor" when you passed.‬
      It was "Hell For A Hustler" but "Heaven Aint Hard To Find"
      And I know the good die young so "In The Event Of My Demise"
      Let 'em know "Only God Can Judge Me" and "Still I Rise"
      IM that "Rose That Grew From Concrete", "So Holla If You Hear Me"
      Cause "I Ain't Mad At'Cha". You was a "Bad Boy Killa", "Tradin War Stories" of a "Made Nigga"
      Livin a "Thug Life" Like A "World-Wide-Mob Figga"
      An outlaw "Wanted Dead Or Alive"
      You said "Fuck The World" and "This Ain't Livin", Wow!,
      "So Many Tears"/"When Thugs Cry"
      It's "Me Against The World" and "Brenda Got Another Baby"
      And "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug", While the oldest "Get Around"/"Just Like Daddy"
      It's "krazy", "Me And My Girlfriend" livin in a "White Man'z World"
      Maybe I should write a "Letter To The President" and ask about "Changes"
      I've been "Troublesome" since '96, "Against All Odds" and caught up in the mix. At times I Wanna "Open Fire" But my "Ambitions As A Ridah", "Got My Mind Made Up". I Keep telling myself - "baby don't cry", you got to "keep your head up" " Til there's no more "pain"
      Im on my block If my homies call.
      To "live and die in L.A". Was nothing but "California love". Sippin on some "thug passion" Saying a "Hail Mary" Prayer in this fashion;
      "Dear mama", "If I die tonight", give a "letter to my unborn child". Let him know that "it aint easy" and "life goes on"
      And daddy is the "definition of a thug" nigga born
      But we the "last ones left"
      So "until the end of time" and Until my last breath
      "Smile" For Me Ya heard?
      And These are my "last Wordz".

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 4 года назад +1

      🔥 Emoji

    • @hoopin8105
      @hoopin8105 4 года назад +1

      @@DreiSkins101 dope game ...right there .... respect !

    • @DreiSkins101
      @DreiSkins101 4 года назад +3

      Appreciate that. 💯

    • @mikegillins4992
      @mikegillins4992 4 года назад +3

      Blew my mind when I first heard that had to rewind it back a few times before checking the rest of the song...been listening to hip hop since the early eighties never heard anyone break down
      There personal story in that way!!!

  • @kilocabrera1
    @kilocabrera1 4 года назад +43

    2PAC DROPPED MORE JEWELS THAN ANYBODY & DIED BY MID 20s

    • @kilocabrera1
      @kilocabrera1 4 года назад

      Christian Barrett clearly you dont know shit

    • @bkass6712
      @bkass6712 4 года назад

      Crazy🤯

  • @Twan1985
    @Twan1985 4 года назад +24

    Vlad I would love to see u do a interview with Mouse Man he was Pac's best friend from Baltimore I'm never getting tired of these 2Pac related interviews

  • @faceoff3.029
    @faceoff3.029 4 года назад +47

    Pac coud make you Feel like you are in a Movie when you Listening too his Lyriks and Rymes

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад +1

      Pac could make a dude get all wet in his seat

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Dmx made you feel more than that weak ballerina

    • @faceoff3.029
      @faceoff3.029 4 года назад

      @Lord Frieza Christ im Slipping falling cant get up...seamen everywhere haha

  • @SaintThomas410
    @SaintThomas410 4 года назад +59

    🗣All you have to do is listen to 2 Pac song called "changes" we are still going through that today. If that ain't great then i don't know what to think. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @joshuareynolds7330
      @joshuareynolds7330 4 года назад +1

      💯💯💯💯💯

    • @SaintThomas410
      @SaintThomas410 4 года назад +1

      @@joshuareynolds7330 💪🏾💯

    • @stacksdagod158
      @stacksdagod158 4 года назад

      Eminem - untouchable... Today's world issues

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад +1

      Pac had made changes into different ballet corsets asked y'all which one looks prettier on him

    • @ruben21
      @ruben21 4 года назад +1

      and pac wrote changes in 92. He wasn't even at his best then.

  • @2LITCR3W
    @2LITCR3W 4 года назад +48

    Pac is the greatest of all time I don’t care what nobody says...

    • @iamshawnwilliam
      @iamshawnwilliam 4 года назад +1

      Cap

    • @2LITCR3W
      @2LITCR3W 4 года назад +2

      Shawn William dude nobody about to entertain your internet clout chasing ✌🏾

    • @2LITCR3W
      @2LITCR3W 4 года назад +1

      Christian Barrett dude stop looking for clout going under every post spamming and writing the same thing you look mad corny...

    • @2LITCR3W
      @2LITCR3W 4 года назад +1

      Christian Barrett says the dude who commenting under everybody’s post riding 2 pac nuts hating!

  • @HiPHOPx87
    @HiPHOPx87 4 года назад +78

    Pac is The Greatest of all Time.

    • @hotboy80baby18
      @hotboy80baby18 4 года назад +5

      Period

    • @damaged2810
      @damaged2810 4 года назад +2

      @Kano Billz or Prince

    • @HiPHOPx87
      @HiPHOPx87 4 года назад +4

      @Kano Billz lol. Michael is LEGENDARY.... Why you gotta ruin the moment 😂

    • @HiPHOPx87
      @HiPHOPx87 4 года назад +2

      @@damaged2810 Prince's catalog is sick

    • @HaveOneWithHans
      @HaveOneWithHans 4 года назад +1

      Yeah man facts

  • @bobuceaschi6740
    @bobuceaschi6740 4 года назад +13

    Who wrote a better song than "Unconditional Love"? That has to be the best written song EVER

  • @Majickbeats
    @Majickbeats 4 года назад +30

    Pac even used to say "can you feel me!" in a lot of his songs

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад

      He said that for his fruity pac fanboys like you to do on him

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад +2

      So fruity of him to say such a thing....dmx would've clowned pac on the mic 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sesayh.1211
      @sesayh.1211 4 года назад +1

      Earl Simmons dmx has said a lot of sus shit

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      @@sesayh.1211 he still done more than u ever could, u a dmx hater 🤣

    • @sesayh.1211
      @sesayh.1211 4 года назад

      Earl Simmons not true. I’m a big dmx fan. Just saying don’t come for pac in that instance

  • @realestatedoru
    @realestatedoru 4 года назад +2

    As a kid when Tupac came on the verse with all that passion it hit your soul and you turned into an OUTLAW.

  • @Theyaintme_cb6
    @Theyaintme_cb6 4 года назад +27

    Imagine being told your just a ok song writer after writing songs like Changes, dear mama, and Keep ya head up 😂 we love Lord Jamar but he tripping

    • @errbodylovesme
      @errbodylovesme 4 года назад +2

      what was special about those songs? Lyrics wise. His delivery is what makes the song... not his song writing

    • @jesuschrististhelord9937
      @jesuschrististhelord9937 Год назад

      @@errbodylovesme could you change his lyrics and make the song better? Nope you can’t

  • @tboy229
    @tboy229 4 года назад +33

    Glad agree with whoever he interviews. He agreed with lord Lamar about Tupac not being a great songwriter.

    • @EmperorDraconianIV
      @EmperorDraconianIV 4 года назад +6

      He can change his mind

    • @tboy229
      @tboy229 4 года назад +5

      @@EmperorDraconianIV true but this has been consistent in alot of his interviews.

    • @joshuareynolds7330
      @joshuareynolds7330 4 года назад +2

      But thts after he learn from the nxt man so he have a change of opinion cuz he made think out the box💯💯💯💯

    • @charlescarter8299
      @charlescarter8299 4 года назад +1

      He did agree with Jamar

    • @NorthPhilly-zr7xc
      @NorthPhilly-zr7xc 4 года назад +1

      @@charlescarter8299 yea he agree whenever

  • @shawnwieber2564
    @shawnwieber2564 4 года назад +15

    Street fame, if I die tonight are really lyrical
    .

  • @chermebrownsauce
    @chermebrownsauce 4 года назад +9

    EDI is totally right!
    the foundation is the emotion, and u cant rationalize and breakdown everything on everytime, because many of the great songs of all time(regardless the genre), has really simple lyrics.
    like from poetry
    thats why its art, its all put together into the emotion of the artist, the delivery, the flow, the voice, the personality, the intensity, the pace, etc
    in hip hop history is important breakdown some things and lyrics, but ultimately is about how u feel attached to the song

  • @antsmith5956
    @antsmith5956 4 года назад +10

    There's an old saying, "you can rhyme a thousand words and not say a dam* thing."

  • @edzone6145
    @edzone6145 4 года назад +10

    If a angel comes down and takes me away memories of me and my songs will always stay until the end of time

  • @keithanderson174
    @keithanderson174 4 года назад +16

    Pac R.i.p!!! 🙏

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад

      Good riddance to that fruity tinkerbell

    • @DreiSkins101
      @DreiSkins101 4 года назад

      Tupac Dedication
      ‪Tupac Shakur, Because of you my life means more‬
      ‪I now live life "Oneday At A Time", "Panther Power", "Military Mind". ‬
      ‪The "Secretz Of War" is a "Fair Exchange" for "Better Days". if it's "Thugs Mansion", then "Ghetto Heaven" is where you're lampin‬
      ‪If it's your "Resurrection", then I Picture You Rollin with "All Eyez On You"‬
      ‪whether It's L.A.,Oakland, Harlem or Soundview you‬
      ‪"Str8 Ballin" as you "Stare Through Your Rear View"‬
      ‪"Tossin It Up" but the streets Is "Death Row" but I know "Heaven Got A Ghetto"‬
      ‪And "Lord knows" you was "Heavy In The Game" you "Stayed True" from the "Cradle To The Grave"‬
      ‪Before you left you asked "How long Will They Mourn Me?"/"Bury Me A G" Is what you asked So I "Poured Out A Little Liquor" when you passed.‬
      It was "Hell For A Hustler" but "Heaven Aint Hard To Find"
      And I know the good die young so "In The Event Of My Demise"
      Let 'em know "Only God Can Judge Me" and "Still I Rise"
      IM that "Rose That Grew From Concrete", "So Holla If You Hear Me"
      Cause "I Ain't Mad At'Cha". You was a "Bad Boy Killa", "Tradin War Stories" of a "Made Nigga"
      Livin a "Thug Life" Like A "World-Wide-Mob Figga"
      An outlaw "Wanted Dead Or Alive"
      You said "Fuck The World" and "This Ain't Livin", Wow!,
      "So Many Tears"/"When Thugs Cry"
      It's "Me Against The World" and "Brenda Got Another Baby"
      And "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug", While the oldest "Get Around"/"Just Like Daddy"
      It's "krazy", "Me And My Girlfriend" livin in a "White Man'z World"
      Maybe I should write a "Letter To The President" and ask about "Changes"
      I've been "Troublesome" since '96, "Against All Odds" and caught up in the mix. At times I Wanna "Open Fire" But my "Ambitions As A Ridah", "Got My Mind Made Up". I Keep telling myself - "baby don't cry", you got to "keep your head up" " Til there's no more "pain"
      Im on my block If my homies call.
      To "live and die in L.A". Was nothing but "California love". Sippin on some "thug passion" Saying a "Hail Mary" Prayer in this fashion;
      "Dear mama", "If I die tonight", give a "letter to my unborn child". Let him know that "it aint easy" and "life goes on"
      And daddy is the "definition of a thug" nigga born
      But we the "last ones left"
      So "until the end of time" and Until my last breath
      "Smile" For Me Ya heard?
      And These are my "last Wordz".

  • @johnhamilton2915
    @johnhamilton2915 4 года назад +24

    I don't know why people still even listening to Jamar! It's like the more he talks the more I realize he really sounds bitter and very confused!

    • @LeoGains
      @LeoGains 4 года назад +3

      John Hamilton Agreed! 👍🏾

    • @NorthPhilly-zr7xc
      @NorthPhilly-zr7xc 4 года назад +2

      I mean its jamar opinion,that could be battleble idk why vlade be starting shit

    • @cl3301
      @cl3301 4 года назад +1

      😄😄

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      He gettin paod for it unlike u broke bitter weirdo

    • @johnhamilton2915
      @johnhamilton2915 4 года назад

      @@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 ok thank you but what is paod hahaha if you gonna try and diss ppl at least get the spelling right hahaha hahaha man ya'll are so lame!

  • @abenyayapathi1083
    @abenyayapathi1083 4 года назад +29

    There's a difference between lyricism and song writing

    • @cloudyriver
      @cloudyriver 4 года назад +3

      what's your point? a song with lyrics must have a lyrical quality to it

    • @abenyayapathi1083
      @abenyayapathi1083 4 года назад

      @@cloudyriver I could be wrong but lyricism is the technical ability to rhyme and have punch lines, multi-syllable schemes, flows ECT.
      Song writing is the ability to use lyricism to write a song to an instrumental.
      So 2Pac was not one of the best lyricists but he was able to use his lyricism to create great songs and that's song writing. Maybe he's not the best song writer either but I feel like a lot of people are judging his song writing only on lyricism.

    • @cloudyriver
      @cloudyriver 4 года назад +1

      @@abenyayapathi1083 You are talking about one tradition of lyricism, the one that came from NY in the 80s and focuses on being technical with words and trying to appear better with words than another man. Rap is more diverse than that. 2pac's lyricism is more in the tradition of Melle Mel, NWA and Geto Boys. Lyricism is about evoking emotions so it's gonna be subjective either way.

  • @LndnJazzHour
    @LndnJazzHour 4 года назад +32

    Ain't no rapper could do a top ten vs against Pac, None.

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад +1

      Pac was a fruity ballerina that couldn't handle 10 bullets from baby lane 🤣🌈🧚‍♀️

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Dmx > tupac

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад

      @David Svenk even a toddler would

    • @yrntj1927
      @yrntj1927 4 года назад +1

      David Svenk nope his mother wouldn’t even recognize his ass after he felt that damn heat

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      @@yrntj1927 so he'd be like kobe bryant then? Unrecognizable but still mourned longer than tupac himself...ok then 👌

  • @LndnJazzHour
    @LndnJazzHour 4 года назад +14

    It's great Bob Marley was mentioned, another great.

  • @saintlouis1087
    @saintlouis1087 4 года назад +10

    I want those Me Against the World glasses he’s wearing

  • @Mr.Bryce504
    @Mr.Bryce504 4 года назад +7

    Even Pacs laugh adlibs made u feel good

  • @maine904
    @maine904 4 года назад +18

    E.D.I speak facts. Rest in Peace Pac.

  • @Carltonway1
    @Carltonway1 4 года назад +6

    Listen to Pac's "Aint Mad At Cha" 3rd verse RADIO VERSION. Those lyrics today still fire!

  • @planbee9915
    @planbee9915 4 года назад +11

    Changes, Death around the Corner 🔥

    • @primeminister66
      @primeminister66 4 года назад +3

      Death around the corner and So Many Tears....

  • @samw7419
    @samw7419 4 года назад +9

    Rest in heaven Tupac. There is no artist greater dead or alive!!!

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад

      There are no artists as fruity as him...then again look at lil nas x

    • @samw7419
      @samw7419 4 года назад +2

      @@2pacisgay955 damn bro lol that's your opinion.

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Dmx > 2pac until the end of time

    • @dn30001
      @dn30001 4 года назад

      Marvin Gaye

  • @kevin084life
    @kevin084life 4 года назад +2

    2Pac can turn something ordinary into something special. He wrote every lyric to every song he ever put out. Never put out a bad song. He’s definitely one of the best songwriters in hip-hop no doubt.

  • @charlescarter8299
    @charlescarter8299 4 года назад +6

    SHOUT OUT TO EDI, ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE EMCEE. I GLAD WENT ON GLAD TO LET HIM KNOW THAT PAC IS THE GREATEST SONGWRITER IN HIP HOP HISTORY AND THAT'S WITHOUT A DOUBT. MUISC IS ABOUT EMOTION HELL IT'S IN THE DEFINITION OF MUISC. PAC DID IT THE BEST AMONG HIPHOP AND HE UNDERRATED WITH HIS LYRICISM, HE WAS VERY VERSATILE WITH THAT PEN LIKE NO OTHER IN HIPHOP, ALL FACTS ! 🐐

  • @fboyd109
    @fboyd109 4 года назад +12

    Lord Jamar never wrote a noteworthy song in his life...

    • @IOENOtv
      @IOENOtv 4 года назад +1

      Slow Down

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 4 года назад +1

      Stick to top 40 radio
      You don’t know shit

  • @DaughterOfTheKing_
    @DaughterOfTheKing_ 4 года назад +22

    Tupac was a songwriter,poet,artist all in one! I will say Tupac is the greatest rapper of all time dead or alive 💯

    • @javonroberson87
      @javonroberson87 4 года назад +2

      Floyd Roberts it’s true stop trolling lol

    • @jamalbryant8099
      @jamalbryant8099 4 года назад +1

      Songwriter, poet? Sound like a lot of rappers are like that to me

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад

      Pac was a fruity ballerina that can sing and do good ballet dances on his arched feet

    • @XiomaraThaGoddessMeow
      @XiomaraThaGoddessMeow 4 года назад +1

      Kendrick could destroy Pac, but I still love them both the same.

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Dmx would even destroy fruity pac and his toy soldier outlawz 💪🔥💪🔥

  • @kristremendous4778
    @kristremendous4778 4 года назад +1

    People will always remember not what you said but how you made them feel...“Information without emotion is not retained” - Tony Robbins

  • @sixfiguretrucking
    @sixfiguretrucking 4 года назад +7

    Tupac was/is the most timeless rapper of all time for sure!

    • @2pacisgay955
      @2pacisgay955 4 года назад +2

      He was a timeless fruity ballerina 🤣🌈🧚‍♀️

  • @thekyd211
    @thekyd211 3 года назад

    I am glad that E.D.I. mean said this. I get angry when I hear people say that 2 Pac is not a great lyricist. But yet he is often quoted and I always hear rappers use his rhymes.

  • @ALisALright
    @ALisALright 4 года назад +4

    Gotta include Busta on that list of multi-syllable rap greats, he's right there on the next tier below Twista in that category.

  • @micahwest2793
    @micahwest2793 4 года назад +1

    I still listen to 2pac almost every day and i still get chills from his lyrics

  • @Pound4PoundBoxing101
    @Pound4PoundBoxing101 4 года назад +3

    Emotion is connected to the lyrical aspect 💯. Here’s a question, how do people feel about PAC’s lyrics in the midst of what is happening now in the world? I bet you feel his emotion/lyrics etc more than ever

    • @kevinburke6055
      @kevinburke6055 2 года назад

      "And they say it's the white man I should fear but it's my own kind doing all the killin here"

  • @PariahKamikaze
    @PariahKamikaze 4 года назад +2

    I'm glad that E.D.I went to bat for his homie. Everything he said is facts. Pac is quoted way more than Biggie and was far more multifaceted. I think it's just in most people's nature to not like to see a total package. It's most people's instinct to want to say, "yeah, they good at that...but they can't do this", or "they was weak at that" -- nah man. There are rare gems in this world that simply have the total package and Pac was one of them. He had the passion, the lyrics, the style -- everything.

  • @noobproaddictive3343
    @noobproaddictive3343 4 года назад +8

    PAC knew he had little time,
    Imagine if he did have the time to
    Cultivate song's the way he wanted to
    OMG!🤯/ RIP 👑PAC a 🐐

  • @frankpanacea3918
    @frankpanacea3918 4 года назад

    This is for once a very logical , thoughtful argument between Vlad and a guest on the show . EDI MEAN is very informed and thoughtful himself . Peace to you my brother . Love from Accra Gh 👍🏻👊🏻

  • @TheGobblersGetback
    @TheGobblersGetback 4 года назад +4

    2pac was of a different spirit. The great ones are. Pac, Lennon, Prince, Michael. When their songs play, any generation old or new can vibe to it, they pay attention to it. The cadence of the voice, the lyrics, it hits different than ordinary music and musicians.

  • @ejnytryta5466
    @ejnytryta5466 4 года назад +3

    I'm sooo GlAD lol he didn't let that slide and said Sky is the Limit. Great song!! Good job.

  • @antoniodaniels4879
    @antoniodaniels4879 4 года назад +9

    2pac is the Truth

    • @dmxisbetterthantupac6528
      @dmxisbetterthantupac6528 4 года назад

      Pac was a fruity lie, now dmx on the otherhand was the truth 💪💪💪

    • @Bryan-bd5kc
      @Bryan-bd5kc 4 года назад +4

      @@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 he copied pac style and pac got way more hits

  • @drebone1986
    @drebone1986 4 года назад

    Pac was so emotional that I remember before the Dear Mama and others the song that hooked me first was Brenda's Got A Baby and then Keep your Head Up, he always was emotional and very aware of what he was penning, it's not just turn up music or superspeed, he always made you feel him from the good and the bad

  • @Jarke
    @Jarke 4 года назад +5

    When you hear dear mama it makes you feel something most other songs can’t. I could really careless how fast you can rap, all that is cool to hear and be impressed by, but it doesn’t invoke any emotions.

    • @cloudyriver
      @cloudyriver 4 года назад +3

      listen to 2pac's "Something Wicked" or "Young Black Male". It's not the Bone Thugs style but he had the double-time rapping down pat.

  • @chriscooks5437
    @chriscooks5437 4 года назад

    "I Ain't Mad Atcha" always hit me in the feels!! Had me listening to it on repeat! Keep Ya Head Up, Dear Mama, love them.

  • @LeoGains
    @LeoGains 4 года назад +5

    Did not Pac include the community in his music from the very beginning?
    Are his words and stories still not relevant today?
    From Brenda’s Got a Baby:
    That’s not our problem, that’s up to Brenda’s family,
    Well, let me show you how it affects our whole community.
    White Manz World:
    Do you love me mama, Why they keep on calling me nigga?
    Get my weight up with my hate and pay them back when I’m bigger.
    Still thuggin in this jail cell missin my block,
    hearing brothers screamin all night
    wishing the stop.
    Proud to be black but why we act like we don’t LOVE OURSELVES

  • @neatthingseverywhere659
    @neatthingseverywhere659 4 года назад

    This guy is really smart with how he describes music......its emotion, all music has to touch you and make you feel.....DAMN RIGHT MY BROTHA!

  • @shortbus1127
    @shortbus1127 4 года назад +14

    Eminem just helped pass reparations for every black person in America, (Lord Jamar) "I totally disagree with reparations"

    • @quincyfrmbh2936
      @quincyfrmbh2936 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @nelsonndicomedy2195
      @nelsonndicomedy2195 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @shortbus1127
      @shortbus1127 4 года назад

      @Katarina Love I'm gangsta, I'm from the hood baby girl..... unlike Lord Jamar

    • @nelsonndicomedy2195
      @nelsonndicomedy2195 4 года назад +1

      @Katarina Love why are you mad he is right am a black man and I can see that lord jamar will criticised anything Eminem....

  • @lillion3665
    @lillion3665 4 года назад +2

    Cause in the game things change, living up and down, this hard life got me walking with my head down - 2 Pac

  • @moneykid6247
    @moneykid6247 4 года назад +5

    Pac is the best hand's down u his music resnates with you

  • @symboltherapper
    @symboltherapper 4 года назад

    Super facts...I got “if you believe than you can achieve..just look at me” tattooed on my shoulder

  • @georgethimakis4710
    @georgethimakis4710 4 года назад +5

    Everyone just always sleeping on Krayzie Bone and im talking about as a solo artist then add his Bone Thugz work to that come on give the man credit

    • @georgethimakis4710
      @georgethimakis4710 4 года назад

      @@ghostjason401 thank you ppl really sleep on this man's music catalog alot of his songs has a epic feel and sound to them plus his versatility is just off the charts its good to see ppl out there that get this

  • @MrPhustle1
    @MrPhustle1 4 года назад +2

    Happy Father's day to all the real Father's out there 💯🚫🧢

  • @THUG_LIFE4LIFE
    @THUG_LIFE4LIFE 4 года назад +6

    People forget that biggie got all his ideas from 2pac. Biggie went from "party & bullshit" to "ready to die". Biggie learned everything from pac. Facts

  • @JoniMagallanes78
    @JoniMagallanes78 4 года назад +1

    Just Heard Skys the limit because EDI Mean said it wAs Cool! Im from 1978 and have HEARD ALL of PACS JAMS!! IM SOUTHERN CALI BORN & RAISED!!! NOT A BIGGIE FAN HAVEN'T HEARD HIS MUSIC PURPOSEFULLY PER PAC 1994!!! SKYS THE LIMIT IS ALRIGHT, ITS NO BURY ME A G!!! T.I.P PAC!!!💛💜💛🙏✌🥃

  • @godlymadebullyzkennel6634
    @godlymadebullyzkennel6634 4 года назад +7

    2Pac is the GOAT!!! End of discussion

  • @DThornDigital
    @DThornDigital 4 года назад +1

    The Narrative that pac isn't considered a lyricists/songwriter is laughable. He is one of the best songwriters and versatile artist in music history.

    • @immaculatemal1379
      @immaculatemal1379 4 года назад +1

      Dumb narrative mainly by eastcost/NY style of rap

  • @Khaos969
    @Khaos969 4 года назад +3

    2pac is the greatest writer off all time , dear mama ? all eyes on me , this aint living, etc that lord jamar on crack

  • @judon4908
    @judon4908 4 года назад +1

    This what I been saying. You feel 2pac more than anybody ever in rap and greatness in artistry, no matter what the art form, is how well the audience connects to the art. That's why 2pac is the G.O.A.T.

  • @WesideRecside
    @WesideRecside 4 года назад +6

    Guess vlad forget biggie actually sang on a record..used west coast beats even had a reggae record..so much for staying in one lane..vlad you need better researchers cause some statements you make are just outrageous

    • @King-ns6dw
      @King-ns6dw 4 года назад

      Well said

    • @Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach
      @Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach 4 года назад

      Agreed Vlad a Biggie hater! Big got bars & emotion not ONLY emotion.

    • @King-ns6dw
      @King-ns6dw 4 года назад

      @TheOne111 he did swtich it up from time to time, the whole ready to die is soooo different to life after death. 2pac smashed it, but wen he made thos types of songs wiv a message behind it that was 2pac at his best when he started making songs like toss it up and how you want it for me it didn't work

  • @lets_play_a_game268
    @lets_play_a_game268 4 года назад

    2:43 That Pac & Bone Thugs song still gives me chills to this day. Pac came in hard on that track, you can feel his pain and passion.💯💯

  • @myishablackdeities9335
    @myishablackdeities9335 4 года назад +17

    Tupac is the greatest Songwriter/ Rapp! Lord Jamar is washed up!

  • @williebrown7984
    @williebrown7984 4 года назад

    I give it to 2pac for rap. He touched on so many different levels that is still relevant today. It is still sad that he is gone. 2pac music will still be relevant 100yrs or more. RIP to Afeni Shakur and Tupac 👍🏾🙏🏾

  • @civiliantv7906
    @civiliantv7906 4 года назад +4

    Tupac is not the greatest songwriter. But he is the greatest rapper of all time

    • @civiliantv7906
      @civiliantv7906 4 года назад

      @Kenny Lafortune I wouldn't say better. But they definitely can hold they on

    • @civiliantv7906
      @civiliantv7906 4 года назад

      @Kenny Lafortune not really just your opinion

    • @runelarsen8521
      @runelarsen8521 4 года назад

      @Kenny Lafortune thats your opinion, mine is that Pac is the greatest ever, and thats how it works.

    • @runelarsen8521
      @runelarsen8521 4 года назад

      @Kenny Lafortune that you put Jay'sname in your mouth at the same time with Pac, just shows how ignorant you are, Jay-Z is a fake azz clown Who had dine nothing for No one and his music is garage, and as a person he is even worse.

    • @runelarsen8521
      @runelarsen8521 4 года назад

      @Kenny Lafortune you do know that Jay was a bitch when Pac was Alice, he didnt even had the balls to do shows in LA/California he was scared of Pac, cuz he was shooked and a little bitch.

  • @BabsW
    @BabsW 4 года назад +1

    Correction: Biggie also had "Miss U" on his 2nd album featuring 112.

  • @TheWizzade10
    @TheWizzade10 4 года назад +1

    Just had this conversation yesterday. Overall, PAC is the greatest ever because of his versatility in subject matter. He touched on everything and excelled at it. Not many, if any can say that. He covered many lanes...you could say he had multiple personalities...

  • @joepg1608
    @joepg1608 4 года назад +1

    Pac was my favorite rapper of all time but not in my top 10 as a lyricist. His song writing ability was phenomenal. His music was definitely something you feel.

    • @dn30001
      @dn30001 4 года назад

      Being so objective like yourself is so underrated

  • @iLLestTv
    @iLLestTv 4 года назад

    If yall watch Dear Momma, TK Kirkland was in the back of the video at 1:13

  • @rolliemosley
    @rolliemosley 4 года назад +1

    "They say I'm wrong and I'm heartless, but all along, I was looking for a father, he was gone" - Dear Moma.

  • @lloydthasage9261
    @lloydthasage9261 4 года назад +2

    listening to (until the end of time) alone let you know how great of a song writer he was

  • @elgoofo10s_53
    @elgoofo10s_53 4 года назад

    Thank you E. D for coming thru and shuttin that bullshit down

  • @LuckyBide
    @LuckyBide 4 года назад +1

    I think 2Pac is the best. One important thing some people don't seem to take into account when they compare songwriters is the fact that he only was 25 (and even way younger) when he wrote all those powerful lyrics. No one at that age can compare to Pac.

  • @user-fz9hz7eh3v
    @user-fz9hz7eh3v 4 года назад +1

    🏅🌅Tupac's voice alone is Untouchable🌅🏅

  • @LiLCristy0202
    @LiLCristy0202 4 года назад +1

    Hes the best lyrical ... And still he is 2020 no one has lyrics like him unique one of kind

  • @gemb7986
    @gemb7986 4 года назад

    The vibe and the feeling I get from his music. It’s like he’s speaking to me.

  • @d-money314
    @d-money314 4 года назад +2

    Pac lyrics would make anybody feel something

  • @dominicbrogsdale3348
    @dominicbrogsdale3348 4 года назад

    " PAC rhymed from the pit of his stomach, pouring those words out because he meant it!!!" - Shock G
    " Pac used his platform to make people feel good and help people get through the day!!" - also Shock G
    " there where points where we where experiencing the difference between a regular rapper and a LEGEND! and whatever reasons Pac's decision's MAD HIM A LEGEND!!!" - 2pac's brother Mopreme
    " people felt the LOVE that came from 2pac, they felt the PASSION in his lyrics, they felt his ability to identify with them!!! But he had a HEART that was huger than any!!" Micheal Eric Dyson on 2pac

  • @DaGrimmOneOfficial
    @DaGrimmOneOfficial 4 года назад +1

    Comparing singers to rappers is kinda bizarre cause singers don't focus on lyrical ability but melodies and emotions.

  • @DreiSkins101
    @DreiSkins101 4 года назад +2

    A Tupac Dedication
    ‪Tupac Shakur, Because of you my life means more‬
    ‪I now live life "Oneday At A Time", "Panther Power", "Military Mind". ‬
    ‪The "Secretz Of War" is a "Fair Exchange" for "Better Days". if it's "Thugs Mansion", then "Ghetto Heaven" is where you're lampin‬
    ‪If it's your "Resurrection", then I Picture You Rollin with "All Eyez On You"‬
    ‪whether It's L.A.,Oakland, Harlem or Soundview you‬
    ‪"Str8 Ballin" as you "Stare Through Your Rear View"‬
    ‪"Tossin It Up" but the streets Is "Death Row" but I know "Heaven Got A Ghetto"‬
    ‪And "Lord knows" you was "Heavy In The Game" you "Stayed True" from the "Cradle To The Grave"‬
    ‪Before you left you asked "How long Will They Mourn Me?"/"Bury Me A G" Is what you asked So I "Poured Out A Little Liquor" when you passed.‬
    It was "Hell For A Hustler" but "Heaven Aint Hard To Find"
    And I know the good die young so "In The Event Of My Demise"
    Let 'em know "Only God Can Judge Me" and "Still I Rise"
    IM that "Rose That Grew From Concrete", "So Holla If You Hear Me"
    Cause "I Ain't Mad At'Cha". You was a "Bad Boy Killa", "Tradin War Stories" of a "Made Nigga"
    Livin a "Thug Life" Like A "World-Wide-Mob Figga"
    An outlaw "Wanted Dead Or Alive"
    You said "Fuck The World" and "This Ain't Livin", Wow!,
    "So Many Tears"/"When Thugs Cry"
    It's "Me Against The World" and "Brenda Got Another Baby"
    And "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug", While the oldest "Get Around"/"Just Like Daddy"
    It's "krazy", "Me And My Girlfriend" livin in a "White Man'z World"
    Maybe I should write a "Letter To The President" and ask about "Changes"
    I've been "Troublesome" since '96, "Against All Odds" and caught up in the mix. At times I Wanna "Open Fire" But my "Ambitions As A Ridah", "Got My Mind Made Up". I Keep telling myself - "baby don't cry", you got to "keep your head up" " Til there's no more "pain"
    Im on my block If my homies call.
    To "live and die in L.A". Was nothing but "California love". Sippin on some "thug passion" Saying a "Hail Mary" Prayer in this fashion;
    "Dear mama", "If I die tonight", give a "letter to my unborn child". Let him know that "it aint easy" and "life goes on"
    And daddy is the "definition of a thug" nigga born
    But we the "last ones left"
    So "until the end of time" and Until my last breath
    "Smile" For Me Ya heard?
    And These are my "last Wordz".

  • @kenjistanback9261
    @kenjistanback9261 4 года назад +2

    The best songs are the ones with emotion, that's why 2Pac music gonna be around forever. It resonates with everything going on in Society, so who cares if Lord Jamar doesn't agree 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @MindofIvry365
    @MindofIvry365 4 года назад

    Some rappers just can’t get rid of them 90’s feelings they had but try hard to be balance in their opinion. You can disagree anybody on anything but just make sure it’s coming out of a place of honesty and not envy.

  • @tekfury2690
    @tekfury2690 4 года назад

    He's exactly right, I still feel him when I listen to him till this day.

  • @bombay3201
    @bombay3201 2 года назад +1

    Tupac range was sick!

  • @yeon723
    @yeon723 3 года назад

    When you can make wholesome song like "Dear Mama" and something gangster like "Hit em up" that's just pure skills.

  • @pernellhaynesworth1212
    @pernellhaynesworth1212 4 года назад +2

    Tupac is the Greatest Ever🙏🏾💯✊🏿✊🏼

  • @LetsHipHopTheCulture
    @LetsHipHopTheCulture 4 года назад

    That Dear Mama and Hit 'Em Up Comment was Great! That's All we Needed to Hear.. Who Does That?!

  • @bombay3201
    @bombay3201 2 года назад +1

    Pac was one of the only rappers who could write on all emotions! And lyrics? Pac cant me fucked with!