BEST PCIe NVMe Adaptor Card Glotrends m.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 PA09-HS
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BEST PCIe NVMe adaptor Card Glotrends m.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 PA09-HS
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GLOTRENDS M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0/3.0 Adapter with 0.12 Inch Thick M.2 Heatsink for M.2 PCIe SSD (NVMe and AHCI), PCI-E GEN4 Full Speed, Desktop PC Installation (PA09-HS)
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Hi, Mike. That’s a nice M.2 adaptor card. I'm still quite happy with my Sabrent version. I have a 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus mounted on it, and I keep it cool with a Corsair Hydro X Series XM2 M.2 SSD water block. I know I said wasn’t a fan of Corsair, but it was the best looking M.2 water block.
that is a nice looking block, you are not wrong there
And here I was looking for a solution for my SN850 2TB that I bought last week and didn't fit in my build (the heatsink version doesn't fit under my GPU) and... Mike to the rescue!
I'm just about to order one of these with your affiliate link, I do hope you keep up your awesome work.
appreciated
Excellent idea for increasing storage and bargain price! Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍
thanks Nick have a great day
Never mind components on the back, I could see those clips scraping through the solder resist to the tracks on the back, unless that have any kind of insulating liner
yes i feel more comfortable with the silicon bands myself
Funny about to buy one or two of these as got 4 M.2 drives cheap 2nd hand. Timely review for me 😄
Glad the timing was good :-)
Interesting Mike. I also found other alternatives this way so good to see this kind of products and indeed really cheap.
For sure!
To be honest most mother boards Have several NVme M.2 Slots nowa Days but i see it being usefull in some instances
yea my mobo only has 4 sata ports and one m.2 slot, so i can extend my storage down the m.2 route with this bad boy
This takes the hassle out of things as you can try one card that's only occasionally detected until you restart the machine, then left wondering which one is reliable.
These are great. I have a couple to hand (gen 4 & gen 3). There is a gen 3 card on the forest for £6.99 too . Cheers
these are becoming more and more useful with modern NVME drives being the same or cheaper than sata based m.2
Always good to have one of these in the old toolkit should you need to clone or back up a drive onto an M.2. With it being Gen 4 might be worth leaving it in your mobo and use it as a boot drive should it need it. At this price Id rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Thanks for the review, Mike and Kath. Appreciated as always :-)
i must try and find out if these are actually bootable
@@mikesunboxing The one I have is :-) I think this one will be too.
Good review Mike.l like the way you explain things in plain language and not technical terms so numpties like me can understand what’s what 👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
well i have been married a long time 😂
@@mikesunboxing 😂😂So was l;45yrs 😀
Nice way to pep up a bugdet pc 👍
Worthy of Support comment 🙂
Indeed it is! a very handy device for those with m.2 drives and no where to put it
@@mikesunboxing I think it's even perfect to install games on it. & M.2's are going down in prices too. 🙂
Very good video, congratulations !!!
Is it posible to use, utilize or take advantage of all the 16 trails of a PCIe X 16 port ?
I ask because most adapter like the one of your video are only X 4 so that use only 4 of the 16 trails which are available in a PCIe X 16. I think that that is a considerable waste of resources which brings not desiderable consecuences !!!
If your mobo has PCIe 3 or 4, well ... maybe that´s not an important isue.
But if you have an old model which only has PCIe 1 or at most PCIe 2 then there is a big difference in using only 4 trails and to be able to use 16 trails !!!
Can you give me any hint on that ?
Thank you in advance for your answer !!!
Blessings !!!
so far there are not any mainstream nvme drives that use more than 4 lanes so for a single drive card that is more than enough
@@mikesunboxing Thank you very much for your quick and kind answer !!! Blessings !!!
Those red led's - ✋
Exactly what I was looking for. thx
At least it has a standard screw for mounting, as opposed to that weird "notched" puck design. I'm still trying to source one of those as I'm missing one. But no idea what you call it.
yeah the notched puck is a real puck up
@@mikesunboxing badum tsh
Handy piece of kit !
Thanks for watching. peter :-)
Great video thanks Mike.
Thanks for watching, Paul :-)
I wouldn't be using those metal clips. They would result in impedance bumps which could cause problems. My el cheapo card sits at 40C without a heat sink and gets around 3GHz read speed.
Thanks for the info m8, I didn't know such a thing existed. I'll be able to make my dinosaur run even faster. 🙂
Can I install OS on it? I mena can I install OS on the ssd that is on the adapter.
if the motherboard supports it
@@mikesunboxing thanks for the reply. Do I need to install certain drivers?
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10:33 i didnt even know you could use these on pcie 16x :D
Now, motherboard just need more pcie 4x and up slots. 1x slots are slowly becoming irrelevant imho...
agreed
them metal clips could maybe scratch the m.2 board on the back maybe the rubber bands are to go under the clips?
no the clips are really tight the rubber would be too wide and the clips would not go over the band and drive, but good thinking
Couldn't find one that is pcie 4.0, this cheap and with a heatsink.
I'm highly debated on it because of the bare metal bracket, rather than anodised or painted. My only complain since asthetics is very important for me, I blame OCD.
very nice and cheap till u ad on postage then it £15 still a good adapter cheers
free postage with prime if you have it
Mike, I have a question, I've got Asrock Z87 Extreme4, 3 pcie slots, 1st is used for GPU pcie x16, if I put adapter to 2nd slot GPU slot will be reduced to x8? If yes what happen if I would put adapter to 3rd slot?
I guess in SLI with 3 graphic card there is x8 x8 x4, with two x8 x8 but if I put to third slot adapter there will be x12 for GPU and x4 for M.2? Or it even would not affect first slot GPU speed?
not too sure i never got to grips with that generation intel stuff
I just purchased this adapter for my 2TB Firecuda 530 and the adapter itself has excellent built, but the heat sink is beyond very poorly design in both aspects, aesthetically and how it performs I very much dislike the rubber bands and clips, they are hideous.
Running CrystalDiskMark test in very well ventilated case my Firecuda without the heat sink have reached 59CC, with the heat sink 57C-58C, very poor. I have tried another adapter with slightly larger and better mounted heat sink and MAX temp was 46C which is a big difference, but I didn't like that there was no bracket, it wasn't very sturdy so I returned both.
If they made a slightly larger heat sink with better mounting e.g. maybe 4 small screws at the back and also If they made the bright red light to go on only when drive is in operation, this adapter would be top notch.
Thanks
thanks for the feedback Brian
Caution! The metal clips are touching the printed circuit board. The plastic loops are there to stop contact.
thanks
does anyone know what it means when the red led flashes? normally it only glows but now it flashes ?!?
it will flash when data is going through it
@@mikesunboxing the led has been flashing for an hour, although nothing is actually happening, I deleted about 170 gb of data before that and it hasn't stopped flashing since then :D, thanks for your answer ;)
and thank you for this video, you convinced me and I bought this adapter and I have no regrets, this adapter is really good ;)
Useful piece of kit! Though I dislike the fixing mechanism of the included M.2 cooler. Would a different cooler, like the Be Quiet MC1 PRO fit on this adapter?
looks like it should
Sadly my b450m pro 4 only has two pcie 3.0 slots. One is for my gpu and the other is the pcie nvme slot. Sad to see the adapter/drive not fully utilized but at least I have more storage at decent speeds.
I want to ask you about the second PCIE 2.0 x16 slot
if i fit this adapter in it
it will affect the first slot for the GPU? (PCIE 3.0 x16)
I have
B450m steel legend
R5 5600x
RTX 3060ti
nvme m.2 connect to (The Ultra M.2 Socket)
The PCIE slots is:
1 PCIE 2.0 X1 (Empty)
2 PCIE 3.0 x16 (GPU)
3 PCIE 2.0 x16 (Empty) <
it will work or i have to change pcie mode in the motherboard to 8x/8x ?
@@o0o_ghost it will give you pcie 2.0 speeds with the adapter so half the speed of 3.0
@@TheNewBloodDan No problem, 2GB/s is too enough for me
But I'm afraid that i need to decrease the GPU lanes to make this adapter work at PCIE 2.0 x4 in PCIE 2.0 x16 slot
like changing the mode from x16 to x8/x8 in the Bios settings to make this adapter work
@@o0o_ghost oof
@@TheNewBloodDan what?
Mike..i hope this works with my very old Mobo (msi Z77A-G43) i am having 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slot
it supports up to PCIe 2.0 x4 speed ... well thru my search and calculation.... the transfer speed will be doubled from 6Gb/s (SSD SATA 3) to 16Gb/s using this adapter..... let me know before i ship the adapter to my address.
sounds okay to me, but no guarantees
@@mikesunboxing is there anyway to upgrade this gen 2 speed to gen 3 other than buying a new mobo? im an old boomer mid 80s time .. btw im still using windows 7...man im used to stick with things thru long usage and have low chance to just thinking to upgrade my stuff :)
Hi Mike - Great vid, thx! Ive run into an issue. Wonder if you have a comment? My Dell XPS8910 desktop was OEM setup using RAID. I don't use any RAID features but Ive tried two of these style cards and they are not working properly. The SSD drive is not visible anywhere. Not via Disk Mgmt, Device Mgr, or Windows Explorer. However, BIOS is seeing the SSD card details which is in the card. I am thinking that the BIOS needs to be changed to AHCI. I think the RAID settings are not letting the card pass the info properly. Any thoughts? Thx DD
yes it won't support the systems software / hardware raid and AHCI should sort that
Just came into this. I brought an Asus Hyper not doing what I was getting myself into. Returning that, and came into this video and product. Do they by chance make a quad version of this? I'm sure I'll find out shortly, but I'm hoping the installation is similar to this as it being a plug and play sort of thing.
the trouble is the more drives the PCIe lanes it needs so either the drives get less bandwidth or you get more drives
Is there a special type of NVMe m.2 drive that goes into this card? If not, why not plug it straight into the motherboard? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but I don't understand why some m.2 drives are NVMe and others are NVMe PCIe. Thank you very much.
some motherboards don't have enough m.2 slots so this gives those boards extra ports
Very helpful, thanks. I got the PA21 version which holds two different M.2 drives. It only seems to "see" one drive though so it seems my motherboard (Gigabyte X570) does not support PCI splitting?
yes the advert for that is a little confusing but it seems the motherboard nust support bifurcation of the PCIe bus
Just installed this with my msi b550 gaming plus (which looks like you have the same board) with gpu and both the standard m.2 slots filled. Computer doesn't seem to be reading this adapter. I'm assuming maybe not enough bandwidth with a gpu + 2 m.2 nvme ssds in there already? (trying to add a 3rd nvme with this adapter)
yeah the second m.2 is probably using the lanes
What do you think about the issue that this adapter blocks the airflow from the graphics card? :)
it doesn't block it much as it is quite narrow, if you are concerned use a lower slot or a PCIe extension cable to move it lower
best my foot bought it the bios didn't recognized itv but it installed the linux mint 21 from a 3.0 USB flash in the M2 from the card with a 1tb crucial m2 mvme on a Pcie 4x on an asus montherboard hero VI mobo in use a 500 tb WD black instead to run Linux worst fine. I will trough this card away in the trash .
sorry to hear that
Do you have an Affiliate link for a dual M.2 NVME PCIe card that you like?
this might fit the bill From : (affiliate links)
www.amazon.co.uk/GLOTRENDS-Bifurcation-Motherboard-Threadripper-PA21/dp/B09PGDMWKH?ref_=ast_sto_dp&tag=mikesunboxi0f-20
@@mikesunboxing Cheers, ordered.
I wonder if there is a way to turn off the LED light, it's very annoying.
i used a small piece of black electrical tape cut to size, works great
@@mikesunboxing Good idea I've done that before myself. Thanks.
pci x1 slot in speed very low 500mhz... but pci x16 slot speed normal ..2000mhz
The screw that was already there is stuck and won’t come out even with a magnetic screwdriver what do I do?
post a pic of it in our discord and i'll have a look
Hi, I bought it and installed it but from 'speccy' it doesn't tell me the temperature of the SSD. Do you have any solution? Thank you
use hwmonitor maybe? or crystal disk?
I have both programs: hwmonitor always gives me the same temperature 27 and crystal disk records the reading speed which is 22000: how is the temperature displayed?
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Do M2 drives with Pre-Installed heatsinks fit on this adapter? Can I still install them the proper way?
yes you can
The whole reason for buying a pcie gen 4 adapter is to be able to use a gen 4 M.2 on it at gen 4 speeds. So, this product IS NOT capable of running pcie gen 4 speeds? If it was, why wouldn't you showcase a gen 4 m.2 and show THOSE Crystal Disk figures, instead of a gen 3 m.2.?
because i had a gen 3 drive. Also the reason for a gen 4 card could be for a bit of future proofing
@@mikesunboxing I suspected as much. It is useless to those that have a PCIe gen 4 system if it's only capable of gen 3 speeds. That's what I was hoping to find out with your video.
Precisely the reason why I bought mine; my motherboard PRIME Z590-A has 3 M2 slots, only one of them capable of gen 4.0 speed, other 2 are just gen 3.0. Gen 4 capable disk runs twice the speed that is over 7000 MB/s. Also Gen 4 capable disk in this adapter runs only around 3500 MB/s. Disappointing. I put it in x4 slot. Is there a setting in BIOS of mobo? any additional driver?
EDIT: mounted in 2nd PCIe x16 works 6700 MB/s, gen 4.0 speed = OK
is a m.2 drive better than sata drives?
m.2 nvme is much faster than m.2 sata or regular sata drives
@@mikesunboxing cool thanks.
@@lexismcbane7069 No problem :-)
It doesn't work. When I boot, I get a blue screen.
are you using it as a boot device or an additional m.2 port
@@mikesunboxing The latter - not a boot drive. MSI® X299M GAMING PRO CARBON AC motherboard. I'm vey disappointed.
@@CockpitScenes what is the blue screen? and are you putting it into a suitable port
@@mikesunboxing CRITICAL SERVIVE FAILED. PCIe 3.0 x8/ x4 is the slot description. I tried a different brand expansion board also - same result.
could you run the os on an ssd mounted with this adapter?
only if the motherboard supports it
Pls reply i have h110 m -s2 lga 1151 ddr4 ( gigabyte mother board supports 6th generation processor
Supports 1* pcie 3*16
Pls reply it helps a lot
Can i put nvme with adapter support?
Or better to go for ssd dram
you can use this if you are not already using the slot for a graphics card
Installed and not showing in bios. Only one PCIEx4 slot
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Installed and not showing up in Windows...?
did you try the other PCIe slots?
Will doing this throttle a high end gpu if it takes up pcie lanes?
it will depend on the board you are using, a lot of boards share lanes in different ways and also your CPU will also come into play depending on what amount and type of lanes it has available
Depends on the CPU. Most Desktops CPU's have 16 pcie lanes, Higher end CPU's have 28 to 40 pcie lanes (Intel X99,X299), Amd threadripper have a lot more. As mentioned, The PCH will mess with the allocation On some motherboards.
Kam boš dal pa grfično če ima PC samo eno picie expres.
yes that will definitely be a problem. Maybe an external USB enclosure might be a better choice if space is limited
Maybe you should remove sticker before you apply thermal pad ?
the sticker is actually a small metal heatsink
Installation?
sorry about that but the installing the card is pretty easy
What does it even do?
adds another m.2 port to a computer
Has anyone tried any dual nvme PCI-E x1 version to this that does not require a Sata Port? (I don't care about speed lost btw)
not me sorry
My god why cant any electronic part be made in USA, wth are we to stupid.
no the exact opposite, you are able to produce great stuff, but sadly the politics gets in the way, China's economic boom era was funded and fueled by the US and has ever since been a source of anger and a reason to be suspicious of China and their capabilities, despite the fact "we" created the so called bogey man
I have and old mobo (scocket1366) and am i trying to install windows 10 in expansion card with NVME M2 2TB.
I received message that "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure That the disk controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu"
Can i bypass this using WinNTsetup 5.2 ?
some boards won't support add in cards as a bootable drive, maybe look at updating the motherboard bios if possible