Im so happy for nemesis for getting out of his shell, like when he plays for fanatic and had commercial, he doesnt talk much and just show his 1plus phone, but now he talks a lot and laugh, now i want to watch him competitively cause communicafion skill drastically improve Good luck on future endeavor nemesis🤘🤘
nemesis has always been one of the most knowledgeable players in the world, and he has improved significantly since that 2020 series, I truly do hope he returns to pro play to add some holiness to worlds mid laners
Veigar with GLP and Twin Shadows back then was a fking menace. Cheap asf items that gives insane utility, stats, and damage not to mention, you can TP as long as there's a minion or a ward so you can roam all over the map easily. 2019 was the most chaotic but the most fun and balanced meta imo.
Great explanations! I lost the veigar-ahri matchup recently because she just jumped out of my cage a couple of times, and indeed the early levels are kinda rough
A question whats the reasoning behind cookies over futures?, being veigar a champ that gets considerably strong with items shouldnt futures be better than 3 mini pots and a bit of mana considering we start with tear?
Why everfrost > ROA? Do you think everfrost is better than ROA on adc veigar too if the opponents have a lot of melees or if you're rlly fed for early spike?
You typically run everfrost over ROA because the slow and stun is just significantly better than the stat benefits. Plenty of comboes like everfrost into cage, everfrost into w and q. Into melee matchups I would still recommend it since you can delete most ADCs if they arent careful because you can land an easy W onto them with everfrost, which usually leads to instant death.
im recently watch nemesis, and i saw his ingame kinda interesting that its font is like Korean server do anyone know how to set ingame font like him? thanks
I play Veigar in master tier and I don't get how I am supposed to have 9-10cs per minute like you, but also pressure the map at the same time. Either I play very conservative with 8-10 cs per minute and my team will just lose because the enemy midlaner snowballed the fuck out of the game, or I play for early skirmishes and perma roam, but then my cs is hovering somewhere around 6-7cs per minute.
Try to prepare a slow push in anticipation of drake or herald fights so that when they break out you get the bounce back after the fight,also master tier games are way more chaotic so its impossible to be in every fight,just play ultra selfish until gm then try to be more active on the map.
@@Kevin-fl7mj Thank you! I've heard of this strategy, that you can slow push 1 minute in advance of a drake fight, but I guess I never really tried it out. Makes sense.
W also has an insane AP ratio so becuase of his free AP from passive the base damage doesn't matter much at all. E is also one of the most broken basic abilities in the game so getting that up more often means more consistent damage from W anyway.
I thought veigar takes electrocute, why do you take first strike here? I don't play veigar but when I do, I much prefer the domination tree to inspiration
Domination gives a lot of damage veigar already has. Electrocute helps early, and ingenious hunter pairs well with everfrost, but the free boots, extra gold, and sustain and mana from biscuits makes early to mid game far easier. Makes scaling a lot easier as well.
depends on the game.. elec gives more damage and actually scales pretty well for veigar specifically but theres no point going for a rune giving you more dmg when you already have enough. Youd go elec in games where u expect a lot of fighing to happen, like if mid/ jungle is veigar/J4 vs Lee/Yasuo. First strike is pretty much just better in games where you dont need extra dmg or theres not too much happening in lane. If youre playing Veigar vs Malzahar or something youre not gonna ever really fight him so much rather go for scaling/extra gold.
the nerfs really aren't that big compared to the range he got they just made him worst into matchups you already shldnt pick veigar into like zed which is good balacing imo
I used veigar to get to diamond 1 all the way from gold 3 but i played him full tank because i thought it was funny getting ap while being tanky it worked out good
The reason I'll always love you is i watched you play kayle in utter schock how much farm u had , just to try her after nd get my first penta kill. Blame you for it ❤
Thank you nemesis for teaching me veigar!! i was plat 2 and after watching i climbed to gold 3!! THANKS AGAIN
Hahahahahaha. Epic
Remember kids. Climbing down a tree is still climbing!
FPX vs FNC incident 💀
Legit think you’ve improved way more than everyone else since then
nemesis gameplay is soo chill
Nemesis with the S tier live self analysis and gameplay, I always love watching your veigar methodically stomping around the rift.
Im so happy for nemesis for getting out of his shell, like when he plays for fanatic and had commercial, he doesnt talk much and just show his 1plus phone, but now he talks a lot and laugh, now i want to watch him competitively cause communicafion skill drastically improve
Good luck on future endeavor nemesis🤘🤘
he did this back than as well with oskar rekkles or pete, but not on camera. thats what changed. the on camera thing.
nemesis has always been one of the most knowledgeable players in the world, and he has improved significantly since that 2020 series, I truly do hope he returns to pro play to add some holiness to worlds mid laners
YES !! I WAS JUST WATCHING NEMESIS OLD VIDEOS LETS GOO
Good vid. Really good commentary.
ya and I don't get why people pay 350 for trivial coaching from someone
Nemesis is Veigar v3
Volvió el enano en un video, agradecida con mi jugador favorito por traer a Veigar de vuelta
Me hubiera encantado que ganaran esa serie contra TES... Mi corazon no ha cerrado esa herida :'(
thanks for the teaching master nemesis
I get the vibe you’re going to start playing competitively again. Call it a gut feeling.
Would be huge
Would be huge, but seriously seems unlikely at this point.
I was P4 last season and now after watching you I'm steamrolling through plat like butter and probably gonna be diamond soon
When do you pref ROD over Everfrost? :)
scaling game > rod better
@@Nemesis_lol Thanks :) really enjoed veigar lately, super strong
Really good commentary on this one!
Seeing go back to pro play would actually make it fun to watch
Definitely not easy. You make it easy! Thanks neme
clicking on this video seeing my fav midlaner and streamer on the left chillin warms my heart - and also yeah the guy on right kinda cute
What would you rate your oldworlds self solo q wise? What rank would they get in korea now?
The cat cam is soooo cute, it looks so peaceful :)
when to build everfrost when roa?
I love the cat cam
😺
Nemesis clicking is so satisfying
I see you built Everfrost, is there any situations where crown/ROA would be preferred?
Veigar with GLP and Twin Shadows back then was a fking menace. Cheap asf items that gives insane utility, stats, and damage not to mention, you can TP as long as there's a minion or a ward so you can roam all over the map easily. 2019 was the most chaotic but the most fun and balanced meta imo.
Great explanations! I lost the veigar-ahri matchup recently because she just jumped out of my cage a couple of times, and indeed the early levels are kinda rough
Is this pre-nerf and do you think it's still good to put the time in into veigar?
A question whats the reasoning behind cookies over futures?, being veigar a champ that gets considerably strong with items shouldnt futures be better than 3 mini pots and a bit of mana considering we start with tear?
Great gameplay Neme! What do you think about LCK players taking attack speed on runes? and about building RoA instead of Everfrost?
can someone explain why he buys the tear starting item but sits on it max stacks till 3rd item
Question, how does his game font look like that?
12:01 I didn't realise rabadons also applies to passive stacks aswell
Honestly same
insane plays, this is must watch league
why no longer predator on veigar?
banger veigar
U build everfrost cause u play vs ahri or u always build it instead of roa?^^
Veigar so broken! The e cage spam at the end is too much 😂
I do use my E so i can stack wave Just before turret so i can stack maybe 2 more minions.. uselsss or maybe good ?
Why everfrost > ROA? Do you think everfrost is better than ROA on adc veigar too if the opponents have a lot of melees or if you're rlly fed for early spike?
You typically run everfrost over ROA because the slow and stun is just significantly better than the stat benefits. Plenty of comboes like everfrost into cage, everfrost into w and q. Into melee matchups I would still recommend it since you can delete most ADCs if they arent careful because you can land an easy W onto them with everfrost, which usually leads to instant death.
theres another comment with a similar question that nemesis answered personally if u want to check that out
@@syphon_beanoyt4545 thx a lot
wait ure actually playing on lowest setting?
Does that help at all?
I know pros in csgo do it for max fps but in league?
im recently watch nemesis, and i saw his ingame kinda interesting that its font is like Korean server
do anyone know how to set ingame font like him? thanks
Real talk,.. the Ahri played pretty well all things considered. And that Wukong played bodygaurd like a champ.
Ye she just got outscaled at 10min
Why does everyone use the shamrock skin?
Pay2win (the e has less clarity when it first comes out)
I play Veigar in master tier and I don't get how I am supposed to have 9-10cs per minute like you, but also pressure the map at the same time.
Either I play very conservative with 8-10 cs per minute and my team will just lose because the enemy midlaner snowballed the fuck out of the game, or I play for early skirmishes and perma roam, but then my cs is hovering somewhere around 6-7cs per minute.
Try to prepare a slow push in anticipation of drake or herald fights so that when they break out you get the bounce back after the fight,also master tier games are way more chaotic so its impossible to be in every fight,just play ultra selfish until gm then try to be more active on the map.
@@Kevin-fl7mj Thank you!
I've heard of this strategy, that you can slow push 1 minute in advance of a drake fight, but I guess I never really tried it out.
Makes sense.
i cant wait for the i will teach you vel koz video xD
Such a great and informative video thank you
I'm curious how could the ahri play this better, besides roaming possibly. Also why lvl E over W?
points into W only give damage and nothing else veigar's tend to put 2 point into w for waveclear then max cage for reduced cd and increased stun
W also has an insane AP ratio so becuase of his free AP from passive the base damage doesn't matter much at all. E is also one of the most broken basic abilities in the game so getting that up more often means more consistent damage from W anyway.
I hope that nemesis guy from the vod watches this video so that he improves his veigar gameplay
A cool little fun fact a lot of people don't know. If you Press R on Veigar on a ADC they die
really nice commentary !
Finally human champion 🎉
The worst part about being a Veigar player is having to tell your parents you're gay.
I thought veigar takes electrocute, why do you take first strike here? I don't play veigar but when I do, I much prefer the domination tree to inspiration
Domination gives a lot of damage veigar already has. Electrocute helps early, and ingenious hunter pairs well with everfrost, but the free boots, extra gold, and sustain and mana from biscuits makes early to mid game far easier. Makes scaling a lot easier as well.
@@poopsnicker8106 i guess its just preference
but I still think eyeball collection, ingenious hunter are more valuable
depends on the game.. elec gives more damage and actually scales pretty well for veigar specifically but theres no point going for a rune giving you more dmg when you already have enough. Youd go elec in games where u expect a lot of fighing to happen, like if mid/ jungle is veigar/J4 vs Lee/Yasuo.
First strike is pretty much just better in games where you dont need extra dmg or theres not too much happening in lane. If youre playing Veigar vs Malzahar or something youre not gonna ever really fight him so much rather go for scaling/extra gold.
@@haugi357 that's a fair point actually yeah, I used to go first strike kennen instead of electrocute against tanks or anyone I wouldnt kill in lane
Thanks for the commentary :)
Came here for a Veigar Tutorial - will come back for the cat😽
👁 💋 👁 beta training with nemesis
He is baba veigar
Wow great and entertaining commentary
Recordando viejos tiempos, ojala regreses a un buen equipo, Prayge
Just in time as veigar get's dumped to the ground. Sadge Timing.
the nerfs really aren't that big compared to the range he got they just made him worst into matchups you already shldnt pick veigar into like zed which is good balacing imo
what language is that?
Like the commentary👍🏼
you just make it look so ez
love the informative video
I used veigar to get to diamond 1 all the way from gold 3 but i played him full tank because i thought it was funny getting ap while being tanky it worked out good
Definitely works well into assassins. I go heartsteal into zed and he gets mad
Please more veigar videos
The reason I'll always love you is i watched you play kayle in utter schock how much farm u had , just to try her after nd get my first penta kill. Blame you for it ❤
I need to see more nemesis yone
The besttt midlaner eu
Nemesis Veigar vs Faker Akali POV plz
10:36 NICE 69 Q damage on ahri
1100 ap at 23 minutes is insane
sorry I was distracted by the cat
Nem is the best and so cute
129 stacks at 9 minutes lol
More veigar plssssss
But that's fine
im the best veigar
No, Im the best veigar
lmao veigar just got nerfed
bluelikeblue ur biggest fanboy or what?
I think futures is wayyy better
xd
Bro u speak so fast u have to go to deposits war and be the seller
first
I enjoy nemesis accent. Calms me for some reason