Quality control for a lot of things these days is not even close to what it used to be. Even so, I was an early adopter of a stainless auto 40 years ago, and it had the same slide binding problems. A few years later, I got another and no problems. It would seem the problem is back with some. It also doesn't help when parts are outsourced and cheaper metal is used or specs not quite right. Caveat Emptor. Even good brands are becoming a crap shoot - which is even worse if your life depends on it.
I've had one of these in .45 for over a year. At first it was jamming when trying to feed a round but after it got broken in it's been running flawlessly. The extractor was a little too tight most likely
I had a garrison just like that one in 9mm. Lots of times, it would not chamber a round. Had to send it back to Springfield. I was not impressed. Good video 👍
@@mikecude4167 it happens. Had that issue with a Taurus revolver. When I received it, the DA would get locked up really bad. They fixed and it runs great now.
1911's are heavier guns, meant for heavier loads. 9mm is not strong enough to properly operate the spring. Lots of problems with 9mm 1911's because of that. I have zero problems with my 45cal garrison
I think the small amount of play between the barrel bushing and the slide is normal. My Tisas has very visible space there and it still shoots very accurately. But if Springfield can fix it then definitely go for it. Any update on this? I have the Operator and am very happy with it so far. I was thinking about the Garrison next in .45.
I have the Garrison in .45 cap.it has been flawless. I had a loaded target in stainless 9mm and it just would not stay running. I also have a Rock Island 9mm tac ultra and it just flat out hauls ass. Have my eye on a colt competition pistol in 9mm now, so we will see how it goes.i have a dozen 1911’s two of which are 9mm . The Springfield didn’t run the rock island does. Hoping for better luck with the colt when it comes. Great video , thanks for sharing.
It's a 1911. It's a century old design. It's like a Harley-Davidson. EVERY internal part is both replaceable and upgradable. And like a Harley, knowing how to troubleshoot them is part of ownership.
I have had Springfield Armory guns throughout the years and bought one of these because I wanted a 9mm 1911. I put about 200 rounds through it. Took back to the store and traded for another gun. My other Springfields are .45's. Their target gun and a TRP. Sweet pistols. With the TRP, literally no hiccups after thousands of rounds from day one. I shoot it. I clean it and I shoot it. Best ever This one was udder disappointment. If I were to get another 9mm 1911 it would be the Operator
Check out the Colt Competition Series 1911…same price, head and shoulders above the Garrison. I found out after the fact and bought a Colt too. My Garrison is at SA supposedly getting fixed. We shall see.
Hey Mike, I have always liked the Colt Competition series. Have shot them and almost went that route. I decided I wanted more rounds in my hand and started looking at the Sig line up Ended up going with a CZ P 09. My next gun for carry is going to be a CZ P 07. Have always loved a single stack 1911 style pistol, always will. Just a bad choice.
I like your video and the clear perspective you have on the gun. Writing this right now without finishing the full video I have to say this: With your history and experience with a 1911, what happens when you rack the slide at 7:00 into your video, it should've been plainly obvious what was the problem with your Garrison. As is mentioned below, the disconnector "grabs" the slide and won't let it move forward. The extractor may be improperly tensioned as well - none of which are your fault. My Garrison will do the same, but in a much less violent manner as yours does - it definitely needs some work. You can field strip a 1911 in seconds, so you know what does what. These all-steel guns are NOT the same as the polymer/plastic guns that dilute the market now. They may be accurate and reliable, but they do not become a "Tonto" to a "Lone Ranger", if I may write bluntly. All-steel guns require lots of rounds through them, some fitting, lots of oil, care, and some TLC that only you can describe with your gun. I know that a Garrison is almost $1000 but when you get it humming and have some fun changing a few parts, it becomes even more "yours", if you understand my meaning. But this gun is the most vocal, demanding, silky, and bell-ringing gun I have ever owned. I can't speak to it's accuracy, because I just changed the 3-dot sights to fiber-optic/Tritium sights and don't even know what they look like. Anyway, like other viewers of your video, I look forward to a follow-up post-fixes, to see if your Garrison eventually becomes the M1A1 "basic" 1911 in your armory that has fought in so many wars. Peace!
I hadn’t considered the extractor. Though, if I understand correctly, too much tension on the extractor May have loosened the stakes on the ejector? I don’t know, but that seems to make sense. I definitely had it in mind to make this my basic 1911 a1 as you put it, to replace the RIA with something that I could have a degree of confidence in. However, I just sent of a bran new Colt Competition Series 1911 off to Nighthawk for a tasteful menu of options and upgrades…I’m afraid I may have opened a Pandora’s box of addiction….I’m hoping not, otherwise the SA may get the same treatment 😬🤣
I have a blued .45 Garrison with a couple thousand rounds through it with no issues ! 1911’s in 9mm seem to have problems from most mfg. imo . Seems the slide to frame fit is too tight and might need lapping a bit to smooth it out . SA will take care of it I wouldn’t panic just yet 😂
@@teelowteelow356I think he ment put like a lapping compound on rails and inside of slide then fire 30 or 40 rounds then clean and oil the gun. It helps take any rough or tight spot out of fit between slide and frame. I had a kimber that wouldn't work right and I did this and it smoothed right out and works great now. But you shouldn't have to do that it should work correctly from the factory!
I spent a ridiculous amount on a Pro light rail on gunbroker. The damn thing is already at Springfield for warranty work. Amd for whatever reason the bushing could be removed by hand. Pros are suppose to be tight. They definitely aren't $3k guns.
I got a Garrison from a person and it did the same thing! The slide locked up and wouldn’t move. The gun looked new but the guy came back and took the gun but haven’t herd anything else from him! He’s avoiding me now so we’ll see what happens! I thought I was getting a decent gun but this is the second one now with the same problem. Good luck with however you make out,I definitely wouldn’t use it for my everyday carry. I’m thinking it might be the barrel loop? They should give you a new gun!!!
@@AriePharmD yes, I got it back from Springfield, full of lapping compound, a lose bushing and still seizing when cycled by hand….i got rid of it, trash.
You got a bad one it happens with all the brands. Give them a chance and let them fix it before you pass judgment. You can look up videos on every single gun model ever made and find problems.
1911 don't have buffer springs, I think you meant recoil springs. Not trying to nitpick but there's a lot of people out there doing reviews right now that can't even get the terminology correct. Not saying that's you and you probably just misspoke but I thought I'd let you know in any event
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Quality control for a lot of things these days is not even close to what it used to be. Even so, I was an early adopter of a stainless auto 40 years ago, and it had the same slide binding problems. A few years later, I got another and no problems. It would seem the problem is back with some. It also doesn't help when parts are outsourced and cheaper metal is used or specs not quite right. Caveat Emptor. Even good brands are becoming a crap shoot - which is even worse if your life depends on it.
I'd like to see what comes back from SA ... thanks for sharing.
I will definitely post a response when I know more!
I've had one of these in .45 for over a year. At first it was jamming when trying to feed a round but after it got broken in it's been running flawlessly. The extractor was a little too tight most likely
I had a garrison just like that one in 9mm. Lots of times, it would not chamber a round. Had to send it back to Springfield. I was not impressed. Good video 👍
I have the same one, and has been great. Only have 300-350 through it. May just be a lemon. I’m sure Springfield will get that straightened out
I believe you’re right, I am sure SA will take care of it. Either way, it is unfortunate 🫤
@@mikecude4167 it happens. Had that issue with a Taurus revolver. When I received it, the DA would get locked up really bad. They fixed and it runs great now.
I’ve always been fortunate in the past, I suppose my ticket got punched in this one😂😅
@@mikecude4167 me too, that was a first for me. Even with surplus weapons. Lol. Do a follow up video when it gets back
I will for sure. It seems like SA’s customer service is top notch, we shall see.
I have this gun 500 rounds in and it’s like butter and very accurate out of the box for me. Butter baby I’m very satisfied with mine
1911's are heavier guns, meant for heavier loads. 9mm is not strong enough to properly operate the spring. Lots of problems with 9mm 1911's because of that. I have zero problems with my 45cal garrison
This pistol can be bought now for $670 with free shipping, always wait at least 2 years after they release a new pistol.
@@thomasward00 , they should be at the $300 mark…my RIA is head and shoulders better 😂
Were they at for $670 with free shipping ?
1911 meant for 45
You have to run 124gr NATO in these foe like 500 rounds. The weaker target ammo will not cycle properly until it's broken in.
I think the small amount of play between the barrel bushing and the slide is normal. My Tisas has very visible space there and it still shoots very accurately. But if Springfield can fix it then definitely go for it. Any update on this? I have the Operator and am very happy with it so far. I was thinking about the Garrison next in .45.
I have the Garrison in .45 cap.it has been flawless. I had a loaded target in stainless 9mm and it just would not stay running. I also have a Rock Island 9mm tac ultra and it just flat out hauls ass. Have my eye on a colt competition pistol in 9mm now, so we will see how it goes.i have a dozen 1911’s two of which are 9mm . The Springfield didn’t run the rock island does. Hoping for better luck with the colt when it comes. Great video , thanks for sharing.
It's a 1911. It's a century old design. It's like a Harley-Davidson. EVERY internal part is both replaceable and upgradable. And like a Harley, knowing how to troubleshoot them is part of ownership.
I have had Springfield Armory guns throughout the years and bought one of these because I wanted a 9mm 1911.
I put about 200 rounds through it. Took back to the store and traded for another gun.
My other Springfields are .45's. Their target gun and a TRP. Sweet pistols. With the TRP, literally no hiccups after thousands of rounds from day one. I shoot it. I clean it and I shoot it. Best ever
This one was udder disappointment. If I were to get another 9mm 1911 it would be the Operator
Check out the Colt Competition Series 1911…same price, head and shoulders above the Garrison. I found out after the fact and bought a Colt too. My Garrison is at SA supposedly getting fixed. We shall see.
Hey Mike, I have always liked the Colt Competition series. Have shot them and almost went that route. I decided I wanted more rounds in my hand and started looking at the Sig line up
Ended up going with a CZ P 09.
My next gun for carry is going to be a CZ P 07.
Have always loved a single stack 1911 style pistol, always will. Just a bad choice.
You didn’t even say what was wrong with it
I like your video and the clear perspective you have on the gun. Writing this right now without finishing the full video I have to say this: With your history and experience with a 1911, what happens when you rack the slide at 7:00 into your video, it should've been plainly obvious what was the problem with your Garrison. As is mentioned below, the disconnector "grabs" the slide and won't let it move forward. The extractor may be improperly tensioned as well - none of which are your fault. My Garrison will do the same, but in a much less violent manner as yours does - it definitely needs some work. You can field strip a 1911 in seconds, so you know what does what. These all-steel guns are NOT the same as the polymer/plastic guns that dilute the market now. They may be accurate and reliable, but they do not become a "Tonto" to a "Lone Ranger", if I may write bluntly. All-steel guns require lots of rounds through them, some fitting, lots of oil, care, and some TLC that only you can describe with your gun. I know that a Garrison is almost $1000 but when you get it humming and have some fun changing a few parts, it becomes even more "yours", if you understand my meaning. But this gun is the most vocal, demanding, silky, and bell-ringing gun I have ever owned. I can't speak to it's accuracy, because I just changed the 3-dot sights to fiber-optic/Tritium sights and don't even know what they look like. Anyway, like other viewers of your video, I look forward to a follow-up post-fixes, to see if your Garrison eventually becomes the M1A1 "basic" 1911 in your armory that has fought in so many wars. Peace!
I hadn’t considered the extractor. Though, if I understand correctly, too much tension on the extractor May have loosened the stakes on the ejector? I don’t know, but that seems to make sense. I definitely had it in mind to make this my basic 1911 a1 as you put it, to replace the RIA with something that I could have a degree of confidence in. However, I just sent of a bran new Colt Competition Series 1911 off to Nighthawk for a tasteful menu of options and upgrades…I’m afraid I may have opened a Pandora’s box of addiction….I’m hoping not, otherwise the SA may get the same treatment 😬🤣
Looks like you are running the pistol dry especially on the disconnector. Run your 1911 wet.
I have a blued .45 Garrison with a couple thousand rounds through it with no issues ! 1911’s in 9mm seem to have problems from most mfg. imo . Seems the slide to frame fit is too tight and might need lapping a bit to smooth it out . SA will take care of it I wouldn’t panic just yet 😂
Just needs breaking time. Polish your raile and slide with some nice Polish like mothers, that will help, and a couple hundred rounds too. 👍🏻
Thanks for the advice, but I’m going to let SA handle it😁
Lmao why would he polish his slide? That ridiculous
@@teelowteelow356I think he ment put like a lapping compound on rails and inside of slide then fire 30 or 40 rounds then clean and oil the gun. It helps take any rough or tight spot out of fit between slide and frame. I had a kimber that wouldn't work right and I did this and it smoothed right out and works great now. But you shouldn't have to do that it should work correctly from the factory!
I spent a ridiculous amount on a Pro light rail on gunbroker. The damn thing is already at Springfield for warranty work. Amd for whatever reason the bushing could be removed by hand. Pros are suppose to be tight.
They definitely aren't $3k guns.
@@curtisjackson3010 is it a newer one? The on I had was an earlier production when they were still 100% custom.
Try dry lube. Various makers have dry lube. Remington is a good one.
Try a Tisas. You won’t be disappointed.
I’ve been wanting to get a Tisas. The Tisas Raider caught my eye.
Just got the Tisas Duty SSR beauty and no issues. $550
I got a Garrison from a person and it did the same thing! The slide locked up and wouldn’t move. The gun looked new but the guy came back and took the gun but haven’t herd anything else from him! He’s avoiding me now so we’ll see what happens! I thought I was getting a decent gun but this is the second one now with the same problem. Good luck with however you make out,I definitely wouldn’t use it for my everyday carry. I’m thinking it might be the barrel loop? They should give you a new gun!!!
Any updates?
@@AriePharmD yes, I got it back from Springfield, full of lapping compound, a lose bushing and still seizing when cycled by hand….i got rid of it, trash.
It ceased up on you because it was dry, 1911's like to be wet.
@@NorthCountryOutlaw I guess you missed the part where I said it was lubed up, and I always lube them when I shoot at the range.
You got a bad one it happens with all the brands. Give them a chance and let them fix it before you pass judgment. You can look up videos on every single gun model ever made and find problems.
Why they show me this shit after I buy one 😂wtf is RUclips on !
Send to Springfield maybe they fix it.
1911 don't have buffer springs, I think you meant recoil springs.
Not trying to nitpick but there's a lot of people out there doing reviews right now that can't even get the terminology correct. Not saying that's you and you probably just misspoke but I thought I'd let you know in any event
Recoil spring is backward
Cant get the gun to work ?,can't even complain!
👍👍👍🇨🇷😁
First mistake was getting a 1911 in 9mm but ur problem is the extractor !
You should see my other mistakes😬🤣🤣🤣