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Mysteries in the Transmission | Farmall 856 Restoration Episode 3
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Today I'm identifying oil leaks and potential shifting issues in the rear half of the tractor and disassembling things to repair them. This includes the speed and range transmissions, PTO unit, draft sensing mechanism, and brake valves. However, when I drain the transmission oil, some mystery pieces fall out...What do they belong to? Also, I spend some time showing how I keep parts in order, how I know their places during reassembly, and whether I will be rebuilding the engine.
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In a world where vulgarity and swearing is commonplace, I am very appreciative of your thoughtful, intelligent way of speaking. It is very represhing.
Agreed!
Life is good when I wake up on a rainy morning, sitting in my recliner drinking coffee and watching Pete disassemble his tractor.
Puts me in a great relaxing mood for the rest of the day.
Exactly. And a warm place this time of year
Yup, nothing like sitting in a comfortable place and watching someone else work. I've been there.
Doing the same this morning. He definitely has patience and loves what he is doing
The Quality of stuff just makes ya proud of how things used to be
As an older farmer. I really enjoy the way that you tackle your problems. You work slow and steady. No need to be killing snakes. Thank you for explaining things as you proceed to the next step. Thank You ☺️
Amen
If you don't have time to do it right the first time you sure as hell don't have time to do it right the second time
The parts you show is a spring end from your high range cover an I think the other pieces from the roller bushing in there also
I am humbled by your knowledge and patience to take on such a complicated project.
Great video. Pete you are really mechanically inclined. Most men are all thumbs. You are the best.
By his knowledge of the product I would bet that he worked for IH back in the day
I was sitting here and watching you take this apart. I thought: what a talent you have! And then I thought: who was the brains behind all this design and construction?! So interesting and enjoyable Pete, keep it up!
Remember, tractors started simple and were improved/modified as the needs increased.
Was watching a video about the guys who developed aftermarket accessories. 9 speed transmission for the Farmall M. Their kit would install with just one hole drilled in the case! This enabled the end user to select a gear more suitable for the job being done.
Yes fantastic people/minds with creativity have brought tractors where they are today!!!
As a former Marine aircraft mechanic, these videos bring back fond memories, you are just a natural, keep them coming!
As a former Air Force aircraft mechanic, with all of your hardware that you are removing. I suggest getting parts (screw bags) with strings on them to attach to the components. Just saves time finding them for cleaning and installation. 40 years of working on aircraft. Love the videos.
@@user-dh4qs5wb1qI believe he does in one video on a older different restoration he said he did I just think he does it off camera
I wished back in the days of my youth, I could’ve apprenticed under your guidance. Your knowledge and speaking abilities are incredible to listen to.
Man grandfather was a similar man, watching these videos brings me back to being alittle boy helping grandad tear apart his internationals. He forgot more about those tractors than I ever knew, but I wholeheartedly agree that his knowledge and way of speaking lessons of what why and how are enjoyable to listen too!
I'm about as mechanically inclined as a monkey, but I LOVE watching you do these videos. SO incredibly interesting and educational. The engineering involved in making and designing these is truly amazing. Thank you Pete.
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Hats off to the editor on this production. The number of camera angles and closeups clearly show how well planned every detailing shot consideration was given.
It would be difficult for an average viewer to grasp what effort it takes to produce a seamless and well timed production on this advanced level.
You are one heck of a director/ editor and personable narrator. 👍👍👍👍👍
Dr Pete has her on life support,but she will make a full recovery!
My mechanical skills are limited to oil changes and brake jobs. To see someone so completely disassemble a vehicle then repair it and reassemble it amazes me every time.
I am seventy five years old. This video made me feel like I was back in shop class in FFA. Loved the video. thanks for bringing us along.
Never knew tractors are that complicated and sophisticated. You truly impress me with your knowledge and skill being a self learned mechanic .
I don't have a tractor or will I get one, but I enjoyed watching this, It is mostly how you explain things, thanks Pete.
Your knowledge of these tractors is amazing! You've no fear of screwing things up by disassembling!
We had a saying on the farm if it wasn't working it it's know good the way it is. If you don't know much about it now you will till the end of the day
Pete, when I work on something and discover a tool I'm lacking (providing I dont have an immediate need)I will give descriptions and links to my wife or children. On fathers day, birthday, or Christmas it gives them ideas and they appreciate the ability to give useful gifts.
Thank you for another great video. I put new bolts in a 686 ring and pinion 30 years ago. Was changing the trans oil and a sheered off nut fell into the pan.😮 . 5 of the 13 bolts had sheered off. No damage to ring or pinion.. remember that the bolts cost me $45 back then. I was complaining to the dealership about the cost. He took me back to their shop and showed me the same model tractor only the owner didn't catch the problem soon enough. $3800.00 in parts. He laughed and said shut up and give me $45 for your new bolts. I smiled and did just that.😊
Having very little mechanical ability, and not understanding what you’re talking about when you name all these components, I still watch you restoring these tractors.
I’m 81 and it’s so nice to see the complexity of these machines that built America.
They may not have all the technological gadgets that modern tractors possess, but people like you, who have mechanical knowledge can restore them without having to resort to hooking them up to computers to troubleshoot a problem.
These machines were built to last, where quality was job #1.
I echo your thoughts and sentiments.
Bravo 🎉 for the patience of Mr Pete 😀.
Right on!!!
Great video on disassembly, thanks for bringing us along.
Hi Pete, I've done a few of these type tractors and still do from time to time. The spring hook looks like it's from a shift detent arm hi/lo rev and the other scrap iron is probably from the sprag clutch in the TA those parts are light enough they can migrate to the rear section I don't think it could have possibly come from the upper draft/hydraulic mechanism. Looks like someone updated the park pawl with the spring like the 86 series very good especially if you have hills.
Huh. The detent springs were fine. I wonder if one had broken previously and was replaced. I guess I'll look at the TA as best as I can when I pull the bottom cover off to replace the trans brake. I just can't figure out how parts would migrate all the way back there without chewing up a bearing or getting caught in the trans filter.
Thanks for the genuine spirit you are what makes RUclips good . We the viewers get to experience your farm as if we were your best friend . You talk to us in a way that's honest and from the heart.
Thank you Pete!
Everything is just so beefy, heavy duty and cast iron heavy. Slow and steady.
i drove one of these for over 10 yrs, best damn tractor ever!
Very informative AND interesting. Thank you Pete.
Wonderful video peat. I’m 14 years old and manage a small farm in WV. I really enjoy your in-depth explanation on how all these parts and pieces work together. Your restoration of the MD gave me the courage to rebuild the engine in one of my old Fergusons. It’s been done for a year now and it’s gratifying going out seeing the work you’ve done and how it pays off. The gratification when you finish this one will be overwhelming!
Are you 14 yo or 41 yo?
@@gailrobinson8177 14
14 or 41, your comment says 41 in nature.
@@thomasfrost6993 i get told that alot
Hello Pete enjoyed your video. Have a great day.
I love the way Pete persevered through injury to complete this video. Looks like he sustained a cut above his right eye. Hope all is well. Thanks for the upload, Pete!!
Pattie finally had enough of his bs?
@@chrish1657 possibly one dad joke to many
@@rodroper211I feel responsible as I laughed at one of the Dad joke's in the last week or so. It was the first that had caused this response (perhaps worldwide). One is generally too many.
Thanks for tackling the questions about tracking and organizing parts and order of assembly/disassembly. I love diving into unknown territory, but a little insight never hurts. Keep up the great videos!
There are only so many springs in that rear end, so I would refer to the parts catalog for every spring you can't put your eyes on already. This gives you a short list of possibilities. I would then start with the ones with an easy to remove access cover and just go through the list until you find the broken spring. The hunks of metal are maybe the tips of a gear or a control rod.
The broken Spring end is Probabably from an area of constant movement back and forth in tension.
With a tractor that old keep in mind it could be something not cleaned out on a previous repair
Pete, your knowledge of the tractor's systems flows so naturally throughout the tutorial that it makes me wonder where it comes from. It's as if you were an engineer at international in your past life. Seriously. I've viewed your past restorations and the experience that progresses through the model years shows acquired knowledge, but there must be more to it. I presume you study the literature for the machine, but wow, what a memory! Is there some secret we viewers don't know about?
From a very intetested and impressed viewer in Verona NY.
At about 6:30 . The 4 speed selector casting. Same concept in many motorcycle transmissions. When used in them,it is a rotary scroll case that forces the gear selectors. Really interesting to see the same concept expressed in a very different fashion. Some very smart mechanical engineers made use of a common idea,reworked it,and voilá,a strong gear selector where weight is not so important as a motorcycle has. Interesting.
Your ability to strip these machines down to nuts and bolts, remember where everything goes, identify problems and make the replacement, then reassemble, and have everything work is absolutely AMAZINGLY IMPRESSIVE! Books or no books I would be in the weeds for sure. Stripping a machine is common sense mostly, “this bolt holds this part on, take it out the part comes off.”, reassembly is different animal all together.
Scott here from Oklahoma and I have been a electrician for 44 years but I do not have mechanical skills like you possess. It's truly amazing watching you break down a piece of equipment and even more amazing being able put all those pieces back together. Thank you for taking the time to explain the process and its really enjoyable watching your videos.
That one wire looks like the end of a spring, but you probably know that. Thanks for the videos.
Enjoyed the video thanks Pete have a great day!
You have great knowledge of these tractors amazing as well as a great teacher. I will never rebuild a tractor but respect how they operate and how brilliant the early manufacturing was to the farmers needs.
I hope in the near future Milwaukee Tools see the huge advantage of sponsorship in your site..Quality instruction, demeanor, and insight..
The wire sort of thing looks like the loop on the end of a stretch spring. Like you said, " the parts catalog is great" to help locate the, "what the heck is that?" I rebuild older, whatever, sort of stuff. So far three jeeps, one IH flatbed and two mid sixties Ford trucks. It fun to work on equipment that doesn't need a Master in Electrical Engineering to troubleshoot. I'm still amazed at the engineering, that built the world we live in, before our addiction to electronics. Thanks!
Pete, I continue to be amazed at your knowledge and courage in restoring these old tractors. I love watching your restoration projects and anxiously await the next one! Please keep up the great work!
Enjoyed as always! Thank you 😊
absolutely brilliant work as usual Pete, very inspirational with your depth of knowledge and common sense approach to all aspects of your work on your Farm.
Your work is just amazing and your explanation of how the parts work is just great . We are in the middle of winter here in Montana your channel makes winter not so long with your restoration. We so enjoy them . Thank you
Pete. Always enjoy your tractor restoration videos. Thanks for taking the time to explain draft control and related vintage tractor design.
Pete, another great video. You continue to amaze me with your mechanical knowledge. You are my favorite tractor nerd !
Wow Pete, What a video Legacy you are creating, (and you're not really old yet!). I'm older than yourself and see the falling levels of skills among the mechanics about. You just top it up like an oil can... and teach newbies how to tackle such work on their own. You are a gem, and I'm sure future generations will come to the same conclusion. Its all a question of how to approach a problem in general. You wise old goat. (Greatest Of All Time)👋
Pete you never cease to amaze me. In college the engineering students who grew up on a farm or ranch showed a mechanical aptitude that those of us who did not - did not have. I have always appreciated your explanations while disassembling and assembling equipment. Keep up the good work - job well done. Cheers
An extremely valuable video/video series. Thank you. I know there is a lot of work involved to bring it to my screen. Not only the wrenching but even moreso, the filming and editing. Much appreciated!
I agree!! Great camera work😊
Im getting to know more about internationals and Farmall's more than I do fords😂. Looking good so far 👍
Love watching you working on this stuff. What I actually am looking for is if anyone in the comments knows what those pieces went to. I mean think about it that whole tractor and someone would know what they went on.
The hooked wire mystery part is looks very much like the end of an extension spring. Possibly 387413R1 - "sensing arm return" spring? Messick's has two draft control diagrams. One shows it as ref 71, and the other as 52. A busted spring seems consistent with the broken off ball end set screw.
At the 15:20 mark in the video I saw what looked like a spring just to the right of center in the video. Could that possibly be the one you are referring to?
@@rickkucharski3211 I think it probably is. Pete said in a following video that he believes it's from a shifter detent mechanism and made it's way into the rear compartment. I hadn't considered the possibility that it had migrated from elsewhere.
@@rickkucharski3211 I think it probably is. Pete said in a following video that he believes it's from a shifter detent mechanism and made it's way into the rear compartment. I hadn't considered the possibility that it had migrated from elsewhere.
@@rickkucharski3211 I think it probably is. Pete said in a following video that he believes it's from a shifter detent mechanism and made it's way into the rear compartment. I hadn't considered the possibility that it had migrated from elsewhere.
Love these videos! I learn something every time.
I work for a tractor service company and we mainly work on IH tractors. I would like to say the head of the spring probably came from one of the shifter covers. Normally we find them in the hyd. filter canister
At 15:52 I panicked when I realized I have no hope of reassembling this machine. Then I remembered Pete will do it.
When I was younger i always asked my grandpa why dont you use the power tool. Now as I am older I do it all by hand too and understand why.
Ahhh a piece of warm banana bread a cuppa and a tractor video.All is right with my world .
Bring on the next one !!
Enjoy all your videos Pete. I grew up around Farmall Cub tractors, my grandads , I remember driving it at 6 years old. Your knowledge of these tractors is nothing short of AMAZING!!!!!!!!
One thing I learned from this video . Old sheets and curtains from the kids room make great rags lol I for one love watching you tear down and then explain how something works together
Great video !
My wife gasped when she seen the Dora sheet. LOL
Oh what a relief. Someone is dismantling a tractor and using 'both' hands, not like the showmasters who always hold the Gopro 10 in one hand AND, all removed screws end up in a container (plastic box) first and are not scattered randomly over the workpiece AND, work is being done on a clean workpiece AND there are no tools lying around anywhere on the tractor.
Looks very professional (for me as a German amateur 😁)
Am I the only one that smiled at the Dora the Explorer sheet you were using?
Imagine the engineers designing each little part as it will relate to the next part in line. How many things must work just right to make a tractor work as hard as they do? Very interesting, especially when you get into the larger tractors with multiple transmissions. Love it. Thank you, Pete.
Hello Pete, I love watching ALL your videos, Thanks for taking the time to show us all you do.
I have a thought, you said someone was in that rear before, so I would suspect someone replaced the broken small parts and just left the old parts they couldn't find down in the oil. Maybe?
Keep warm and have a great day !
Thanks Brent. That is certainly possible, and it would make things easier for me as I wouldn't need to go hunting any further.
I really enjoy these mechanical videos. (I like the others, too!) I was interested in the draft control system on the 856. Years ago I knew an old farmer who at one time worked for a Ferguson tractor dealership, He claimed that Mr. Ferguson invented the original system (in England) and others i.e.Massey & Ford copied it without paying any royalties to him. Not sure if this is correct but he sure was an interesting guy.
Thanks for taking the time to publish your videos.
Another great episode on the mechanicals. Thanks for sharing Pete 👍🏼🇬🇧
Awesome video thanks for taking the time to make them!!
I love Milwaukee tools!
As a kid, I enjoyed taking all kinds of things apart. That was so much fun!! However, putting them back together not so much 😊. My father was a genius when it came to fixing things. He repaired a TV set with parts left over. It worked better for several years afterwards. He was even his own tailor.
Very interesting to watch you take apart the tractor ! You are very knowledgeable about your machinery! Thanks for the lesson in repairing a vintage tractor!
Love your videos Pete !!!
As impressed as I am with your self learned knowledge, I am also impressed with the engineering of this tractor and the people who designed it. Thank you for another great video Pete
Sir ,I can not help but to say a HUGE thank you . I drove many of that very tractor in the openness of Oklahoma in the 60s n 70s . Thank u for teaching me what I never seemed to care about in my youth , except to make the rows straight to wind row and the fence post .. thanks . Luv it .
Always enjoy your tractor restoration videos.
As soon as I saw that you had up loaded a video, I got myself a nice cup of tea and settled in to watch you work…happy days
"I like the peace and quiet of a ratcheting wrench" Tranquility, it helps one think before reacting.
You use the manuals, what a novel idea!
"It's written in mechanics speak, no fluffy language."
You make this mechanic by trade laugh because it's exceptionally true. Best on you Pete, keep up the great work! An ounce of preventative maintenance keeps haying season headaches away.
Thanks Pete
Thanks Pete. My thinking is along the same lines as yours, based on what you showed, but ive not been in one of those. Almost looks like that bolt bent the arm it was against when it sheered... Makes me wonder what somebody was tryin to pickup lol
I noticed the arm is bent too. I wonder if the jam nut vibrated loose on the bolt and it gradually worked against the arm and bent it, until the bolt finally broke.
Interesting. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing, Pete.
Really excited that we're now getting into the nitty-gritty mechanical details. Appreciate your informative explanation of what each part does as you're taking it apart!
Thanks for shareing Pete
Thanks for sharing!
Excellent show-n-tell, thanks Pete.
Thanks, Pete. 👍👍
Thanks Pete for another great video.
Love watching your rebuild videos ❤
Thank you Pete!
Well done, Pete, well done. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video thanks for sharing
Another great video! Thank you for documenting these things!
Thank you Mrs. Pete ...
I consider this high value content. I don't own a tractor but back in the day well, we were Ford brand on the farm. I always loved the Internationals though. I felt there was just some kind of magic with those red beasts. The genius in design that has no fear of being big and heavy and Durable. Fixable. And to us, a thing of true beauty when restored or even still in relic condition. Ah.....small scale farming. It is an American blueprint. It makes me feel good to even just see it here
Tractor fun with Pete.👍👍🧡
Fascinating to watch.👍
Great content Pete keep them coming 👍👍
Thank you Pete great video.
Great video Pete 😊😊😊
Some job there Pete!! Many thanks !!!!
Thanks Pete for another great video
Pete you have a gift, a way to explain as you go to me that transmission system looked extremely complex but now after seeing you go through one I understand how it works. Thanks!