I could be wrong but i’m pretty sure they fanon on why Bellatrix is insane is that when she was a kid her parents forced her to use the memory extraction spell (I don’t remember why) which made her constantly forget who she was and second guess herself to the point where she went insane. I’m not a big fanon person so I could be wrong but I think that might be it.
I believe there's also a headcannon, that Bella spent about a year under the imperius curse when she was around 8 and she was never the same after that.
I just can’t with Welburga and Orion being cousins. I just imagine a family gathering and Welburga sees Orion and is like: ‘he’s mine, he will have my babies’ and Orion is next to her like: ‘THATS OUR DUCKING COUSIN!’
The fan film of The Black Sisters says that Bella is crazy because her father messed up with her memories, because she was a rebel and didn't wanted to get married so early
I've watched the last couple of videos covering the marauders, the ships, and the slytherin skittles, and I have to say you have done an amazing job! I've never seen a RUclipsr who goes into such depths when covering the Fanon while also including the Canon, which I don't see very much. Keep doing what you're doing!
This video is amazing, thank you for creating it ! In the family tree, it's s not the same Granger that the Blacks are related to (as far as I know) in the sixth book, Slughorn asks Hermione if she's related to (cantremembername) granger who was a famous potion wizard, and she says she isn't, so there's a magical family named Granger but it's not the same as hers
24:04 Hello i know you wont see this but i have a theory, maybe there was another muggle born witch or wizard before Hermione in the granger family and then a Black got disowned for marrying the Granger or the Black got disowned for marrying a Muggle who was in the Granger family!
I like the part in ATYD where Narcissa (I think was her or Regulus) says that the Black children "lie low" until they come of age. I like that for Narcissa, Andromeda, and Regulus's Fanon characterizations because it lends well to stories trying to get away from the death eater aspects or change their allegiances, while still making it plausible in some way? I also just like ATYD characterization of Regulus; he seems like he is never fully confident in the fact that he believes his parents beliefs are right, but doesn't try to refute them (prob likely so that he doesn't face the same issues Sirius does.) who knows maybe I'm reading this all wring but that is how I see it. Also Walpurga sounds better then Walburga so it's gonna be Walpurga for me (plus atyd uses Walpurga) Edit: future me here, further into reading atyd then I was before, and I agree with my above statement, but I will add that it seems more of a “window” thing where regulus could have been good and unlearned his family’s bigotry, or continue down the wrong path. And in atyd, as it is canon compliant, he takes the darker path. He only realizes later because he becomes disillusioned with Voldemort in particular, but I like that they added that complexity to his character in atyd. Giving him the classic fanon poor little meow meow characterization while also staying true to to the fact that he was not a necessarily good or perfect person in canon. No one is 100% good or 100% evil. I saw a Reddit post that I half agree with, saying that taking away the complexity makes regulus’s character boring. I think it can in some cases, but it works just as fine in others. I don’t like the wizard f@c!st stuff, but if you take that out, some sort of complexity and unlearning bigotry could be good for regulus’s character because people are naturally complex. But tbh I also like the poor little meow meow characterization too so I’ll just keep enjoying what’s out there lol!
I have like 7 pages of Black Family Lore but I don't share it bc my version of them is different to usual fanon, but it is so good for me and I love it
i don’t care if you made this video two months ago, I NEED SOMEONE TO KNOW MY HC ON WHY BELLATRIX WENT INSANE TW: child abuse and trauma so as a kid, bellatrix was very outspoken, contrasting heavily from narcissa’s dismissive and submissive nature and andromeda’s own self-controlled manner (until she meets ted tonks.) instead of nurturing this trait, bellatrix’s parents see this as “unladylike” and “disgraceful behavior,” mainly by her mother. cygnus was the only one to genuinely harm them. though cygnus had a temper, he loved the women in his life. he never said no to druella’s demands on punishments, but he couldn’t bring himself to physically hurt them, straying from his sisters methods (actually causing life threatening bodily harm and torturing her kids. WHAT CYGNUS DID WAS JUST AS BAD THOUGH.) as a form of punishment, cygnus would use mind manipulation spells such as the imperius curse and legilimens to create false memories or destroy good ones in bellatrix’s mind. obviously, this destroyed her mental health. and by the time she was married, she had so many false memories of these monsters and creatures that she rapidly went crazy.
I am in love with your marauders deep dive videos and just kind of a fun fact that I have read enough fanfics to say that I have seen Sirius getting engaged through his family by force in different fics to Bellatrix, Andromeda AND Narcissa! So yay congrats sirius of collecting engagement with cousins in fanfics haha the black family really is messed up
could you please make a video about other fanfics? i mean like Crimson rivers, only The brave, And TCOPTP 😭😭 (idk if that's The correct way to wrote It but okay you know what i mean pdt : i love your vídeos 💗
soso super off topic but i love that river pheonix is on your wall hes so special to me. river pheonix, my own private idaho and banana fish are my 3 personal roman empires
I know this is going to be super unrelated and weird but I’ve been enjoying your content on everything involving the Marauders fandom because my attachment to all of my childhood book series has become so complicated. Harry Potter… Is self-explanatory, given that the canon books are written by TERFling and we’ve all come to face how much problematic stuff is in the canon text. The one other main book series I grew up with was Percy Jackson but then Riordan made a blog stating that he wanted freedom for Palestine but “security” for the illegal apartheid state that has been occupying and colonizing the land and oppressing Palestinians for 75+ years 😭. It’s been hard trying to reconcile the love I had for these books while coming to terms with their respective creators’ actions, especially because with Percy Jackson there isn’t really anything like the Marauders to escape into since all of the Percy Jackson-centered creators here on RUclips that I know of have so far opted to just completely refuse to even address Riordan’s blog. Every book series I’ve grown up with and came to love as a kid has been tainted and watching Marauders content from time to time has become this weird sort of small escapism for me now that two of the most prominent book franchises I had during my childhood and teenage years have both been… permanently tainted. It makes it feel super weird for me to revisit these books from time to time due to this. Content likes yours sort of feels like a way for me to still hold onto what little memories I have left of my childhood that, while it’s not completely devoid of corruption and I’ll always have to own up to that and embrace it, it’s still something I can at least try to hold onto because in my mind I can try to mold and adapt it into something new, better, slightly less problematic I suppose, and at the very least more aligned with who I am now today in terms of my beliefs. Like a piece of the past that still allows me to visit old memories without feeling that sense of loss and sadness as a queer POC who identified with these stories but also changes with me as I develop new ideas and views that deviate from the misogyny, queerphobia, racism, anti-s-itism, and other forms of bigotry prevalent in TERFling’s writing, something that I can always hold onto that will give me peaceful nostalgia of what once was while simultaneously reflecting the ways in which I’ve grown as it continues to grow more and more progressive and into a better space for representation and tolerance than the actual canon text was. Into a world that, in my own head at least, deviates so far from the actual universe that it transforms into something entirely unique. Different from Harry Potter, but still better. A world that better represents ideals of acceptance and community. All this stuff I wrote sounds weird, and I know. But I guess it’s really something that only I can personally, intuitively feel and understand and subsequently try to put into words for other people to see how I feel and view it. Even if they don’t share this perspective, which is okay. I honestly feel like this kind of perspective has always been specific/unique to me after everything that’s shaped my identity now in the present.
No cause you're so real for that! I struggle a lot as well with Harry Potter being semi ruined for me which is why I turned to marauders (as like... everyone does haha) HP was such a pivotal part of my childhood so it's hard to see how god AWFUL jk rowling is these days. I'm very happy that my videos can provide some comfort despite all that :)) and you don't have to apologize for writing a long comment, i enjoyed reading it. thank you for sharing this with me
@@CoffeekoeI’m so glad to know you’re in the same position as me. The comment section of your video explaining the Slytherin skittles provided a lot of insightful discussion on why people engage with the Marauders versions of Evan Rosier and Barty Crouch Jr. I think it’s safe say that, for all of us who grew up with childhood book series like Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, etc. Not every part of our pasts has remained… Well, for lack of a better term, “Pure.” Although to be fair I’ve personally noticed a lot of sketchy elements that were prevalent in the books I generally grew up with( EDIT: After I got older I mean), it’s just that a lot of us were too young to realize it and are doing our best to come to terms with them now as older and more mature people. Thank you for being kind. I very much appreciate your Marauders content.
I’m pretty sure Narcissa was named after the Narcissus asteroid and Walpurga after the 256 Walpurga which was an asteroid belt, could be wrong I looked this up in middle school
"they are a weird family." THATS UNDERMINING IT, HEAVILY
Yep by a lot
Noooo, Remus does have something to do with the black family cuz he marries Sirius and they live happily ever after and adopt Harry (I wish 😭)
We all wish 😢
regulus is also the heart of the leo constellation which is SO funny to me lol
physically holding myself back from asking if thats a crimson rivers reference i am so sorry
Draco actually made history by being the first one in the family tree to not get disowned for being a blood traitor.
oh, yeaaaaah you're right
I could be wrong but i’m pretty sure they fanon on why Bellatrix is insane is that when she was a kid her parents forced her to use the memory extraction spell (I don’t remember why) which made her constantly forget who she was and second guess herself to the point where she went insane. I’m not a big fanon person so I could be wrong but I think that might be it.
I believe there's also a headcannon, that Bella spent about a year under the imperius curse when she was around 8 and she was never the same after that.
I just can’t with Welburga and Orion being cousins. I just imagine a family gathering and Welburga sees Orion and is like: ‘he’s mine, he will have my babies’ and Orion is next to her like: ‘THATS OUR DUCKING COUSIN!’
I love that the marauders fandom is just full of its own literature, art, films, even music ! It’s such a great community 🫶
The mummy issues clan
The fan film of The Black Sisters says that Bella is crazy because her father messed up with her memories, because she was a rebel and didn't wanted to get married so early
I've watched the last couple of videos covering the marauders, the ships, and the slytherin skittles, and I have to say you have done an amazing job! I've never seen a RUclipsr who goes into such depths when covering the Fanon while also including the Canon, which I don't see very much. Keep doing what you're doing!
aw thank you so much, that is so sweet
tbh the black family is my roman empire
Sameee
About the same size, too
This video is amazing, thank you for creating it ! In the family tree, it's s not the same Granger that the Blacks are related to (as far as I know) in the sixth book, Slughorn asks Hermione if she's related to (cantremembername) granger who was a famous potion wizard, and she says she isn't, so there's a magical family named Granger but it's not the same as hers
omg that makes so much more sense i was like how the hell did they end up there they're muggles HAHA
The Dagworth-Granger family
I was here wondering if it was a technical distant relation by marriage because of Hermione marrying Ron in canon but this makes a lot more sense lmao
24:04 Hello i know you wont see this but i have a theory, maybe there was another muggle born witch or wizard before Hermione in the granger family and then a Black got disowned for marrying the Granger or the Black got disowned for marrying a Muggle who was in the Granger family!
oh this came just in time i was literally rewatching your marauders vid when i got the notification 😭
"Sirius was the black sheep of the black family," so a white sheep then?
I like the part in ATYD where Narcissa (I think was her or Regulus) says that the Black children "lie low" until they come of age. I like that for Narcissa, Andromeda, and Regulus's Fanon characterizations because it lends well to stories trying to get away from the death eater aspects or change their allegiances, while still making it plausible in some way? I also just like ATYD characterization of Regulus; he seems like he is never fully confident in the fact that he believes his parents beliefs are right, but doesn't try to refute them (prob likely so that he doesn't face the same issues Sirius does.) who knows maybe I'm reading this all wring but that is how I see it. Also Walpurga sounds better then Walburga so it's gonna be Walpurga for me (plus atyd uses Walpurga)
Edit: future me here, further into reading atyd then I was before, and I agree with my above statement, but I will add that it seems more of a “window” thing where regulus could have been good and unlearned his family’s bigotry, or continue down the wrong path. And in atyd, as it is canon compliant, he takes the darker path. He only realizes later because he becomes disillusioned with Voldemort in particular, but I like that they added that complexity to his character in atyd. Giving him the classic fanon poor little meow meow characterization while also staying true to to the fact that he was not a necessarily good or perfect person in canon. No one is 100% good or 100% evil. I saw a Reddit post that I half agree with, saying that taking away the complexity makes regulus’s character boring. I think it can in some cases, but it works just as fine in others. I don’t like the wizard f@c!st stuff, but if you take that out, some sort of complexity and unlearning bigotry could be good for regulus’s character because people are naturally complex. But tbh I also like the poor little meow meow characterization too so I’ll just keep enjoying what’s out there lol!
Hermione marries Ron which links her to the Weasley family and from that the Black. Love your videos ❤❤
I have like 7 pages of Black Family Lore but I don't share it bc my version of them is different to usual fanon, but it is so good for me and I love it
been waiting for another marauders video!! we cheered ALSO the sirius look is absolutely amazing
thank you!!
i don’t care if you made this video two months ago, I NEED SOMEONE TO KNOW MY HC ON WHY BELLATRIX WENT INSANE
TW: child abuse and trauma
so as a kid, bellatrix was very outspoken, contrasting heavily from narcissa’s dismissive and submissive nature and andromeda’s own self-controlled manner (until she meets ted tonks.) instead of nurturing this trait, bellatrix’s parents see this as “unladylike” and “disgraceful behavior,” mainly by her mother.
cygnus was the only one to genuinely harm them. though cygnus had a temper, he loved the women in his life. he never said no to druella’s demands on punishments, but he couldn’t bring himself to physically hurt them, straying from his sisters methods (actually causing life threatening bodily harm and torturing her kids. WHAT CYGNUS DID WAS JUST AS BAD THOUGH.)
as a form of punishment, cygnus would use mind manipulation spells such as the imperius curse and legilimens to create false memories or destroy good ones in bellatrix’s mind. obviously, this destroyed her mental health. and by the time she was married, she had so many false memories of these monsters and creatures that she rapidly went crazy.
I am in love with your marauders deep dive videos and just kind of a fun fact that I have read enough fanfics to say that I have seen Sirius getting engaged through his family by force in different fics to Bellatrix, Andromeda AND Narcissa! So yay congrats sirius of collecting engagement with cousins in fanfics haha the black family really is messed up
The black family lore is my favs! Im so happy about this video ❤
AHHHH I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, I LIKE TO WATCH THEM WHILE I DRINK TEA :)
thank you! (i hope your tea is good lol)
yayy new marauders vid🥳 you feed us so well
YOUR SIRIUS COSPLAY IS AMAZING!!!!!! As is this deep dive! A very confusing family tree, yet you made it make perfect sense. Thank you!!
Ngl, I thought that Walpurga's name was based on Walpurgis Night/Saint Walpurga's Eve.
Overall, great video! Had fun listening while sketching :))
The black family circle !
PLEASE
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO
thank you for watching !
@@CoffeekoeThank you so much for making this! This exactly the video I have been looking for!
could you please make a video about other fanfics? i mean like Crimson rivers, only The brave, And TCOPTP 😭😭 (idk if that's The correct way to wrote It but okay you know what i mean
pdt : i love your vídeos 💗
soso super off topic but i love that river pheonix is on your wall hes so special to me. river pheonix, my own private idaho and banana fish are my 3 personal roman empires
i feel exactly the same lmao !
Do you think you could make a video discussing grant?
STOP I LOVE YOU SO MUCH MORE THEN I ALREADY DID 😭😭😭
aw that is so sweet
the blacks like to keep it in the family, ykwim? (I have not even finished the video)
i thought Lovegood and they arent related to them so that’s a win😌🤷🏽♀️
true haha
I know this is going to be super unrelated and weird but I’ve been enjoying your content on everything involving the Marauders fandom because my attachment to all of my childhood book series has become so complicated. Harry Potter… Is self-explanatory, given that the canon books are written by TERFling and we’ve all come to face how much problematic stuff is in the canon text. The one other main book series I grew up with was Percy Jackson but then Riordan made a blog stating that he wanted freedom for Palestine but “security” for the illegal apartheid state that has been occupying and colonizing the land and oppressing Palestinians for 75+ years 😭. It’s been hard trying to reconcile the love I had for these books while coming to terms with their respective creators’ actions, especially because with Percy Jackson there isn’t really anything like the Marauders to escape into since all of the Percy Jackson-centered creators here on RUclips that I know of have so far opted to just completely refuse to even address Riordan’s blog. Every book series I’ve grown up with and came to love as a kid has been tainted and watching Marauders content from time to time has become this weird sort of small escapism for me now that two of the most prominent book franchises I had during my childhood and teenage years have both been… permanently tainted. It makes it feel super weird for me to revisit these books from time to time due to this. Content likes yours sort of feels like a way for me to still hold onto what little memories I have left of my childhood that, while it’s not completely devoid of corruption and I’ll always have to own up to that and embrace it, it’s still something I can at least try to hold onto because in my mind I can try to mold and adapt it into something new, better, slightly less problematic I suppose, and at the very least more aligned with who I am now today in terms of my beliefs. Like a piece of the past that still allows me to visit old memories without feeling that sense of loss and sadness as a queer POC who identified with these stories but also changes with me as I develop new ideas and views that deviate from the misogyny, queerphobia, racism, anti-s-itism, and other forms of bigotry prevalent in TERFling’s writing, something that I can always hold onto that will give me peaceful nostalgia of what once was while simultaneously reflecting the ways in which I’ve grown as it continues to grow more and more progressive and into a better space for representation and tolerance than the actual canon text was. Into a world that, in my own head at least, deviates so far from the actual universe that it transforms into something entirely unique. Different from Harry Potter, but still better. A world that better represents ideals of acceptance and community. All this stuff I wrote sounds weird, and I know. But I guess it’s really something that only I can personally, intuitively feel and understand and subsequently try to put into words for other people to see how I feel and view it. Even if they don’t share this perspective, which is okay. I honestly feel like this kind of perspective has always been specific/unique to me after everything that’s shaped my identity now in the present.
No cause you're so real for that! I struggle a lot as well with Harry Potter being semi ruined for me which is why I turned to marauders (as like... everyone does haha) HP was such a pivotal part of my childhood so it's hard to see how god AWFUL jk rowling is these days.
I'm very happy that my videos can provide some comfort despite all that :)) and you don't have to apologize for writing a long comment, i enjoyed reading it. thank you for sharing this with me
@@CoffeekoeI’m so glad to know you’re in the same position as me. The comment section of your video explaining the Slytherin skittles provided a lot of insightful discussion on why people engage with the Marauders versions of Evan Rosier and Barty Crouch Jr.
I think it’s safe say that, for all of us who grew up with childhood book series like Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, etc. Not every part of our pasts has remained… Well, for lack of a better term, “Pure.” Although to be fair I’ve personally noticed a lot of sketchy elements that were prevalent in the books I generally grew up with( EDIT: After I got older I mean), it’s just that a lot of us were too young to realize it and are doing our best to come to terms with them now as older and more mature people. Thank you for being kind. I very much appreciate your Marauders content.
uh i may or may not have watched all your deep dives today 🥲 around 4.5 of marauders deep dives video is my literal heaven
i'm happy you enjoyed my yapping lmao :D
Me writing my Narcissa x Xenophilius fic with all other Blacks featured
Actually Remus is relevant to the black family (WOLFSTAR SHIPPERS UNITE)
I’m pretty sure Narcissa was named after the Narcissus asteroid and Walpurga after the 256 Walpurga which was an asteroid belt, could be wrong I looked this up in middle school
what if sirius' animagus was a black sheep 👀
messer's moony, wormtail, CHOCOLATE COTTONBALL, and prongs 🌕🐀🍫💭🦌
4:29 don’t you mean “blows”?
oh god lol
granger is because of ron and arthur
I think they’re related to the grangers because Ron married Hermione so they are related through their marriage
I wasn’t the first this time, but i’m here 😊